My neighbour s husband wants her new car!

[agensheku]

My next-door neighbours,lets call them Mr and Mrs X are quarreling over the wife s newly acquired tokunbo car.she is a nursing sister and bobo is a cop.according to her,when she first bought a nissan sunny two years ago,Mr X virtually took over the keys.he dropped her at work and cruised about all day long.when the car has a fault,bobo phones the mechanic and asks her to pick the bills!so,she decided to let him keep that and has just acquired a Honda bulldog through a cooperative loan.for a couple of weeks,she enjoyed the ride until bobo started making moves to handover the sunny and take over the Honda.the wife doesnt want any of that,but her resistance is weak as Mr X will make the home front uncomfortable for her if she refuses him.they have two kids and she is not too keen to abandon her marriage.she asked me for advice and i asked her to give me a couple of days to consult with those who are more knowledgeable.wetin make she do now?

[HolyPagan]

My next-door neighbours,lets call them Mr and Mrs X are quarreling over the wife s newly acquired tokunbo car.she is a nursing sister and bobo is a cop.according to her,when she first bought a nissan sunny two years ago,Mr X virtually took over the keys.he dropped her at work and cruised about all day long.when the car has a fault,bobo phones the mechanic and asks her to pick the bills!so,she decided to let him keep that and has just acquired a Honda bulldog through a cooperative loan.for a couple of weeks,she enjoyed the ride until bobo started making moves to handover the sunny and take over the Honda.the wife doesnt want any of that,but her resistance is weak as Mr X will make the home front uncomfortable for her if she refuses him.they have two kids and she is not too keen to abandon her marriage.she asked me for advice and i asked her to give me a couple of days to consult with those who are more knowledgeable.wetin make she do now?

Negotiate, Negotiate, Negotiate.
If at the end of the day, He just wants Honda and narrin else will do, she should just go back to her Sunny..how for do?
She may have been training him on how to treat her thus, without realising it.

Agens...the thing is, we teach people how to treat us.
Hubby did not wake up one day and decided on the asset grab.
I bet she has never even told him how she feels about his behaviour.

She should talk with him, and find out what informs his behaviour, and tell him how she feels about being treated that way.
Depending on what he says, she will then, based on her knowledge of his personality, and history of conflict resolution,, decide how best to handle him, and still maintain peace and harmony in the home.

Dont forget that if the Man is free and generous with his own things, he is just assuming she would be same. So it may not be a case of over-lordship, per se.


If she is not happy she should talk to him....Talk is good...very very good.

[Oluwato]

She is not assertive! Are they Christians? Let her talk to her pastor to mediate if they are. If they are not Christians, let her go to his superiors...but most importantly, she MUST learn to be assertive...he is a leech and if she doesn't become assertive in putting her foot down and setting proper boundaries, he will most likely drain her to death!

My next-door neighbours,lets call them Mr and Mrs X are quarreling over the wife s newly acquired tokunbo car.she is a nursing sister and bobo is a cop.according to her,when she first bought a nissan sunny two years ago,Mr X virtually took over the keys.he dropped her at work and cruised about all day long.when the car has a fault,bobo phones the mechanic and asks her to pick the bills!so,she decided to let him keep that and has just acquired a Honda bulldog through a cooperative loan.for a couple of weeks,she enjoyed the ride until bobo started making moves to handover the sunny and take over the Honda.the wife doesnt want any of that,but her resistance is weak as Mr X will make the home front uncomfortable for her if she refuses him.they have two kids and she is not too keen to abandon her marriage.she asked me for advice and i asked her to give me a couple of days to consult with those who are more knowledgeable.wetin make she do now?

[Iye]

Agens, the one wey dey vex me na this COP wey you write....do we have cops in 9ja?

Biko they are called olopa and he�s acting true to his name � (madam watin you carry)

I think the guy knows how to tickle her fancy that�s why she�s asking you for advice.

Please, ask her to jejely give the guy the new car and go buy another one and give

it to him too.

Hot husband like that scarce for town.

Cop ko, tumbler ni

[Vade Mecum]

My next-door neighbours,lets call them Mr and Mrs X are quarreling over the wife s newly acquired tokunbo car.she is a nursing sister and bobo is a cop.according to her,when she first bought a nissan sunny two years ago,Mr X virtually took over the keys.he dropped her at work and cruised about all day long.when the car has a fault,bobo phones the mechanic and asks her to pick the bills!so,she decided to let him keep that and has just acquired a Honda bulldog through a cooperative loan.for a couple of weeks,she enjoyed the ride until bobo started making moves to handover the sunny and take over the Honda.the wife doesnt want any of that,but her resistance is weak as Mr X will make the home front uncomfortable for her if she refuses him.they have two kids and she is not too keen to abandon her marriage.she asked me for advice and i asked her to give me a couple of days to consult with those who are more knowledgeable.wetin make she do now?

Wives and Husbands

22Wives, submit to your husbands as to the Lord. 23For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior. 24Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything.

25Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her 26to make her holy, cleansing[b] her by the washing with water through the word, 27and to present her to himself as a radiant church, without stain or wrinkle or any other blemish, but holy and blameless. 28In this same way, husbands ought to love their wives as their own bodies. He who loves his wife loves himself. 29After all, no one ever hated his own body, but he feeds and cares for it, just as Christ does the church� 30for we are members of his body. 31"For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh."[c] 32This is a profound mystery�but I am talking about Christ and the church. 33However, each one of you also must love his wife as he loves himself, and the wife must respect her husband.

10 Virtues of the Proverbs 31 Woman

Women are encouraged to serve God in every aspect of their lives.

1. Faith - A Virtuous Woman serves God with all of her heart, mind, and soul. She seeks His will for her life and follows His ways. (Proverbs 31: 26, Proverbs 31: 29 � 31, Matthew 22: 37, John 14: 15, Psalm 119: 15

2. Marriage � A Virtuous Woman respects her husband. She does him good all the days of her life. She is trustworthy and a helpmeet. (Proverbs 31: 11- 12, Proverbs 31: 23, Proverbs 31: 28, 1 Peter 3, Ephesians 5, Genesis2: 18)

3. Mothering - A Virtuous Woman teaches her children the ways of her Father in heaven. She nurtures her children with the love of Christ, disciplines them with care and wisdom, and trains them in the way they should go. (Proverbs 31: 28, Proverbs 31: 26, Proverbs 22: 6, Deuteronomy 6, Luke 18: 16)

4. Health � A Virtuous Woman cares for her body. She prepares healthy food for her family. (Proverbs 31: 14 � 15, Proverbs 31: 17, 1 Corinthians 6: 19, Genesis 1: 29, Daniel 1, Leviticus 11)

5. Service - A Virtuous Woman serves her husband, her family, her friends, and her neighbors with a gentle and loving spirit. She is charitable. (Proverbs 31: 12, Proverbs 31: 15, Proverbs 31: 20, 1 Corinthians 13: 13)

6. Finances - A Virtuous Woman seeks her husband�s approval before making purchases and spends money wisely. She is careful to purchase quality items which her family needs. (Proverbs 31: 14, Proverbs 31: 16, Proverbs 31: 18, 1 Timothy 6: 10, Ephesians 5: 23, Deuteronomy 14: 22, Numbers 18: 26)

7. Industry � A Virtuous Woman works willingly with her hands. She sings praises to God and does not grumble while completing her tasks. (Proverbs 31: 13, Proverbs 31: 16, Proverbs 31: 24, Proverbs 31: 31, Philippians 2: 14)

8. Homemaking � A Virtuous Woman is a homemaker. She creates an inviting atmosphere of warmth and love for her family and guests. She uses hospitality to minister to those around her. (Proverbs 31: 15, Proverbs 31: 20 � 22, Proverbs 31: 27, Titus 2: 5, 1 Peter 4: 9, Hebrews 13: 2)

9. Time - A Virtuous Woman uses her time wisely. She works diligently to complete her daily tasks. She does not spend time dwelling on those things that do not please the Lord. (Proverbs 31: 13, Proverbs 31: 19, Proverbs 31: 27, Ecclesiastes 3, Proverbs 16: 9, Philippians 4:8 )

10. Beauty � A Virtuous Woman is a woman of worth and beauty. She has the inner beauty that only comes from Christ. She uses her creativity and sense of style to create beauty in her life and the lives of her loved ones. (Proverbs 31: 10Proverbs 31: 21 � 22, Proverbs 31: 24 -25, Isaiah 61: 10, 1 Timothy 2: 9, 1 Peter 3: 1 � 6)


Ecclesiastes 4:9-10 (New International Version)

Two are better than one,
because they have a good return for their work:

If one falls down, his friend can help him up.
But pity the man who falls and has no one to help him up!


Proverbs 31:23

Her husband is respected at the city gate,
where he takes his seat among the elders of the land.


Proverbs 31:28

28 Her children arise and call her blessed;
her husband also, and he praises her:


Proverbs 12:4 (New International Version)

4 A wife of noble character is her husband's crown, but a disgraceful wife is like decay in his bones.

Proverbs 18:22 (King James Version)

Whoso findeth a wife findeth a good thing, and obtaineth favour of the LORD.


Proverbs 19:14(GOD�S WORD Translation)

14Home and wealth are inherited from fathers,
but a sensible wife comes from the Lord

[HolyPagan]

10 Virtues of the Proverbs 31 Woman

Women are encouraged to serve God in every aspect of their lives.

1. Faith - A Virtuous Woman serves God with all of her heart, mind, and soul. She seeks His will for her life and follows His ways. (Proverbs 31: 26, Proverbs 31: 29 � 31, Matthew 22: 37, John 14: 15, Psalm 119: 15

2. Marriage � A Virtuous Woman respects her husband. She does him good all the days of her life. She is trustworthy and a helpmeet. (Proverbs 31: 11- 12, Proverbs 31: 23, Proverbs 31: 28, 1 Peter 3, Ephesians 5, Genesis2: 18)

3. Mothering - A Virtuous Woman teaches her children the ways of her Father in heaven. She nurtures her children with the love of Christ, disciplines them with care and wisdom, and trains them in the way they should go. (Proverbs 31: 28, Proverbs 31: 26, Proverbs 22: 6, Deuteronomy 6, Luke 18: 16)

4. Health � A Virtuous Woman cares for her body. She prepares healthy food for her family. (Proverbs 31: 14 � 15, Proverbs 31: 17, 1 Corinthians 6: 19, Genesis 1: 29, Daniel 1, Leviticus 11)

5. Service - A Virtuous Woman serves her husband, her family, her friends, and her neighbors with a gentle and loving spirit. She is charitable. (Proverbs 31: 12, Proverbs 31: 15, Proverbs 31: 20, 1 Corinthians 13: 13)

6. Finances - A Virtuous Woman seeks her husband�s approval before making purchases and spends money wisely. She is careful to purchase quality items which her family needs. (Proverbs 31: 14, Proverbs 31: 16, Proverbs 31: 18, 1 Timothy 6: 10, Ephesians 5: 23, Deuteronomy 14: 22, Numbers 18: 26)

7. Industry � A Virtuous Woman works willingly with her hands. She sings praises to God and does not grumble while completing her tasks. (Proverbs 31: 13, Proverbs 31: 16, Proverbs 31: 24, Proverbs 31: 31, Philippians 2: 14)

8. Homemaking � A Virtuous Woman is a homemaker. She creates an inviting atmosphere of warmth and love for her family and guests. She uses hospitality to minister to those around her. (Proverbs 31: 15, Proverbs 31: 20 � 22, Proverbs 31: 27, Titus 2: 5, 1 Peter 4: 9, Hebrews 13: 2)

9. Time - A Virtuous Woman uses her time wisely. She works diligently to complete her daily tasks. She does not spend time dwelling on those things that do not please the Lord. (Proverbs 31: 13, Proverbs 31: 19, Proverbs 31: 27, Ecclesiastes 3, Proverbs 16: 9, Philippians 4:8 )

10. Beauty � A Virtuous Woman is a woman of worth and beauty. She has the inner beauty that only comes from Christ. She uses her creativity and sense of style to create beauty in her life and the lives of her loved ones. (Proverbs 31: 10Proverbs 31: 21 � 22, Proverbs 31: 24 -25, Isaiah 61: 10, 1 Timothy 2: 9, 1 Peter 3: 1 � 6)


Ecclesiastes 4:9-10 (New International Version)

Two are better than one,
because they have a good return for their work:

If one falls down,
his friend can help him up.
But pity the man who falls
and has no one to help him up!


Proverbs 31:23

Her husband is respected at the city gate,
where he takes his seat among the elders of the land.


Proverbs 31:28

28 Her children arise and call her blessed;
her husband also, and he praises her:


Proverbs 12:4 (New International Version)

4 A wife of noble character is her husband's crown,
but a disgraceful wife is like decay in his bones.

Proverbs 18:22 (King James Version)

Whoso findeth a wife findeth a good thing, and obtaineth favour of the LORD.


Proverbs 19:14(GOD�S WORD Translation)

14Home and wealth are inherited from fathers,
but a sensible wife comes from the Lord

[Soul Sista]

What does the virtuous woman have to do with this palava, Vade Mecum?

This promises to be an interesting one.

Soul Sista a/k/a Soul Sizzling

[Myne Whitman]

To keep the peace, she may have to hand over the Honda. But in the process, she should make it clear that whoever drives pays the bills for their car of choice. Policeman should also help her pay off the car loan from the co-op.

[purple]

Nonsense. She should not hand over her car to her husband. HP makes a lot of good points in her resopnse. This man is more of a leech than a husband. A husband provides and protects. This man seems to exploit and abuse.

Marriage is for men and not for boys. If this guy lacks maturity and the ability to provide, maybe he should not have gotten married in the first place. Where is his pride and dignity? How dare him intimidate his wife and force her to surrender the car to him. He is so shameless that he cannot even pay repair bills for the first car and lets his long suffering wife pick up the tab. What a wimp!

Mulan, you are saying she should let him have the car for peace to reign. What kind of peace will she have when she is brimming over with resentment, bitterness or even hatred? How can she respect a man who treats her so shabbily. Before we know it, things may degenerate to open warfare between them. Little things that are unresloved have a way of snowballing and becoming an avalanche.

She should stand her ground and not give him access to this car based on his history. If mutual respect can be restored in this marriage and the guy is rehabilitated and the woman gets some strength in her spinal column, then a car sharing arrangement can be reached.

VM, the Scriptures command that if a man does not work, he should not eat. We are also told that a man that does not provide (transportation included, yes ke) for his own household is worse than an infidel. An oyinbo man invented the automobile and placed his dear wife in it to protect her dainty feet from the trials of walking. Naija man who did not invent nada is now strong arming his wife to ride 'tokunbo' o ma se o What a shame!

[agensheku]

Iye,you got it right!why is someone dragging religion into this thing now.i am eagerly awaiting someone s advice to know whether i should talk to Mrs X or not...hello Dewdrops!are you home or away?my sister,First Lady,how now?when i mix the good,the bad and the ugly,some sense will come out.but a man who sulks when the wife BEGS to use the Nissan sunny when they only had a car,who can guess what he could do if she denies him the dominant use of the Honda?he could demand:"wey ya paticulass!"

[agbonizuanghwe]

The answer is fair exchange. What does he cheriish that she could take off him (even if she does not need said thing)? That would be her bargaining chip. She could also set a tough task for him to carry out (basically set him up to fail) before he gets the car.

All she has to be is be earnest about it, no faffing around. You give or do x to get car. notthing comes but easy. It would demonstrate to him that he should play more than receiver in that union, even if he does not win.

...and all that using children as an excuse for not leaving the marriage simply does not wash. Is the reason the guy can't buy his own car because he picks up all the other bills in house? then she should basically just give it up immediately since that is the opportunity cost.

The good side is if he gets to drive the newer car then the mechanic bills go down (unless ofcourse he is really bad with cars?) then she can handle the nisssan with care given that she does not ordinarily cruise around the town like the dude?

[HolyPagan]

My next-door neighbours,lets call them Mr and Mrs X are quarreling over the wife s newly acquired tokunbo car.she is a nursing sister and bobo is a cop.according to her,when she first bought a nissan sunny two years ago,Mr X virtually took over the keys.he dropped her at work and cruised about all day long.when the car has a fault,bobo phones the mechanic and asks her to pick the bills!so,she decided to let him keep that and has just acquired a Honda bulldog through a cooperative loan.for a couple of weeks,she enjoyed the ride until bobo started making moves to handover the sunny and take over the Honda.the wife doesnt want any of that,but her resistance is weak as Mr X will make the home front uncomfortable for her if she refuses him.they have two kids and she is not too keen to abandon her marriage.she asked me for advice and i asked her to give me a couple of days to consult with those who are more knowledgeable.wetin make she do now?

Make una hear Oo..Agens don tok say im resistance weak..She is not going to be able to do all that strong woman stuff Oooo....
I think she should start 'talking' to him, and don't stop, until his ears start working...and he starts listening to her concerns.

[netotse]

@vade mecum
i say this respectfully...

scripture is living and active, there's nothing living and active in what you posted, you just downloaded scriptures there, it seemed as if you were moralizing, what OP was asking for was advice, we all know what the bible says concerning submission, it's the application that matters!

@oluwato
i dunno if it's me o, but if my wife(when i get one...hopefully soon...lol) calls a pastor to talk to me, that's the surest sign that she wont get what she wants, i dont buy all the pastor butting his head into my biz.

i'm very possesive of my faith and stuff like that so when anyone tries to influence/manipulate me and he/she even looks in the direction of my faith that's the surest sign that the person'll carry last!

@OP
i'm with HP on this issue...

[valteena]

First the wifey bought a Nissan and hubby commandeered it, cruise it around while wifey picked up the repair bills. Now wifey bought a Honda probably out of frustration and necessity from hubby�s monopoly of the only car for the family and he now wants the Honda.

Ordinarily I would say if he wants to cruise in a Honda, let him get himself one. If he likes let him sulk from now till thy kingdom come, the wife should stand her ground and keep the Honda. Beggers can�t be chosers lol.

But again this is marriage we're talking about here. A union in which two people are suppose to come together to become one in my view. Yours becomes mine and vice versa or ours. The woman seem to me to see her marriage in that light, whereas the hubby does not and seem to be taking advantage of the woman's commitment to their marriage.

If the above is not the case, I would suggest that the woman gets guarantee that the man will pick up the loan repayment and repair bills for the Honda, then she could give him the Honda. As for the Nissan, she can sell or use it as part exchange for another Honda for herself. Both of them owning same type of Honda each should resolve the "better car" palava which seem to the the issue here.

If it is the case that she is financially better off than hubby and he can't take ownership of the loan repayment, let her continue with the loan repayment arrangement if she can afford to, but at the least get the hubby to foot the repair bills for his own Honda.

Btw is there any reason why the man cannot buy his own car agens? What is his olopa rank? Does he not make enough from the toll they collect from motorist to share to be able to get himself a car?.

I am also wondering why the wife would confide her marital woes to you and seek your advice. You didn�t say you�re family friends with them and being neighbours does not necessarily translate into family friendship or is that the case here? Since she has come to you with this problem and you've already promised to advice her, you might as well keep your promise. I would be very careful if I were you, that the hubby does not accuse you of undermining his home/marriage or having affairs with his wife.

Agens I am curious to know what is your own take on this as a man? Forget the input of others here, on your own and going by your years of experience, what would you have adviced her.

[Myne Whitman]

Purple, I am going on the facts before us, and don't want to make rash judgments on the man or the marriage. I don't see why she shoulf hold hatred or resntment in her heart for having to hand over a car to the man if other aspects of the marriage are working. What is a car after all? Is that comparable to the love she had for the man when she married him? I believe in live and let live. If it will pain her too much to share the Honda, then she should not. But if it is something she can live with, the next best thing to negotiate a favorable compromise. If the man pays off the loan, is he not the buyer of the car then? I think proper communication between the couple is lacking sha.

Nonsense. She should not hand over her car to her husband. HP makes a lot of good points in her resopnse. This man is more of a leech than a husband. A husband provides and protects. This man seems to exploit and abuse.


Mulan, you are saying she should let him have the car for peace to reign. What kind of peace will she have when she is brimming over with resentment, bitterness or even hatred? How can she respect a man who treats her so shabbily. Before we know it, things may degenerate to open warfare between them. Little things that are unresloved have a way of snowballing and becoming an avalanche.

She should stand her ground and not give him access to this car based on his history. If mutual respect can be restored in this marriage and the guy is rehabilitated and the woman gets some strength in her spinal column, then a car sharing arrangement can be reached.

[Auspicious]

-

Agens.

Is your friend christian?

If yes, tell her to PM me.

If not, she's on her own.

SHALLOM!
--

[Auspicious]

Wives and Husbands

22Wives, submit to your husbands as to the Lord. 23For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior. 24Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything.

25Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her 26to make her holy, cleansing[b] her by the washing with water through the word, 27and to present her to himself as a radiant church, without stain or wrinkle or any other blemish, but holy and blameless. 28In this same way, husbands ought to love their wives as their own bodies. He who loves his wife loves himself. 29After all, no one ever hated his own body, but he feeds and cares for it, just as Christ does the church� 30for we are members of his body. 31"For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh."[c] 32This is a profound mystery�but I am talking about Christ and the church. 33However, each one of you also must love his wife as he loves himself, and the wife must respect her husband.

10 Virtues of the Proverbs 31 Woman

Women are encouraged to serve God in every aspect of their lives.

1. Faith - A Virtuous Woman serves God with all of her heart, mind, and soul. She seeks His will for her life and follows His ways. (Proverbs 31: 26, Proverbs 31: 29 � 31, Matthew 22: 37, John 14: 15, Psalm 119: 15

2. Marriage � A Virtuous Woman respects her husband. She does him good all the days of her life. She is trustworthy and a helpmeet. (Proverbs 31: 11- 12, Proverbs 31: 23, Proverbs 31: 28, 1 Peter 3, Ephesians 5, Genesis2: 18)

3. Mothering - A Virtuous Woman teaches her children the ways of her Father in heaven. She nurtures her children with the love of Christ, disciplines them with care and wisdom, and trains them in the way they should go. (Proverbs 31: 28, Proverbs 31: 26, Proverbs 22: 6, Deuteronomy 6, Luke 18: 16)

4. Health � A Virtuous Woman cares for her body. She prepares healthy food for her family. (Proverbs 31: 14 � 15, Proverbs 31: 17, 1 Corinthians 6: 19, Genesis 1: 29, Daniel 1, Leviticus 11)

5. Service - A Virtuous Woman serves her husband, her family, her friends, and her neighbors with a gentle and loving spirit. She is charitable. (Proverbs 31: 12, Proverbs 31: 15, Proverbs 31: 20, 1 Corinthians 13: 13)

6. Finances - A Virtuous Woman seeks her husband�s approval before making purchases and spends money wisely. She is careful to purchase quality items which her family needs. (Proverbs 31: 14, Proverbs 31: 16, Proverbs 31: 18, 1 Timothy 6: 10, Ephesians 5: 23, Deuteronomy 14: 22, Numbers 18: 26)

7. Industry � A Virtuous Woman works willingly with her hands. She sings praises to God and does not grumble while completing her tasks. (Proverbs 31: 13, Proverbs 31: 16, Proverbs 31: 24, Proverbs 31: 31, Philippians 2: 14)

8. Homemaking � A Virtuous Woman is a homemaker. She creates an inviting atmosphere of warmth and love for her family and guests. She uses hospitality to minister to those around her. (Proverbs 31: 15, Proverbs 31: 20 � 22, Proverbs 31: 27, Titus 2: 5, 1 Peter 4: 9, Hebrews 13: 2)

9. Time - A Virtuous Woman uses her time wisely. She works diligently to complete her daily tasks. She does not spend time dwelling on those things that do not please the Lord. (Proverbs 31: 13, Proverbs 31: 19, Proverbs 31: 27, Ecclesiastes 3, Proverbs 16: 9, Philippians 4:8 )

10. Beauty � A Virtuous Woman is a woman of worth and beauty. She has the inner beauty that only comes from Christ. She uses her creativity and sense of style to create beauty in her life and the lives of her loved ones. (Proverbs 31: 10Proverbs 31: 21 � 22, Proverbs 31: 24 -25, Isaiah 61: 10, 1 Timothy 2: 9, 1 Peter 3: 1 � 6)


Ecclesiastes 4:9-10 (New International Version)

Two are better than one,
because they have a good return for their work:

If one falls down, his friend can help him up.
But pity the man who falls and has no one to help him up!


Proverbs 31:23

Her husband is respected at the city gate,
where he takes his seat among the elders of the land.


Proverbs 31:28

28 Her children arise and call her blessed;
her husband also, and he praises her:


Proverbs 12:4 (New International Version)

4 A wife of noble character is her husband's crown, but a disgraceful wife is like decay in his bones.

Proverbs 18:22 (King James Version)

Whoso findeth a wife findeth a good thing, and obtaineth favour of the LORD.


Proverbs 19:14(GOD�S WORD Translation)

14Home and wealth are inherited from fathers,
but a sensible wife comes from the Lord

Ah, there goes Vade Mecum again.

And immo best him at this game meen...

Nebuchadnezzar was the king of the Chaldean (also known as the Neo-Babylonian) Empire (see Ancient Empires - Babylon). He was born about 630 B.C., and died around 562 B.C. at age 68. He was the most powerful monarch of his dynasty, and is best known for the magnificence of his capital, Babylon (the photo below shows a restored section of the city's Ishtar (pronounced "easter") Gate, his vast military conquests, and his role in Bible History and Prophecy. Perhaps surprisingly, his own words are directly recorded in The Bible (Daniel 4:4-18).

Lions On The Ishtar Gate Nebuchadnezzar was the oldest son of Nabopolassar, the founder of the Chaldean Empire. After serving as commander of the army, Nebuchadnezzar became king upon his father's death in August of 605 B.C. By marrying the daughter of Cyaxares, he united the Median and Babylonian dynasties. He wasn't just a warlord, he was also skilled in politics.

During Nebuchadnezzar's time, Babylon was the largest city of the world. It has been estimated to have covered over 2,500 acres / 1,000 hectares, with the Euphrates River flowing through it. The name of the city came to symbolize the entire empire.

Nebuchadnezzar is best known to students of the Bible for his defeat of the southern kingdom of Judah (the northern kingdom of Israel was by then long gone, having been conquered and deported over a century earlier by the Assyrians - see Ancient Empires - Assyria). By 586 B.C., the Babylonian forces conquered the land, devastated Jerusalem, looted and burned the original Temple that had been built by Solomon (see Temples and Temple Mount Treasures), and took the people away into what became known as the "Babylonian Exile." (2 Kings 25:1-17).

As powerful as Nebuchadnezzar was, he did not conquer the people of Judah of himself. God didn't just allow it to happen, He actually brought it about. (2 Chronicles 36:15-20). The people had become extremely corrupt and idolatrous. They ignored all of the Prophets that God had sent to warn them (2 Chronicles 36:15-16), and they refused to repent. They trusted in themselves, in the city of Jerusalem, even in the physical Temple, rather than in The Lord Himself. So, God, through Nebuchadnezzar, destroyed it all in order to make them realize, in no uncertain terms, that they had turned their backs on Him (see Why Babylon?).

Among the Jews who were deported from Judah to Babylon was a certain young man known as Daniel. From him, and the Bible book that carries his name, we get some of the most sensational prophecies for our time now. See Daniel's Statue

Fact Finder: Were the prophecies given to Daniel for his time, or the end-time?
Daniel 12:8-9

[Oluwato]

@oluwato
i dunno if it's me o, but if my wife(when i get one...hopefully soon...lol) calls a pastor to talk to me, that's the surest sign that she wont get what she wants, i dont buy all the pastor butting his head into my biz.

i'm very possesive of my faith and stuff like that so when anyone tries to influence/manipulate me and he/she even looks in the direction of my faith that's the surest sign that the person'll carry last!

The condition to call pastor is if the couple are Christians. Christians (at least mature ones) ALLOW their pastor to mediate if they have domestic problems. Non-Christians live by a different rule.

[Auspicious]

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Hi, Folks!

1. If you don't call your Pastor to help mediate in your marital problems, you're NOT a christian.

2. You are an immature christian if you do not allow your pastor to mediate in your marital problems.

SHALLOM!

[agensheku]

First the wifey bought a Nissan and hubby commandeered it, cruise it around while wifey picked up the repair bills. Now wifey bought a Honda probably out of frustration and necessity from hubby�s monopoly of the only car for the family and he now wants the Honda.

Ordinarily I would say if he wants to cruise in a Honda, let him get himself one. If he likes let him sulk from now till thy kingdom come, the wife should stand her ground and keep the Honda. Beggers can�t be chosers lol.

But again this is marriage we're talking about here. A union in which two people are suppose to come together to become one in my view. Yours becomes mine and vice versa or ours. The woman seem to me to see her marriage in that light, whereas the hubby does not and seem to be taking advantage of the woman's commitment to their marriage.

If the above is not the case, I would suggest that the woman gets guarantee that the man will pick up the loan repayment and repair bills for the Honda, then she could give him the Honda. As for the Nissan, she can sell or use it as part exchange for another Honda for herself. Both of them owning same type of Honda each should resolve the "better car" palava which seem to the the issue here.

If it is the case that she is financially better off than hubby and he can't take ownership of the loan repayment, let her continue with the loan repayment arrangement if she can afford to, but at the least get the hubby to foot the repair bills for his own Honda.

Btw is there any reason why the man cannot buy his own car agens? What is his olopa's rank? Does he not makes enough from the toll they collect from motorist to share to be able to get himself a car?.

I am also wondering why the wife would confide her marital woes to you and seek your advice. You didn�t say you�re family friends with them and being neighbours does not necessarily translate into family friendship or is that the case here? Since she has come to you with this problem and you've already promised to advice her, you might as well keep your promise. I would be very careful if I were you, that the hubby does not accuse you of undermining his home/marriage or having affairs with his wife.

Agens I am curious to know what is your own take on this as a man? Forget the input of others here, on your own and going by your years of experience, what would you have adviced her.

I am like a father-figure to the couple.the cop rose thru the ranks and is in the habit of giving the wife a meagre house-keeping allowance in "shandy"notes everytime.so,she augments the bills.if i say too much now,i will influence the thread negatively.a loving woman would do anything to please her hubby.but love could get other meanings when you hear that your hubby even carries "opekes"in the car you sweated to buy.Ooops,havent i said too much already?(and soup is not supposed to shake in the belly of agbalagbi...elder!)if i had my way,she should sell the two cars,buy A grade shares with her cash and live her life in peace.but how would cop explain to his friends that he" has no car"again?the home front go hot sam sam.thats why two good heads are better than one in advising the nurse.

[valteena]

I am like a father-figure to the couple.the cop rose thru the ranks and is in the habit of giving the wife a meagre house-keeping allowance in "shandy"notes everytime.so,she augments the bills.if i say too much now,i will influence the thread negatively.a loving woman would do anything to please her hubby.but love could get other meanings when you hear that your hubby even carries "opekes"in the car you sweated to buy.Ooops,havent i said too much already?(and soup is not supposed to shake in the belly of agbalagbi...elder!)if i had my way,she should sell the two cars,buy A grade shares with her cash and live her life in peace.but how would cop explain to his friends that he" has no car"again?the home front go hot sam sam.thats why two good heads are better than one in advising the nurse.

Typical!!. You just confirmed what I thought would be the case but did not want to presume lol. That the man could even be using the car to boost his philandering ways. And that is why I initially said that she should stand her ground and not give him the Honda if that be the case.

[jumpandpass]

She should sell off both cars, secretly buy a car in conjunction with a female friend without a job (not a close one), park the car at that friend's house and pay the friend a modest amount to be her 'driver'. She can claim she hires the car from the friend. Case SOLVED!!! You can thank me later.

[Soul Sista]

Agens:

What exactly could Mr. X do to her if she refuses to give up the Honda? Do you mind telling us? It will help us to come up with some realistic options that she can consider. Further, we know that his record on house keeping allowance is not good. But, for example, does he pay the rent? How about school fees?

Also, knowing the kind of husband she has (and she intends to keep), why did she buy a better car? If you want to stay married to such a person, you need to know how to do it.

Soul Sista a/k/a Soul Sizzling

[Spicey]

I would love to stand with HP on this issue, but so far it appears the lady has the option of completing the payment of the honda while she manages the nissan for the sake of peace.

Then again, if the honda issue pain am well well, she should keep off the honda car maintainance bill. The nissan should not be "over" maintained because chances are that he will come back for it (Nissan) when the chifs are down with the honda.

The idea of selling both cars is not in the interest of the family as it is obvious that will threaten their togetherness and that is far from the woman's wish.

[MsWoman]

Na wah oh! Meanwhile, I know a Naija man who bought a car much much better for his wife than he drives, and when she "forces" him to drive it, he can't wait to hand it back to her. There are men and there are men!

As GO of MFM will say, you will tailor your Christianity according to your environment.....No, don't get me wrong.....I am not bringing Christianity into it. What I am saying is that being that you get that kain husband, you sef nor go bring Honda to the house after he don kidnap the Nissan. On the contrary, you either don't bring at all, or you bring the one that "his eyes will push him" to be seen driving in. When nor be say there are no 1993 Peugeot 504's on the roads of Naija! Na dat wan gan gan wey MsWoman go no wo si (point at) at the used car lot! I beg I don't send! Who get time for someone wey nor get shame?

I will NEVER get my pastor involved in my marital affairs. I'd sooner pay a shrink/counselor first! Nor be me dem go come take preach!

[Auspicious]

Na wah oh! Meanwhile, I know a Naija man who bought a car much much better for his wife than he drives, and when she "forces" him to drive it, he can't wait to hand it back to her. There are men and there are men!

Ohmegawd that reminds me of someone..*thinking*

Oh wait I think I remember who: ME!
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[valteena]

Na wah oh! Meanwhile, I know a Naija man who bought a car much much better for his wife than he drives, and when she "forces" him to drive it, he can't wait to hand it back to her. There are men and there are men!

As GO of MFM will say, you will tailor your Christianity according to your environment.....No, don't get me wrong.....I am not bringing Christianity into it. What I am saying is that being that you get that kain husband, you sef nor go bring Honda to the house after he don kidnap the Nissan. On the contrary, you either don't bring at all, or you bring the one that "his eyes will push him" to be seen driving in. When nor be say there are no 1993 Peugeot 504's on the roads of Naija! Na dat wan gan gan wey MsWoman go no wo si (point at) at the used car lot! I beg I don't send! Who get time for someone wey nor get shame?


I will NEVER get my pastor involved in my marital affairs. I'd sooner pay a shrink/counselor first! Nor be me dem go come take preach!

Mswoman, to my mind there is something not quite right about their marriage set up already. As married couples, I would have thought that the woman would have consulted with the man before buying the new car and in the process would have found out that the man would want to own the car for himself. In which case she should have come to some sort of agreement on who keeps which car. And if she is the one meant to keep the Honda and the hubby is doing an about turn, then she should stick to her guns and keep the car of her choice.

As for why didn't the woman buy more rickety car, I don't think there is any reason why she shouldn't buy a Honda if that is what her heart desire just because of the way the husband is. Selfish and irresponsible. Its like saying that she should not eat good food or wear nice clothes or live in a comfortable environment that she deserves and can afford because her husband is the way he is. She seem to work hard for the money and it is only fair that she enjoys the fruit of her labour.

After all my sister you only live once, and its only what you've eaten or enjoyed while alive that is yours to take along. Whatever is left is for other and sometimes those who don't appreciate how hard you've worked for it to enjoy.

[Iye]

I think the person with problem here is the woman.

She�s one of those who marry any man just to be mrs and think she can improve him with time.

By buying the new car, she�s trying to improve the family status but forgetting that she�s married to a man who does not share her vision.

Truth is, the earlier she counts are losses and move on with her life the better, if not the guy will ruin her physically, financially and mentally and still leave her in the end.

Next move of the guy would be to accuse her of sleeping around to buy car...

[MsWoman]

@Valtee:

I did think about it myself that na oran (crime) to buy car of one's choice after working hard and being able to afford it?? And it is a shame that this woman should not be able to enjoy her hard earned money! But like I said, at this point, the woman needs to pick her battles. If she tells herself that "woh (look), I am better off on my own with my nice Honda and my children with no husband," that's one choice. If she wants/prefers to stay married to a husband who go dey ranju/feju (eye) and dominate cars that she uses her hard-earned money to buy, then she has to face the music. She will in this case, have no choice but to be ready to give the car to the husband. The last choice is to yari (refuse) to give him the car and face the consequences when the husband starts making the house "hot" for her.

@Auspi:

You were exactly on my mind when I wrote that! Aren't you just so cute?!

[Auspicious]

..Next move of the guy would be to accuse her of sleeping around to buy car...

LOL!

Ah done heard of men who like to 'wound' their women with such.

Still, I don't know if telling her to quit is the solution to her problems.

I think it's better to tell her to "get a back-bone and act smart, dammit!"

Quitting marriage is NOT a solution to marital problems, or we'd all be quitters already.
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[Auspicious]

@Auspi:

You were exactly on my mind when I wrote that! Aren't you just so cute?!

Abieeee, MsWoman!

You know how it is now:

Today Auspy na Teddy Bear

Tommorow, na Winnie the Pooh.

Day after, na Dauda the Sexy Guy!

[MsWoman]

The fourth option is when the husband starts making the house hot, she should turn around and show him pepper! As in, make the house "hotter" for even him. (This would mean developing backbone and acting smart per Auspi)!

[Auspicious]

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Why di Gyal nor tell di Hubby make eim lie-down collect serious bilala for nyansh?

Or, in the alternative, make eim kele di bobo well-well make am happy like eim chop Micky Dee Happy Meal.

[Vade Mecum]

What does the virtuous woman have to do with this palava, Vade Mecum?

This promises to be an interesting one.

Soul Sista a/k/a Soul Sizzling

Why do we prefer to shun Christian principles, when we believe, that our stand point on an issue will not be advanced by applicable Biblical standards.

2 Timothy 3:16-17 (New International Version)

16All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, 17so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.

Ephesians 5:22 Wives, submit to your husbands as to the Lord.

Proverb 31: 11 "Her husband has full confidence in her and lacks nothing of value.

Proverb 31: 28: Her children arise and call her blessed; her husband also, and he praises her:

The combined application of the Bible verses referred to above, dictates that a virtuous wife must strive to win the praise and confidence of her husband.

A virtuous wife must strive to be submissive and generally perceived as submissive to her husband.

In the present scenario, we do not have all the facts. However, a wise woman will not allow attachment to a car to start a chain of reactions that could eventually break up her home.

True, we do not have the full facts regarding the couple in this palaver, however, there is a reason or reasons, why the husband is feeling justified to have unfettered access to the use of the car. ARGUENDO, There are probably investments in the woman's life by the husband. Did he help finance her college education ? Is he responsible for the payment of 90% of the household bills ? etc etc

I know a guy, who rides a simple car, and the wife drives his Hummer. I know a woman who drives a very simple car, yet, she bought a very expensive SUV for her dear husband. She pays about 75 % of the household bills. The husband is currently striving hard to find his feet, as he only just relocated to the United states, not too long ago. she treats him like a King. She is extremely submissive to him, and in return, he is as loyal, faithful, loving and caring as can be.

They've been married for over 20 years, and she was also always loyal and submissive, even back in Nigeria; so I heard.

The wife's submissiveness is based on her Christian faith.

The fact of being husband and wife, a situation, which makes both parties one flesh; means the spouses, must learn to sacrifice for one another. Selflessness and sacrifice basd on faith, constitutes the twin engines that fires a successful marriage.

Dear Soul Sister, we must avoid selectively applying the word of God to our affairs. We must refrain from the narrow minded application of the scriptures to our affairs, only when it's favourable to our viewpoint on issues. Indeed the Bible's standard regarding the virtuous woman, is very much applicable to the present palaver.

Cheers and God bless.

[Auspicious]

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I'm more familiar with christianity than any other faith.

In other words, I identify with the faith more than any other.

But each time I read Vade Mecum proselytizing around here,

I just feel like I want nothing to do with the faith alltogether.

I wonder why..
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[Vade Mecum]

Purple;462393

Nonsense. She should not hand over her car to her husband. HP makes a lot of good points in her resopnse. This man is more of a leech than a husband. A husband provides and protects. This man seems to exploit and abuse.

leech (noun)
1. any bloodsucking or carnivorous aquatic or terrestrial worm of the class Hirudinea, certain freshwater species of which were formerly much used in medicine for bloodletting.

2. a person who clings to another for personal gain, esp. without giving anything in return, and usually with the implication or effect of exhausting the other's resources; parasite.

3. Archaic . an instrument used for drawing blood.
�verb (used with object)

This man is more of a leech than a husband.

Dear Purple,

Don't you think that your reaction or response to this palaver, is way out of proportion. This is a family issue between parties to a marriage. The man must be happpy and relieved that at least, his dear wife is not calling him a leech. Check out the meaning of leech, above.

A husband provides and protects. This man seems to exploit and abuse

I dear say, that you Purple, lack enough information on these persons, who are parties to a marriage, to allow you the latitude to use such harsh terms on the husband.

Do you Purple, know how deep and sacrificial that the husband has probably invested in his family in general and in his wife in particular ?

Do you purple, know whether the husband spent way beyond his pay grade, to rescue the wife's dad, mum or both from the fatal effect of some serious medical conditions ?

Do you know what percentage of the household bills of this family, the husband settles monthly ?

Do you know whether the husband is in some serious financial quagmire because of some financial rescue efforts, he engaged in to rescue the wife or the wife's family member(s) ? etc etc

I guess you know too little about this family to launch out on a verbal tirade on the husband, the way you did.

Marriage requires a more sober, reflective and solemn temperament

Proverbs 21:9 (New International Version)

9 Better to live on a corner of the roof than share a house with a quarrelsome wife.

Marriage is for men and not for boys. If this guy lacks maturity and the ability to provide, maybe he should not have gotten married in the first place. Where is his pride and dignity? How dare him intimidate his wife and force her to surrender the car to him. He is so shameless that he cannot even pay repair bills for the first car and lets his long suffering wife pick up the tab. What a wimp!

Ecclesiastes 4:9-10 (New International Version)

9 Two are better than one,
because they have a good return for their work:

10 If one falls down,
his friend can help him up.
But pity the man who falls
and has no one to help him up!

Dear Purple,

I wonder how you could denounce and trounce the husband so roughly and disrespectfully, when you obviously do not have the husband's perspective on this issue.

The much you have said so far is enough to break up a marriage, especially a marriage where both spouses have the easily inflamable temperament, that you have so far displayed on this thread.

Evidently, if the husband was a mere boy, immature, lacks pride, lacks dignity and shamelessly unable to provide for his family, as you have so off handedly dismissed him; I doubt whether his dear wife, would have married him, in the first place, out of all the millions of men out there.

I pray that no lady enters a marriage with the intolerant, abusive and lightening anger temperament and the me, me and me mind set, that you have liberally poured forth, so far, on this thread. Abeg, marriage na love, gentility, selflessness, jejelee and us, we, ours.

With all your verbal tsunami so far on this thread, what would you do, if your husband or prospective husband is suddenly fired from his job ?

VM, the Scriptures command that if a man does not work, he should not eat. We are also told that a man that does not provide (transportation included, yes ke) for his own household is worse than an infidel. An oyinbo man invented the automobile and placed his dear wife in it to protect her dainty feet from the trials of walking. Naija man who did not invent nada is now strong arming his wife to ride 'tokunbo' o ma se o What a shame!

Your fixation on material wealth as a separate property of the wife in contradistinction to the family community of the husband, wife and children, reminds me of the Words of Jesus Christ in the Holy Bible

Matthew 19:24 (New International Version)

24Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God."

Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a wife fixated on her separate property to remain in a marriage for long

Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a girl who cannot tolerate submissiveness to a man, to get a husband

Cheers and God bless

[HolyPagan]

A virtuous wife must strive to be submissive and generally perceived as submissive to her husband.

In the present scenario, we do not have all the facts. However, a wise woman will not allow attachment to a car to start a chain of reactions that could eventually break up her home.

Hehehe yeah!! so long as the wife has hubby's footprints on her forehead, I bet you will praise her to the high heavens.

Thank God...If I were married to a man with this evil kind of 'submissive wife is best ' mindset, he would have been buried a long time ago....I would have made damn sure of that, walahi.
Submissive indeed....how about I submit the blood sucking leech to his maker pretty damn quick.

God did not put anybody on earth to be long suffering because, some people will not be happy unless those closest and nearest to them, have their footprints on their forehead.

[Vade Mecum]

Hehehe yeah!! so long as the wife has hubby's footprints on her forehead, I bet you will praise her to the high heavens.

Thank God...If I were married to a man with this evil kind of 'submissive wife is best ' mindset, he would have been buried a long time ago....I would have made damn sure of that, walahi.
Submissive indeed....how about I submit the blood sucking leech to his maker pretty damn quick.

God did not put anybody on earth to be long suffering because, some people will not be happy unless those closest and nearest to them, have their footprints on their forehead.

Marriage is a union of equal partners

However, the Word of God made clear that the man is the head of the equal partnership

The wife must be submissive.

Then again, the man must treat his wife with love, respect and deep affection

The streets are full of women who have the mentality, you are trying so hard to preach on this thread

Truth is, wives who stubbornly reject submissiveness to their husbands, do not stay married for long; those same women finally become submissive to pimps and other shady sex industry characters

Majority of single ladies attempting to rudely overwhelm heaven with prayers and fasting for husbands, are usually women, who have refused to be submissive to the men, that have come their way, through the infinite mercy of God.

Your mindset reminds me of the story in the Bible, of Naaman the leprous Syrian army general, who was too proud to accept the cure for his sickness.

2 Kings 5:1-19 (New International Version)

2 Kings 5
Naaman Healed of Leprosy
1 Now Naaman was commander of the army of the king of Aram. He was a great man in the sight of his master and highly regarded, because through him the LORD had given victory to Aram. He was a valiant soldier, but he had leprosy. [a]

2 Now bands from Aram had gone out and had taken captive a young girl from Israel, and she served Naaman's wife. 3 She said to her mistress, "If only my master would see the prophet who is in Samaria! He would cure him of his leprosy."

4 Naaman went to his master and told him what the girl from Israel had said. 5 "By all means, go," the king of Aram replied. "I will send a letter to the king of Israel." So Naaman left, taking with him ten talents [b] of silver, six thousand shekels [c] of gold and ten sets of clothing. 6 The letter that he took to the king of Israel read: "With this letter I am sending my servant Naaman to you so that you may cure him of his leprosy."

7 As soon as the king of Israel read the letter, he tore his robes and said, "Am I God? Can I kill and bring back to life? Why does this fellow send someone to me to be cured of his leprosy? See how he is trying to pick a quarrel with me!"

8 When Elisha the man of God heard that the king of Israel had torn his robes, he sent him this message: "Why have you torn your robes? Have the man come to me and he will know that there is a prophet in Israel." 9 So Naaman went with his horses and chariots and stopped at the door of Elisha's house. 10 Elisha sent a messenger to say to him, "Go, wash yourself seven times in the Jordan, and your flesh will be restored and you will be cleansed."

11 But Naaman went away angry and said, "I thought that he would surely come out to me and stand and call on the name of the LORD his God, wave his hand over the spot and cure me of my leprosy. 12 Are not Abana and Pharpar, the rivers of Damascus, better than any of the waters of Israel? Couldn't I wash in them and be cleansed?" So he turned and went off in a rage.

13 Naaman's servants went to him and said, "My father, if the prophet had told you to do some great thing, would you not have done it? How much more, then, when he tells you, 'Wash and be cleansed'!" 14 So he went down and dipped himself in the Jordan seven times, as the man of God had told him, and his flesh was restored and became clean like that of a young boy.

15 Then Naaman and all his attendants went back to the man of God. He stood before him and said, "Now I know that there is no God in all the world except in Israel. Please accept now a gift from your servant."

16 The prophet answered, "As surely as the LORD lives, whom I serve, I will not accept a thing." And even though Naaman urged him, he refused.

17 "If you will not," said Naaman, "please let me, your servant, be given as much earth as a pair of mules can carry, for your servant will never again make burnt offerings and sacrifices to any other god but the LORD. 18 But may the LORD forgive your servant for this one thing: When my master enters the temple of Rimmon to bow down and he is leaning on my arm and I bow there also�when I bow down in the temple of Rimmon, may the LORD forgive your servant for this."

19 "Go in peace," Elisha said.
After Naaman had traveled some distance,

Cheers and God bless

[HolyPagan]

Marriage is a union of equal partners

However, the Word of God made clear that the man is the head of the equal partnership

The wife must be submissive, then again the man treat the wife with love, respect and deep affection

The streets are full of women who have the mentality, you are trying so hard to preach on this thread

Truth is, wives who refuse to be submissive to their husbands, do not stay married for long

Majority of single ladies attempting to rudely overwhelm heaven with prayers and fasting for husbands, are usually women, who have refused to be submissive to the men, that have come their way, through the infinite mercy of God.

Your mindset remain me of the story in the Bible, of that Syrian army general, who was too proud to accept the cure for his sickness

Any union that will only work because one party is exploiting, dominating, intimidating, the other is not fit for purpose and should be confined to the bog where it rightfully belongs.

BTW you are mistaking a symptom for a cure...In Western Europe, North America, Australasia where women are equal and contributing members of society...you dont have this 'fasting for husband' nonsense.
Its only in Africa and such places where a husband is a 'meal ticket'.... 'roof over their heads'.....'Children's school fees gets paid'.... all rolled into one, due in large part to generations of misogynistic cultural practices, that women are praying for husbands.
Its not because of the 'almighty husband' but the utilitarian value that having one impacts...make no mistake about that.

[Vade Mecum]

@vade mecum
i say this respectfully...

scripture is living and active, there's nothing living and active in what you posted, you just downloaded scriptures there, it seemed as if you were moralizing, what OP was asking for was advice, we all know what the bible says concerning submission, it's the application that matters!

Dear Netotse,

With the greatest respect,

It is too bad that exhibited a gross lack of experience, maturity, and knowledge of real life issues to comprehend my post.

As you must have realised by now, this topic is a very sensitive one.

There are times, we must allow the Word of God to speak directly, to the readers, devoid of any analysis and or commentary.

There are times too, when we should analyse and comment.

Then again, we must know the proper time and the proper season to write, speak or be quiet.

My advise: Print the post and keep it, until you attain the proper age, then you will re-read the post and understand

Please no offense intended.

Cheers and God bless