.Why Judge An Igbo President, Before Having One?

**Robot** · Oct 31, 2006 , 11:26 AM

Nigeria is a nation where mediocres are pardoned, and those who are qualified in ...Read the full article.

cdimkpa · Oct 31, 2006 , 12:33 PM

I read that Abia and Imo has FINALLY been restored in the new Niger Delta initiative. But the fact of their initial exclusion speaks volume of the fate of Ndigbo in the present Yoruba- governed Nigeria.

That said, Nwobu, I think enough has been said on this point. Needless overburdening the issue. Those who are hell-bent are hell-bent. As Dockowy or somebody said, what is genetic is genetic; no amount of preachment from you will change people's hopeless, and painfully so, one-track mentality. If some other Nigerians connivingly think that the Igbo cannot rule, let them ''carry go'' and continue to rule. That is their problem. As for me, I have elected to maintain a sit-down-look attitude even as Nigeria flounders, totters and eventually........................

When the dice is cast, the Igbo might yet be connivingly begged to come and redeem.

**Naija for life** · Oct 31, 2006 , 01:55 PM

Originally Posted by cdimkpa

When the dice is cast, the Igbo might yet be connivingly begged to come and redeem.

I hope, I fervently hope, that Nigeria will indeed be blessed with an Igbo president in the near future, in the hope that many Igbos will be moved to forswear insults, like the one above, that non Igbos are constantly subjected to in this square. Until that happens, I guess Ijaw oil will continue to redeem all Nigerians, including IGBOS. And isn't it ironic, that the Ijaws, to whom we all (Including IGBOS) actually owe our fortunes to, are the ones least likely to trumpet their indispensability to Nigeria?

**Abraxas** · Oct 31, 2006 , 02:09 PM

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To Her be the Glory......May Her name be praised.

Muchas gracias.

Don Juan Carlos ABRAXAS (III)

**Omega** · Oct 31, 2006 , 02:50 PM

My people,

First of all, let me say that I am Ikwerre-Igbo. I have had to ask my dad to clarify all these confusion among the Ikwerre about who they really are. He was really enraged about that question. He said to me; "son, you are Igbo of Ikwerre extraction." He said any Ikwerre man who says he is not Igbo is a bastard, and that it's civil war politics.

I have read all the articles posted on this site, and believe me, I do not understand why the hatred on Igbo by other Nigerians. The Igbo has never ruled Nigeria since after the civil war, so why this animousity toward them. Nigerians should direct their anger towards the North and the West, and not the East. What have the Igbo done wrong?

One Pukpabi was attacked for using statistics to show Nigerians that truly, the Igbo are the most educated Nigerians. But why? His was in response to the insinuation that Ndi-Igbo are all traders. Remember, a female Yoruba Nigeria federal minister made the most stupid statement about Igbo going back to do what they know how to do: trading, instead of aspiring to be President.

Just in case you guys have forgotten, Nigeria's "leader" since 1970 has been Gowon (North), Murtala Mohammed (North), Buhari (North), Obasanjo (West), Shagari (North), Buhari (North), Babangida (North) Shonekan? (West) Abacha (North), Abubakar (North), obasanjo (West).

My question to these hate mongers is, "which of these 'miracle workers' is an Igbo man?"

Chinda Amadi, MBA
Illinois, USA

**Auspicious** · Oct 31, 2006 , 03:01 PM

Originally Posted by Naija for life

I hope, I fervently hope, that Nigeria will indeed be blessed with an Igbo president in the near future, in the hope that many Igbos will be moved to forswear insults, like the one above, that non-Igbos are constantly subjected to in this Square... And isn't it ironic, that the Ijaws, to whom we all (Including IGBOS) actually owe our fortunes to, are the ones least likely to trumpet their indispensability to Nigeria?

Naija for Life:

You are right; the irony is right in everyone's faces. May I however join you in FERVENTLY hoping that the turn of the Ndigbo to be in charge of the affairs of state comes sooner rather than later - in the nearest future. Amin!

Auspicious.

**Abraxas** · Oct 31, 2006 , 03:12 PM

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Zzzzzzzzzzzzz ........(snore.......snooze!).......Je k'o ye e, ariya alaadun ni m'on'she

Glory be to the Mother, and to the Daughter and to the Holy Champagne.
May Her funkified name be psychedelically praised.

Muchas gracias.

Don Juan Carlos ABRAXAS (III)

**Auspicious** · Oct 31, 2006 , 03:24 PM

Originally Posted by Omega

One Pukpabi was attacked for using statistics to show Nigerians that truly, the Igbo are the most educated Nigerians.

I was one of the respondents to Pukpabi's comments. He was not "attacked" for doing what you said he did, but was simply advised to come down from his high-horse and stop the arrogant chest-beating over "proving" what we all know - that the Ndigbo are an academically bright, industrious, and free-thinking people as a group. That aside, Pukpabi has a history of spewing venomously angry ethnicist remarks about the Nigerian nation-state - remarks that tend to undermine the self-esteem of other groups that make up the entity called Nigeria.

The likes of Pukpabi have to understand that in this cesspool arrangement that we have at present in Nigeria, all the ethnic groups have suffered under only one group - THE ELITE. It is not a Hausa problem or a Yoruba problem or an Ijaw problem. The Elite under whose boots the people of this land have groaned for years are present in EVERY ethnic group; we have Lamidi Adedibu in Yorubaland, we have Arthur Francis Nzeribe of the Igbo extraction, we have Alhaji Wada Nas of the Hausa/Fulani(?) extraction as well. The list goes on.

This is why it PAINS me to read comments like that of Docokwy. Why can't somebody talk to him? Why must he say "Yoruba" did this and that? Or Ednut's penchant for collectively maligning the "Awusas" (his quote)? Or anyone at all that maligns the Igbos, Yoruba or Hausa as a group! Can't someone call these people to order? Why must Pukpabi show so much hatred for the rest of us Nigerians, because of people like Obasanjo and Co.? Do they think we like those individuals any more than he does?

The real hate-mongers are those who view everybody else with distrust. The real hate-mongers are those who spend their days and nights labelling other peoples. The real hate-mongers are those who shroud-up and point fingers at others all the time, pointing out how much better than others they are - making out that others are of inferior heritage; that only them have the brains, the means and the way. And the sooner they realize this, the better it will be for them. I talk of individuals here and NOT the collective Ndigbo nation. I talk of the Docokwys, the Pukpabis et al. Ednut does not count anymore because he is irrelivant.

Auspicious.

PS: The "header" above is not to insult you, Omega.

**tonsoyo** · Oct 31, 2006 , 06:08 PM

Originally Posted by Auspicious

I was one of the respondents to Pukpabi's comments. He was not "attacked" for doing what you said he did, but was simply advised to come down from his high-horse and stop the arrogant chest-beating over "proving" what we all know - that the Ndigbo are an academically bright, industrious, and free-thinking people as a group. That aside, Pukpabi has a history of spewing venomously angry ethnicist remarks about the Nigerian nation-state - remarks that tend to undermine the self-esteem of other groups that make up the entity called Nigeria.

The likes of Pukpabi have to understand that in this cesspool arrangement that we have at present in Nigeria, all the ethnic groups have suffered under only one group - THE ELITE. It is not a Hausa problem or a Yoruba problem or an Ijaw problem. The Elite under whose boots the people of this land have groaned for years are present in EVERY ethnic group; we have Lamidi Adedibu in Yorubaland, we have Arthur Francis Nzeribe of the Igbo extraction, we have Alhaji Wada Nas of the Hausa/Fulani(?) extraction as well. The list goes on.

This is why it PAINS me to read comments like that of Docokwy. Why can't somebody talk to him? Why must he say "Yoruba" did this and that? Or Ednut's penchant for collectively maligning the "Awusas" (his quote)? Or anyone at all that maligns the Igbos, Yoruba or Hausa as a group! Can't someone call these people to order? Why must Pukpabi show so much hatred for the rest of us Nigerians, because of people like Obasanjo and Co.? Do they think we like those individuals any more than he does?

The real hate-mongers are those who view everybody else with distrust. The real hate-mongers are those who spend their days and nights labelling other peoples. The real hate-mongers are those who shroud-up and point fingers at others all the time, pointing out how much better than others they are - making out that others are of inferior heritage; that only them have the brains, the means and the way. And the sooner they realize this, the better it will be for them. I talk of individuals here and NOT the collective Ndigbo nation. I talk of the Docokwys, the Pukpabis et al. Ednut does not count anymore because he is irrelivant.

Auspicious.

PS: The "header" above is not to insult you, Omega.

Good talk Auspi, some of us have argued repeatedly on this forum that the problem of Nigeria is not about conspiracy of one tribe against the other but our elites from all tribes taking us all for a ride. Igbo leadership even though they have not produce a President since 1970 are known to have worked in connivance with most terrible dictators in Nigeria history. Most noticeable voices for IBB Presidency come 2007 are mostly Igbo. What have I to do with conspiracy against Igbo Presidency when nobody in family as ever been a councillor? I beg make you guys go sit down jare, if you abuse my tribe too much we will start joining issues with you.

**Obi** · Oct 31, 2006 , 07:02 PM

Mazi Nwobu,

Igbo matters have somehow been overstretched here in the NVS. From my observations, It gladdens the hearts of some few idle irritants to see you or some other Igbo write repeatedly on Igbo cause. Please, stop bothering yourself. Better political days for the Igbo will surely come, and that will not happen with the approval of these unimportant hangers-on in the NVS.

Obasanjo apart, the Yoruba as a people, are good and hospitable lot. I like them. Politics aside, I have an in-depth knowledge of the race. The first Yoruba lady married into my family in 1966 passed on recently. In 1978, one of my uncles hooked another one, and she is still with us.
In all, I, Obi has 14 first-cousins with Ondo ancestry.

Obasanjo is not anti-Igbo. You'll agree with me that this man, in his tenure, has up-turned many post war anti-Igbo policies. Some of which are unnerving to the beneficiaries of the policies in the South, particularly in the former Eastern region (name(s) withheld).

Everything that's got a beginning must have an end. Obasanjo, who amputated Igboland as a young victorious General, understood that the Igbo as a giant race, would surely awaken to take her rightful place someday. And today, he is in the fore-front of that return-to-glory history. Look at his cabinet. We shall see where he is going to throw his weight in 2007.

So my brother Nwobu, Keep posting your articles here; I enjoy reading them.

To Mazi UKPABI (JURIS DOCTOR): Thanks for your superior arguments. NEVER YOU BUCKLE!

To Mazi CHINDA AMADI: Thanks for the insight.

**Obi** · Oct 31, 2006 , 07:08 PM

CDIMKPA: Thanks for the information on Niger Delta initiative visavis ABIA and IMO.

**Chinedu Nwobu** · Oct 31, 2006 , 08:51 PM

Ladies and Gentlemen:

Thanks for your overwhelmingly positive contributions and understanding.

Thanks particurlarly to Auspicious, who made the observation that the "Elites" irrespective of tribe constitute the major problem. It's as if he took the words out of my mouth. By the way Auspicious, i read the highly motivational speech you wrote in Chidi Giniji's article "I have a dream" reading that speech brought the tears to my eyes.I must commend you for your excellent speech writing skills. Keep it up.

Thanks also to my beloved brothers Cdimkpa, Nkire, Obi, and Omega.Your observations and advice is appreciated.

Thanks to a very special villager, Naija for life. His objectivity, and honesty represents a monument of hope as we struggle for a new, just, progressive and equitable Nigeria.

I will be starting a series on reconcilliation and nation building soon. It is a concept which i have had in mind for quite sometime. I am inspired by Marcus Garvey,Malcolm X, Kwame Nkrumah etc who ceaselessly advocated a Pan- African identity and state.

I am recommending the Autobiography of Marcus Garvey to villagers. Perhaps it will change the prism, and perspective through which most of us see things.

Thanks once again.
Cheers.
Comrade L.C.Nwobu