Watch Rear Admiral Harry Arogundade's Men beat up and strip a helpless lady [Graphic]

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Graphic Video: Here's What this "Noble Officer" and his Men did to a lady for obstructing their convoy. Their destination: A drinking Joint.

Follow discussions on this thread on how you can help get justice for this lady. At the very least, Rear Admiral Harry Arogundade should leave the Force.

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Re: Meanwhile, in Nigeria: Naval ratings beat, strip lady naked
Big-k posted on 11-12-2008, 13:24:23 PM
Soul Sista,

Of course the letter will not achieve anything by itself. But other activities and next steps should at least be in line. Its about objectives/focus and scope management. Just my opinion. I'm off for now.
Re: Meanwhile, in Nigeria: Naval ratings beat, strip lady naked
Soul Sista posted on 11-12-2008, 13:28:38 PM
Tonsoyo:

I disagree with you. But, I don't think that is important. In a campaign of this nature, I am more interested in points of agreement than proving to you that your position is invalid.

The point is I think we all agree on the big picture of galavanizing against military/police on civillian brutality. So, if these ends are funny and unacheiveable, tell us, in your humble opinion, what ends we should focus the campaign on. I think that is a more productive way of proceeding with this our campaign.

Soul Sista a/k/a Soul Sizzling


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Big-K,
These demands are funny, how acheivable are they and towards what end?

1. Moves have already been made as I noted earlier through several means to bring perpetrators to justice. If you are talking about subsequent offenders it means you are anticipating more, that is not a good strategy for people demanding a halt.

2. Laws have been made and campaigns made on several occasions to stop unauthorized use of siren in Nigeria it never worked. The focus should not be use of siren but the fact that nobody can be beaten even if you choose to disobey them. They will stop using if people nolonger give way without consequences.

3. If they no longer carry horsewhips, they still wear belts with big buckles and you will be surprised about how far your face can be panel-beaten by their knuckles.

4. All our men military ALWAYS receive training about dealing with the civilians as part of their orientation. It is a program already in place, it is what they do with it that matters.
Re: Meanwhile, in Nigeria: Naval ratings beat, strip lady naked
Igboamaeze posted on 11-12-2008, 13:28:47 PM
Dear Villagers,

Pls permit me to draw ur kind attention once again to the diversionary tactics of "Ewuro" and "tonsoyo". Pls observe that the duo have almost succeeded in distracting us from the issue at hand. This tactic has been their stock-in-trade since I met them on NVS.

It beats me that a lot of villagers cannot see thro their hocus-pocus and silly filibuster. If care is not taken, all our effort to forge a common front will colapse as precious energy is dissipated in responding to the evil tactics of a satanic-duo.

I think that this post by fxo puts to rest any question as to the propriety of our course and cause:

QUOTE:
In 1954 the US Supreme court handed down a landmark ruling, that equivocally stated that segregation in the US was illegal and unconstitutional.
Earlier on in 1951 a little back girl, Linda Brown had complained vehemently to her poor black father that she had to walk 7 blocks to the bus stop, to ride on a bus to school, when there was a school six blocks from their house. But the nearby school was a 'white school'. Her father and several other parents sued the local school board and the case eventually made it to the US Supreme Court. Which ruled in their favor.
The idea that Uzoma should not be the focus of our efforts in this matter, as advocated by some is strange to me, considering that her case as highlighted and brought to the fore this very unfair norm' of Police and Military brutality in Nigeria.
If the pains of a little 8 year old black girl was what it took to hand down that landmark ruling in \"Brown vs Board of Education\", a ruling that lead the ground swell that eventually legally ended segregation in all sphere in the US.

What is the problem if Uzoma's case brings about the change we crave?


Road side lawyers and evil-minded internet warriors can quote all the Roe v. Wade in the world.

Many thanks to Big-K, SS, Wale Akin, fox-catcher, Felix, fxo, somebody and others too numerous to mention.

Pls let's stay focused.
Re: Meanwhile, in Nigeria: Naval ratings beat, strip lady naked
Tonsoyo posted on 11-12-2008, 13:30:48 PM
QUOTE:
QUOTE:
Soul Sista,

Tonsoyo,
As Soul Sista suggested, please feel free to launch a campaign and I'm sure quite a number of people will join in. Cheers


So what do you think I have been doing with my precious time on this thread so far?

It is my own campaign to those following the event on how we can achieve better results.
If as the Administrator of the website you are not convinced that is all that you need to say. But we can still put these issues to vote or you may start your own Arogundade type of bullying (just kidding)
Re: Meanwhile, in Nigeria: Naval ratings beat, strip lady naked
Tonsoyo posted on 11-12-2008, 13:33:00 PM
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QUOTE=WaleAkin;289183]I have a reservation though that the Military Officers whom we are campaigning against may NOT see the wristbands....We need a high level of publicity but since Liz (A Lady is not comfy with the car stickers), many Nigerians may not use the stickers hence a waste of money!

I am thinking of writing the captions on \"Pure Water Satchets\"

Yes, pure water satchets. A negotiation with 2 or more manufaturers will do the job!
[/QUOTE]


Those bands will publicize themselves, people will want to know why every other person they see is wearing a pink or a red band. Backed up by newspaper advert. Pure Water ke Oti o o
Re: Meanwhile, in Nigeria: Naval ratings beat, strip lady naked
Namio posted on 11-12-2008, 13:37:52 PM
I have to agree that most of the actions that can be taken by NVS has been overtaken by events and grassroots support in Nigeria. There is little left to be done than making sure that the case is not forgotten or out of sight by the power of NVS publication of events at the grassroot. NVS members and Punch did a great deal to put this case in focus.

Tonsoyo,

That whip is degrading and humiliating but let us be frank now, unruly people need something to keep them in check. That is why police carry special stick to restrain or check violence. It is too easy to use whip as if these people are children.
Re: Meanwhile, in Nigeria: Naval ratings beat, strip lady naked
Tonsoyo posted on 11-12-2008, 13:39:15 PM
QUOTE:
Tonsoyo:

I disagree with you. But, I don't think that is important. In a campaign of this nature, I am more interested in points of agreement than proving to you that your position is invalid.

The point is I think we all agree on the big picture of galavanizing against military/police on civillian brutality. So, if these ends are funny and unacheiveable, tell us, in your humble opinion, what ends we should focus the campaign on. I think that is a more productive way of proceeding with this our campaign.

Soul Sista a/k/a Soul Sizzling



You have identified a number of them yourself. I have suggested some to back you up. A direct kind of campaign.

Why asked that Soldiers by trained? they have

You know what if the government cannot enforce existing laws about siren na dem sabi, but you cannot beat a law-abiding citizen for not giving in to illegality.

Ban horsewhip? What about several other whips?

You see what I am saying, those demands are too trivial as far as I am concerned.

You can tell that Big-K is already feeling slighted and is apparently not dispose to listening to better suggestions.
I say let good ideas give way to better ones!
Re: Meanwhile, in Nigeria: Naval ratings beat, strip lady naked
Soul Sista posted on 11-12-2008, 13:47:46 PM
Tonsoyo:

Neither of us identified the focus of the campaign the way Big K's 1-4 did (lifted from the letter, I believe). Since you believe that focus is too limited, suggest a bigger focus. What we identified were four possible actions we can take, not the demands (focus) that those actions are aimed at getting the authorities to meet.

Again, it does not matter if Big-K or anyone of us feels slighted. Aimoye (Countless) slight for NVS. How many will we talk? So long as we all know his heart is with the ultimate goal of the campaign, that is what is important. And, I have no doubt that Big-K is on with the ultimate goal. If everyone starts looking at slight rather than the heart, we won't get anywhere. That is why I suggest that if there are two ways of reading a post, let's read it in the way that will further our goal and leave tasere fights and proving point to one side.

Soul Sista a/k/a Soul Sizzling





QUOTE:
You have identified a number of them yourself. I have suggested some to back you up. A direct kind of campaign.

Why asked that Soldiers by trained? they have

You know what if the government cannot enforce existing laws about siren a dem sabi, but you cannot beat a law-abiding citizen for not giving in to illegality.

Ban horsewhip? What about several other whips?

You see what I am saying, those demands are too trivial as far as I am concerned.

You can tell that Big-K is already feeling slighted and is apparently not dispose to listening to better suggestions.
I say let good ideas give way to better ones!
Re: Meanwhile, in Nigeria: Naval ratings beat, strip lady naked
Tonsoyo posted on 11-12-2008, 13:48:45 PM
QUOTE:
QUOTE:

Tonsoyo,

That whip is degrading and humiliating but let us be frank now, unruly people need something to keep them in check. That is why police carry special stick to restrain or check violence. It is too easy to use whip as if these people are children.


I understand your point Namio, but stopping them from using horsewhips is not an end in itself. What difference would it have made if they had beaten Uzoma with a belt with big buckle or a stick?
Re: Meanwhile, in Nigeria: Naval ratings beat, strip lady naked
Soul Sista posted on 11-12-2008, 13:54:01 PM
Big K:

I agree with you on clear objectives/focus and scope management. Some other activities have been identified. See, my post 586 on this thread. Do you think those activities will help to acheive the objectives/focus you have in mind, i.e., 1 through 4 you quoted above? If not, which activities do you suggest? Do you think we can manage the scope of those activities? If not, how do we limit to something we can manage?

Ko ni re e o, Ami! (You will not be tired, Amen)

Soul Sista a/k/a Soul Sizzling




QUOTE:
Soul Sista,

Of course the letter will not achieve anything by itself. But other activities and next steps should at least be in line. Its about objectives/focus and scope management. Just my opinion. I'm off for now.
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