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  1. Dec 29, 2011 ,  06:27 AM #41
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    Quote Originally Posted by N.A.R. View Post
    I was tempted to allow all of you to enjoy your standpoint article till I watched that clip again from HassanK. It appears HassanK is apparently critical of GEJ, but posting that video shows how Yar'Adua completely mismanaged the Boko Haram situation. [/B]
    You all missed the reason I posted the video. I did so, to show that violence begets violence and injustice begets injustice. The Police murdered in cold blood a lot of innocent people, no doubt including some Southerners, under the guise of dealing with Boko Haram. These people have relatives and some of them have now joined the group out of frustration and the belief that the Nigerian State will not do anything about bringing to book those who murdered their loved ones. Of course, there are those who are in the group as purely sponsored agents of those who wanted power to remain in the North. This last group, I believe GEJ is aware who their paymasters are. All he has to do is deal with the so-called untouchables.

    Then must follow proper social and political justice, which in summary must encapsulate education [not security], employment, power, housing, etc. To cap it all, a Sovereign National Conference must be convened to discuss whether the constituent part of Nigeria still intends to stay together and if so on what terms, etc.

    GEJ supporters, your man says we must live with the burden of insecurity yet he is the Chief Security Officer of this country! What are you feeding the man with? Other than showing us newspaper reports of the various arrests by the Police and Security agents, what concrete actions [other than smiling on the pages of newspapers whilst the country suffers from the menaces of BH, Armed Robberies and Kidnapping] has GEJ taken to deal with the root causes of Boko Haram?

    NAR, assuming but without conceding that Yar'Adua mismanaged the Boko Haram situation, what is GEJ doing to manage it? Is Yar'Adua the reason for the upsurge in BH's activities since then? Don't you believe that the group has sponsors, mainly within the PDP, with their own agenda; is Yar'Adua to blame too that GEJ is not man enough to deal with those people? Common!

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    Quote Originally Posted by big-k View Post
    Does someone saying that "the issue of bombing is one of the burdens we must live with." sound like a can-do president?

    When Sharia was spreading a few years back, Obasanjo was asked to act decisively, he and his supporters argued that Sharia will soon fizzle out. It's fizzling alright...

    Now, Jonathan is being asked to deal decisively with Boko Haram threat, some are putting forward the same small-minded "he's our man" arguments. The fact is this folks, GEJ has full Presidential Powers and he has absolutely no excuses. If he cannot act, it's time to quit - simple.

    Where's that cartoon again...

    Your cartoon refers, Big-k. In both the circus and the zoos, usually the one who raises the lion cub or tiger cub always end up as its dinner! Any zoologist in the House to say why?

    Eh, I have even forgotten that GEJ himself is a zoologist. He should beware of the BH werewolf cub o!

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    I wish for the sake of experiment, that loss of human lives would not be involved and one morning, we all wake up to behold GEJ announcing his resignation based on Boko Haram entreaties and based on other violent acts since after the election that saw GEJ to power. What will happen after that resignation would dwarf Boko Haram. People like Big K can be excused for failing to see where their resignation call is headed.
    Buhari knows this, hence, his mild acceptance of court verdict; hence, his offering a way out and looking ahead. Buhari & co are aware that the core north don't have it and is ready to nagotiate; that violence has not tamed GEJ.
    But not so quick because the call to calm nerves and re-touch constitution is not based on any patroitic zeal from Gen. Buhari but rather made by a man who lately has seen that the violent Option B remains roforofo.
    Now that Buhari has made his Option C known, it is up to GEJ to be Statesman-like, to forgive but not forget {because violence like all things never lacked where it has always been}.
    GEJ has the 4 Aces, right from onset, up to this shining hour.

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  4. Dec 29, 2011 ,  01:07 PM #44
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    Quote Originally Posted by HassanK View Post
    Is GEJ not aware that Boko Haram is being sponsored by members of his own political party? Didn't the same PDP bigwigs threatened to make Nigeria ungovernable should the PDP jettison zoning? Did he think they were bluffing back then? So the solution is inaction and huffing and puffing about taking action against dissidents in Guinea-Bissau; even that we all know is Reuben Abati writing! If GEJ doesn't know what to do perhaps he should take a cue from this:

    "The country now is in an emergency situation. Law and order can break down at any time. Those in charge of the country should be warned that promises and sweet words are no substitute for practical action. To avert the looming chaos in the New Year, immediate steps should be taken to drastically reduce the cost of governance in the three tiers of government. Salaries and especially allowances should be drastically reduced; security votes should be abolished - not increased as the 2012 Budget has done. Votes for the Armed forces, Police and Security Services should be transparent and accountable; foreign travel and estacodes should be stopped for at least six months other than for the Presidency, Ministry of Foreign Affairs and medical emergencies. Government House expenses in all the states should be drastically reduced, foreign travel suspended for a while. The National Assembly should give a lead in reducing their allowances substantially and stopping their foreign travels. These savings should be applied to education, infrastructure and agriculture with emphasis on youth employment through meaningful and practical emergency programmes. The public will see through any cosmetic or token gestures and will not tolerate a continuation of status quo. Corruption and plunder are the root causes of unemployment, insecurity, violence and unrest."
    General Muhammadu Buhari, GCFR
    Some of the politicians are behind Boko Haram. They manipulate the medias to make us believe it is a religious or ethnic war to mislead us into the wrong direction. What are often deemed as credible news sources can often knowingly or unknowingly be pushing political agendas and propaganda. The more Nigerians are divided the more politicians have control over the mind of Nigerians. If we can realise this fact then everything will backfire on the politicians who are behind Boko Haram.

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  5. Dec 29, 2011 ,  04:20 PM #45
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    This is the sort of reaction this editorial (and advise from true friends) should create- Get GEJ to sit up, and not listen to those who will tell him its not his problem to fix

    FG to restructure security apparatus - Jonathan
    http://234next.com/csp/cms/sites/Nex...pparatus_-.csp
    President Goodluck Jonathan says the Federal Government is working on restructuring the nation's security apparatus to meet current challenges.

    Jonathan gave the assurance when the leadership of the Christian Association of Nigeria (CAN) visited him in Abuja on Wednesday over the security situation in the country.

    The President said the government was taking the issue of Boko Haram, an Islamic sect, very seriously to end the spate of attacks.

    Jonathan solicited the cooperation of Nigerians, particularly in fishing out those behind the dastardly acts and their sponsors.

    ``I encourage Nigerians to work with government because, collectively, when we work together, we will get over it.

    ``The terrorists are human beings, they are not spirits. They live with us, they dine with us so people know them.

    ``As long as Nigerians are committed to exposing them, we will get over this ugly situation.

    ``At the security level, we are doing our best. We will restructure, we will re-adjust and make sure that we get a team that will meet up with this challenge that we are facing today,'' the President said.

    The President also pleaded with religious leaders, both Muslims and Christians, to work together to fight terrorism.

    He appealed to political leaders not to play politics with the issue of terrorism, in particular the Boko Haram sect.

    ``The issue of Boko Haram started a long time ago; it started like a small cancerous lump which was not treated.

    ``If at the beginning, appropriate response has been given to it, then, probably it would not have developed to this level.

    ``I assure you that we know the challenges we are facing, government must protect the life and property of its citizens, that is the primary responsibility of government and we must do just that.

    ``I assure you that government is taking it seriously. Some arrests have been made, investigation is being done and God willing, most of the perpetrators will be brought to book,'' he said.

    Earlier, the delegation, led by CAN president, Pastor Ayo Oritsejafor, condemned the terrorist attacks on Christmas day at Madalla in Niger State, Jos and Damaturu.

    Oritsejafor, who read a prepared speech, described the attacks as a declaration of Jihad on Christians.

    He said members of the association were ``deeply sorrowed'' over the deteriorating state of insecurity in the country, and called on the government to take decisive steps to confront it.

    ``Having reviewed the pattern, trend and frequency with which these terror crimes occur, it fits into the profile of Islamic Jihad over the years on the Christian community,'' he said.

    According to him, CAN finds the responses of the Supreme Council for Islamic Affairs and other Islamic bodies on the matter to be unacceptable.

    Oritsejafor said that Christians would retaliate if the spate of attacks continued unabated.

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    So, what next if Mr. Jonathan's govt. resigns? This 'Standpoint' editorial na wah o.

    Or, was this call for resignation for show?

    Look, people, Jonathan is working; I just read a post that's promising on that count. Jonathan is doing exactly as he should, and Boko Haram are helping him.

    Two things:

    1) Jonathan should talk to Boko Haram'
    2) Boko Haram should refuse the gesture for dialogue

    And, oh, third: Mrs. Okonjo-Iweala should hike the price of fuel.

    Brighter days are coming.

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  7. Dec 29, 2011 ,  07:01 PM #47
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    @HassanK:
    [Who is the Commander-in-Chief of the Armed forces, GEJ or the hawk?]

    Thank you my broda for asking them this million Naira question. Unfortunately, these folks don't know that the buck stops with the Commander-in-Chief.
    12 years of PDP rule has taken Nigeria back to the Stone Age. Bad followership produces bad leadership. What you get is what you got, ultimately what you ask for. You ain't seen nothing yet!
    Common sense dictates that if something is not working for you, you must change it. It is very simple for elementary school kids to understand, but some "educated" dudes here just can't comprehend that simple logic.
    They have docilized the country with their inability to differentiate right from wrong and now they a Mohamed Bouazizi to liberate them.

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    The powerful Aroma of SWEET CRUDE. See how it can deviate the attention of people of intellect from the crux of the matter.

    They have gathered once again for another session of gnashing of teeth and finger pointing.....Beating about the bush, instead of telling themselves the truth which is:
    The 1914 Amalgamation of the north and south of Nigeria has never worked'.. They ought to have tasked themselves on: how to separate water from oil. Instead they are.....

    Oya, President Jonathan, wake up, get set with your Sec.Operatives, shoot down Boko Haram, by the time you finish, help the rest of the world, wipe off the Taliban, Lashker el Taiba, and perhaps, al Qaeda..
    When you win, we shall hail you this way: Jonathan. Na you Biko kwa,. After You, Na George Bush.

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  9. Dec 29, 2011 ,  08:19 PM #49
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    Quote Originally Posted by big-k View Post
    This is the sort of reaction this editorial (and advise from true friends) should create- Get GEJ to sit up, and not listen to those who will tell him its not his problem to fix
    Let us hope that it's not just another show of bravado to placate CAN members. There is no history of decisiveness in GEJ's favour and the antecedents of his political party makes his avowals looks more like hot air. There's a report in the Vanguard that Archbishop Anthony Olubunmi Okogie says GEJ knows those behind Boko Haram and is failing to bring them to book. The Archbishop basically labelled GEJ's administration as confused in all its ramifications and inept - see http://www.vanguardngr.com/2011/12/j...nfused-okogie/

    In addition, in PDP and the future of Nigerian politics, by Reuben Abati, the latter proclaims:
    "With the way the PDP runs its affairs, should we legitimately expect its members to run good government?"
    - see
    http://www.nigerianmuse.com/20080307...-reuben-abati/

    Should we legitimately expect anything decisive or, as Reuben Abati posited, good governance from GEJ who is a member of the PDP?

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  10. Dec 30, 2011 ,  03:34 AM #50
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    Quote Originally Posted by HassanK View Post
    You all missed the reason I posted the video. I did so, to show that violence begets violence and injustice begets injustice. The Police murdered in cold blood a lot of innocent people, no doubt including some Southerners, under the guise of dealing with Boko Haram. These people have relatives and some of them have now joined the group out of frustration and the belief that the Nigerian State will not do anything about bringing to book those who murdered their loved ones.
    No I know you did not post the clip in support of GEJ. But you are correct, violence begat violence. So the question to be asked is this. What that order given and resulting action the best way to have handled the situation?

    Of course, there are those who are in the group as purely sponsored agents of those who wanted power to remain in the North. This last group, I believe GEJ is aware who their paymasters are. All he has to do is deal with the so-called untouchables.
    Hello, sir, they are "untouchables" for a reason... And for those reasons you need to deal with them carefully... and intelligently and at the end of the day decisively. Make a mistake and it could be very costly.

    Then must follow proper social and political justice, which in summary must encapsulate education [not security], employment, power, housing, etc.
    I would argue this is currently not possible in the North by the FG mainly due to Sharia Law. For example so what kind of education? Islamic or Western or both...? Is that not what they already had before choosing Sharia...?

    GEJ supporters, your man says we must live with the burden of insecurity yet he is the Chief Security Officer of this country! What are you feeding the man with? Other than showing us newspaper reports of the various arrests by the Police and Security agents, what concrete actions [other than smiling on the pages of newspapers whilst the country suffers from the menaces of BH, Armed Robberies and Kidnapping] has GEJ taken to deal with the root causes of Boko Haram?
    Okay, GUILTY as charged, now as a typical Nigerian let me answer your question with my question... So precisely what should GEJ be doing now? I assume you know I am not expecting an answer like: be president and deal with the situation...

    NAR, assuming but without conceding that Yar'Adua mismanaged the Boko Haram situation, what is GEJ doing to manage it?
    Well I actually gave you an answer already but of course that did not please you hence I want to get the answer from you.

    Is Yar'Adua the reason for the upsurge in BH's activities since then?
    Haba Oga, you are asking a question which you have already provided an answer!! Here is the answer you already gave with some editing if you permit me...

    Is Yar'Adua the reason for the upsurge in BH's activities since then?
    YES!!! WHY?
    violence begets violence and injustice begets injustice. The Police under Yar'Adua's orders murdered in cold blood a lot of innocent people..., under the guise of dealing with Boko Haram. These people have relatives and some of them have now joined the group out of frustration and the belief that the Nigerian State will not do anything about bringing to book those who murdered their loved ones.
    Finally,

    Don't you believe that the group has sponsors, mainly within the PDP, with their own agenda; is Yar'Adua to blame too that GEJ is not man enough to deal with those people? Common!

    Of course the group has sponsors within AND outside the PDP. I have said in this village many times, Nigerian politicians have no permanent party but permanent interests. Many in PDP today where in AC or ANPP yesterday and will be in CPC tomorrow. What this means is the have their own agenda regardless of where the wind has blown them. That agenda is what drives them not any yeye party ideology.

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    Glad The President is Listening ..to the right voices!

    http://www.nigeriavillagesquare.com/...l=1#post597829

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    Jonathan is going to stay through his term but will midwife the country into a true Federal and restructured entity. The Geopolitical Zones should have their distinct constitutions and control who resides within it.

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    Jonathan should resign and hand over to whom? boko haram Namadi Sambo? This editorial does not make sense!

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    Big-K, Admin...
    House cleaning, abeg.

    2015!!!

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