On This Day, April 22 1990

[Big-K]

We wish to emphasise that this is not just another coup but a well conceived, planned and executed revolution for the marginalised, oppressed and enslaved peoples of the Middle Belt and the south with a view to freeing ourselves and children yet unborn from eternal slavery and colonisation by a clique of this country. - Gideon Orkar

Read the full speech

[Mikky jaga]

It is an anniversary worth celebrating every year till the wishes of the young men are fulfilled

[picato]

I lost my first cousin in that revolution. He was the adjutant to Major Mukoro.

[Tomme]

Read the full speech

Gideon orkar should be the one in Comouflage.
I could remember this day went visting a familly in Ikorudu.
After Lagos governor Rasaki rally troop and help IBB foiled the coup, soldier took over Ogboru fish house at Ikorodu -Lagos Road and were selling the fish to Ikorodu locals.

I dont know if IBB could be tried for Killing these young dynamic Officers.
If he escape to the world beyong, his children should feel the pain.
IBB is a criminal.

[Ajibs]

I lost my first cousin in that revolution. He was the adjutant to Major Mukoro.

Sad to hear, I hope your family member is doing okay from the crisis in the north. You know Rtd. Prof. Mukoro is vying for governor of Delta state.

[picato]

Sad to hear, I hope your family member is doing okay from the crisis in the north. You know Rtd. Prof. Mukoro is vying for governor of Delta state.

Yes. I was able to speak to my nephew last night. He told me he was hiding out in the barracks.

[Tomme]

I lost my first cousin in that revolution. He was the adjutant to Major Mukoro.

Sad to hear, I hope your family member is doing okay from the crisis in the north. You know Rtd. Prof. Mukoro is vying for governor of Delta state.

Yes. I was able to speak to my nephew last night. He told me he was hiding out in the barracks.

This sounds like real sorrowful war story. A country full of human and mineral resources.
Some few individual turn it to hell on earth.

Sorry for the lost of your cousin, Picato.
I am happy IBB is made disable.
Looking forward the day he be put on trial.
Afterall, Augutus pinoche was tried in his eighties.

[I Love Nigeria]

1. Mgborogwu wrote, among other things, ... that...

Look guys, Nigeria will continue to be held down and afar from modern development so long as we painfully remain in this marriage of convenience with the Jihadist of the North. They want to live in Niger republic-Sudan-kind of Islamic country governed by Sharia; they should be encouraged or forced to do so

2.

shhhhh. make sure say ILN or super no hear you oh.
it is the west that is holding nigeria down, slave trade that ended thousands of years ago and the continuous exploitation by the IMF and world bank. no african country is to blame at all for anything.

We have national challenges, amongst which are poverty, inequality, marginalization and extreme economic hardship-suffering etc

BUT, the way to address these, would not be some immature, childish,sophomoric, incoherent and bigoted, discriminatory and hateful ways... otherwise, the cycle is merely repeated (with the natural attitude being, if you kill my cousin...)

[picato]

1. But the way to address these, would not be some immature, childish,sophomoric, incoherent and bigoted, discriminatory and hateful ways... otherwise, the cycle is merely repeated (with the natural attitude being, if you kill my cousin...)

Sometime you make lots of sense, but other times you write for the sake of writing. I am not the one killing innocent people. I have never gone out on the street looking for people from the North to harm over the flimsiest of excuse. I have never called anyone an infidel. So if you must direct your ire at any one it should be those people in the Northern part of the country who feel they are the lords and masters of those in the other parts. And certainly not me.I am proud of my cousin. He is my hero. He felt so strongly about the structural injustices in Nigeria and did something about it. Though he paid the ultimate price for that attempt, we consider him the best thing to happen to our family.

[I Love Nigeria]

Picato I am sorry about your loss and please accept my sincere sympathies and condolences... I have similarly expressed my condolences and sympathies to families and friends who are bereaved as a result of the heinous criminal acts in the aftermath of Nigeria's presidential elections.

My reference to COUSIN was not in response to your cousin... that "my cousin or if you kill my cousin" is a term which I have used for over ten years in reference to internecine intractable crises in Nigeria and in the Middle East... to describe crises and cycles of killing and avenging of killings

Picato to ILN

I am proud of my cousin. He is my hero. He felt so strongly about the structural injustices in Nigeria and did something about it. Though he paid the ultimate price for that attempt, we consider him the best thing to happen to our family.

Here is my use of the term in 2006 here at NVS, merely referring to "my cousin", as euphemism for killings and cycles of revenge

I Love Nigeria

http://www.nigeriavillagesquare.com/...hp/t-3009.html
Feb 8, 2006, 04:46 PM
I never really like to join religious debates, as it is liable to get emotional and even irrational-illogical. On all sides and by all sides.


Some people drop the Atomic/Nuclear bombs in Hiroshima and Nagasaki, and they were good Christians! Some people are currently dropping cluster bombs, smart bombs, bunker-buster bombs and shock and awe bombs. You guessed it! They are good Christian causing collateral damage every where!

What is the cause all the trouble in the world? The utter disregard of the feelings and yearnings of others! If you kill my cousin, it may interest you, that I may want to avenge the death of my cousin, even if it takes a life time to do so.


But the last time that I checked, Muslims are human being with feelings, but too many people these days, appear to talk over the heads of Muslims. In complete disregard of Muslims' human feelings, respect and dignity. And I think this is a mistake the world that continues to have utter disregard and disrespect for billions of Muslims on earth, (fellow humans) is doing so at its own peril and that should be apparent!

Muslims having been having it rough, particularly since September 11, 2001.
There are now persons who equate the average Muslims with terrorists and violence or depravity and there are evidence of this everywhere.

Muslims seem under siege and attack in too many parts of the world, and these silly cartoons have just exacerbated the whole feel of barrages directed at Muslims.

http://www.kwenu.com/publications/ad...slam_siege.htm

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...=Google+Search

It appears, that all hell have broken lose and many countries are now persistently putting Muslims and Islam, under siege and even ferocious attacks, instead of looking for criminals, it is now the case, that Muslims are being targeted in Spain, France, Iraq, Afghanistan, Palestine, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Philippines, Indonesia, Pakistan, and more recently, in Thailand.


Muslims are humans. They just like the rest of us they should be accorded respect and dignity. we should not pretend that the feelings of Muslims do not matter to us!I

Above is culled from a discussion in 2006 ... it was titled "Freedom of Expression Without Responsibility" http://nigeriavillagesquare.com/foru...onsibilty.html

[picato]

Now I understand your context. I apologize for misunderstanding your reference. I like your steadfastness in your belief in the wholeness of Nigeria. I like the patriotism that drips from your words in these boards. It is rather unfortunate that my bones rankle at the thought of being born in that hugely mismatched country, Nigeria. My father bled for that country. So did my father in law. They were soldiers for Nigeria. However, before he died, he told me himself that the greatest mistake he ever made was to have fought for the unity of that country. He was a general. He brought us up to look at Nigeria for what it is. An empire set up by the British for the Fulah hegemonic people to lord it over the other parts of Nigeria through their minions the Hausa's and other across the country. All his life and in spite of the height he attained in the Army, his commanding officers were always of the Fulah stock or of their most pliable dominions the Hausa's. The Army is set up that way. So is the lopsided distribution of seats in the National Assembly to ensure that when there is any question of National importance; the world view of the North wins. And now there seems to be re-alignment in the polity. And now people are stripping away the myth from the facts, they are afraid and fighting back to perpetuate the injustices of the ages.

[Tomme]

Picato..your No;9 post.
You assumed the Northern part of the country feel they are the lords and masters of those in the other parts.

Are we sure thats how they felt? Dont you think those guys are actually scared of the south smartness.
People who are hopeless and uncertain of thier future tend to damage that of others. (((The so called Witches senario))

They are threatening the south into believing that in the case of Broken Nigeria there could be real rebelion.

The threat is paying off all this long,,,,, our southern leaders are afraid of the likes of Isreal/Palistan crises in Nigeria.

South Republic of Nigeria would be the Isrealites and the North Republic of Nigeria, the Palestine. Life long Holy War.....

[I Love Nigeria]

Picato wrote to ILN

Now I understand your context. I apologize for misunderstanding your reference. I like your steadfastness in your belief in the wholeness of Nigeria. I like the patriotism that drips from your words in these boards.

I thank you for your intellectual honesty... uncommon sincerity and forthrightness. You have increased my respect and admiration for your contributions to every national issue debated here at NVS.

Additionally, I am deeply moved and touched by your loss and you family's experiences... and without any intent on my part to demean or devalue your painful experience as recounted by your good-self above... it bears mentioning again that your family's experience are quite identical or similar to my family's ( In other words, I deeply and keenly understand your pains and sorrows, not just as in an abstract or academic-intellectual concepts or level or as abstract matter) My family and I have endured these sordid situation personally and directly)!

You and I, and other Nigerians therefore, must ensure that our families have not suffered in vain... Have been killed in vain, so many Nigerians have been needlessly, senselessly murdered by fellow Nigerians, we should ensure bereavements are not in vain!

Hence in my comments yesterday (which were deleted by moderators) ... on the petition thread to withdraw NYSC members from the "North" or volatile spots/states, I had written to make the following suggestions:

1. Ensure arrests and prosecutions the criminals or culprits responsible for the carnage-rampages, to the fullest extents of Nigerian laws

2. Ensure monetary compensations and posthumous national awards to families and next of kins of murdered NYSC members during the presidential elections 2011

3. Ensure befitting burials for NYSC in our National Cemetery, Abuja with all military burial honors

4. Extoll their service in most ostentatious ways

Picato Once again, my sympathies and condolences.

And thank you for being honest, sincere, and magnanimous regarding our exchange here...
I have known mourning and bereavements in similar or identical circumstances in which you sadly find yourself
I share your pains and I understand your pains. Both in regard to bereavements and the our environment and the human condition in Nigeria which "permit" or make it possible for terrible things to happen, regularly and in mind-numbing frequency in occurrences ...

[First-lady]

Now I understand your context. I apologize for misunderstanding your reference. I like your steadfastness in your belief in the wholeness of Nigeria. I like the patriotism that drips from your words in these boards. It is rather unfortunate that my bones rankle at the thought of being born in that hugely mismatched country, Nigeria. My father bled for that country. So did my father in law. They were soldiers for Nigeria. However, before he died, he told me himself that the greatest mistake he ever made was to have fought for the unity of that country. He was a general. He brought us up to look at Nigeria for what it is. An empire set up by the British for the Fulah hegemonic people to lord it over the other parts of Nigeria through their minions the Hausa's and other across the country. All his life and in spite of the height he attained in the Army, his commanding officers were always of the Fulah stock or of their most pliable dominions the Hausa's. The Army is set up that way. So is the lopsided distribution of seats in the National Assembly to ensure that when there is any question of National importance; the world view of the North wins. And now there seems to be re-alignment in the polity. And now people are stripping away the myth from the facts, they are afraid and fighting back to perpetuate the injustices of the ages.

Wow
That is deep and worth quoting.
Oprah Winfrey always uses a saying that has formed part of my watchword in life and I paraphrase "we do what we think is right to do and when we know better, we do better"

May his soul rest in peace.

[First-lady]

One of the greatest piece ever written by a Nigerian,
An excerpt from the ahiara declaration in 1969 by Odumegwu Ojukwu
History is vindicating you sir.

We have indeed come a long way. We were once Nigerians, today we are Biafrans. We are Biafrans because on May 30, 1967, we finally said 'no' to the evils and injustices in which Nigeria was steeped. Nigeria was made up of peoples and groups with very little in common. As everyone know, Biafrans were in the fore-front among those who tried to make Nigeria a nation. It is ironic that some ill-informed and mischievous people today will accuse us of breaking up a united African country. Only those who do not know these facts or deliberately ignore them can hold such an opinion. We know the facts because we were there and the things that happened, happened to us.

Nigeria was indeed a very wicked and corrupt country in spite of the glorious image given her in the European press We know why Nigeria was given that image. It was her reward for serving the economic and political interests of her European masters. Nigeria is a stooge of Europe. Her independence was and is a lie. Even her Prime Minister was a Knight of the British Empire; but worse than her total subservience to foreign political and economic interests, Nigeria committed many crimes against her nationals which in the end made complete nonsense of her claim to unity. Nigeria persecuted and slaughtered her minorities; Nigerian justice was a farce her elections, her politics-her everything-was corrupt. Qualification, merit and experience were dislocated in public service. In one area of Nigeria, for instance, they preferred to turn a nurse who had worked for five years into a doctor rather than employ a qualified doctor from another part of Nigeria. Barely literate clerks were made Permanent Secretaries. A university Vice Chancellor was sacked because he belonged to the wrong tribe. Bribery, corruption and nepotism were so widespread that people began to wonder openly whether any country in the world could compare with Nigeria in corruption and abuse of power. All the modern institutions-the legislature the civil service, the army, the police, the judiciary, the universities, the trade unions and the organs of mass information-were devalued and made the tools of corrupt political power. There was complete neglect and impoverish ment of the people. Whatever prosperity there was, was deceptive. There was despair in many hearts, and the number of suicides was growing every day. The farmers were very hard- hit. Their standards of living had fallen steeply. The soil was perishing from over-farming and lack of scientific husbandry. The towns, like the soil, were waste-lands into which people put in too much exertion for too little reward. There were crime waves and people lived in fear of their lives. Business speculation, rack-renting, worship of money and share practices left a few people extremely rich at the expense of the many, and those few flaunted their wealth before the many and talked about sharing the national cake. Foreign interests did roaring business spreading consumer goods and wares among a people who had not developed a habit of thrift and well fell prey to Iying advertisements. Inequality of the sexes was actively promoted in Nigeria. Rather than aspire to equality with men, women were encouraged to accept the status of inferiority and to become the mistresses of successful politicians and business executive, or they were married off at the age of fourteen as the fifteenth wives of the new rich. That was the glorious Nigeria, the mythical Nigeria, celebrated in the European press.

Then worst of all came the genocide in which over 50,000 of our kith and kin were slaughtered in cold blood all over Nigeria and nobody asked questions; nobody showed regret; nobody showed remorse. Thus, Nigeria had become a jungle with no safety, no justice and no hope for our people. We decided then to found a new place, a human habitation away from the Nigerian jungle. That was the origin of our revolution. From the moment we assumed the illustrious name of the ancient kingdom of Biafra, we were rediscovering the original independence of a great African people. We accepted by this revolutionary act the glory, as well as the sacri fice, of true independence and freedom. We knew that we had challenged the many forces and interests which had conspired to keep Africa and the black race in subjection for ever. We knew they were going to be ruthless and implacable in defense of their age-old imposition on us and exploitation of our people. But we were prepared, and remain prepared, to pay any price for our freedom and dignity.

Our revolution is a historic opportunity given to us to establish a just society; to revive the dignity of our people at home and the dignity of the black man in the world. We realize that in order to achieve those ends we must remove those weaknesses in our institutions and organizations and those disabilities in foreign relations which have tended to degrade this dignity. This means that we must reject Nigerianism in all its guises.

The Biafran revolution is the people's revolution. 'Who are the people?' you ask. The farmer, the trader, the clerk, the businessman, the housewife, the student, the civil servant, the soldier-you and I arc the people. Is there anyone here who is not of the people? Is there anyone here afraid of the people-anyone suspicious of the people ? Is there anyone despising the people ? Such a man has no place in our revolution. If he is a leader, he has no right to leadership, because all power, all sovereignty, belongs to the people. In Biafra the people are supreme; the people are master the leader is the servant. You see, you make a mistake when you greet me with shouts of 'power, power'. I am not power-you are. My name is Emeka, I am your servant, that is all.

read the rest http://kwenu.com/biafra/ahiara_declaration.htm

does it ring true in 2011?

[denker]

dr. ma good bruder, ojukwu was/is ahead of his time, awo saw just short term benefits...am angry!

[First-lady]

The Biafran struggle is, on another plane, a resistance to the Arab-Muslim expansionism which has menaced and ravaged the African continent for twelve centuries.

Our Biafran ancestors remained immune from the Islamic contagion. From the middle years of the last century Christianity was established in our land. In this way we came to be a predominantly Christian people. We came to stand out as a non-Muslim island in a raging Islamic sea. Throughout the period of the ill-fated Nigerian experiment, the Muslims hoped to infiltrate Biafra by peaceful means and quiet propaganda, but failed. Then the late Ahmadu Bello, the Sardauna of Sokoto tried, by political and economic blackmail and terrorism, to convert Biafrans settled in Northern Nigeria to Islam. His hope u as that these Biafrans of dispersion would then carry Islam to Biafra, and by so doing give the religion political control of the area. The crises which agitated the so-called independent Nigeria from 1962 gave these aggressive proselytizers the chance to try converting us by force.

It is now evident why the fanatic Arab-Muslim states like Algeria, Egypt and the Sudan have come out openly and massively to support and aid Nigeria in her present war of genocide against us. These states see militant Arabism as a powerful instrument for attaining power in the world. Biafra is one of the few African states untainted by Islam. Therefore, to militant Arabism, Biafra is a stumbling block to their plan for controlling the whole continent. This control is fast becoming manifest in the Organization of African Unity.

~~Odumegwu Ojukwu 1969

[First-lady]

dr. ma good bruder, ojukwu was/is ahead of his time, awo saw just short term benefits...am angry!

One can't miss the similarity between what the Ikemba said in 1969 and what the brave Orkar group said in 1990, 21 years after.
Sad that in 2011, another 21 years after the failed Orkar coup the same truth still reverberates and some still choose to bury their heads in the sand and shout One Nigeria
One Nigeria my bakassi
maybe we should wait another 21 years

[I Love Nigeria]

Of course we know our history!

But of course we know the consequences of past and the impact of all that on our current conditions...

What we now do with these knowledge will show the extent of our collective sense of what is right, just and equitable... and our place in history and our extent and quality of the human refinement we have attained - ILN

Harold Smith on colonial Britain’s hidden agenda in Nigeria
Friday, 21 January 2011 18:10 administrator
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The man Harold Smith is not new in Nigerian history. He is one of the architects of the colonial foundation that led to Nigeria’s independence in 1960. I met him in a meeting three weeks ago where he opened up a bit on lingering problems in Africa, especially Nigeria’s unbalanced so-political relationship. We asked if he could make this known to the media. His response was “I am in my 80s now; I have agreed. In the past ‘they’ did not want me to say anything, but now I don’t want to go to my grave without telling the truth about the atrocities perpetrated in Africa by the colonialists.





On a Ben TV programme last Thursday, Harold Smith spoke about what went on behind the scene before independence. The Oxford University graduate had this to say about his role in Nigeria’s pre- and post-independence era. “Our agenda was to completely exploit Africa.

Nigeria was my duty post. When we assessed Nigeria, this was what we found in the southern region: strength, intelligence, a determination to succeed, well established history, complex but focused life styles, great hope and aspirations… the East is good in business and technology, the West is good in administration and commerce, law and medicine, but it was a pity we planned our agenda to give power “at all costs” to (one region)... Our mission was accomplished by destroying the opposition on all fronts. The West led in the fight for independence, and was punished for asking for freedom”.

Harold Smith justified the British agenda of colonialism in Nigeria, which he believed was originally to help build Africa after the ruins of slave trade, but lamented that the British only looked after themselves and not Nigerian interest. “The British really let Nigeria down. When I see Nigerians being accused of fraud and from what I saw on the streets of Lagos, the British were the worst fraudsters”, he said.

He said the time has come now to see people of intelligent minds with an open and inclusive agenda for all Nigerians in power, people who will really look after Nigeria’s large population. However, he added: “I still curiously and sorrowfully see now that the British have not let go of Nigeria, her wealth, her future”.

He said that Caucasians now assert themselves as the keepers of the “New Age” keys, adding that it was “only logical for Europeans to maintain their position of power, scientific superiority, economic exploitation; they must continue to perpetuate their lies and falsehoods and this is the most unkind cut of all in relation to the Nigerian situation”.

According to him, Nigeria, a great nation was crippled not because of military juntas or corrupt leaders alone but by the British and American fear of Nigeria’s great future. He confessed, “The fear of the place that will be our ‘dumping ground’ really occupied our minds”. Some of the things he said were not new to Nigerians or to the whole world but hearing it from the horse’s mouth is quite revealing and established more reality zones. He submitted that the colonial masters did a lot of havoc while they were in Africa, and planted time bombs when they finally left. “What we have seen since independence is an administration of new internal colonial masters, fellow Nigerians doing more damage to Nigeria. Instead of detonating the time bombs planted by the British, it is planting mines”.

He added that “It was my duty to carry out all of the above and I was loyal to my country. Nigerians should try to be loyal to their country leaders and followers alike. Love your country. You have got the potentials to be great again and the whole world knows this. I’m sorry for the evil done to Nigeria. I can’t say sorry enough’. My people, this is a great “expo” what do you think???

Olaitan Komolafe

Olakomo2@yahoo.com

[First-lady]

I have agreed. In the past ‘they’ did not want me to say anything, but now I don’t want to go to my grave without telling the truth about the atrocities perpetrated in Africa by the colonialists.


On a Ben TV programme last Thursday, Harold Smith spoke about what went on behind the scene before independence. The Oxford University graduate had this to say about his role in Nigeria’s pre- and post-independence era. “Our agenda was to completely exploit Africa.

Nigeria was my duty post. When we assessed Nigeria, this was what we found in the southern region: strength, intelligence, a determination to succeed, well established history, complex but focused life styles, great hope and aspirations… the East is good in business and technology, the West is good in administration and commerce, law and medicine, but it was a pity we planned our agenda to give power “at all costs” to (one region)... Our mission was accomplished by destroying the opposition on all fronts. The West led in the fight for independence, and was punished for asking for freedom”.

Wow
wow
wow

Interesting !!
He who has an ear should hear

[picato]

Indeed harshly have I learnt, If like soap you want to make men clean, like soap you will dwindle in that Act. "Ovonranmen Nogbaisi" by Ola Rotimi. It is entirely futile to make those that are intent on killing, burning, and maiming clean

[Tomme]

why did Awo or the West refused to support Ojukwu and the Biafra.

[Igboamaeze]

Nigerian justice was a farce her elections, her politics-her everything-was corrupt. Qualification, merit and experience were dislocated in public service. In one area of Nigeria, for instance, they preferred to turn a nurse who had worked for five years into a doctor rather than employ a qualified doctor from another part of Nigeria. Barely literate clerks were made Permanent Secretaries. A university Vice Chancellor was sacked because he belonged to the wrong tribe. Bribery, corruption and nepotism were so widespread that people began to wonder openly whether any country in the world could compare with Nigeria in corruption and abuse of power. All the modern institutions-the legislature the civil service, the army, the police, the judiciary, the universities, the trade unions and the organs of mass information-were devalued and made the tools of corrupt political power.

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Shame that these same vices are still here with us, 50 years after...

[Ewuro]

“I was very sorry for the A.G; it was a great party too much for African standard. We planned to destroy Awolowo and Azikwe well, the west and the east and sowed a seed of discord among them”

SOURCE

You have to look at the problems of Nigeria in contexts.

[Anioma777]

Major Orkah and his co coup plotters are heroes. Many Nigerians make me laugh they will sooner work against eachother to archieve nothing than work together to archieve something. The question now is GEJ willing to be brave and split the country. Also apart from making the south strong in military terms what about the average Igbo man who has business/work up north or the Yoruba man in Niger Delta working in a lucrative oil contract or the Bini.Esan,Tiv,Ibibio,Urhobo working in Lagos? Do you honestly think these peopel will be willing to buy into the break up Nigeria either into 4 regions or just north and south. Call me cynical but we have been here before time after time. Unless the average Nigerian puts their selfish needs to one side we may still be speaking in tongues in 50 years time about what a tragedy Nigeria is.

I get annoyed when Africans blame their former colonial power. The Western powers can only succeed with the help of African willing to do thier bidding. The quote from Chinua Achebe book 'The Education of a British-Protected Child' where he quotes a British colonial service officer and novelist called John Buchan in his book Prester John :-

"That is the difference white and black, the gift of responsibility....As long as we know and practice it we will rule not in Africa alone but wherever there are dark men who live only for their bellies"

NEED I SAY.....MORE!!!! May the souls of Genuine coup plotters of January 1966 and April 1990 rest in peace. As my mother always says better to try and fail and be free in death than be alive and not do anything but yet live a life of misery. Is it not a shame irrespective of what the reason coming to the west was that we are valued and treated as human beings by the so called Oyinbo, but yet in our so called home Nigeria you experience things that is unthinkable in the west.

[I Love Nigeria]

Anioma777 wrote

The question now is GEJ willing to be brave and split the country.

this is so childishly-immature!

This is so anti Nigeria!

This is so myopic, parochial and shortsighted!

Why would a responsible president or political leader split or break his nation apart?

[Tomme]

Major Orkah and his co coup plotters are heroes. Many Nigerians make me laugh they will sooner work against eachother to archieve nothing than work together to archieve something. The question now is GEJ willing to be brave and split the country. Also apart from making the south strong in military terms what about the average Igbo man who has business/work up north or the Yoruba man in Niger Delta working in a lucrative oil contract or the Bini.Esan,Tiv,Ibibio,Urhobo working in Lagos? Do you honestly think these people will be willing to buy into the break up Nigeria either into 4 regions or just north and south. Call me cynical but we have been here before time after time.

President Goodluck Johnathan may not devide Nigeria because thats not easy, the National Assembly wont accept it.
They cant afford to loose their thousands and millions of Dollars and Naira wages.

The only people that could do it in 24 hours are the three southerners armed forces chief including the SSS chief who himself is southerner.
Thare can take over the government break the coutry and return the government back to civilian in short time, Period.

[I Love Nigeria]

Tomme wrote

Goodlock Johnathan may not devide Nigeria because thats not easy, the National Assembly wont accept it.
The cant afford to loose their thousands and millions of Dollars and Naira wages.

The only people that could do it in 24 hours are the three southerners armed forces chief including the SSS chief who himself is southerner.
Thare can take over the government break the coutry and return the government back to civilian in short time, Period.

And this would be a happy event from your perspectives? You would celebrate such actions?

You are maligning those service chiefs to whom you have labeled and scandalized... you should desist from ethnic, sectional and geographic flame-throwing... you should observe some restraint... instead of pouring more petrol unto a flaming inferno...

[Tomme]

And this would be a happy event from your perspectives? You would celebrate such actions?

You are maligning those service chiefs to whom you have labeled and scandalized... you should desist from ethnic, sectional and geographic flame-throwing... you should observe some restraint... instead of pouring more petrol unto a flaming inferno...

I understand what you mean and the complication.
The question is how long would the southeners continue to observe some restraint.
There is no year that passess by without the killing of southeners in the North..

You sounds like a peace loving person. I love peace too.
Now if you are sharing a house with some one that does'nt want to respect you as a person what would you do.?

I prefer to quit.

[Mikky jaga]

why did Awo or the West refused to support Ojukwu and the Biafra.

The answer is simple: The time was not ripe for such. If you do a right thing at the wrong time you get a wrong result.

[Chief Kalu]

President Goodluck Johnathan may not devide Nigeria because thats not easy, the National Assembly wont accept it.
They cant afford to loose their thousands and millions of Dollars and Naira wages.

The only people that could do it in 24 hours are the three southerners armed forces chief including the SSS chief who himself is southerner.
Thare can take over the government break the coutry and return the government back to civilian in short time, Period.

The belief in the Nigerian project will make it very difficult for any leader to attempt dividing the country. My opinion is that we have made progress though very slowly. We have succeeded in shifting the core power centre from the core north to the south. Terms of coexistence could further be adjusted in line with justice and fairness inspite of great odds. This singular power shift is very encouraging and makes the project a hopeful one. Methinks it is the turn of the core North to decide if it wants to continue to be part of this project or not.

[Anioma777]

@ILN

Not sure if you have time or seen my posts over time. I used to be pro Nigeria and like you was angry even at the mere thought of breaking up Nigeria. However I am realistic and just like only people with an dark intentions will continue to stay in a marriage when it clearly is not working with violence, lack of respect, emotional abuse etc will continue to advocate that the marriage remains intact. The consequences is that one person and if they have children will suffer in later on in their lives. The same with Nigeria. If you are happy and condone where you have stark illiterates and inexperienced Northerners holding key positions and with a born to rule mentality is good for Nigeria then I must say you are either living in a fantasy world or running 440 from the truth.

I remember your bizarre explosion at the thought of Obama soon after he was sworn into office deciding to visit Ghana and delivering a stern lecture to Africans on the need for credible institutions to facilitate growth. It was then I began to question your misguided LOVE for Nigeria and your subsequent views have confirmed this notion. It is your right but as my mother will say "ONE CANNOT KEEP USING THE SAME METHODS TO COMPLETE A TASK AND THEN WONDER WHY THE TASK NEVER GETS COMPLETED".

As I said in another thread by Obugi most Nigerians are suffering for ACUTE DENIAL SYNDROME. I will go further and say this is driven by the worst case of DELUSIONS OF GRANDEUR.

Granted Nigeria is not as easy patient but that is because MOST NIGERIANS have the unenviable ability to complicate situations when simplicity is called for. Those in the UK might know of him, Clive Anderson a Lawyer, broadcaster and comedian when he vsited Nigeria about a decade ago on a series touring so called worst cities in the world said :'-

The is not much wrong with Lagos or Nigeria as a whole you don't find in other cities but the simple fact is "Nigerians just exploit themselves and then wonder why they are in a mess".

I should have made it clear in my previous post when I said GEJ should split the country by saying what I have said many times on record on NVS have a national referedum and let the people vote. If it means breaking the law to archieve this breakup so be it. Breaking the law with a noble intent that will yield dividends for the people is ok by me. Afterall he came into power under rigged elections in the last elections with UMYA.

@Mikky Jaga

The answer is simple: The time was not ripe for such. If you do a right thing at the wrong time you get a wrong result.

Not always. Ok then when the time was right for Awolowo to contest two Presidential elections why did he lose? He lost because he was never going to take Nigeria forward and his party UPN which incidentally my parents where active state menbers of UPN, had no other following outside the SW apart from Bendel. So with the South East, North and other regions. It was a futile political adventure the same with NPP under Azikiwe.
Also the SW just like the rest of Nigeria is backward so what benefit has the SW got from joining Nigeria.

From those who took part in the civil war and pre-civil war from civilians to military officers their take was Ndi Igbos were not looking for Yorubas to join forces with them as the Yorubas too deserved their own nation but to have taken a stance. In the end Awolowo like all Nigerians suffered and are still suffering in one form or the other. As Pa Enabaifo a UPN stalwart in the old Bendel state and good frineds of my parents told my father that in his discussions with Awolowo he sensed without him ( Awolowo ) saying it that he made the wrong decision and in truth it was all about oil. I suppose we will never know what his true intentions were. IT WAS AN OPPORTUNITY MISSED BY ALL NIGERIANS. In particular even Ken Sara-Wiwa must have regretted his own decision to support Nigeria. A noble effort to fight for the ogoni but I always believe the devil you know is better than the angel you don't. Hindsight is a wonderful thing when it is too late to seek solace in. Question is when the opportunity comes again who will blink first.....

[Mikky jaga]

@Mikky Jaga



Not always. Ok then when the time was right for Awolowo to contest two Presidential elections why did he lose? He lost because he was never going to take Nigeria forward and his party UPN which incidentally my parents where active state menbers of UPN, had no other following outside the SW apart from Bendel. So with the South East, North and other regions. It was a futile political adventure the same with NPP under Azikiwe.
Also the SW just like the rest of Nigeria is backward so what benefit has the SW got from joining Nigeria.

From those who took part in the civil war and pre-civil war from civilians to military officers their take was Ndi Igbos were not looking for Yorubas to join forces with them as the Yorubas too deserved their own nation but to have taken a stance. In the end Awolowo like all Nigerians suffered and are still suffering in one form or the other. As Pa Enabaifo a UPN stalwart in the old Bendel state and good frineds of my parents told my father that in his discussions with Awolowo he sensed without him ( Awolowo ) saying it that he made the wrong decision and in truth it was all about oil. I suppose we will never know what his true intentions were. IT WAS AN OPPORTUNITY MISSED BY ALL NIGERIANS. In particular even Ken Sara-Wiwa must have regretted his own decision to support Nigeria. A noble effort to fight for the ogoni but I always believe the devil you know is better than the angel you don't. Hindsight is a wonderful thing when it is too late to seek solace in. Question is when the opportunity comes again who will blink first.....

Awo lost because the rulers of Nigeria then, used propaganda to prevent the type of voting pattern we witnessed in this election. Of course, it can also be argued that it was not the right time for that type of coalition to happen in the country during the time of Awo.

The problem with the Biafran war was that it was a decision taken at the spur of the moment when emotions were still high and cold calculated reasoning was relegated to the background. Awo was not a man that takes decision based on emotions. He normally analyzes situations carefully before taking position. At that particular time, Northern military men were occupying the West. It would have been suicidal for Awo to jump on the Biafran bandwagon and declare an Oduduwa Republic.