Perspectives on Obafemi Awolowo

[nero africanus]

Obafemi Awolowo the finance minister

It was Akabueze Nwamadu who said that the civil war was waged on two fronts the military / political front and the economic front.

It was Odumegwu Ojukwu who released Awo from prison in Calabar who said that he had some discussions and agreements with Awo but apparently Awo had the Yoruba situation under review all the time. This was why he said he would never say anything bad about him(awo), for Awo everything was about the Yorubas.

Awo himself said that Nigerian was a mere geographical expression, he did not for one day believe in it and went along with the Nigerian idea for convenience. This will be seen how he was actively in support of the break up of the old western region which saw the creation of an ethnically pure western region and mid west region. This is not to say that there was no agitation by the minorities in the old western region for the creation of what later became Bendel state. There was agitation in every region including east and north and up till this day there is still agitation for creation of new states, in spite of the fact that most of the states as they are today are not viable. In the north, there was agitation particularly in the present day Benue state which led to the Nigerian army being sent there to put down a rebellion by the Tivs. In the east there was agitation for new states which was called COR Calabar – Ogoja - Rivers movement.

Observers of the time all seem to agree on the intelligence of Awo. This singular fact was never in doubt. Awo’s paramount interest was the welfare of the Yoruba pure and simple, everything and everybody else did not matter. This could be seen in the tactical strategy that was his master strokes. Having the interest of the Yoruba as the most important thing is not bad in itself, if you are the premier of the western region, but it horribly backfires if you are finance minister of the federal republic. It turns what normally is supposed to be a good man into a horrible monster.
The Nigerian army in its slow advance into the Igbo heart land took no prisoners, they committed such grievous atrocities that the civilians retreated before the Biafra army. The consequence of this was that in the Nigerian army advance, they almost always encountered ghost towns. The federal executive council was aware of this and the idea of the use of starvation as a weapon was brought by awolowo.Questioned about this in an interview in 1969, he responded that the idea was to bring a speedy end to the war. The human cost of that singular policy is still being felt in the demographics of Igbo land.

However the problem was that awo was not interested on one Nigeria as an idea, he was only interested in the welfare of the Yoruba even that the mortal expense of others.
The nature of the way Igbos fled other parts of Nigeria to the east meant that bank accounts, assets and every other thing was left behind. upon the end of the war, All Igbos no matter how much they had left behind, this was simply expropriated by the Nigerian state in return they were given only 20 pounds. This particularly vicious and vindictive robbery was again Awo’s idea. So badly hit were merchants and trader families. Also badly hit were civil servants who fled to the east before the last salaries were paid. The Biafra pound was a freely converting currency that exchanged on the world Market. Awo appropriated this for the Nigerian state and in return gave 20 pounds.
The effect was so economically devastating that at the time people did not foresee any recovery; in the whole of Igbo land nobody had more than 20 pounds. The recovery was very slow, torturous and painful. my grand father made the journey to Lagos where he was based before the war refusing to believe that his business capital he had left in the bank before the war had been taken by awo, he went to his bank in Lagos where he was told that his account was marked Biafra account like others and had been seized by the government. The man returned to his village where he died 6 months later, the war didn’t kill him, Awo did. In the light of all these, Awo brought up another wonderful plan to indigenise and nationalise foreign companies in Nigeria. This was at a time when the average Igbo man had 20 pounds. The north had always been economically backward compared with the south and could not participate much, the effect was that Yorubas as a direct consequence of Awo’s action purchased corporate Nigeria in that nationalisation act. This lopsidedness is still being felt even today almost 40 years later. The biggest coup of them all was the replacement of the Igbo public servant by the Yoruba public servant. This can still be seen today in Nitel and other public utilities which still have predominantly Yoruba staff.

Indeed Soyinka alluded to this in his book “the man died”, when he described that with the purging of the Igbos and the civil war. There were vast promotions and recruitments to replace the existing gaps ,the north could not benefit in this in any way not having the trained manpower required.

Awo made a wonderful premier of western region but his inability to look beyond the Yorubas of Nigeria spelt catastrophe and doom for millions of others. This was particularly evident with being shown the evidence of the consequences of the starvation as a legitimate weapon of war. this disastrous genocidal policy was implemented till the very end of the war. Awo is often described as the finance minister who managed fiscal discipline of the Nigerian treasury and left the office with books balanced. Well when you take into consideration the expropriation of an entire region, it is difficult to see how the books will not balance , there was huge revenue from the acquisition of the Biafra pound , there was huge revenue from naira accounts in all parts of Nigeria which Biafra’s had left behind when they fled. There was off course the oil boom which began in that time.

In the campaign in the elections of the second republic, Awo attempted to campaign in the east but turned back after threats by die hards that he sets foot on Igbo soil, they would kill him. He contested that election without even a single campaign in the east.

Apparently, the Igbos civil servants who never recovered the jobs they lost after being displaced permanently by the qualified Yorubas during the civil war had not forgotten him. Indeed most of them had gone into commerce as a way to survive. The Igbo traders who had lost all their pre war capital were not very happy either.

Awo never showed any regret for the actions he carried out and did not apologise it

Today, Awo has reached demi god status in Yoruba land, he is so deified that the role he played in the crisis with Akintola that ultimately led to the loss of 3 million Igbo lives is glossed over.

Yoruba land is yet to see another leader as dedicated to their collective cause as Awo. But the truth is that Awo’s kind of politics is a Nigerian tragedy.

[salford]

Sob, sob, sob. This is so heart wrenching. Please cry me up a river

[Auspicious]

Hi, Salford!

Here goes:

(Inhales a deeeeep gulp of air and releases)



Hnwaaaaaaaaah! HNWAAAAAAAAAANH!!!!

(Rolling back and forth on the floor and tearing my hair out)

NHWAAAAAAANH! AYE MI OOOOOO! MY LIFE! MY LIFE!

(I stand up and slam myself on the terrazo floor..)

HNWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAADAAAAANH!!!!!!

Somebody shoot me! SHOOT ME, I SAY!

(I continue to cry, hoping that if I cry loud and long enough, somebody will throw me a Pacifier to suckle on..)

Auspicious.

[Celticologist]

Sob, sob, sob. This is so heart wrenching. Please cry me up a river

But....how do you cry up a river?. River never flows up does it?. It should have been "cry me down a river". Even the tears that will generate that river can only roll downwards on the cheeks....not upwards.

(sigh)!...I am tired of having to simplify extremely complex science like these. I shall have to forward you an invoice for my time.

[tonsoyo]

There is no way for us to know whether this sis your own work or plagiarized somewhere, since you did not put a quote.

But OK we have heard you. But I say how sweet was "Awo's tragedy" I love it! I love it! I love it! and to you I say boooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Son of the Delta]

Obafemi Awolowo was one of Gowon`s worst mistakes. It is unfortunate that a man like Awolowo could not serve in a higher capacity.He is a local champ and will remain one.

A great man is a man that will be able to perform outstandingly when given higher or greater responsibilities.Awolowo could not in anyway perform in higher office which makes him a geo-politician.He was never a statesman because he was prone to causing uncalled for division and conflicts all over Nigeria.

1.He was the architect of the Warri crisis.
2.He was the brain behind the 20 pound policy which also affected people who fought on the Federal side.
3.In a nutshell Awolowo is the father of tribalism and mediocrity in Nigeria.

If it were not people like him Nigeria would have been a better place.

[Son of the Delta]

Obafemi Awolowo the finance minister



Today, Awo has reached demi god status in Yoruba land, he is so deified that the role he played in the crisis with Akintola that ultimately led to the loss of 3 million Igbo lives is glossed over.

Yoruba land is yet to see another leader as dedicated to their collective cause as Awo. But the truth is that Awo’s kind of politics is a Nigerian tragedy.

@ Nero Africanus,

Awolowo has got a lot in common with his kinsman Olusegun Obasanjo.Both carried out economic policies that were delibrately programmed to destroy other groups in Nigeria.

From Awolowo`s scrapping of 50 per cent derivation,20 pounds policy to Obasanjo bank recapitalization, land use decree,importation ban policy all were done in a bid to destroy others.

IN essence Awo is OBJ and vice versa.They`ve got a lot in common.Both are known ethnophobes.

[Enforcer]

nero africanus,

I tend to read your post and take the content as given. But this one leaves me with some posers. If all you have said is true, why did Ojukwu refer to Awo as the best president Nigerian never had?

The second point is that during Gowon regime, all decisions were fully discussed and agreed to by the Supreme Military Council, why is this particular policy decision attributed to Awo?

Another point I need to comment on is that Biafra currency was worthless once the war was over. I also doubt if it ever had international convertibility at any point because the Republic of Biafra was not recognised by the international community.

Please I am eagerly waiting for your reply to these questions.

[Auspicious]

It was Odumegwu Ojukwu who released Awo from prison in Calabar who said that he had some discussions and agreements with Awo but apparently Awo had the Yoruba situation under review all the time. This was why he said he would never say anything bad about him(awo), for Awo everything was about the Yorubas.

And? Your point? Would you rather it be about the Hausas, the Igbos or Itsekiri or Ijaw when the contraption bestowed upon yourself and I by Lugard and Company was founded upon injustice? Or, would you rather that the now departed Obafemi Oyeniyi Awolowo devoted his life to 'uniting' Nigeria in the style of Sunday Awoniyi, Olusola Saraki et al, by bowing to the Northern Oligarchy under whose boot our Namespace groaned for the longest time since the Colonial Overlords handed them their 'birthright' ab-initio?

The Yoruba have a saying that goes "T'ina ba n jo ara eni, ti ara eni laa n ko gbon!" - meaning, "When Buddy is being burnt in a Conflagration, your first obligation is to douse the Conflagration burning your Body" (Gosh, I love the way Yorubas rhyme their proverbs sha!). No sane person would, for example, judge Odimegwu Ojukwu for threatening secession after his people were at the mercy of some bloodthirsty people allegedly on a mission to 'avenge' the loss of their local leaders at the hands of a handful of coupist on the Ndi-Igbo.

Lt. Col Emeka Ojukwu's first obligation, for example, was to his people and he did what he thought right to do! And most people understood that fact - even if some of them had their differences about the execution and prosecution of the aftermath war. Now, imagine if after Ojukwu's death several years from now, someone begins making insinuations about his kind of 'tribalism' - that he only cared about the Igbos alone. Won't such person be subjected to being ridiculed for his 'genius'? Of course, that would be some great comedy of error of africanus proportion ke!

Awo himself said that Nigerian was a mere geographical expression, he did not for one day believe in it and went along with the Nigerian idea for convenience. This will be seen how was actively in support of the break up of the old western region which saw the creation of an ethnically pure western region and mid west region...

And is there any untruth in that statement about Nigeria being a "mere geographical expression" held together by nothing more than the 'almighty' black oil which has brought upon us all, from the North to the South and the East to the West, all evils and curses of imaginable proportions of which corruption happens to be the biggest of them all?

When that man (God rest his soul), amongst others like him, called for independence from the British Imperialists and some (especially in the North) were lukewarm towards the idea, he was amongst the first to ask for regional autonomy for his people, and that sort of added more impetus to the quest for same privilege amongst others, leading up to the negotiation of a complete independence from the British in 1960.

For a commentator to now highlight such move by him as a negative thing is, to say the least, laughable. What does "ethnically pure" mean? Could this commentator in quotes here be insinuating that the man was "racist"? Well, everyone to his beliefs..but we must let people know, that Obafemi Awolowo understood that he had NO direct obligation to the then "geographical entity" called Nigeria and that is very understandable.

This is not to say that there was no agitation by the minorities in the old western region for the creation of what later became Bendel state. There was agitation in every region including east and north and up till this day there is still agitation for creation of new states, in spite of the fact that most of the states as they are today are not viable. In the north there was agitation particularly among the present day Benue state which led to the Nigerian army being sent there to put down a rebellion by the Tivs. In the east there was agitation for new states which was called COR Calabar – Ogoja - Rivers movement...

Every Man Has got A Right to Decide..

His Own Destiny!

And in that judgement there is..

No Partiality!

Observers of the time all seem to agree on the intelligence of Awo. This singular fact was never in doubt. Awo’s paramount interest of the Yoruba pure and simple, everything and everybody else did not matter. This could be seen in the tactical strategy that was his master strokes. Having the interest of the Yoruba as the most important thing is not bad in itself, if you are the premier of the western region, but it horribly backfires if you are finance minister of the federal republic. It turns what normally is supposed to be a good man into a horrible monster...

Qualifying "having the interest" of your people at heart as "not bad in itself" is a big gaffe. Rather, "having the interest" of your people is what people should live for! And Obafemi Awolowo lived for it throughout his life. It is therefore NO surprise, that his people literarily viewed him as a "demigod" in life and in death. To date, Yoruba politicians (including the good, the bad and the ugly) all try to use his name to win the hearts and minds of their people. Of course, we all know why. What boggles the mind, however, is how a good man turned "horrible monster" in some eyes.

The Nigerian army in its slow advance into the Igbo heart land took no prisoners, they committed such grievous atrocities that the civilians retreated before the Biafra army. The consequence of this was that in the Nigerian army advance, they almost always encountered ghost towns. The federal executive council was aware of this and the idea of the use of starvation as a weapon was brought by Awolowo. Questioned about this in an interview in 1969, he responded that the idea was to being a speedy end to the war. The human cost of that singular policy is still being felt in the demographics of Igbo land.

My prayer is, may yourself, myself and our loved ones NEVER experience that terrible thing called War. Let NOBODY here dare allege that I am justifying the brutalities that happen in war situations, for I will pummel such person's head with some home truth about his sanity. But let the truth be told: I can bet you that were Biafra in charge of commercial sea and air ports where food, medical supplies et al were to enter the land, hardly would those supplies ever reach their intended destination on the enemy side! Okey Ndibe told us here on NVS, how Biafran Soldiers sold relief food and kept the money..and when his father protested it, what did they do? THEY LOCKED HIM UP!!!

And that is the evil of war - the reason why, before resorting to war, leaders need to kneel in prayers and supplication to God for guidance; leaders need to think very, very deeply about the consequences of their eventual decision and reach to their inner conscience and ask themselves, if they think they can win that war and if they think the end will justify the means..if (and this is the most important) they think they can effect the outcome they desire through another means that will not inflict upon their dearly beloved fellow citizens, further pain and agony than already endured.

However the problem was that awo was not interested on one Nigeria as an idea, he was only interested in the welfare of the Yoruba even that the mortal expense of others...

In this days when hardly can anyone find such virtues in many of those who call themselves leaders in our namespace, this commentator keeps harping on the issue of a man's extremely strong interest in the welfare of his Yoruba people as if it is a bad thing. I call that very, very abonormal. Heaven knows, that our ethnic societies will be much better for it, were our leaders to care about us than go aboout deluding themselves about their fake alleigance to something founded upon and sustained by crass injustice and greed.

The nature of the way Igbos fled other parts of Nigeria to the east meant that bank accounts, assets and every other thing was left behind. upon the end of the war, All Igbos no matter how much they had left behind, this was simply expropriated by the Nigerian state in return they were given only 20 pounds. This particularly vicious and vindictive robbery was again Awo’s idea...

I wonder which of the two charges in quotes above was "Awo's Idea". Is it [1] The expropiation of funds of Igbos who "fled" the West et al for their native East after their leader had announced for them to return to begin a new life in their homeland, or, [2] The idea to distribute E20 to each Igbo man and woman? I wonder which of those two "vicious and vindictive robbery" was conceived by Awo. What more, I am at a loss to imagine what grouse Awolowo had anyways, enough for him to adopt a "vindictive" approach to NdiIgbo.

So badly hit were merchants and trader families. Also badly hit were civil servants who fled to the east before the last salaries were paid. The Biafra pound was a freely converting currency that exchanged on the world Market. Awo appropriated this for the Nigerian state and in return gave 20 pounds..

Questions, Questions and more Questions. This appropriation, did it involve the government looking into the bank account of every Igbo man and woman, to find names that appear Igbo-like to the scrutinized and subsequently expropiated on confirming the Igboness of the holder? I wonder. I also wonder if all these allegations were made up by people who emerged to hate the very guts of Obafemi Awolowo for not acting in a manner expected (rather than "requested") of him after war was declared, for the main man who lead the rebellion himself has nothing but respectful words for the late Awolowo.

The effect was so economically devastating that at the time people did not foresee any recovery; in the whole of Igbo land nobody had more than 20 pounds. The recovery was very slowing torturous and painful. my grand father made the journey to Lagos where he was based before the war refusing to believe that his business capital he had left in the bank before the war had been taken by awo, he went to his bank in Lagos where he was told that his account was marked Biafra account like others and had been seized by the government. The man returned to his village where he died 6 moths later, the war didn’t kill him, Awo did..

I am sorry about your grand-father's story. But isn't it rather absurd to say Awo took his money when you can't even prove it with a single written edict to the effect that Obafemi Awolowo, as the then national finance minister, concieved and executed that policy of expropiating the funds of private citizens where such occured? I also remember that in places like Mussolini's Italy and Hitler's Germany after the second world war, people hauled worthless currency about in wheel-barrowns, dying daily from the aftermath of war. Can we draw any inferences from this instances of war?

In the light of all these, Awo brought up another wonderful plan to indigenise and nationalise foreign companies in Nigeria. This was at a time when the average Igbo man had 20 pounds. The north had always economically backward compared with the south, the effect was that Yoruba as direct consequences of Awo’s action purchased corporate Nigeria in that nationalisation act. This lopsidedness is still being felt even today almost 40 years later. The biggest coup of them all was the replacement of the Igbo public servant by the Yoruba public servant. This can still be seen today in Nitel and other public utilities which still have predominantly Yoruba staff...

Wow. Awo did all these? Wait, was he the President? He must have been the President - and a military one at that - to have so much clout to singlehandedly effect coups upon coups to the benefit of the Yoruba people alone. So powerful was he, that the effect of his 'coup' is still being felt everywhere "today", from NITEL to NEPA and NIPOST. Other than that, Obafemi Awolowo must have 'jazzed' (used juju on) everyone else in the national executive council to effect this sweeping take-overs to the benefit of his people alone - right under their noses! Chei! Na wa O!

Indeed Soyinka alluded to this in his book “the man died”, when he described that with the purging of the Igbos and the civil war. There were vast promotions and recruitments to replace the existing gaps the north could not benefit in this in any way not having the trained manpower required...

Wait, here's what this commentator is telling this audience, that Nobel Laureate Wole Soyinka said "In order to effect vast promotions and recruitments amongst the Yorubas (since the North didn't have trained manpower anyways), Awo encouraged or planned (chooze ya pick) the purging of the Igbos through the civil war and through firing them from their jobs". And, at this point I am saying, this is how these stories are usually concieved and propagated for the consumption of people who are dying for a reason to vent their spleen on others.

Awo made a wonderful premier of western region but his inability to look beyond the Yorubas of Nigeria spelt catastrophe and doom for millions of others. This was particularly evident with being shown the evidence of the consequences of the starvation as a legitimate weapon of war...

I wonder how people will feel about this: "Ojukwu made a wonderful oratorical emancipator and champion of the Ndi-Igbo but his inability to look closer at the cost of war spelt doom for millions of dead people on both sides of the Nigerian Civil War. This is particularly evident with his insistence on fighting that war and risk loosing millions more people to the amount already lost plus, his stepping outside the boundaries of his enclave to capture more territories". NB: The above quote comes after 'Ojukwu' had been branded a "vicious and vindictive robber" o.

Awo is often described as the finance minister who managed fiscal discipline of the Nigerian treasury and left the office with books balanced. Well when you take into consideration the expropriation of an entire region, it is difficult to see how the books will not balance , there was huge revenue from the acquisition of the Biafra pound , there was huge revenue from naira accounts in all parts of Nigeria which Biafra’s had left behind when they fled. There was off course the oil boom which began in that time..

Very funny analogy shows the desperation to give the man a bad name by any means possible. Whereas, despite the huge oil windfalls the Nigerian nation has seen over the years, the books have never been balanced since time "Imo River". It goes to tell you that expropiation or no expropiation, if the books weren't gonna be balanced, they weren't gonna be balanced! It also goes to say, the books of the then finance ministry under Obafemi Awolowo's watch was balanced simply because a prudent and honest man was in charge!

In the campaign in the elections of the second republic, Awo attempted to campaign in the east but turned back after threats by die hards that he sets foot on Igbo soil, they would kill him. He contested that election without even a single campaign in the east...

So, how does that proof anything order than the fact that bad news - fake news - spread faster than good news - that it is easier to destroy a good man's name than to make his name; that it is easier to hate a man who was not the robot that people thought he'd be simply because the leader of a justified rebellion released him from jail? Of course, it is expected that he'd be loathed for caring about his people enough not to throw them into war because the young Colonel who released him sometime ago did the same - or because he opened the gates and let him walk free..

Apparently, the Igbos civil servants who never recovered the jobs they lost after being displaced permanently by the qualified Yoruba during the civil war had not forgotten him. Indeed most of them had gone into commerce as a way to survive. The Igbo traders who had lost all their pre war capital were not very happy either...

Hey, people pick-up made-up stories all the time and go on to hate others for it too - without bothering to verifying the truth. Another one may read you here now and pray for Awo to rot in hell - simply because he happened to stumble by some unverified and unsubstantiated neropolitikal talk on NVS. It is not unusual that we see such type of persons everywhere..

Awo never showed any regret for the actions he carried out and did not apologise it..

Why would anyone go around apologizing for what he didn't do?

Today, Awo has reached demi god status in Yoruba land, he is so deified that the role he played in the crisis with Akintola that ultimately led to the loss of 3 million Igbo lives is glossed over...

Oh, here we go again. And I thought the criminalization was over. Now is Awo Vs. Akintola, with Akintola being the innocent guy and Awo being the evil genius who masterplanned the death of 3 million Igbos so that Yoruba may reign supreme. I bow!

Yoruba land is yet to see another leader as dedicated to their collective cause as Awo. But the truth is that Awo’s kind of politics is a Nigerian tragedy.

Ah, we forgot to flop - sorry.., I mean REMIND this audience again, that Awo was also "vindictive, vicious robber".

Auspicious.

[nero africanus]

nero africanus,

I tend to read your post and take the content as given. But this one leaves me with some posers. If all you have said is true, why did Ojukwu refer to Awo as the best president Nigerian never had?

the same ojukwu that returned awo 's 20 pounds at the mausoleum after his death

everything is not what it seems , enforcer,

awo would have been more intellligent than shagari that is not in doubt , shagari was weak and not in control . his economics was not sound as well

The second point is that during Gowon regime, all decisions were fully discussed and agreed to by the Supreme Military Council, why is this particular policy decision attributed to Awo?

why is the annulment of june 12 in particular attributed to ibb? awo was more intelligent that gowon and the rest of the soldiers that were masquarading as the smc. if you remember he offered zik a deal where he wanted to finance minister in an ag - ncnc alliance , awo had a very sound understanding of economics, strategy and policy. this can be seen in all those funny taxes he deviced to pay for the free education scheme in the western region. awo was the brain behind the gowon govt for many years

Another point I need to comment on is that Biafra currency was worthless once the war was over. I also doubt if it ever had international convertibility at any point because the Republic of Biafra was not recognized by the international community.

Please I am eagerly waiting for your reply to these questions.

every currency exchanges in the world market depending on what forms the basis of the currency , so if the currency is backed by a gold standard it will trade anywhere in the world as it is only a receipt for the gold even with the collapse of biafra, the biafran currency was the legal tender , indeed throughout the war biafran pounds and nigerian naira were changing hands regularly before being converted to a western currency. that was how the term " attack market " came up. trade between business minded Nigerian soldiers mainly non combat troops and medical staff and biafran women. awo had the option of just exchanging the biafran currency for what it was worth at the time of exchange. what ever formed its basis still existed. you see so we cant be talking about worthlessness then everybody still used the gold standard for their currency. a currency can only become worthless if the basis of the currency is taken away.

[Auspicious]

the same ojukwu that returned awo 's 20 pounds at the mausoleum after his death..everything is not what it seems , enforcer..

So? How does that mean anything? At least Ojukwu respected the man Awolowo enough to come pay his respects to him at his mausoleum - that also says a lot about the man who may have had more reason to loathe the dead man than others out there - like the people whose thoughts of the dead man is captured best with words like "vindictive", "vicious" and "robber".

awo would have been more intellligent than shagari that is not in doubt , shagari was weak and not in control . his economics was not sound as well..

Hehehehehehehehe!

What an appropriate comparison!

Shagari ati Awo; Poundy and Gaari

BRILLIANT!

why is the annulment of june 12 in particular attributed to ibb?

DUH! Cuz he was the "President and Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of the Federal Republic of Nigeria", of course!

awo was more intelligent that gowon and the rest of the soldiers that were masquarading as the smc. if you remember he offered zik a deal where he wanted to finance minister in an ag - ncnc alliance , awo had a very sound understanding of economics, strategy and policy. this can be seen in all those funny taxes he deviced to pay for the free education scheme in the western region. awo was the brain behind the gowon govt for many years..

Here's where Auspicious plays HBO's Bill Maher:

NEW RULES! Henceforth, the most intelligent man around shall be held liable wherever or whenever two or three (or more) people are present in a situation where some alleged sin has been found. :

every currency exchanges in the world market depending on what forms the basis of the currency , so if the currency is backed by a gold standard it will trade anywhere in the world as it is only a receipt for the gold even with the collapse of biafra, the biafran currency was the legal tender , indeed throughout the war biafran pounds and nigerian naira were changing hands regularly before being converted to a western currency. that was how the term " attack market " came up. trade between business minded Nigerian soldiers mainly non combat troops and medical staff and biafran women. awo had the option of just exchanging the biafran currency for what it was worth at the time of exchange. what ever formed its basis still existed. you see so we cant be talking about worthlessness then everybody still used the gold standard for their currency. a currency can only become worthless if the basis of the currency is taken away.

DzzzZZZzZZZZzzDzzzzZzZzzZzzZz...! (Wake up, Auspicious!)

Auspicious.

[Enforcer]

every currency exchanges in the world market depending on what forms the basis of the currency , so if the currency is backed by a gold standard it will trade anywhere in the world as it is only a receipt for the gold even with the collapse of biafra, the biafran currency was the legal tender , indeed throughout the war biafran pounds and nigerian naira were changing hands regularly before being converted to a western currency. that was how the term " attack market " came up. trade between business minded Nigerian soldiers mainly non combat troops and medical staff and biafran women. awo had the option of just exchanging the biafran currency for what it was worth at the time of exchange. what ever formed its basis still existed. you see so we cant be talking about worthlessness then everybody still used the gold standard for their currency. a currency can only become worthless if the basis of the currency is taken away.

nero africanus,

Sorry, explain that part in bold again. The Nigeria Naira was introduced in 1973....three years after the war.

[Auspicious]

Suspy: You see why I tol' yu to pay attention? I bet you didn't see that one.

Auspy: Honestly, I doesn't.

Suspy: Huh?

Auspy: I mean, I didn't.

Suspy: Oh..ok. SO watchdjyathink?

Auspy: Dunno. What should I think?

Suspy: Dunno. What do you think I think you should think?

Auspy: Dunno. What do you think I think you I think you should think.

Suspy: Agbaya ni e.

Auspy: You too are an Agbaya.

Both laugh - Bwaahahaahahahahaaha!

Auspicious le Soliloquizone.

Zuzpizious.

[bob]

i tend to read your post and take the content as given. But this one leaves me with some posers. If all you have said is true, why did Ojukwu refer to Awo as the best president Nigerian never had?

read that as : the best president nigeria NEVER had.
i guess ojukwu was making a play at awo's ambition to rule nigeria, even for a day.

[Son of the Delta]

read that as : the best president nigeria NEVER had.
i guess ojukwu was making a play at awo's ambition to rule nigeria, even for a day.

Everyone had problems with the man called Awolowo. He was a tribalist of no mean stature and so I dont see anyone in his right state of mind praising him. I personally have my reservations when it comes to Ojukwu but he deserves to dislike Awolowo.

Awolowo stood for evil. He was evil to non-Yorubas in a multi-ethnic society which is very bad.

[Son of the Delta]

Auspicious,Tonsoyo and company,

There ia a saying that: Instead akrokro(Awolowo) enter covment(government) Carabar(Calabar)man enter crave(grave) die!

For the militants in the creeks Awolowo is regarded as the only devil they have ever known.(Another Yoruba called Olusegun Obasanjo seems to be his 2ic when is comes to devilishness).

And then this is what an Uroboho Army general had to say a bout your beloved Awolowo.

To say the truth I am beginning to believe that most of you are as evil as Obafemi Awolowo.

Federal Government of Nigeria and Niger Delta Problems

By David Ejoor
Governor of Midwest Region of Nigeria, 1966-67,
and Chief of Staff, Nigerian Army 1972-1975

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Culled from:
THE GUARDIAN
CONSCIENCE, NURTURED BY TRUTH
LAGOS, NIGERIA. Tuesday, September 16 2003

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THE problems in the Niger Delta stem from the policies and implementation of Federal Government political iniquities:

The PDP continues to operate a unitary system of government instead of a Federal Government.
The continuation of a Military Government not supported by the Nigerian Armed Forces but by private political armies.
Present political activities have changed from politics of conscienceous to politics of money and assassination. If a politician fails to raise enough money to win, he assassinates the winning opponents.
The continued implementation of the Land Use Decree to oppress states that have oil and protecting other states in the North and West that have rich solid minerals.
The Federal Government's activities indicate that oil producing areas are just colonies to be exploited as a result of the Land Use Decree. The Federal Government of Nigeria in the Niger Delta instigates fighting to ensure Federal Government exploitation to prevent concerted demand from the people of the area. Hence today the true Delta State comprising the Old Delta province has not been created and Warri remains the only provincial capital of colonial times that is not a capital of a state. Anioma was excised from Benin Province and turned into a state but it is called Delta State with capital at Asaba. Delta State has not yet been created.

The Federal Government has supported the Olu of Warri over the ages to establish discriminatory institutions in Warri since 1950 when he moved from Ode Itsekiri in Escravos to Warri. The Federal Government supports the determination of the Olu who is actually a descendant of one exiled Benin Prince to establish a domain in Warri to compare with Benin Kingdom. The reaction of Urhobo and Ijaw led to the change of Warri Province to Delta Province, when Awolowo changed the title of Olu of Itsekiri to Olu of Warri Province to become the only traditional ruler in Warri province. The Itsekiri language is an Ilaje dialect. The titles of Olu and Atuwese were given at Ilaje in Ijebu before arrival in Warri. If Dasuki who was exiled from Sokoto to Taraba State, was allowed to stay in Taraba State a similar Warri situation would have been created.

Warri is a small area established in 1926 as a result of a Privy Council decision in London before the arrival of the Itsekiris in the area. Warri was a crown land for British administration in Warri Province, later Delta Province. Awolowo later extended the boundary of Warri township to include the owners of the land i.e. Agbasa and Igbudu people who were made to pay ground rent to the Olu in 1952. The situation was restored in 1966 by the Midwestern Region Military Governor. The land Awolowo gave to the Olu was claimed back by the traditional owners through a court action. The original founders of Warri, that is the Urhobos and Ijaws, now own their lands in Warri legally.

The local governments around Warri town are called Warri North Local Government Area, Warri South Local Government Area and Warri South-West Local Government Area. The Olu claims control of these three LGAs because of the name Warri attached to them. Hence the Olu connives with the oil companies to collect money and gratifications offered by the oil companies operating in the three LGAs without recourse to Ijaws who own the land in the riverine areas between Warri and Escravos. Urhobos and Ijaws are not employed in the Local Government. The Federal Government tells the Ijaws that the land and the minerals, that is oil, belong to the federal government but yet allows only the Olu to reap all the benefits from the oil companies. The neglected Ijaw and Urbobo youths in the area are not employed by the oil companies. The oil companies employ only Itsekiri, Ibo and Yoruba youths mainly through the advice of the Olu.

The neglected youths who can no longer be assisted by their fathers have since discovered that they have to fight for their existence. The arms given to them by the politicians who have now ignored them after election are now being used for armed robbery, under the cover of the purported Warri problem. The ruling Peoples Democratic Party does not support the idea of a democratic government. Hence, it interferes with Local Government administration so as to continue with its unitary system of government.

From the above, you can deduct that the problems of Warri are caused by the Federal and State Governments through their support for the Olu to oppress the original owners of the land and to rubbish the sanity of the area with activities of the politically armed rebellious youth.

However, the problems can be addressed through a sober consideration of the following measures:

Three local governments should be created in Warri, and they should bear Itsekiri, Ijaw and Urhobo names. The name Warri should not be used at all.
Government should help the people solve their problems by providing money and employment.
The local government boundaries should be made clear to the oil companies so that compensation should go to the rightful owners of the oil fields to prevent the Olu from claiming money belonging to Ijaw people.
When this is done, the Ijaw youth will stop molesting the oil companies who will stop relocating their offices and activities from Warri to other areas in the South-South.
The concentration of military personnel in Warri town is merely a cover for government personnel and dubious oil companies to steal crude oil in the riverine areas. All troops except the Batallion station in Effurun should be removed.
The area boys should be gainfully employed to stop them from using their politically acquired arms for terrorising innocent people and stealing under the cover of Warri problems.

The Federal government should stop running a unitary type of government and stop interfering with local government administration. All monies meant for local government administration should go to the state governments for proper utilisation.
The Olu of Warri should revert to the original name of Olu of Itsekiri.

[denker]

...why did Ojukwu refer to Awo as the best president Nigerian never had?

the correctness of the quote above find its interpretation within contextualization of awo's love for his people -the yorubas. Dim meant to say a president with so much compassion for Nigerian -imagine nigeria having a president that would show much love for her...just like awo's love for his people(yorubas) -dats all. folks!

..now dat i have clarified dat....am outa here...!

[Auspicious]

the correctness of the quote above find its interpretation within contextualization of awo's love for his people -the yorubas. Dim meant to say a president with so much compassion for Nigerian -imagine nigeria having a president that would show much love for her...just like awo's love for his people(yorubas) -dats all. folks!

..now dat i have clarified dat....am outa here...!

Wow, Denker!

That was just sooooo....Genius of you! When next are you going to return to contextualize the audacity of the effrontery to exigenalize this gathering of a inexplicable audience with some dexteriously advantageous illumination of unquantifiable proportions?

Auspicious.

[Eja]

Wow, Denker!

That was just sooooo....Genius of you! When next are you going to return to contextualize the audacity of the effrontery to exigenalize this gathering of a inexplicable audience with some dexteriously advantageous illumination of unquantifiable proportions?

Auspicious.

my head! my head!! my poor frageel head!!

[Auspicious]

my head! my head!! my poor frageel head!!

Brotherman E!

Are you ok? Which wan u wan make ah call: 999 or 911 - or the two-both of them?

Auspicious.

[Eja]

Brotherman E!

Are you ok? Which wan u wan make ah call: 999 or 911 - or the two-both of them?

Auspicious.

Eh tank you ojare my buroda...no worry, ah don handcuff mysef to one woman wit coool palms already...but ah beg in future bifor you drop dis kain ting, warn us. Exposure to extreme grammar no be play O.

[WaleAkin]

Hi All,
I read/re-read/re-read/re-read and deciphered correctly the points being passed across but this is a food for thought:

Is Chief Odumegwu Ojukwu an acknowledged elder stateman within Nigeria context?

If he dies tommorow(We pray that he lives long), would he be given a state burial by the Nigerian government?

Cheers,
Wale

[Vaya Con Dios]

nero africanus,

I tend to read your post and take the content as given. But this one leaves me with some posers. If all you have said is true, why did Ojukwu refer to Awo as the best president Nigerian never had?

The second point is that during Gowon regime, all decisions were fully discussed and agreed to by the Supreme Military Council, why is this particular policy decision attributed to Awo?

Another point I need to comment on is that Biafra currency was worthless once the war was over. I also doubt if it ever had international convertibility at any point because the Republic of Biafra was not recognised by the international community.

Please I am eagerly waiting for your reply to these questions.

God bless you for asking those questions, my brother. I hope we would get some straight-forward, factual answers in return. Awolowo was many things, but I do not believe he was a tribalist. If he was one, he wouldn't have granted scholarships to all the Anioma people, who were part of the old Mid-western region, before that region was created. He would have reserved those scholarships, strictly for those from his own ethnic group.

Erm. . . . . by the way, how much gold was used to back up the Biafran pound? And in how many countries or states (outside the South-East) was the Biafran currency accepted as legal tender?

[.bebi]

Is Chief Odumegwu Ojukwu an acknowledged elder stateman within Nigeria context?

If he dies tommorow(We pray that he lives long), would he be given a state burial by the Nigerian government?

How necessary r these questions?
I used to avoid threads like this cos I thot people shld just let sleeping dogs lie but I now understand why they keep resurrecting Biafra.It is cos of some attitudes and insensitivities I am perceiving here.
Pple have diff rates of getting over things.My grandfather(maternal)was a very rich and important man.He lost all 5 of his homes in PH,shares in UAC,leventis and co,as well as petrol stations and was given just 20 pounds.No wonder the man died from a stroke some months after the war ended and following from that,his younger children suffered to get to where they r now.We thank God they made something out of the little they had.I dont know who's idea it was to give pple 20 pounds and frankly,I m grateful that my parents have since moved on from Biafra days but for those who r still bitter,I sincerely feel for them.All these underhand yabis r really not necessary.If biafran pound was not accepted anywhere else,so???

[Auspicious]

How necessary r these questions?
I used to avoid threads like this cos I thot people shld just let sleeping dogs lie but I now understand why they keep resurrecting Biafra. It is cos of some attitudes and insensitivities I am perceiving here.

Pple have diff rates of getting over things.My grandfather(maternal)was a very rich and important man.He lost all 5 of his homes in PH,shares in UAC,leventis and co,as well as petrol stations and was given just 20 pounds.No wonder the man died from a stroke some months after the war ended and following from that,his younger children suffered to get to where they r now.We thank God they made something out of the little they had.I dont know who's idea it was to give pple 20 pounds and frankly,I m grateful that my parents have since moved on from Biafra days but for those who r still bitter,I sincerely feel for them. All these underhand yabis r really not necessary.If biafran pound was not accepted anywhere else,so???

Hi, Bebi!

Perhaps yourself and others who share your sentiments as expressed above will be better served to ask those who exhibit their own version of "attitude and insensitivities" with exergerrated and unsubstantiated allegations to "let sleeping dogs lie". I say this because, the dogs were laying peacefully before others like the originator of this thread tried to attach to the person of another man's statesman (oh yeah, he was a statesman!), words like "vicious, vindictive and robbery".

It is often the case here on NVS, where a commentator has made near-offensive or outrightly offensive or, unsubstantiated remarks about what another man considers a treasure, prompting others to defend such treasures..only for a third party to arrive to protest that response by claiming victim with words like "attitudes and insensitivities". It makes one wonder, if the initial victim of the aforementioned initial unsubstantiated and insensitive comments, has any right to feel offended enough to defend that which he treasures.

It was right in this Village a few days ago, that a simple fun excercise at arriving at a local list of 100 Great Nigerians was singlehandedly derailed by one man's Neropolitiks, simply because the name of a widely respected Nigerian came up third on the very first shortlist. It so irked him, that not only did he begin to question our individual rights to have an opinion of whom a "great Nigerian" represents, but it also lead him to launch a completely new thread laden with unsubstantiated allegations about that late sage who is dearly beloved by his people.

And when people begin to react here by proving to him and his likes that, wether they like it or not, that man was a statesman, Bebi comes aboard to talk about people and their attitudes and insensitivities. I guess those of us who hold that man in reverence are immune to the attitudes and insensitivities of the people who called our dearly beloved Obafemi Awolowo a viciously vindictive robber. And I laugh. As I always said as it concerns these issues, people are better off staying off if they can't afford to be fair and balanced.

Auspicious.

[Felix]

Threads like this bring out the worst out of the worsts of Nigeria...When you go through peoples submissions here , you cant help but shudder at the thinking of hardcore tribalists who will start off by accsuing others of bieng bigots. Unrepentant bigots parading around as treu patriots..When men come together to defend a war criminal, a petty theif , a heartless and remorseless killer for the simple reason that he gave their fathers and mothers scholarships, you start to wonder wether you are dealing with fellow human beings or some mentally challenged babarians sprouting out of hell.

People are at liberty to choose who becomes their hero , but what they cant do is to beutify the brutality and primitivity of such an upstart for the simple reason that he became successfull in tribalising national politics . Next time you visit Nigeria, travell to good old Kano; uptill today, emblems of dreaded characters such as Osama and Abacha still adorn almost every commercial vehicle plying the streets of Kano inspite of the nauseating nature of these characters.. While foundamentalists in Kano praise these dangerous charcters, people elsewhere deride them for the destructions they brought to humanity yet when you take stock of both the quantity and quality of human life wasted as a result of the archaic ideologies propelling these charactes, Awolowo comes out worst.

The large hearted can look at the events, actions and utterances that led to the starvation to death of over 2 million people and find reasons to excuse certain characters but in Awolowo, you find the linchpin, the instigator the brain behind the mayhem. You can dare to forgive Gowon , afterall he was only 32 and was just a fresh military officer lacking both the political and diplomatic acumen to run a massive jungle as big as Nigeria. Adekule was barely 28, ditto murderous Murtala. But can you say the same of Awolowo? Here was an old man , reaching deep into an uncommon primordial hatred to waste the lives of millions of innocent women and children whose crime is simply being at the wrong place at the wrong time. A man who beleives in regionalism but actively supported the killing of millions while serving under a muderous regime just to sustain a unitary state. The originator of the first tribal party in the history of modern Nigeria.

When Awolowo , supported a government that shot down red cross planes , that was when he penned down his notorious name in despicable hall of infamy. When he joined Gowons rag-tag army to bomb both markets, civilan homes, churches, maternity wards and schools , that was when he became a hero for the mentally challenged. When he supported genocide and sided with pepetrators of progroms in his warped beleif that the only way he can stand above easterners was when he stands on top of them , Awolowo became a minus to humanity! He may have given the whole of Africa free education , it helps little! In supporting genocide, the first in modern Africa, Awolowo helped in no small measure to inculcate the "do or die" mentality that has finally ruined Nigeria and from which many dangerous regimes all over a totured Africa have learnt from.

It is therefore totally stunning to watch some group of fake patriots in this forum that boasts of members including victims of his infamous atrocities labour so hard to foul the healthy atmosphere here as they go about fighting their tribal wars all over the place while being the first to accuse others of tribalism! ...How can a Hitler be a hero of a sane man??? There are many heroic Yoruba men; the Ganis, The Soyinkas, The Felas, many too many to mention but surely not Awolowo. He brought free education ? Oh yes! Okpala did so without trying to exterminate a whole race...He biult a big university? ..very good but Zik did that without a whimper....When you support genocide and kill defenceless women and children all in a bid to achieve sectional political goals, your world view obviously becomes parochial and you become a hero only to the morally bankrupt! Awolowo is the worst thing that walked on the face of Lugards Nigeria! A huge shame to whatever you call civilisation!!!

[Auspicious]

Hi, Felix!

That was...BRILLIANT! A masterpiece!

Auspicious.

[Celticologist]

So....apparently, this one was opened to settle scores over the "100 greatest Nigerians" thread of now derailed memory. It "proverbly" is also designed to settle tribal scores for the Biafra/Ojukwu thread as well. What a petty thing to do!.

Isn't there some kind of NVS grieviance resolution (and compensation) process that the author of this thread should be seeking?. As in matured man resolution?.

[.bebi]

for a third party to arrive to protest that response by claiming victim with words like "attitudes and insensitivities".

Auspy,dont worry,I dont feel like a victim becos like I said earlier on,my parents have moved on from biafra and have even lived in Ibadan.Stemming from their moving on,I have no qualms with yoruba pple.I wasnt even referring to ur post if not I would have copied a part of it in my reply.I was responding to what I consider stupid questions asked by a villager who I respect.
It is my wish that we would all get along and forget about the past bt I guess for some(and they have a right to think so)thats a tall order.

p.s Ojukwu is a statesman to some but he is constantly yabbed here.U can always ignore pple if u think they r ranting/making noise.

[Enforcer]

This endless Biafra/Ojukwu versus Yoruba/Awolowo point scoring exercise does not amuse me.

I know what I like and dislike about Ojukwu and Awolowo. I know what I hate about the Nigerian civil war. You can never alter my feelings even if you write millions of pages about it. I have access to a well-equipped reference library. The Internet also provides a rich source of reference materials.

How do you expect me to take you seriously when you behave like a bunch of under-aged school kids?

[.bebi]

This endless Biafra/Ojukwu versus Yoruba/Awolowo point scoring exercise does not amuse me.

I know what I like and dislike about Ojukwu and Awolowo. I know what I hate about the Nigerian civil war. You can never alter my feelings even if you write millions of pages about it. I have access to a well-equipped reference library. The Internet also provides with a rich source of materials.

How do you expect me to take you seriously when you behave like a bunch of under-aged school kids?

Thank u!and none of them is a saint,no matter how much we try to paint them.

[Auspicious]

Auspy,dont worry,I dont feel like a victim becos like I said earlier on,my parents have moved on from biafra and have even lived in Ibadan.Stemming from their moving on,I have no qualms with yoruba pple.I wasnt even referring to ur post if not I would have copied a part of it in my reply.I was responding to what I consider stupid questions asked by a villager who I respect.
It is my wish that we would all get along and forget about the past bt I guess for some(and they have a right to think so)thats a tall order.

p.s Ojukwu is a statesman to some but he is constantly yabbed here.U can always ignore pple if u think they r ranting/making noise.

Hi, Bebi!

Trust me, I am not mad at you either..nor do I have any right to be mad at you for your expressing yourself here for that matter. I just happen to be one never to shy from saying it as I see it when I feel that the fairness and balance of an expressed opinion is questionable. And that is all I have done.

When I said you were claiming victim, I wasn't refering to your claiming victim as per Biafra; I was simply responding to your one-sided charge of "insensitivity and attitude" you have levied here against people who have simply responded to the reckless claims "viciousness and vindictiveness" made by the progenitor of this thread.

Talking about other people and their tall orders, would the originator of this thread be one of them? Also, it doesn't help one understand your position if in one moment, you are telling people here to learn how to be sensitive to the feelings of those who haven't gotten over the pains of an unfortunate war and in the next moment, you are talking of tall orders.

Anyways, some of us know you to be amongst the progressives in this Village - as in, you are NOT prone to stoking the embers of disaffection, intolerance, deep-seated animosity or indulging in a habit of pandering to conspiracy theories that some here have taken as an art form. I particularly recognize you and a few others here like that and I appreciate you all.

Auspicious.

[tonsoyo]

Auspicious,Tonsoyo and company,

There ia a saying that: Instead akrokro(Awolowo) enter covment(government) Carabar(Calabar)man enter crave(grave) die!

For the militants in the creeks Awolowo is regarded as the only devil they have ever known.(Another Yoruba called Olusegun Obasanjo seems to be his 2ic when is comes to devilishness).

And then this is what an Uroboho Army general had to say a bout your beloved Awolowo.

To say the truth I am beginning to believe that most of you are as evil as Obafemi Awolowo.

If Obafemi Awolowo was evil, I am glad to be evil!

[tonsoyo]

Chief Jeremiah Obafemi Awolowo the Federal Commissioner for Finance during the Nigerian Civil War took Nigeria through three and a half years of civil war without borrowing a penny from anybody. Even America the greatest is heavily indebted to China for their four years war (so far) in Iraq.

Even though the country was just smarting from the destructions that occasioned the Civil War, Chief Jeremiah Obafemi Awolowo MAGNANIMOUSLY recommended that cash should be paid to the people of that part of the country that lost more during the war. This was UNPRECENDENTED.

GOD BLESS THE MEMORY OF CHIEF JEREMIAH OBAFEMI AWOLOWO (1909 - 1987)

"The Best President Nigeria Never Had" Chief Dim Emeka Ojukwu - The Eze Gburugburu of Entire Ndigbo Land

[nero africanus]

"The Best President Nigeria Never Had" Chief Dim Emeka Ojukwu - The Eze Gburugburu of Entire Ndigbo Land

oyibo bu agbala , so says a certain uneducated igbo man

what does the above statement mean really...........................

perhaps we shall never know or we shall always interpret it how we deem fit .................

[Son of the Delta]

If Obafemi Awolowo was evil, I am glad to be evil!

Nobody is denying you your choice to be evil but it is wrong for you to force to me to accept Awo shouls also be my hero, if we are told he was good to the Yoruba people it is quite acceptable but not when he sets up a crisis that is engulfing the whole Warri and he sets the corner stone for apathy between former easterners and the rest of the nation. I hope you also know that he was also a leading player in the events that made the western delta agitate for the mid-western region. He is a tribal lord and he should be remembered for that not to pushed into my face as a hero of the entire Country. that one na lie. Any way Tonsoyo you have shown the Awo in you on a number of occassions like the parking lot stuff so it is not news. goodluck happy new year.

[Auspicious]

Nobody is denying you your choice to be evil but it is wrong for you to force to me to accept Awo shouls also be my hero..

Nna, Son!

Norbodi talk say make yu make am ya hero naw.

Shoooo..!

Wish kain tin be dis?

Di kain Congo wey Tonsoyo dey Chop nor be di kain wey yu like.

Abi I lie?

(Noo!)

Auspicious.

[.bebi]

Also, it doesn't help one understand your position if in one moment, you are telling people here to learn how to be sensitive to the feelings of those who haven't gotten over the pains of an unfortunate war and in the next moment, you are talking of tall orders.

R they mutually exclusive?My position is simple.Make people no dey yab each other's heros,pasts and sorrows!

[Auspicious]

R they mutually exclusive?My position is simple.Make people no dey yab each other's heros,pasts and sorrows!

Simplicita!

Alas, on both sides, we witness the opposite.

Auspicious.

[.bebi]

Bia Auspy,good nite.I know say I dey roast this christmas eve as I no go fit go anywhere becos say I dey work tomorrow.
We go yarn later