This thread is opened in continuation of discussions at the New Creation of State for the Ijebus thread. Who defines the past determines the present. Who defines the present determines the future. Oluwato, Thanks for the update. You are yet to answer the key question that I would like you to answer: How can there be a Satan if the Christian God is all? Your reply so far is: What created Satan? If Satan acquired self-deceit and pride, surely these afflictions must have come from somewhere? What created them! Your Judaic-based Christian faith says God created everything, If so, the Christian God must have created Satan, self-deceit and pride. The essential flaw in your argument is unwillingness to accept that there is only one ultimate source for anything whether considered good or bad, evil or angelic! The catalogue of woes (evil?) wrecked by God(?) in the bible against whoever incurs God's wrath (how can God be angry?) indicate either that someone is lying in their account of God or that God is (god forbid) evil. Somebody is lying by fabricating the past. I confess that I was thrown off-balance by your assertion that This is the logical conclusion of Christian indoctrination that minds its adherents into second-class goyim servility to the "chosen few". 1) Firstly, the people you are calling jews today are not the biblical jews, they are mostly Khazars from the Caucasus and migrants/converts from modern Europe. Sorry. 2) Secondly, the judaism of today is but an appropriation of the ancient Egyptian mystery religions with Zionist acculturation. Orisha has arguably the same origin but with "Yoruba" acculturation. 3) No scientist or geneticist,or even self-acclaimed Jew for that matter, will be so deluded as to claim an "intelligence" gene exclusive to any group of humans. 4) What good is "intelligence" if religious faith prevents one from using it? The bible you are recommending so strongly was derived from the Pentatauch / Jewish Torah (Old Testament), itself based on ancient Egyptian folklore; and the Book of the Coming Forth by Night and By Day, also known as the Papyrus of Ani (New Testament), also of ancient Egypt. The so-called 10 commandments supposedly 'handed' to Moses were copied from the 42 Negations of Ma'at, again of ancient Egypt. I feel I need to tell you that the people in modern Egypt are not the ancient Egypt of the biblical days. Christianity, is at best, a derivation of a derivation of Afrikan Heritage Religion. The bible itself was not written or dictated by God. Sorry. The first recorded compilation was at the council of Nicea under the emperor Constantinople. The King James version was recompiled by the future members of the 'masonic' Royal Society in England to suit the protestant reformation. This 'scientific' Society was and is heavily influenced by the works of Pythagoras, Francis Bacon, John Dee and other students of, yes, ancient Egyptian Mystery Religions. What is now known as Christianity may have worked for tying together the disparate European ethnicities, just as Islam has been hegemonic for Arab ethnicities, but Afrikans should burn these particular trojan horses. In all my research, I have been unable to trace the modern 'Yoruba' beyond the Nile river region within the continent of Africa. From where in Asia do you refer? -------------------------------- I may review this post in order to add links and references. All I have said above is backed with PROOF in form of documents. ------------------------------- Please, help me understand whether or not the Christian God created Satan?