Nigerians Banned From Vietnam due to Criminal Activities of Dubious Nigerians !!!

Ispy · Feb 8, 2009 , 05:24 AM

Bad Eggs: Nigerians Banned From Vietnam for Spates of Criminal Activities from Dubious Nigerian Immigrants

February 07, 2009
ThisDay

Government of the Eastern Asia Socialist Republic of Vietnam has embarked on a serious crack down of Nigerians resident in the country following a wave of anti-social and criminal activities reportedly being perpetrated by Nigerian immigrants.

THISDAY gathered that following the unabating criminal acts by Nigerians resident in the country, Vietnamese authorities had recently placed a blanket ban on Nigerian travellers entering the country, irrespective of whether such travellers are government officials and businessmen who have genuine reasons or not.

Sources, including a Ministry of Foreign Affairs official in Abuja disclosed that the Vietnamese authorities had also two weeks ago summoned the Nigerian Ambassador in Hanoi,the nation's capital, to officially protest what they consider the unbecoming attitude of Nigerians and to intimate him of
plans to deport scores of Nigerians already in detention over
diverse criminal acts.

Impeccable sources told THISDAY that three Nigerians, who attempted to smuggle themselves into Vietnam last month were also arrested and are among those billed for deportation any moment from now.

The patience of Vietnamese authorities reportedly snapped following incessant cases of high profile crimes, including drug peddling, sexual assault on Vietnamese ladies,violent/bloody clashes between Nigerians and their
compatriots, street fighting, and immigration violations, among others.

A couple of weeks ago, a group of Nigerians were said to have murdered their compatriot in cold blood. Although the name of the victim could not be ascertained, a source told THISDAY that his family in Nigeria has been informed about the incident.

In December, a middle aged Nigerian was brutally attacked and seriously wounded for daring to challenge a fellow Nigerian who allegedly ripped him off of money sent to him from his parents in Nigeria.
The victim, THISDAY learnt, was given $2,500 by his parents in Nigeria, who heard about his financial straits in Vietnam through another Nigerian, who is said to be having an agency in Vietnam which he deploys into bringing Nigerians to that country.

Rather than deliver the money in full, the middleman was reported to have deducted $1000 as 'service charge' and delivered only $15000 to the owner. When confronted, he was said to have unleashed an army of thugs, who inflicted deep matchete cuts on the victim for daring to challenge him.

In Hochi Minh City, the commercial nerve centre of Vietnam where most of the Nigerian immigrants are living, THISDAY gathered that some Nigerians have registered companies with which they engage in luring their fellow compatriots back home to the Asian nation after being paid handsomely for their services.
On getting to Vietnam, with high hopes, the stark reality of the supposed economic Eldorado dawns on the Nigerian immigrants, who are fortunate to be allowed entry into the country, while others are arrested at the entry point to Vietnam, detained or deported immediately.

Those who find their way into the country soon discover that there are hardly any rewarding jobs. With labour being very cheap in the country, graduates are paid an average of about $200 a month.

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lateesha · Feb 8, 2009 , 05:38 AM

There;s no place Nigerians won't migrate to.
What's a sane person looking for in Vietnam?
Are they looking to work in the rice fields or drag wooden carts with their necks and shoulders?

Feb 8, 2009 , 02:24 PM

The situation in Nigeria is Insane, an Insane set of circumstances, thats why Nigerians do 'insane' things, all in the hope of escaping the insanity and leaving behind their crazy existence; like boarding a rikity-rakity fishermans canoe on a dangerous and life threatining journey across a dangerous Ocean from Mali to Spain and Malta.

BTW, Vietnam is thriving, they kissed and made up with America and this new relationship has led to a continued inflow of foreign money in the form of long-term foreign investment. Visit Hanoi, Hochi Minh or Haidong to see how much progress they have made. The sea of motor bikes are a nuisance though, like our Okada's.

Boiler-Room criminal activities and drug smuggling and distribution are, predominantly, what Nigerians are in SE Asian prison's for.

Miliki Way · Feb 8, 2009 , 03:30 PM

Originally Posted by Niibel

The situation in Nigeria is Insane, an Insane set of circumstances, thats why Nigerians do 'insane' things, all in the hope of escaping the insanity and leaving behind their crazy existence; like boarding a rikity-rakity fishermans canoe on a dangerous and life threatining journey across a dangerous Ocean from Mali to Spain and Malta.

I have often wondered:

1. Why is it that Nigerians don't ever do insane things like physically attacking CORRUPT government officials to demand accountability and destroying their properties if and when necessary to drive home the point?

2. Why is the insanity always manifested through reckless, and sometimes criminal EMIGRATION attempts? Why risk life and limb crawling through sahara deserts or hiding as stowaway in the underbelly of some ship when such act of desperation, if redirected towards attacking corrupt officials, can get you the good life you desire at home?

But then it hits me! Nigerians are NOT united in purpose. In a country where rotational presidency is openly and shamelessly practiced irregardless of competency, a country where hard work is villified and corruption exalted and rewarded, how can one demand accountability much less launch an attack without ones efforts being thwarted by those who use religion as a wedge and ethnicity as a bludgeon?

peterosa · Feb 8, 2009 , 03:57 PM

Together we stand divided we fall lets stop killing and fighting our selfs in a strange land.
We should also know their are many people impensinating as Nigerians.WE SHOULD ALWAYS BE CAREFUL IN OUR JUDGEMENT.

charles4u · Feb 8, 2009 , 04:04 PM

Originally Posted by lateesha

There;s no place Nigerians won't migrate to.
What's a sane person looking for in Vietnam?
Are they looking to work in the rice fields or drag wooden carts with their necks and shoulders?

...My sister I no no o, I just dont understand why Asia countries ?..Yes even Japan or Singapore or China, all this countries hates blacks so bad I cant even say the things they do to Nigerians in Malaysia.

...I cant even go to any African country the way some people talk about it, Is Nigeria totally worst or all this people just wanna be in this category of "I dey abroad".

1. Why is that Nigerians don't ever do insane things like physically attacking CORRUPT government officials to demand accountability and destroying their properties if and when necessary to drive home the point?

This is my question also...

Dapxin · Feb 8, 2009 , 05:54 PM

The situation in Nigeria is Insane, an Insane set of circumstances, thats why Nigerians do 'insane' things, all in the hope of escaping the insanity and leaving behind their crazy existence

Insanely true! wooooooord!

Palamedes · Feb 8, 2009 , 07:07 PM

Blimey! What on earth are these Nigerians doing in Vietnam? I bet you that there are Nigerians on the Sun—our hot star!

Parents have $2,500 to send to their son but could not give him that money to start a small business in Nigeria? I forgot, we prefer “ready-made” to pioneering; and we make very good consumers but very poor producers.

In most countries, crimes committed by foreigners are always blown out of proportion. The impression one gets from reading this news is that the Nigerians—probably no more that a few hundreds--commit far more crime than the rest of the Vietnamese population put together.

Nigerian politicians hide looted money and go shopping in Western countries, which is the main reason they are too scared to criticize these Western countries and their poor treatment of Nigerians. I don't think Vietnam is such a place for Nigerian politicians. Well then, when is our government going to stand up to these countries, and warn them that they risk jeopardizing their trade with us, if they continue to target Nigerians unfairly in their countries.

Indeed If the Vietnamese wants to play hardball, then the FGoN must stop trade with them; close down their embassy; and send them packing—just make sure CNN is there to report it. This is just one way to stop countries round the world from picking on Nigerians. After all, if it wasn't for their cheap goods flooding the Nigerian market, these Nigerians wouldn't be unemployed or so desperate.

But I know what our government will (as they always) do in such circumstances: they will go down on their bended knees and apologies to the Vietnamese and even sign an agreement to impose further sanctions on Nigerians traveling to Vietnam.

I also think that it is high time the FGoN restricted Nigerian economic migrants from such places as Vietnam, Cambodia, India, Pakistan, China etc. These countries have surplus labour to do any work—so much so, they export their unemployment to Africa, particularly Nigeria.

Dapxin · Feb 8, 2009 , 07:33 PM

Originally Posted by Palamedes

Blimey! What on earth are these Nigerians doing in Vietnam? I bet you that there are Nigerians on the Sun—our hot star!

Parents have $2,500 to send to their son but could not give him that money to start a small business in Nigeria? I forgot, we prefer “ready-made” to pioneering; and we make very good consumers but very poor producers.

In most countries, crimes committed by foreigners are always blown out of proportion. The impression one gets from reading this news is that the Nigerians—probably no more that a few hundreds--commit far more crime than the rest of the Vietnamese population put together.

Nigerian politicians hide looted money and go shopping in Western countries, which is the main reason they are too scared to criticize these Western countries and their poor treatment of Nigerians. I don't think Vietnam is such a place for Nigerian politicians. Well then, when is our government going to stand up to these countries, and warn them that they risk jeopardizing their trade with us, if they continue to target Nigerians unfairly in their countries.

Indeed If the Vietnamese wants to play hardball, then the FGoN must stop trade with them; close down their embassy; and send them packing—just make sure CNN is there to report it. This is just one way to stop countries round the world from picking on Nigerians. After all, if it wasn't for their cheap goods flooding the Nigerian market, these Nigerians wouldn't be unemployed or so desperate.

But I know what our government will (as they always) do in such circumstances: they will go down on their bended knees and apologies to the Vietnamese and even sign an agreement to impose further sanctions on Nigerians traveling to Vietnam.

I also think that it is high time the FGoN restricted Nigerian economic migrants from such places as Vietnam, Cambodia, India, Pakistan, China etc. These countries have surplus labour to do any work—so much so, they export their unemployment to Africa, particularly Nigeria.

Except that your submission starts off, with the assumption that Nigeria as is, actually enjoys the benefit of a government ?

Ha! roll call -->

- dying president.
- silence is golden veepee.
- senate top - established dunce.
- houseOfReps - hmmmmm! do they still exist ?
- ministries. Lets not start.

I think we have got to a point where we shouldnt be refering to a government, or governance. Which ?

Its mind-numbing, contemplating these things...

TiOluwanile · Feb 8, 2009 , 07:58 PM

Originally Posted by Palamedes

Nigerian politicians hide looted money and go shopping in Western countries, which is the main reason they are too scared to criticize these Western countries and their poor treatment of Nigerians. I don't think Vietnam is such a place for Nigerian politicians. Well then, when is our government going to stand up to these countries, and warn them that they risk jeopardizing their trade with us, if they continue to target Nigerians unfairly in their countries.

Indeed If the Vietnamese wants to play hardball, then the FGoN must stop trade with them; close down their embassy; and send them packing—just make sure CNN is there to report it. This is just one way to stop countries round the world from picking on Nigerians. After all, if it wasn't for their cheap goods flooding the Nigerian market, these Nigerians wouldn't be unemployed or so desperate.

But I know what our government will (as they always) do in such circumstances: they will go down on their bended knees and apologies to the Vietnamese and even sign an agreement to impose further sanctions on Nigerians traveling to Vietnam.

I also think that it is high time the FGoN restricted Nigerian economic migrants from such places as Vietnam, Cambodia, India, Pakistan, China etc. These countries have surplus labour to do any work—so much so, they export their unemployment to Africa, particularly Nigeria.

Hmm...you are talking about the ideal. A government that has the interest of its citizens at heart. Unfortunately, we have government officials who are severely affected with the colonial mentality syndrome - everything white is good, regardless of the shade of white. Imagine, there are govt contracts you can't get if you have no foreigners on board. So we resort to bringing in economic migrants from the said countries because they are a lot cheaper than expatriates from Europe, etc.

From the tone of the article, it looks like Nigerians are practically holding the Vietnamese hostage with their criminal activities! Trust our press to broadcast everything bad about Nigeria to the highest heavens.

Palamedes · Feb 9, 2009 , 12:46 AM

Dapxin#8

Except that your submission starts off, with the assumption that Nigeria as is, actually enjoys the benefit of a government ?

Sir, I take it that your response was a “classic rush to judgment case” (as the late Johnnie Cochran would say) without mustering the strength and the energy to reach paragraph 6. And here I bring it to you:

But I know what our government will (as they always) do in such circumstances: they will go down on their bended knees and apologies to the Vietnamese and even sign an agreement to impose further sanctions on Nigerians traveling to Vietnam

TiOluwanile#9

Hmm...you are talking about the ideal.

Madam, All humans start from the ideal and adjust to reality. Between the lines, you seem to be saying that you don't expect anything from the governments. Now if I am a Nigerian politician, I would say to myself: “See! You conscience is clear, they don't expect anything from you, so why must you worry about doing something for them?"

Imagine, there are govt contracts you can't get if you have no foreigners on board. So we resort to bringing in economic migrants from the said countries because they are a lot cheaper than expatriates from Europe, etc.

Madam, are you saying that you do not have the answer to this scenario. Are you all dead in Nigeria? You mean you cannot organize yourselves and picket these companies bringing in these foreigners to take your jobs. Who are you waiting for? God?

Ranter · Feb 9, 2009 , 03:56 AM

True story judging from the what I heard from some embassy official in the region about a month ago.The tone of his voice showed he too was at a loss of what to do about the Vietnames case.Its just like when I go to visit my parents in Onitsha,and everyone I see behaves alien,too many of them and quite rude, loud, and unkempt.
Back to this part of the world,this news might be the begining of more unsavoury ones that are coming soon.Last Saturday the major English daily in Bangkok(Bangkokpost) carried the news about how African gangs use their poor village women as drug mules and getting them in jails around the globe.They used to say Nigerian Gang, but then again their suspects never carry Nigerian passports, so they now say African, and to the locals, they just only know africa is another name for Nigeria.
I see Nigerians on the streets, the malls,and at Church in and around southeast Asia,and most often I wonder if these ones came from the same place as I did.It seems the area attracts the worst breed.Its about the easiest place to get to because of the large number of traders and businessmen plying the route.The stories from China is as bad as the ones from India,vietnam,cambodia, singapore,and these stories repeat themselves everyday.

The problem is simply traceable back to the succesive failed governments back home and the severely eroded values and basic morals and ethics in our collective psyche.My main worry is that its gets worse by the day,from what I see on Nollywood to simple converstaion with people on the streets.The rot seems total and borders on total chaos.
Nigerians are quite angry with the state of their affairs and their anger seems directed to the wrong quaters.Like the saying "why leave the behind that farted to thump the head", we are exporting our angers,insecurity,frustrations to foreign countries who may or may not have been part guilty of the mess our system is in.

Like I said in another thread,we can not stop this mess all over the world by allowing everyone to have a passport and letting anybody with a ticket on a plane out of the country.

On a final note, I like that the Vietnamese ban covered every Nigerian passport Holder,though people like Andy Uba will skip the ban with their American ones.

Celticologist · Feb 9, 2009 , 08:04 PM

This may be somewhat true, but the story is like a nightly tale under a palm tree.

I'm not sure if this particular news organization is keen on things like reputation, integrity, intellectual accuracy....or one of many old fashioned 'itys' and 'isms' that can make it an authority.
Summary: The 'facts' in this story are fuzzy; not clear on specifics as a real event would have been reported.

There are no names of the supposed criminals or victims, no names of Nigerian or Vietnamese officials. Nigerian "ambassador" has no name, neither is his summoned counterpart!. The events described are hard to verify, nothing is entirely supported by names, witnesses, time, place...or other factual events to connect. Not like this is a security issue that should only be whispered quietly is it?. The information void is just too wide.

"Sources", "Impeccable sources", "A couple of weeks ago"..... What is all that?. And the story of the "$2,500 middle aged man"....how hard is it to invent one?.

thekingsjester · Feb 10, 2009 , 12:13 AM

Similar story
Source: http://www.thisdayonline.com/nview.php?id=134945

Killers of Lucky Dube ‘Thought He Was Nigerian’
•Marwa: Hatred of Nigerians unacceptable
From Juliana Taiwo in Abuja, 02.06.2009

Newspaper reports from South Africa said yesterday that legendary reggae music icon, Lucky Dube, was killed because he was mistaken for a Nigerian.
But the Nigerian High Commissioner to South Africa, Brig.-Gen. Buba Marwa (rtd), who spoke to the Southern Africa correspondent of the News Agency of Nigeria (NAN) yesterday reacted with shock to reports that Dube was shot because his killers thought he was a Nigerian.
He said it was unacceptable that South Africans would perceive Nigerians with such hatred.
According to him, this perception was in spite of Nigeria’s contribution to the liberation of South Africans from the oppressive Apart-heid regime.
“This kind of situation is unacceptable to us as a people and government,’’ Marwa said.
He said what the perception meant was that once “one is a Nigerian, you are not safe here in South Africa’’ .
The matter, according to him, would be tabled at the Review Meeting of the Nigeria-South Africa Bi-National Commission later this month in Abuja.
“This matter has to be tabled and concluded with before the situation escalates out of hand. What if Nigerians at home also decide to set up South Africans?’’, he asked rhetorically, saying “we must stop it now and get the relationship back to where it should be, friendly and acceptability of brotherliness.’’
He emphasised that “we are the same people who have toiled together in the past and are still toiling now.’’
“We have thousands of Nigerian professionals and entrepreneurs who engage in hard, decent and legitimate businesses and contribute to the economy of South Africa.
“If they have laboured hard to legitimately earn their pay, they reserve the right to afford whatever luxury cars of their taste and live out the best life-styles of their desire. It is their entitlement and definitely not a crime for you to live well if you work hard for it.
“Nigerians should not be seen as criminal elements. Are they saying that because as a Nigerian who rides a flashy car he should be killed? We will not accept that. We will resist it,’’ he said.
Marwa assured Nigerians who called the high commission on the matter that “we are on top of the matter’’ and urged them to remain law abiding citizens.

Palamedes · Feb 10, 2009 , 03:59 AM

Nice to hear a Nigerian Ambassador speak out for his country; and I hope that he follows up his rhetorics. Enough is Enough!

Ranter · Feb 10, 2009 , 04:34 AM

Originally Posted by Celticologist

This may be somewhat true, but the story is like a nightly tale under a palm tree.

I'm not sure if this particular news organization is keen on things like reputation, integrity, intellectual accuracy....or one of many old fashioned 'itys' and 'isms' that can make it an authority.
Summary: The 'facts' in this story are fuzzy; not clear on specifics as a real event would have been reported.

There are no names of the supposed criminals or victims, no names of Nigerian or Vietnamese officials. Nigerian "ambassador" has no name, neither is his summoned counterpart!. The events described are hard to verify, nothing is entirely supported by names, witnesses, time, place...or other factual events to connect. Not like this is a security issue that should only be whispered quietly is it?. The information void is just too wide.

"Sources", "Impeccable sources", "A couple of weeks ago"..... What is all that?. And the story of the "$2,500 middle aged man"....how hard is it to invent one?.

Celt........,

Having been reading newspapers and listening to the electronic mass media in that region for over 10 years,I can sincerely tell you that I see nothing wrong with that story or have an iota of doubt about its authenticity.

You can read about the story of a murder in a hotel room here, and yet you would never know the name of the hotel, because the reporter would put the hotel out of business for a while and that particular room will never be occupied by a local.

NextLevel · Feb 10, 2009 , 12:29 PM

I can speak for myself - I applied for a visa to Vietnam early last year and was not approved for a pretty long time. Ultimately, it took the intervention of the head of the embassy after being contacted by one of my school administrators to get me the visa. Of course, I simply entered the country, completed my business there, and exited. But I saw a few Nigerians in an Internet Cafe there. Hopefully, they were not up to any of the stuff that made this more explicit.

But it is that experience that leads me to believe this article and appreciate Niibel's post.

BOOSTIC · Apr 6, 2009 , 10:33 PM

"Charity begins at home" i was told in moral, spiritual,educational,societal,.....spheres. Vietnam is cleaning-up Vietnam...i commend them honestly,but,let the chaff be separated from the "rice".Isn`t time nigreian`s clean-up nigreia ??? of those criminal politicians especially, those whose names (family} have been infamous for decades..or..those who prior to present status of "distinguished" sen., rep. , mins... was a extinguished con man,liquidator,cultist...area boys full of vanity.They should have focused on POWER

which will motivate manufacturers and investors alike...keep our boys productive at home

maybe we have to be patient till next "election" or selection.is it ignorance ??? can awareness do ? when is the next one due by the way ??? CLEAN UP NIGERIA !!!

SYNERGY.
BOOSTIC.