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  1. Feb 21, 2010 ,  06:42 AM #1
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    ...Read the full article.

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  2. Feb 21, 2010 ,  12:43 PM #2
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    Stop spreading false rumour. Last week, someone complained about Military postings. By all these, we are indirectly bringing the Military into the fray. Those who openly invited Abacha to force Shonekan's resignation lived to regret it. Can you please furnish President Jonathan the names of the soldiers you caught thinking of toppling his Govt?

    Although the 1999 constitution is dead, awaiting an undertaker, Jonathan holds the key. His non-performance is a direct invitation to Revolution and time is not in our favour. One lie told, requires ten to sustain. There is no provision for Presidency by declaration under the "Constitution". Jonathan had been a President in waiting for at least three months. There are no ifs or buts: its either he performs or goes the way of all illegal regimes.

    POINT OF CORRECTION: Nigeria had one or two successful Military Regimes. Sorry, you may hate to hear this: Murtala/Obasanjo Regime (1976-79) remains the best. The intervention was justified, changes were effected and power promptly returned to civilians. That you must concede to President Obasanjo.

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    I'd rather want to read your exposition on why / home the intervention was justified and how / why it was successful.

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  4. Feb 21, 2010 ,  06:50 PM #4
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    Hi, folks!

    Come to think about it: Prior to the 1st Nigerian Civil War (1967-1970), there was NO incident of armed robbery in the whole of the Federal Republic of Nigeria. Of course, the skills of premeditated (mis)application of violence, that drove the pioneer armed robbers in Nigeria into action, were obtained from their experiences in the 30-month spree of a culture of crass impunity, in which soldiers of the Nigerian army thrived at the war zones.

    Clearly, any inference that suggests, or conclusively correlates violent crimes in Nigeria with the evolution of the Nigerian armed forces since Lord Lugard, cannot be too far from being correct.

    The crux of my argument is that, from OBJ to the newest recruit in the Nigerian army, the essential personality attributes that they have in common is perfectly congruent with those of a pathological sadist who has learnt to luxuriate maximally in chaos, while deriving maximum satisfaction from their recognition as bullies, who pick and choose their victims.

    It is most revealing, as much as it is freightening, and amusing at the same time, to know that the Nigerian Military School, Zaria, the alma mater of the "new" so-called "elite" of Nigeria, was actually a world renown reformatory, and a sub-regional correctional centre for juvenile delinquents and similar troublesome young adults in Nigeria and beyond, in the 1940s, 1950s, and 1960s.

    You can apreciate when I insist that the only good Nigerian soldier or policeman is a DEAD one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abraxas View Post
    Hi, folks!

    Come to think about it: Prior to the 1st Nigerian Civil War (1967-1970), there was NO incident of armed robbery in the whole of the Federal Republic of Nigeria. Of course, the skills of premeditated (mis)application of violence, that drove the pioneer armed robbers in Nigeria into action, were obtained from their experiences in the 30-month spree of a culture of crass impunity, in which soldiers of the Nigerian army thrived at the war zones.

    Clearly, any inference that suggests, or conclusively correlates violent crimes in Nigeria with the evolution of the Nigerian armed forces since Lord Lugard, cannot be too far from being correct.


    The crux of my argument is that, from OBJ to the newest recruit in the Nigerian army, the essential personality attributes that they have in common is perfectly congruent with those of a pathological sadist who has learnt to luxuriate maximally in chaos, while deriving maximum satisfaction from their recognition as bullies, who pick and choose their victims.

    It is most revealing, as much as it is freightening, and amusing at the same time, to know that the Nigerian Military School, Zaria, the alma mater of the "new" so-called "elite" of Nigeria, was actually a world renown reformatory, and a sub-regional correctional centre for juvenile delinquents and similar troublesome young adults in Nigeria and beyond, in the 1940s, 1950s, and 1960s.


    You can apreciate when I insist that the only good Nigerian soldier or policeman is a DEAD one.

    Muchas gracias.

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    IMO thats a short-sighted thing to say, how ready are you to run towards bullets when the property you're trying to protect isn't yours(most especially when the same people you're trying to protect will still curse you later)...or to be posted away from your family and loved ones and still be paid peanuts and treated like crap?

    i'm not trying to exonerate anyone, but serving your country(in practically every field but politics) in nigeria is a thankless job, but there are still people that do it not because of gain, but because of honour(or whatever the reasons they have sha...). Comments like yours just serve to further entrench the idea that serving in the army and police should be left to the sub par human beings(as is the case now esp wrt the nigeria police) thus creating a cycle...

    someone created a thread just because her toddler said when he grows up, he'd like to join the nigeria police force. how shortsighted can people get? until nigerians start to see honour in such positions things wont change!

    yes i'm saying no amount of reforms can change...part of the problem is the way we nigerians see, think about and relate with these people, be they civil servants, soldiers et al.

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  6. Feb 21, 2010 ,  11:34 PM #6
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    In Nigeria, the military has never accepted the concept of responsibility, let alone rights. It has never cared about democracy or human rights, let alone the rule of law. It has often preferred to be accepted above these “minor” issues while it settled in as an army of occupation with the license to silence and pollute and grab.
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    The road ahead is clear. I advise any soldier dreaming of a military comeback to keep it within his video games. But if he decides to come out shooting, he had better be prepared to kill by the truckload, beginning with the layers of military parasites of the past generation.
    Past commercial coups have turned Nigeria army into a corp of ME-GUARDS whose job is to keep Nigeria masses in check (ask Fela, Gani, Wiwa e.t.c) while the generals loot the treasury.

    The only way of redemption for Nigeria Army (the only acceptable coup) is TOTAL EXTERMINATION of past military parasite, their civilian cronies and thorough purging of the army itself.

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    @ariteni "POINT OF CORRECTION: Nigeria had one or two successful Military Regimes. Sorry, you may hate to hear this: Murtala/Obasanjo Regime (1976-79) remains the best. The intervention was justified, changes were effected and power promptly returned to civilians. That you must concede to President Obasanjo." -ariteni

    I bet you must be landing from the outer space, rewind your history tape, or pick up a copy of Fela and his open messages about Obasanjo, and learn before you confuse the younger generations who denied them a future worth hoping for.
    I bet in the next 20 years, if God still allow the madness call Nigeria to continue -God Forbid-, you will be singing the same song that Obasanjo/Atiku was the best.
    C’mon wake up and smell coffee, pray for retentive memory, it is very important, at least to know who did what and when. There is Igbo saying that goes thus.. He who knows not where the rain starts beating him never know when it stops.
    Are you aware that Obasanjo is so sick that he repeated his evil of 1979 in 2007, just to make him look like 'indispensible'? Well the different then was that he gave the power to a school headmaster, but in 2007, with the anger that he was denied the 3 term, he punished the 'one Nigerians' with a lame and according to him, 'invalid' man, in other to make shallow minded ones compare the two and see him as the best.
    He is a sadist, but all indication shows that he is just fulfilling the book!

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