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  1. Feb 9, 2010 ,  08:37 PM #1
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    How can you as soundly educated as you are write with the righteousness of a Pope that an election in which 1.8 million Anambrans registered to vote and in the end less than 300,000 or 16% voted, is a fair election? In fact, this is the worst election in Anambra state. How could Iwu's INEC deny more than 900,000 willing voters their right to vote. He deliberately and consciously disenfranchised more than 80% of the electorate and you are here singing "hossana Din'nso". It was a well calculated deceit by IWU and that election should be cancelled with immediate effect and Iwu, removed.

    The fact that one of the candidates you wanted to win won, does not mean you should literally eat Adibe. Adibe did the work of a professional and the fact that his poll result was not reflected in the over all result does not prove his research wrong. In fact, in your write up, you (even) established why his poll result could not be reflected. You answered that question but in your jaundiced anger, you could not admit it. What a journalistic tradition!

    The good in your piece is your recommendation that elections should be held at the six regional levels at different times. That is commendable. I hope "the rulers" of Nigeria would buy the idea, in fact which qualitative idea have they ever bought?

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    Free and fair elections are not determined by the percentage of eligible voters who got to vote. Rather elections are free and fair when voters, be they 300,000 of out a possible 1.8 million, cast their votes without fear or favour. That only about 300,000 people could vote has to do with political participation and not the fairness of the elections.

    Don't pass comments that will betray your ignorance on public fora such as this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by idowuohioze View Post
    Free and fair elections are not determined by the percentage of eligible voters who got to vote. Rather elections are free and fair when voters, be they 300,000 of out a possible 1.8 million, cast their votes without fear or favour. That only about 300,000 people could vote has to do with political participation and not the fairness of the elections.

    Don't pass comments that will betray your ignorance on public fora such as this.

    Can you just read yourself? If the failure of efforts made by majority of voters to make their vote count is not enough political participation, then please lecture me, Prof. please!

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    Many thanks Joe for your profanities against me - just for an effort you disagree with.

    The maturity displayed by the contestants- the winner eschewing triumphalism, and many of the losers conceding in a spirit of sportsmanship - is what made the election unique. Were they to be governed by their emotions as you seem to repeatedly do, there would have been serious post election violence.



    I do not know your pedigree. But I do know that from your writings, which are usually so emotion-driven, that one has to struggle to understand the point, it will be pointless trrying to engage you in a serious discussion.

    As sanctimonious as you sound, one would have expected you to manifest such in your comportment, presentation and sober interrogation of points of view you disagree with. But this is obviously not your style.

    But I wish you the best.
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    For Mr Igbokwe to tell us that only the burial of his relative afforded him the opportunity to go for an election being conducted in his state means that he is not a patrotic fellow. but apart from that i think that his rambling despite being emotionally ladened is in place. For Lovenest on the other hand, fairness in an election means that there are no stumbling blocks put in place for those who comes out to vote to the benefit of one or more parties. was their such stumbling blocks, yes there was. but was it to the benefit of a specific party? no it wasnt. All parties complained as well, thanks to INEC and its shoddy preparations. but all said and done, Obi won clearly and in all fairness he was declared as such.

    As for Holler africa, it was nothing but a gallup polls and nobody should be insulted for it. Mr Igbokwe should apologise for such outburst.

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    Bro Joe:

    I had to answer some questions on another thread about Holler Africa's poll, which I feel you may be interested in. Understandably, these questions will keep coming for a while. They are legitimate and I will try my best to keep answering them - the best I can.

    However before pasting this, let me quickly mention that:
    a) You descended on me (not on my arguments - apparently because of the opinion poll we conducted) in a recent article in my weekly column at the Daily Independent,"Governor Fashola and the Nude Dancers" (also published on several websites), for arguing that in a plural, secular and democratic society you cannot ban nude clubs as it would amount to imposing a version of morality on all and could also possibly infringe on people's moral autonomy over their bodies in secluded places. Several local newspapers re-published it, and less than two weeks after the publication, the Lagos state House of Assembly passed a motion ordering for the immediate re-opening of the strip clubs. The possibility of making such a difference from my own little corner of the world, is both energising and humbling.
    b) You mentioned that I belong to a group your 'friend' Okey Ndibe would describe as 'visionless'. Well, I am not sure if you meant this to be name dropping or not. But you may want to know that Okey Ndibe is one of some 30 academic authors published in 2009 by Adonis & Abbey Publishers, the parent company of Holler Africa. Okey's co-edited volume, Writers, Writing on Conflicts and Wars in Africa, was co-published with Nordic Institute of Africa Studies, Uppsala, Sweden. Currently there are discussions about German translation and we are working to excite a French publisher for French translation. So while Okey may disagree with my writings or polll, it will not make sense to me if he calls me 'visionless'. Again the possibility to make such a difference motivates me a lot, and explains why I undertook the poll in the first instance. I am not the type that is fazed by criticisms as I usually see constructive ones as an opportunity to learn something new to improve on my efforts. I feel convinced that if votes begin to count in Nigeria, our modest pioneering effort with our opinion poll, will become a permanent feature of elections in Nigeria. Already, our effort inspired many other polls during the election. These will become more professionalised as our democracy deepens. I also foresee that political parties may start conducting their own private polls to be able to better tailor their messages. I also foresee many candidates using professional image managers because the body language of some of the candidates counted against them with the voters during the campaign.

    Now here are my answers to a recent question on another thread on the poll.
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    Many thanks Emeka for your comments.

    I answered as many questions on the poll as I could. Obviously it would be impossible for me to answer every single question. What I did was to aggreggate all the comments on the poll and reply to them, one by one, as best as I could. Here is the link for that: It was called 'Opinion Poll on Anambra State Elections: A Reply to Critics". It was published on several websites and also by the Daily Independent.
    http://www.pointblanknews.com/os2751.html

    2)Every one has been puzzled by the outcome of the elections, especially by the margin of the victory. Most analysts predicted very close race. I was surprised that Ngige won only 3 LGAs, Soludo 2 and Ekwunife none. On a personal level I thought Ms Ekwunife ran a marvellous campaign and had crossed the gender line so I was even more shocked that she did not win in any LGA or was beaten by Ukachukwu. But these things happen in elections.

    3) Polls are never exact science - you are trusting that respondents told you their real opinion and that these were recorded well. Besides, there are always variables that a poll of this nature can never capture such as late rallies. Even our second poll came more than a week before the election. Late rallies like mobilisation of Igbo sentiments that APGA is an Igbo party and that to vote any other party would humiliate Ojukwu, Governor Obi flagging off projects at each campaign town he visited, the Catholic church openly favouring one candidate etc could have played a part.

    4) Have you heard of the 'Bradley Effect'? Well in 1982, Tom Bradley, an African American was comfortaly ahead, by wide margin, in all the polls in California's Governorship race but he still lost because either the respondents told the pollstars lies or they changed their mind about voting for a black candidate at the last minute. There was a similar voter behavior in the 1989 race for Governor of Virginia between Democrat L. Douglas Wilder, an African-American, and Republican Marshall Coleman, a Caucasian.
    Just check the several polling companies in the US and see how sometimes the polls have different results for same question.

    5) There were several polls that published results of their own poll. Obviously since theirs seem very easily ignored, could it be an indication that more people took ours more serious or that there was some credibility in it?

    6) Our first poll found that most of the respondents believed the election would be free and fair. We were also condemned for that. Emeka, why are you also not commending the part of the poll that turned out to be right?

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  8. Feb 10, 2010 ,  09:11 AM #8
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    Hello Jideofor,
    I certainly commend your civility in discussing these issues.

    My expertise is in medicine (psychiatry and neuroimaging). So, forgive me if I adopted a non political approach to analysing a political opinion poll.
    However, a poll whether political or scientific still has to be valid and the pollster has to show that he has done enough to minimise biases.

    I felt quite strongly that your poll did not address the electoral register or discuss any measures you adopted to ensure the people you interviewed were on it. Of course, it turned out that many people who came to vote did not find their names on the register.

    You did not address the possible selection bias arising from the use of mobile phone data in a country where virtually everyone is on a pay-as-you-go 'contract'.

    The Bradley effect is a reliability issue. I was satisfied that the poll you conducted was not valid given the methodological flaws. Usually, I do not go on analysing if I consider a test or poll as not valid.

    You have made an important start but it needs to be fine tuned including figuring out how to address unique 'Naija' effect(s).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lovenest View Post
    Can you just read yourself? If the failure of efforts made by majority of voters to make their vote count is not enough political participation, then please lecture me, Prof. please!
    You don’t measure the freeness and fairness of an election by the volume of people that voted but on the equality of the opportunities accessible to the candidates. On the later, no candidate has complained that Peter Obi blacked off his voters from voting. So all the candidates had equal opportunities for the 300,000 voters that were allowed to vote so it was free and fair. And going by this, Peter Obi could have won the election if the 1.8million people voted at the end of the day.
    If INEC displayed its traditional sloppiness in handling the elections, as we all predicted it will, it removes nothing from the determination of the people of Anambra to ensure that only genuine and credible votes count. Will you be surprised if the genuine and credible voters in Anambra that wanted to vote were 300,000 or do you take the 1.8million so called names on the voters register as your guide? Pray did Gani Fawehinmi, Wole Soyinka, Mohammed Alli and the other names discovered in the voters register also vote?
    It seems you place too much honour on the so-called voters’ register and it is good that Peter Obi, the victorious candidate has been shouting himself hoarse before the election on this issue while the other candidates were having a ball on the belief that the unverifiable 1.5million voters that never voted would be added to them to give them victory-remember the Andy Uba issue in the 2007 phantom polls?
    I think the difference in the election was that some candidates were prevented through the vigilance of the people, from adding the notorious 1 before their real figures, which would have spawned mysterious millions of votes for them. So to every reasonable extent the Anambra election was free and fair. INEC was traditionally sloppy but all candidates benefited negatively from this shortfall, which is why everyone must support electoral reform and not waiting till you are prevented from robbing voters before you cry foul.

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    [QUOTE=pcjadibe;429913]Bro Joe:

    I had to answer some questions on another thread about Holler Africa's poll, which I feel you may be interested in. Understandably, these questions will keep coming for a while. They are legitimate and I will try my best to keep answering them - the best I can.


    Mr. Adibe, while I sympathize with you and want to share the explanations you have made so far, I really would not want to grant you the benefit you are seeking from us. When you did the first act (let me not call it poll), there were so much criticisms that you were forced to do some explanations. Honestly, at the point, I was ready to listen to you believing you will cease publishing such things since not many people believed your effort was not a hatchet job. Honestly, I did not want to pursue this further because I thought you really took in the fierce criticisms and popular rejection that trailed that work. At least, that would have served as a credible pointer to where people’s minds, sentiments and ultimately votes, belong. I was utterly shocked when you did the second act, just 48 hours before the election and which gave Soludo a wider lead. It was properly timed to ensure that reactions, which you know would certainly come, would not temper the latest effort, as it did the first. That made me to actually believe that the entire thing was a fabricated job to sell Soludo and not anything near a value-free opinion poll that should score a bull’s eye or a near hit if it was anything near credible!
    The result of the election really went a long way to worsen your case. And for Soludo not to even come second and even losing his local council to Peter Obi, in an election two opinion polls had already given him by a landslide is really a disastrous record. For Peter Obi who was given a lowly third placement in both polls to record the landslide he got from last week’s election shows that people who reacted negatively to your first effort were right and you were wrong after all. There is every virtue in admitting where we have fallen short and moving on than holding to a well worn position, even when everything has proved you wrong. My humble advice is that you cease from further explanations because we are discerning enough to know but don’t get yourself involved in things like that, no matter the price. They will only work to place you on a very wrong perspective with people that do not know you. I hope mine would be taken as one sincere advice from an observer, who wishes you and Anambra well.

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    Thanks Jideofor.

    You continue to earn my respect on the mature, logical and scientific way in which you addressed the issue of the Lagos nude clubs on SaharaReporters (although I am still unsatisfied with the position of the LSHA), and on this latest opinion poll for the Anambra elections. I also admire you for your inclination to learn and improve on where you think you have not done well enough; it is a rare quality among intellectuals.
    The name-calling and abusive language Joe Igbokwe had employed to attack your person as well as all those who were not satisfied with the conduct and outcome of the 2010 Anambra election, including Chris Ngige, his own partyman, is totally uncalled for.
    If everyone agreed that a huge number of electorates in Anambra were disenfrachised (less than 20% of registered voters actually participated), is it not fair to then say that we would never be able to know what the outcome would have been if they have all been allowed to vote?
    I think Ngige is right to seek redress if he feels cheated. We must not ignore the fundamental issues just because the immediate outcome of the election pleases some stakeholders and refuse to explore the opportunity to improve on what we have.
    While I might not be informed enough to vouch for the integrity of Jideofor and his group who conducted the opinion polls, my simple explanation of why the polls results might have differed from the election outcome are as follows:

    1.) The sample size and sampling method might not have provided a representative sample
    2.) The large-scale disenfranchisement of potential voters who could not find their names on the voters register might have been lopsided.
    3.) Last minute change of voters' minds might have happened.

    While I commend Joe Igbokwe for doing his little monitoring during the election (I disagree with Iyke there), the question I will like to ask is this: If this exact process and events had turned up with an Andy Uba as the winner, will your stand be the same?

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    1) Thanks Peter. Unfortunately we will disagree on this point. I am not sure I am the type that will do things just for public acclaim - otherwise I would be writing comedy.

    2) I am not asking for any 'favour' from any reader. I believe in keeping my head clear - under pressure or criticisms. Without a clear head, you wont see all the points in an argument. Excessive emotion, like anger, is temporary madness, which is why in most parts of the world people who cannot keep their emotions in check are kept away from high public offices.

    3) Now, why are the other polls which put Ngige and Ekwunife not receiving the piss? Did you in all earnesty envisage this level of landlside victory for any of the candidates?

    4) Again, I will refer you to the Bradley and Wilder Effects in the US to let you know that such could happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pcjadibe View Post
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    3) Now, why are the other polls which put Ngige and Ekwunife not receiving the piss? Did you in all earnesty envisage this level of landlside victory for any of the candidates?
    As Peter pointed out, could it be the way you treated the criticisms to your earlier post. It was pointed out to you that your poll was badly flawed and not valid yet you went ahead to publish a second follow up poll.

    I have pointed out to you some of the flaws in you poll asking for clarifications but till date I am yet to recieve a response.

    Let me refresh.
    You showed us your questionaire which you said took 15 minutes to complete.
    You told us that the polls were conducted by text and face to face.
    You polled 9000 people
    You polled between dates 23rd to 26th December 09.
    You went ahead to claim that the poll was of all classes
    You published reasons why some felt that the elections were not going to be fair etc.

    At no time did you mention that you had sight of the voters register.

    You did not tell us why you used 9000 people and we did not see any evidence of sample size calculations.

    Now if 9000 were polled in 4 days and each questionaire taking 15 minutes, that is a mathematical impossibility except ......

    You polled by text yet you did not tell us where you got the telephone database where you chose these random samples from. Could it be that the samples were not random at all?

    Anambra state is largely an "immigrant" state where its citizens live in Lagos, Aba, Abuja Jos etc and go back home during the christmas period. So why did you choose this period when most of the people on the ground may not even be in the state during the elections? Had you used the voters registers instead of simply asking "Are you going to vote?" you would have overcome this "small" issue.

    You claimed that the poll was of all classes yet your questionaire did not indicate any questions about the respondents class. You did not define your classes in your write up .

    Your first poll gave reasons why some people felt that the elections were not going to be fair yet your questionaire did not have any options to measure these responses.

    Jideofor, you claim that you have worked with ?Mori in the UK so I expect that you should know about sample size calculations, study design etc and when you put out what you have done as a poll, I can understand the feelings of some people that these polls were never done in the first place.

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    Dear Dr. Adibe,

    We are all brothers but even at that, I can't trust you with something I have no value for. You should be apologizing earnestly. Can you stop for a moment and imagine how many people you sent to hospital? It was terrorism of a kind and media organizations don't have to publish everything; that's why Editors exists.

    Even that write-up of yours that supported opening of nude clubs speaks volumes. In both cases you tailored your involvement probably with the mindset of the environment where you live and thrive. It would have paid better if you had given a thought on how to make those nude dancers a 'Beyonce', Alicia Keys, Rihanna, etc.

    I wish you better days ahead knowing that you have the hoe to look on the positive consistently.

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    Nigeria! Nigeria!! Nigeria!!! What a wonderful country! When PDP loses an election in Nigeria, the election is adjudged to be free and fair! Even though the irregularities were glaring and over 80% of eligible voters were disenfranchised!

    The Anambra elections were marred by widespread irregularities. Even the eventual winner did not vote! Only about 300,000 out of 1.8million people voted! Cos voters' names were not in the voters' registers! There is a difference between low voter turn-out and clear disenfranchisement, due to ineptitude of INEC officials! Everyone is neglecting the irregularities that marred the Anambra elections because Obi won!

    Agreed, the result turned out to be a reflection of the peoples' wishes (we are not even sure that was supposed to happen)! It still does not change the fact that the election was not conducted properly. If Iwu (INEC Chairman) had any concept of honour, this is another reason he should resign honourably!

    However, kudos must be given to Charles Soludo and Andy Uba for accepting defeat and congratulating the winner! This has never happened in the history of Nigerian politics.

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    Thanks Bunch 17.

    I hope we will start by your removing your mask and telling me your real name just as I used my real name in signing the polls you dispute. The fact that I used my real name means I am making myself available for discussions on this issue and putting my own integrity on the line. There is something ominous about using a pseudonym, because you don’t really know whether you are exchanging jabs with your relative, a malevolent deity or an angel. Just like you can check me out to find out my antecedents, can I also check you out by say, Googling 'Bunch17'?

    You misrepresented me on a few issues:

    1) Your first question was the number of people who conducted the poll. I gave the number in my consolidated reply as 100. Each survey was designed to last 7 minutes, not 15 as you quoted me as saying. I already answered in detail that each respondent was employed over 3 days, and it took each person on average 10.5 hours to complete his/her set of questionnaires. In the second effort, which was just one question, it was designed to last for one minute. There are reasons in survey for keeping as close as possible to estimated time for each poll. Most of the questions you are asking here are already answered in the consolidated reply, which I addressed under three rubrics:
    a) Was the poll a fraud (b) Was it designed to favour a particular candidate? (c) Was it so methodologically flawed to render its findings invalid? Each of these had several questions posed and answers proffered - as best as I could. It is pointless repeating them here again.

    2) I never mentioned that I worked for Mori. I said I worked at National Opinion Poll NOP, (Black Friars Road branch), and Synovate ( Kennington Park Road, branch) – both in London. In the Western world where we live, you can easily verify such information so this ought not to be an issue. If you do try to check, please use 'Patrick Adibe'. I always tell people I returned the name 'Patrick' to the Queen in 2000, and reverted to my Igbo name ‘Jideofor’. If you also want to check this, see the cover story on Chinua Achebe turning 70 which I did for the magazine, Africa Today, and where I formally announced the ‘returning’ of the name ‘Patrick’ to our ‘dear Queen’.

    3) You also mentioned in another thread that in private email exchanges I had a tendency of not commenting 'when boxed to a corner'. If you do anything out of passion, you wont be shy to engage in discussions or work long hours or be fazed by criticisms. Only cowboys disengage in the face of criticisms because they get engaged for quick gain without an understanding of the field or being prepared to put in the necessary hardwork. If you are convinced about anything and the crowd is against you, it often becomes an incentive to follow your mind and prove them wrong. Like everything in life however, no one wins always, and you never stop trying because you had unexpected outcomes.

    4) I can’t remember ever having private exchanges with you. Obviously in any exchanges, there comes a time where you know that no matter what you say, the other person has made up his or her mind. In such a situation, I always feel that the best thing to do is to agree to disagree. I once had private exchanges with someone who demanded that he should be given a chance to review the 9000 questionnaires. So how do you respond to such? You know where the person is driving at and you have to respect that in matters of personal opinion, there ought to be no controversy.

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    Thanks Bunch 17.

    I hope we will start by your removing your mask and telling me your real name just as I used my real name in signing the polls you dispute. The fact that I used my real name means I am making myself available for discussions on this issue and putting my own integrity on the line. There is something ominous about using a pseudonym, because you don’t really know whether you are exchanging jabs with your relative, a malevolent deity or an angel. Just like you can check me out to find out my antecedents, can I also check you out by say, Googling 'Bunch17'?

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    Jideofor, let us take personalities and politics out of what should be a scientific exercise. I am not from Anambra state, I don't have any stake in who or what becomes the governor. I care that when any study is put out in the public domain it must be properly conducted and it must measure what it set out to measure. Sadly these cannot be said of you poll.

    Thank you for the corrections. Ok it took 7 minutes to complete the questionaire and 100 workers and each taking 10.5 hours to complete their work. Each was retained for 3 days. May I point out that 23rd - 26th December is actually four days so I am guessing you staggered their working hours. 10.5 hours over 4 days? Anyway we dare not question you.

    You made a claim that the poll involved all classes of people in Anambra state, you did not and have not told us how you defined the classes and your questionaire did not make any mention of class of the respondents. How then can you claim that it was a poll of "all classes". Some may misconstrue this as academic fraud !

    I hope you will deal with this issue rather than goin off on a tangent.

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    You still have not told me your name, whether you are from Anambra state or not, is not really important. We are all Nigerians and should have a stake in what happens in any part of the country. I am Igbo, was born in the North (Oturkpo), have lived at Ibadan and planning soon (God willing) a partial relocation to Port Harcourt. I do not see why I should be indifferent to what is happening in any part of the country.
    Personal introduction is often the first indication that people want earnest discussion.

    a) I gave an average of what it would take if all interviewers were to get same number of questionnaire, which they didnt.

    b) In the consolidated reply, I clearly said the poll was concerned with 'Likely Voters' and this was determined by two screening questions. I also mentioned that the study did not set out to assess the particular demographics that supported each candidate. We felt that personal questions that are normally used for such classification would make it more difficult to get willing respondents.

    c) No, I do not mean you cannot ask questions. I am not that type as I actually enjoy discussions, even debates. It would bother me if people tell me that I am 'Mr Dont Tell Me'. In retrospect I feel that not being able to classify respondents into various social groups was a weakness because it would appear that 'intellectuals' and 'professionals' (the groups that are often more willing to participate in a survey) tended to support Soludo. However to do this would also create its own problems. I will be the first to tell you that the efforts were not without shortcomings, some of them from what someone called the 'Naija Effect'.
    d) I was not unmindful that whichever way the poll went, it would generate hard feelings. In my writings, I have sometimes written on issues I knew would be unpopular if I believed in them. Examples include: Supporting UniZik's award of Honorary Doctorate to Uba, Supporting Governors' MOU with Harvard University, coming against Governor Fashola's sack of Nude Dancers etc. This is not to suggest that I like to court controversy, just that it is not enough to stop me from doing anything I believe in.
    e) Given the outcome of the election, I have decided to make myself available to answer any question about the poll. Of course Joe Igbokwe is more than welcome for a debate on this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pcjadibe View Post
    You still have not told me your name, whether you are from Anambra state or not, is not really important. We are all Nigerians and should have a stake in what happens in any part of the country. I am Igbo, was born in the North (Oturkpo), have lived at Ibadan and planning soon (God willing) a partial relocation to Port Harcourt. I do not see why I should be indifferent to what is happening in any part of the country.
    Personal introduction is often the first indication that people want earnest discussion.

    a) I gave an average of what it would take if all interviewers were to get same number of questionnaire, which they didnt.

    b) In the consolidated reply, I clearly said the poll was concerned with 'Likely Voters' and this was determined by two screening questions. I also mentioned that the study did not set out to assess the particular demographics that supported each candidate. We felt that personal questions that are normally used for such classification would make it more difficult to get willing respondents.

    c) No, I do not mean you cannot ask questions. I am not that type as I actually enjoy discussions, even debates. It would bother me if people tell me that I am 'Mr Dont Tell Me'. In retrospect I feel that not being able to classify respondents into various social groups was a weakness because it would appear that 'intellectuals' and 'professionals' (the groups that are often more willing to participate in a survey) tended to support Soludo. However to do this would also create its own problems. I will be the first to tell you that the efforts were not without shortcomings, some of them from what someone called the 'Naija Effect'.
    d) I was not unmindful that whichever way the poll went, it would generate hard feelings. In my writings, I have sometimes written on issues I knew would be unpopular if I believed in them. Examples include: Supporting UniZik's award of Honorary Doctorate to Uba, Supporting Governors' MOU with Harvard University, coming against Governor Fashola's sack of Nude Dancers etc. This is not to suggest that I like to court controversy, just that it is not enough to stop me from doing anything I believe in.
    e) Given the outcome of the election, I have decided to make myself available to answer any question about the poll. Of course Joe Igbokwe is more than welcome for a debate on this.

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    Jideofor,

    Which database did you use??..... phone book or INEC voter register. You have rigmarole around the point. Your academic qualification is suspect. The bottom-line is that your poll is inherently defective and not in anyway scientific. It is also an insult on intellect if i take your title of (DR) serious. I expect anyone who has gone through the rudiments of earning a PhD to be more scientific... hiding under the fact that other reputable polls have gone wrong in the past is an unacceptable excuse because you have not been able to prove to us that you indeed carried out a well thought out poll. Please face the point and stop trying to unravel the personality of BUNCH17 who has exposed how fraudulent you poll is with simple scientific questions which you have not been able to answer.

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    [QUOTE=Chekereke;429972]Nigeria! Nigeria!! Nigeria!!! What a wonderful country! When PDP loses an election in Nigeria, the election is adjudged to be free and fair!


    Maybe you need to know that PDP will not win any free and fair election anywhere in Nigeria. If not for anything, for the fact that they have eleven years and several trillions of Naira to do things right but on the contrary, has worsened the fate of Nigerians. People win elections, not for the fancy of it, as you may believe, but to impact positively on a given space. Future electoral successes are dependent on satisfactory performance in office so on that score, PDP can never win a free and fair election in this country. So, Nigerians are calling for a free and fair electoral system and PDP is stalling it because it knows it is hated and loathed by the people. Why is it that in any election that has been adjudged free and fair, PDP always end up the loser? Freeness and fairness of an election is not a pejorative term that could be whimsically twisted to accommodate the electoral brigandage of the PDP just because any other party won one or two elections. When one sees a free and fair election, he knows without prompting.

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    I first read mr igbokwe's article on anoda Nigerian news site and was dismayed. I was very shocked that an adult should be throwing so much tantrum. What kind of example are we showing to the young ones? Mr igbokwe' comes across as a violent person who will be getting into physical fights with every one, and may be a wife beater (if he is married). Seriously anyone who knows the man should recommend anger management or psycho evaluation. His anger is not normal at all. Mr Igbokwe should also tell us what he does for a living so we can properly evaluate him bcos it is easy to try to pull people down. The real critics I respect, people like Falana and Soyinka, are distinguished in their careers. Many other critics are just pretenders who are jealous of other people's achievements.

    As for Bunch or Punch, are u not a greater fraud when you cannot even tell us ur real name? What are u hiding? U listed what u asked mr Adobe to answer but when he asked u to give ur real name u started saying you are not Igbo. U also misrepresented him. If u cannot stop using an alias, may be u are both a fraud and a coward.

    As for Mr Adobe, this anambra election is all over. Many things happen during elections but we should all move on.

    One more thing: Is mr igbokwe an nnewi man? I thought nnewi people are traders. I dont mean an offence bcos my younger sista is marriied to a very nice, polite but shrewd nnewi businessman

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    Jideofor Adibe owes no body any apology for deploying any non-illegal means to promote his candidate's fortunes in the election contest. His HollerAfrica opinion poll project cannot be construed to be 'aru' (abomination), aside it was meant to hoodwink the uninitiated.

    But Adibe may not be doing himself and his reputation any good if he continues to claim he had a non-partisan stand in those apparently, diluted, opinion polls.

    All the same, Joe Igbokwe ought not have descended so heavily on Adibe for deploying a means, he (Adibe) thought non-illegal in pursuit of a goal.

    On February 7, in an article I posted on the NVS, I asserted that the small percentage of voters in the election must not query the validity of its outcome. Those still questioning the validity of the poll result here from the standpoint of the abysmal number of people who were able to cast their votes do not sound convincing. Even if more than 90% voters did cast their votes, it is difficult to believe a different winner could have emerged.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rita Briggs View Post
    I first read mr igbokwe's article on anoda Nigerian news site and was dismayed. I was very shocked that an adult should be throwing so much tantrum. What kind of example are we showing to the young ones? Mr igbokwe' comes across as a violent person who will be getting into physical fights with every one, and may be a wife beater (if he is married). Seriously anyone who knows the man should recommend anger management or psycho evaluation. His anger is not normal at all. Mr Igbokwe should also tell us what he does for a living so we can properly evaluate him bcos it is easy to try to pull people down. The real critics I respect, people like Falana and Soyinka, are distinguished in their careers. Many other critics are just pretenders who are jealous of other people's achievements.

    As for Bunch or Punch, are u not a greater fraud when you cannot even tell us ur real name? What are u hiding? U listed what u asked mr Adobe to answer but when he asked u to give ur real name u started saying you are not Igbo. U also misrepresented him. If u cannot stop using an alias, may be u are both a fraud and a coward.

    As for Mr Adobe, this anambra election is all over. Many things happen during elections but we should all move on.

    One more thing: Is mr igbokwe an nnewi man? I thought nnewi people are traders. I dont mean an offence bcos my younger sista is marriied to a very nice, polite but shrewd nnewi businessman

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    ""One so-called Dr Adibe using a platform called Holler Africa tried to deceive the world, by giving us a thousand and one reasons why Soludo is the man to beat. Even when we drew his attention to his many lies, this depraved, pliant and pliable animal came out boldly a second time to support his fraudulent analysis. What will this fraudster do now? It is the height of intellectual profanity for anybody who says he possesses a Doctor of Philosophy in any university anywhere in the world to criminalize the public. The job of an intellectual is to speak the truth and nothing but the truth no matter whose ox is gored. Dr Adibe is an intellectual fraud, a disgrace to human conscience, an interloper, a hustler, and a cheat who tried to institutionalize lies for a mess of porridge. Dr Adibe belongs to what my friend Dr Okey Ndibe will call a cast of visionless, greedy and tragically mischievous leaders. Dr Adibe is nothing and Dr of nothing and out of nothing comes nothing""


    Joe you have always come across to me as a very loose canon willing to justify every crucibles of the crumbs you get from your paymasters in Lagos. You write ups even in times when it is meant to be sensible always betrays emotions that can only be exuded by a man of questionable complex. It is in your interest to indeed for once act like a grown up family man.
    By the way I am yet to see any press statement from you calling on the dregs in Lagos to stop distracting Raji Fashola.

    None of us wanted Soludo but nevertheless those that prefer him must not be forced to jump ship i.e. the beauty of democracy. It is out of decency for you to pen such prafanities against someones who begs to differ, if I may ask do you think Nigerians subscribe to your party the AC which is popularly described as a dumping ground for disused PDP thugs? but that is the same party you defend and profess like a belief.

    You have to curtail your emotions and for once write a decent article when next you decide to heat the world wide web.

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