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  1. Jul 11, 2010 ,  04:12 PM #1
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    Do you delight in showing your new baby off to every Tom,Dick and Harry at the naming or Baptismal ceremony?then,this palava is a must-read.Lady B is a very successful HR director in an oil company.she is in her 30s and has literally speaking ,struck oil!she told her confidant this her story and wants to ask if she should forgive and forget.
    According to her,one day her mum s senior sister came to meet her in the office.she said the woman must be in her 70s.she requested for privacy and they both locked themselves in Lady Bs office,then Mama knelt down,weeping profusely and begging for her forgiveness.
    An embarrassed Lady B dragged the poor woman to her feet.gave her a seat,hot coffee and she reeled off her offences.according to Lady B,Mama recalled that on the day of Lady B s naming ceremony,she was the one who carried her and while the Pastor and congregation was praying for the new child,Mama said she was busy cursing Lady B in her heart.!30 years on,Mama confessed that all the curses she rained that day thoroughly fell on her own six children one by one!
    Lady B said her mouth was hanging open because three of those kids were on her scholarship in the University,even though they have not shown any seriousness in their studies.to cut a long story short,Mama wants full forgiveness,since as she admitted all the curses have virtually come home to roost.part of the request for forgiveness is that Lady B should not tell her own mum and she should please continue the sponsorship of Mama s unserious kids in the University.she now asks her confidant:"How do i handle this situation?"the confidant asked me and i said,give me some time to digest it.as you my people know,two heads are better than one,ie:two good heads.HELP US AND THANKS.

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    First of all, we all sin (Isaiah 53:6 “We all, like sheep, have gone astray, each of us has turned to his own way” and Romans 3:23 “for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God”).

    The fact that you recognize your sin and feel badly about it should give you encouragement for several reasons. For one thing, a lot of people sin and don’t think there’s anything wrong with it – yet God has opened your eyes to seeing how destructive it can be. But God does not want you to live with guilt. He wants you to know and fully experience His forgiveness.

    God does not simply overlook our sin and say, “You’re forgiven.” God sees our sin but is ready to forgive us because Jesus fully took OUR sin on Himself and paid for our sin by His death on the cross. Our sin is serious and it cost Jesus incredible suffering. But from the moment we received Christ into our lives, His forgiveness is ours. We can’t ever make up for our own sin or suffer enough for it – nor does God want us to. “But God demonstrates His own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us” Romans 5:8.

    http://www.startingwithgod.com/questions/forgive/
    If God can forgive all our sins and not just some...she should forgive that woman. She should also tell mama to go for deliverance so that all the curses and the things she used her own hands to cause will be removed from the head of her children...that they might be set free...or else gbo gbo e akan ma jasi ofo fun won...empty..they will be suffering from non-achievement. She has to also be wise in all her dealings..God has been faithful to her and had shielded her and fought all her battles...the word of God said that all our children shall be taught of him and great shall be their peace.

    Isaiah 54 verses 13 all through to 17 has been a reality in this woman's life thus far...and shall be all through her life...oku ori re...i rejoice with that woman and rejoice with myself...it's a thing of beauty and great joy when ur unknown enemy comes forward to confess........da Lord is good oooooooo..abasi ayaya o

    13 All your sons will be taught by the LORD,
    and great will be your children's peace.

    14 In righteousness you will be established:
    Tyranny will be far from you;
    you will have nothing to fear.
    Terror will be far removed;
    it will not come near you.

    15 If anyone does attack you, it will not be my doing;
    whoever attacks you will surrender to you.

    16 "See, it is I who created the blacksmith
    who fans the coals into flame
    and forges a weapon fit for its work.
    And it is I who have created the destroyer to work havoc;

    17 no weapon forged against you will prevail,
    and you will refute every tongue that accuses you.
    This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD,
    and this is their vindication from me,"
    declares the LORD.
    She should not allow the woman's confession to distract her from what she has been doing for that family...remember that when u pray for ur enemies..u're invariably pouring hot coals of fire on them.

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    So called confession from a woman who is probably dementing! What is the point of education when allegedly educated homo sapiens hold on to these grotesque magical thinking ways?

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    Quote Originally Posted by agensheku View Post
    Do you delight in showing your new baby off to every Tom,Dick and Harry at the naming or Baptismal ceremony?then,this palava is a must-read.Lady B is a very successful HR director in an oil company.she is in her 30s and has literally speaking ,struck oil!she told her confidant this her story and wants to ask if she should forgive and forget.
    According to her,one day her mum s senior sister came to meet her in the office.she said the woman must be in her 70s.she requested for privacy and they both locked themselves in Lady Bs office,then Mama knelt down,weeping profusely and begging for her forgiveness.
    An embarrassed Lady B dragged the poor woman to her feet.gave her a seat,hot coffee and she reeled off her offences.according to Lady B,Mama recalled that on the day of Lady B s naming ceremony,she was the one who carried her and while the Pastor and congregation was praying for the new child,Mama said she was busy cursing Lady B in her heart.!30 years on,Mama confessed that all the curses she rained that day thoroughly fell on her own six children one by one!
    Lady B said her mouth was hanging open because three of those kids were on her scholarship in the University,even though they have not shown any seriousness in their studies.to cut a long story short,Mama wants full forgiveness,since as she admitted all the curses have virtually come home to roost.part of the request for forgiveness is that Lady B should not tell her own mum and she should please continue the sponsorship of Mama s unserious kids in the University.she now asks her confidant:"How do i handle this situation?"the confidant asked me and i said,give me some time to digest it.as you my people know,two heads are better than one,ie:two good heads.HELP US AND THANKS.
    I don't see any reason why the woman shouldn't forgive someone who has genuinely asked for forgiveness.
    Sounds like a no brainer to me especially since the so called curses had no effect.
    Her aunt's actions were born out of ignorance and perhaps jealousy.
    She was probably jealous of her younger sister having a baby before her. (the niece is already in her 30's while her cousins,the children of her mother's elder sister are still undergraduates.)

    If I were her (the niece),I would forgive but I will let her know that I can't keep this as a secret.
    I would tell my mom ( only if she's a born again Christian) but in a tone that would not infuriate her
    Then make arrangements for the whole family i.e,aunt,her kids,myself and my immediate family to meet a man of God for a family deliverance to break these curses off the lineage.

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    One of the many reasons why I can't hang out with Nigerians.
    Primitive mindsets.


    Mama said she was busy cursing Lady B in her heart.!30 years on,Mama confessed that all the curses she rained that day thoroughly fell on her own six children one by one.
    Is she God? What made her think she had such powers as to "curse" people and fashion their destinies? If not for material and spirtual poverty???


    :"How do i handle this situation?"the confidant asked me
    Please, this is not a palava. Let her just thank the prolly senile woman(early stages of alzheimer's disease) I am sure and continue with her life including sponsoring who ever she chooses to sponsor. But by all means she should NEVER let that woman into her home or anywhere near her. Such people with negative thoughts and energies can only weigh you down with constantly with distracting and unproductive negative vibes.

    See a woman who is supposed to be a mother to all.......cursing and beetching all over the place. Enemies of progress.How can any child of her's be normal when she is a nutjob herself? The reason why MOST women will remain unhealthy physically and emotionally.....dying silently in primitive environments where joblessness and illiteracy reign supreme. This woman prolly has lived a long-suffering and smiling domestic life.....no education, no job. Just a breeding machine. I am Just wondering what kind of marriage she was in or what kind of man she was with to make her curse her own six children.....??? A very unhappy life methinks.

    Honestly.....mixing all kinds of religions in Africa can only breed such spiritual vagabonds. Only God knows how many people this woman has poisoned or killed with this her warped mentality. These kinds of people are the ones you will find in front of the pastors praising and singing in the most sparkling robes at the top of their voices.......with darker than midnight.

    Hmmm!

    Well berra late than never. I would not be entertaining this woman anywhere near myself or my family......Terrible.

    The mind is a terrible thing to waste....I tellya!

    Lord have mercy!!!


    Do you delight in showing your new baby off to every Tom,Dick and Harry at the naming or Baptismal ceremony?
    Damn right! They can't do sh*t!
    No one is my God.
    If things happen....it is because God said they would not man.
    If you operate with an absolute clear conscience.....NOTHING can touch you!


    If an oyinbo woman is pregnant......as soon as she finds out, they whole world knows(with ultrasound pictures and all to show in her excitement) and everyone is happy for her.......except the desperate baby snatchers of course. Sorry, not in the habit of "fearing" the unknown for no reasons. The enemies can only try.....but will never succeed. God has the final say as in "Amen". Superstition has no place in my life.

    You ask a Nigerian or African woman if she is pregnant at the utmost showing.....you get things like:

    I nor know ooooooh, I nefa see doctor.....
    My body dey do me one kain...
    I never check o....
    I just dey gain weight.....

    All lies.....meanwhile she is wretchin' and pukin' all over the place without her monthly cycles and about to give birth......

    Because of people like these idle trouble-makers of a "MAMA" in this story.


    It is not a crime to be happy and show it...only in Africa I guess.....

    We have a loooong way to go I tellya.

    Blessed are the poor in 'Flesh and Spirit'..........:for we shall continue to pray for them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by agensheku View Post
    Do you delight in showing your new baby off to every Tom,Dick and Harry at the naming or Baptismal ceremony?then,this palava is a must-read.Lady B is a very successful HR director in an oil company.she is in her 30s and has literally speaking ,struck oil!she told her confidant this her story and wants to ask if she should forgive and forget.
    According to her,one day her mum s senior sister came to meet her in the office.she said the woman must be in her 70s.she requested for privacy and they both locked themselves in Lady Bs office,then Mama knelt down,weeping profusely and begging for her forgiveness.
    An embarrassed Lady B dragged the poor woman to her feet.gave her a seat,hot coffee and she reeled off her offences.according to Lady B,Mama recalled that on the day of Lady B s naming ceremony,she was the one who carried her and while the Pastor and congregation was praying for the new child,Mama said she was busy cursing Lady B in her heart.!30 years on,Mama confessed that all the curses she rained that day thoroughly fell on her own six children one by one!
    Lady B said her mouth was hanging open because three of those kids were on her scholarship in the University,even though they have not shown any seriousness in their studies.to cut a long story short,Mama wants full forgiveness,since as she admitted all the curses have virtually come home to roost.part of the request for forgiveness is that Lady B should not tell her own mum and she should please continue the sponsorship of Mama s unserious kids in the University.she now asks her confidant:"How do i handle this situation?"the confidant asked me and i said,give me some time to digest it.as you my people know,two heads are better than one,ie:two good heads.HELP US AND THANKS.

    Agens,

    This "palavas" you bring... dem get as they be o...

    The lady asked "How do i handle this situation?"

    My question is, is the lady saved? In other words, is she a born-again Christian? If she is, I'll respond accordingly, if she's not, I'll respond accordingly. Kindly confirm. Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oluwato View Post
    Agens,

    This "palavas" you bring... dem get as they be o...

    The lady asked "How do i handle this situation?"

    My question is, is the lady saved? In other words, is she a born-again Christian? If she is, I'll respond accordingly, if she's not, I'll respond accordingly. Kindly confirm. Thanks!
    As i no be an oracle or the pastor who presided over her re-birth,i may not be able to answer your questions.but i know she attends sunday service regularly and punctually too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by agensheku View Post
    As i no be an oracle or the pastor who presided over her re-birth,i may not be able to answer your questions.but i know she attends sunday service regularly and punctually too.
    Ask your informant, the lady's confidant to find out from her.

    Bottom line she has to forgive, that releases her. However, the 'forget' part may be a challenge if she's not saved...

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    if she is a christian then she really has no choice, there's something i heard somewhere, 'Christians that dont know how to forgive are like that because the haven't realised how much they've been forgiven'...(or something like that sha)

    mennn i've never been very keen on the whole 'baby=trophy' thing sef...

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    Abeg, dis wan no be palava. Of course she should forgive but she should stay away from that family; she can keep helping but never give them cash.

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    Abeg, dis wan no be palava. Of course she should forgive but she should stay away from that family; she can keep helping but never give them cash.
    Is there any particular reason you're asking her not to give them cash jumpandpass?. I'm really curious to know the thought process behind such advice if you don't mind. Btw if she has been helping as the story claim all this time, I'll bet the assistance has included monetary/cash at some point(agen am I right in assuming this?). If so, what difference will never giving cash again make now.

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    Is there any particular reason you're asking her not to give them cash jumpandpass?. I'm really curious to know the thought process behind such advice if you don't mind. Btw if she has been helping as the story claim all this time, I'll bet the assistance has included monetary/cash at some point(agen am I right in assuming this?). If so, what difference will never giving cash again make now.
    I assume, evil spirits are better transmitted by cash than by cheque or voucher. To protect this kind woman, I suggest she pays cash into my account and I will convert it to a harmless form.

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    Personal belonging - piece of clothing alike is used to harm. Not just only money given to bad people, or meant to help them out. Best redirect their pleas of help to caritas or red cross. This is exactly the purpose of charity. The best place for unconditional help, for enemies and friends alike. Nothing personal.

    It is the best to break off all contacts with such people for good. And thank God always for his merciful blessings that can never come from any man.

    In that way, what ever they do is surely a return to sender. No matter how much promises and attitude of change of heart/attitude towards their victims. It is best to move on, with no hard feelings and also no sympathy.
    *What point can she prove by continuing with any contact knowing what she knows now?
    *That God is no longer merciful indeed for saving her? It is best to leave all human failings for God.

    Don't ever believe (change of character / promises) what comes out of the mouth of any witch/wizard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by agensheku View Post
    Do you delight in showing your new baby off to every Tom,Dick and Harry at the naming or Baptismal ceremony?then,this palava is a must-read.
    When I read this again, I wonder why simple joy should become a burden. What's wrong with being joyful about one's family? It's insecurity, jealousy and even wickedness to expect the joyful to fear, hide and lie.

    Quote Originally Posted by agensheku View Post
    According to her,one day her mum s senior sister came to meet her in the office.she said the woman must be in her 70s.she requested for privacy and they both locked themselves in Lady Bs office,then Mama knelt down,weeping profusely and begging for her forgiveness.
    This is an aunt for goodness' sake. When enemies abound in the family why should strangers matter? Reminds me of the Yoruba proverb; Enkule lota wa, ile laseni ngbe (the enemy is in the backyard, but the culprit lives within the family house).

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    part of the request for forgiveness is that Lady B should not tell her own mum and she should please continue the sponsorship of Mama s unserious kids in the University.
    Why shouldn't the lady's mum know? The sinner does not make the rules.... anyway, Agens, when you declare the Christianity status of lady B, then I can properly state the remedy. Forgiveness is just part of what she needs to do...there's a spiritual authority issue here, but I must know the spiritual status. Thank you.

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    If the old woman is really repentant, there should be no conditions and no secrecy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by valteena View Post
    Is there any particular reason you're asking her not to give them cash jumpandpass?. I'm really curious to know the thought process behind such advice if you don't mind. Btw if she has been helping as the story claim all this time, I'll bet the assistance has included monetary/cash at some point(agen am I right in assuming this?). If so, what difference will never giving cash again make now.
    Sorry,Val...just seen this.she has some of her aunt s children on her scholarship and of course,yes she gves them pocket money too.
    OLUWATO:yes,she is a born again xtian.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Myne Whitman View Post
    If the old woman is really repentant, there should be no conditions and no secrecy.
    Essaitely!

    Anyhow, if these folks are christian, tell them to PM me.

    If not, let them go to Blazes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by agensheku View Post
    OLUWATO:yes,she is a born again xtian.
    Then she has three things she must do;
    1) Tell her pastor or any other authorized elder in her church so that she receives God-constituted counsel and they support her spiritually
    2) Take her authority over evil spirits and break whatever evil covenants were made on her behalf or over her children and
    3) Continue to support the woman's children but with a condition of godliness on their sponsorship, in other words, the woman's children must not abuse her (the sponsor) or her children in any form

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    Sometimes it's the uncles, aunts and cousins that smile most with you that one needs to worry most about. Most times your enemy is a lot closer than you think. I don't really believe in this juju thing, what is more worrying is that they wanted harm to come your way and went ahead to act on it - in this case possibly via a babalawo or some fake ritual/witch thing. What if the action was physical and she had died, who would mama be apologizing to now. As the good book days - treat others as you would treat yourself. Your lady B should think of how she would treat herself in this situation and she's got the answers to her question...

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    Ahem!
    Beta palava jare!
    Wey this Valteena sef eh kwah???


    if she is a christian then she really has no choice, there's something i heard somewhere, 'Christians that dont know how to forgive are like that because the haven't realised how much they've been forgiven'
    You don't know that 'religion' is DO AS I SAY AND NOT AS I DO....ACCORDING TO THE GOSPEL OF ???

    You mean "Ogboni-Okija" kind of Child-Witch believing Christians????
    With principalities and "Pawas" shooting and manifesting from generation to generation in the forms of delusions and psychoses???
    You sometimes wonder why some men hate women.....or can't get along with women. Because of their "MAMAS" of course......who have cursed them for life. Or some women can't settle down....in their domestic lives with the men or FELLOW WOMEN in their lives...always with biti body bad belle and jolosi syyndromes eating away their bodies...souls and spirits....NEVER HAPPY.....ALWAYS DEPRESSED AND MOROSE......You find them Just roaming around with bible and koran in one hand, plus liquid/solid and gaseous charms in their Corpoaral Okafor/Suraju pa-heints...looking for someone to ritualize.......to rejuvenate their spiritually barren bodies and souls........Tufiakwa I say........Kai!!!

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    FROM THEIR OWM MOMMAS AND POPPAS.....CURSES....NEMESIS...CONFESSSSSSSIONS AND REQUEST FOR FOGIVENESS OOOOOH!

    Tufiakwa!!!

    You don see where woman go curse im own pickin???? Bad blood....conceived from hit and run satanic immaculate ejaculations in some evil forests/bushes(no homes o) of unholy shrine matrimonies.....without room for salvation!!!!
    Children of Belzeebub!!!!....LOL

    No wonder some of us have to take a break once in a while from the "CYBER" to enter some form of "PSYCHO-REHAB" for some days and weeks.....to receive some MM 'shots, titers or boosters'....Medical Marijuana...he he he...to function around others cyberly or otherwise however only temporarily....till the JIM IYKE syndrome flares up again!!!!
    Na disi MAMA go born disi kind wans.....LOL

    He he he he he


    Na wa for curses, nemesis and confessions for Christian world oooooooh!!!
    Ju-ju worshipping Christians!!!!
    God has to do a lot of work.....the reason he keeps postponing this second coming of HIS...I tellya!


    Teee hee hee hee hee

    Who knows.....maybe some "Child witches" escaped "MAMA"......so they are coming to torment her now.
    She should have burned all-a-dem. Serves her right!!!
    Errrrrrrrrrrm you shua say MAMA and some her ssshiiidrens nor dey witi us for hia so?


    Wey ma gun abeg???......This in no time for fasting and praying...time to shoot her ars*sse!!! She go shint out all those winches for sure.

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  21. Jul 28, 2010 ,  09:03 PM #21
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    See "MAMA" dey confess o!!!

    Tee hee hee hee hee
    LOLLLLLL!!!!!!

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  22. Jul 28, 2010 ,  11:47 PM #22
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    Beware of evil mothers.....spreading curses and nemesis to their children. So, the children remain miserable for life....spreading their badluck around the world to others.....never happy in their lives. Keep such ugly souls away from you....so you the diseases of failure, misery, poverty, poor domestic/professional relationships do not spread to your life.....!!!!:shake:

    Hear ye....
    Hear ye.....

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