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Igbos should remain in their land and develop it and not basing in another man's land all the time,while theirs is foresting. If Nigeria desintegrates today, all their properties will become foreign.This time around , they might not get 2naira to start life afresh
Igbos should stop producing prodigal sons like Udenwa and Kalu who are running around northern political elites for importance, thereby betraying Igbo agenda of having the presidency.
Igbos have to work together with South- south to make sure that the presidency remain in the south, alternatively rally round a south-south candidate instead of being double standard or some selfishly looking for a vice president post.
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. It is also such that Ndigbo have continued to suffer the ridicule and indignation by the other tribes who accuse them of being megalomaniacs and addicted to power which traditional titles are wrongly supposed to confer on them,
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it serves our best interests to continue to maintain strong links with our tradition and past, which are largely envied by other tribes and nations.
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"Ridicule" and "envied" sound contradictory?
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| | | Re: .Igbo Worldview In The Global Context Uche:
If una dey look for Ndiigbo brotherhood, come to Washington, DC. Na so-so Oji River, today, Oji River tomorrow. I don go those parties tire with several donations to follow. Yeah the parties with about 400 people being called to the high table for the first 6 hours of the event so tey, by the time the party starts, it is time to end. Anyway, come to Washington, DC and see wit yua own eyes. If Ndiigbo dey any more stronger for dis side of the world, dat means to say, the next president of the United States go be an Igbo man.
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| Re: .Igbo Worldview In The Global Context I am beginning to feel that this Igbo topics are in our faces to say the least. For goodness sake, Igbos are not the only tribe in Nigeria.If naija no be am, make una do something. Enough of all this victim mentality. Every time, naija dey fear Igbo, naija hate Igbo, naija do this to Igbo, naija do that. Damn! this group of people form a nucleus of a whole. We all know say country bad and our leaders no dey lead well. It is becoming too repetitive, Igbos: fall in line or do something. Me i don talk my own.
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| Re: .Igbo Worldview In The Global Context And you talk am well well.
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| Re: .Igbo Worldview In The Global Context Ohanaeze threatens secession over 2007
By Emmanuel Nzomiwu, Special Correspondent, Enugu
Apex Igbo Socio-cultural organisation, Ohanaeze Ndigbo on Wednesday said it would subscribe to parting of ways by the component parts that make up the country rather than allow the North to produce the next President after President Olusegun Obasanjo bows out of office in 2007. The group stated this even as the Conference of South-East Governors re-stated its position on a President of Igbo extraction in 2007.
Secretary General of Ohanaeze, Col. Joe Achuzia, said this while receiving an Igbo Presidential aspirant, Emmanuel Obianagha, at the organisation’s secretariat in Enugu.
Achuzia, who noted that over 13 Igbo have written to Ohanaeze expressing their interest in the race, advised the North to forget about running for the Presidency in 2007 since they cannot get it after Obasanjo’s tenure.
He said: "I took up the Ohanaeze Secretary-General from my conviction that after Obasanjo, it will be the turn of the Igbo and with that spirit in me, there is no going back."
"[B]Those who are against us don’t have vision[/B]. They cannot read the handwriting on the wall. My interpretation of the handwriting on the wall is that come what may it must be the turn of Ndigbo. The North will get nothing. If we Ndigbo cannot get it, to your tents O Israel" he warned. He denied ever ruling the South-East governors from the race as reported in some national dailies saying that every Igbo has the right to aspire to any political office in the country including Presidency.
Achuzia said it would be two early to reveal the names of Igbo politicians who have written the secretariat expressing interest in the race for strategic reasons adding that Ohanaeze owes it a duty to support any Igbo who wants to represent them in any capacity.
He, however, reminded the aspirants that the Ohanaeze can only support them when they have been nominated by their parties, adding that the issue of adopting a consensus candidate can only be considered when the parties have concluded their nominations.
"We don’t want anybody going for Vice President. Anybody wishing to do so should not come to Ohanaeze. Let him go for the Yorubaman to pick him. Let him go for the Hausaman to pick him. For us in Ohanaeze, we want nothing less than the Presidency." |
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| Re: .Igbo Worldview In The Global Context Pussypussy, Justcallmedad and Bababoyz, abeg if you guys are tired of hearing about Ndiigbo and their people, why don't you people write articles about your own tribes so we can read, eh? Why the envy and hate? Abeg leave us who like to read about Ndiigbo and it's beautiful but little understood people.
Let your tribes dare to mystify us with their uniqueness like the Igbos!
Thank you for this article ojare Uche.
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| Re: .Igbo Worldview In The Global Context See, GWA you were doing great BUT you just had to add that last one-liner! Here we go again! Why can't we all just be N-I-G-E-R-I-A-N-S for crying out loud and why does one tribe have to think they are the best and the most unique?! C'mon now! It's bad enough that I have a war to fight a racism war against the oyibos (first the men, then the women), African Americans, Asians, Africans who think they are white (Ethiopians), other Black Africans, and now a tribalist onen with Ndiigbo! God with all due respect I ask you: "Was it to punish me that you happened to create me a Black Non-Igbo Nigerian man?" I mean, on this web site, is it a crime to be anything other than Igbo?
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| Re: .Igbo Worldview In The Global Context I think our so called Igbo leaders should first of all salvage the extinction of Igbo language and culture which by no means creeping in fast by no fault of Hausa, Yoruba or any other tribe. The Igbo man is the solution to his own problem. Why chase rats when your house is aflame? Instead of us coming home and work on unity we are busy demostrating how intellectually and financially endowed we are! What is wrong with all these people reading big grammar outside Igboland? With all due respect, I think people like Uche who write in English and present our Igbo problem in Atlanta need psychological evaluation because that will not solve the problem! They are only interested to show off how intelligent and educated they are. I have not seen any impact of such occassions in real life of the Igbo tribe. (Someone please call me to order or correct me if I am talking rubbish).
Once I was invited to represent students in a seminar about hunger and starvation in Nigeria. Guess where the seminar took place? Nicon Nuga Hilton, Abuja! Give me a break! Igbo traders are spending all their money building shops all over Nigeria but Igbo land! They still have the gut to complain about Tinubu government who chase them out of Ladipo for whatever reasons! Tinubu is not the problem, come home and find your problem. What was that about how many presidential candidates from Igbo land expressing interests by writing Ohaneze? The day we stop speaking English in our meetings, bring whatever conventions back home and seriously stop blaming other tribes for our self inflicted problems, that day marks the reinventing of a blessed tribe. We must become Aku ruo ulo and not Oka mma n´ama!
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| Re: .Igbo Worldview In The Global Context I'm struggling to understand how the title of this article relate to its message...what global context please?
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| Re: .Igbo Worldview In The Global Context Originally Posted by NaijaPRO See, GWA you were doing great BUT you just had to add that last one-liner! Here we go again! Why can't we all just be N-I-G-E-R-I-A-N-S for crying out loud and why does one tribe have to think they are the best and the most unique?! C'mon now! It's bad enough that I have a war to fight a racism war against the oyibos (first the men, then the women), African Americans, Asians, Africans who think they are white (Ethiopians), other Black Africans, and now a tribalist onen with Ndiigbo! God with all due respect I ask you: "Was it to punish me that you happened to create me a Black Non-Igbo Nigerian man?" I mean, on this web site, is it a crime to be anything other than Igbo?
I know exactly how you feel.
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| Re: .Igbo Worldview In The Global Context Uche,
This Ndigbo thread on Nigeria Village Square has to stop! the problem of Ndigbo are igbos!! And since when did a tribe in Nigeria becomes a race? or are the African Americans in New York a different race to African Americans in Atlanta-Georgia?
Anyone that think differently is quickly label as igbophobic. but Igbos are in every nook and cranny in Nigeria and beyond, then what is the fuss about. The Igbos should address any issues within themselves, for the questions and answers are within Ndigbo!
Other tribes in Nigeria have issues of their own, yet don't bother you about it. Stop bothering us - you and Osuji.
God bless Nigeria.
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| | | Re: .Igbo Worldview In The Global Context I’m lost please can someone enlighten me. We sound more or less like oxy-morons playing divisional politics on public forum in the NVS. If we are true democracy which I believe we are the presidency should be available to all qualified wo/men, capable Nigerian who have demonstrated their leadership qualities in various endeavours, excluding ex military and para military officers, ex dictators and generals who had their chances at point but blew it drinking and on pepper soup. An amendment to the constitution is well over due that every Nigeria is eligible to seek office of the president regardless of their ethnicity.
The Ndigbo desperation for high office by roll calling the number games of how many times Hauses have occupied the seats verse the Yorubas, which now make it right for the Igbos spell doom, which may set us back 100 years. The best man for the job through legit means rather than back dealing bribing our way to the highest office like school boys playing ping pong. One for you one for me, the primary reason Nigeria not moving forward.
If the igbo truly believe they deserve the presidency 2007, they should strategize, produce a platform that will appeal to all Nigerians, present their candidate seek the office through votes rather than wanting to rigging the election. Enough of this is our turn syndrome.
Once again, is time the constitution be revised that all Nigeria have equal opportunity for the highest office of the land. We should stop the regional politics limiting the participation of some group as second citizenry. The Bulk of Nigeria Resource is from the Delta Area of Nigeria, knowing that non of the sons and daughters of these geo-political zone qualified to run will not bring peace to Delta and the country at large.
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| Re: .Igbo Worldview In The Global Context A question of tribe... the paper at this location: http://www.africaaction.org/docs97/eth9711.1.htm is recommended reading for anyone using the "tribe" word.
Rola asked a pertinent question though.
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| Re: .Igbo Worldview In The Global Context Uche Nwannaa:
In all material respects, you wrote well; although you tried your level best to be all things to all people in an effort, I suppose, to take an even handed approach.
I however, disagree with your analysis below: Obviously the defeat at the hands of the federal army during the Nigeria/Biafra war still breeds a siege mentality in our minds, such battle traumas and syndromes sometimes last a life time and may also outlive the generations involved as stories get passed down through the ages, but we have to attempt to at least move on. Fortune has smiled on some of us through dedication and hardwork, such that despite having had to start all over from the scratch after the war, Ndigbo braced the earlier taunts and difficulties and migrated to other parts of Nigeria and the rest of the world and have now made good in these places, some of them are now strong pillars in their host communities. The onus now may be on them to think home, because Ndigbo have this inexplicable home coming mentality that is supported by the concept of Aku luo uno.
Uche, to the best of my knowledge and through an objective analysis of all available evidence, there are people who are uneasy and have refused to “move on” in Nigeria, however, it is clearly not the Igbo. This is not sentiment but a verifiable fact based on the realities on the ground in Nigeria. Uche, if the Igbo have not moved on, which you seem to indicate, would they have moved back to live amongst the same people who were shooting at them in their backyards, which is what happened immediately after the civil war ended? The Igbo moved on over thirty years ago, but there many Nigerians who have not. It is a problem, if Nigeria was an honest nation; there would have been a real national dialogue so we can move on to move forward. I don’t think it will happen simply because there are some influential people who are served very well by the status quo, who will rather leave all well alone.
Uche my brother, I am onye Igbo so are you, we are not perfect, neither is any other group or clan. However, the one characteristic we (Igbos) are not good at is holding grudge. If you review the history of nations that have waged wars, you will discover that the war between Biafra and Nigeria is probably the very few times where the so-called vanquished, in spite of the atrocities afflicted upon her, moved on without any further guerrilla war fare, acts of sabotage, etc against the so-called victor.
This lack of guerrilla war in the Nigerian case was not as a result of goodwill earned by the generosity of the victors [you and I understand what happened to Gowon’s empty three Rs], or lack of moral justification for such guerilla tactic. Not if you consider the incomprehensible cruelty with which the rest of Nigeria prosecuted the war against Biafra – Ndi-Igbo, which was essentially genocidal, in addition to the pogrom in the North and West before the war and the egregious Igbo containment policies instituted by the Feds after the war, most which continues to afflict and bite the Igbo even as we share these ideas. No my brother, I do not see Igbos being stuck on stupid, insular and wallowing about the past. Do you? Quite to the contrary, some people have made a good case that in the process of trying to make other Nigerians feel comfortable about the Igbo, (read tactics to survive siege mentality of others) some Igbos have lost the essential nature of what it means to be Igbo, including abandonment of Igbo language or choosing to not speak Igbo in public in order not to offend others. Some Igbo today feel a sense to apologize for their successes in business and academia and have had to adopt customs and cultures that are fundamentally alien to them to prove allegiance with, and patriotism to Nigeria.
There are innumerable examples I can put forward to prove that the Igbo moved on decades ago in reconciling with every other section of Nigeria. However, as in the age-old cliché, it takes two to tango. The Igbo have paid her dues in Nigeria – pre and post independence. A great deal of the suspicion against the Igbo in Nigeria is generally without foundation. I will say that the Nigeria of my dreams, in which any citizen is an equal citizen anywhere within the country, which has been embraced by many Igbos are yet to be embraced by other Nigerians. The problem for the Igbo, as I see it, is not that of not moving on, because they certainly have, but what to do when you are in a relationship where you chew and spit into the other person’s mouth for their nourishment but they chew and spit in your eyes so you can’t see. What do you do?
Much of what you wrote about Ohaneze is true. To make it short, organizations like Ohaneze will not work in Igbo land (at least in the short run) because the structure and modus operandi is patently un-Igbo. It will take several generations of Igbos before an overlord Igbo organization can function successfully. You see my brother after the war, there was and continues to be this effort to make the Chief and King concept a universal concept in all of Nigeria. Part of the plan was to have these Chiefs who can report to the authorities at the national government of any plans to “try something”. Well, Ndi-Igbo have bastardized the idea and process. Ndi-Igbo has gone from the Igbo World view of “we have no kings” to where almost every Okonkwo and Okorie is a Chief, Eze, whatever. Most Igbo people know that the so-called Chief is only good for his family – they go to Abuja once in a while and collect their stipend. That’s about it. Nobody takes it seriously, same as an overlord, top down organizations like Ohaneze. Tell me Uche, what are the qualifications for being an Ohaneze representative – age, or is wealth, is it by election? The structure and concept of Ohaneze is not rooted in Igbo culture, consequently, it will continue to exist only in the minds of the promoters.
Good luck to you.
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| Re: .Igbo Worldview In The Global Context Ladies and gentlemen:
This is a free world, and we are supposed to be in a democracy. There is nothing wrong with self examinations, criticisms, and re-appraisals of the Igbo situation as some Igbo have been doing on this site.
In the United states of America, a clearly more advanced society, Whites, Blacks, Jews and other races are always debating issues as it affects their race in contemporary America. Black Americans even have what they call the "Congressional Black caucus" which is a kind of pressure group articulating issues affecting Blacks in America.
Methinks that what Igbo commentators are doing is positive, in that it reveals a need and consciouness by Ndigbo to identify their lapses and mistakes, and generally seek to remedy them. The mere fact of identifying and talking about a problem real or perceived, reveals an intention and willingness to make changes.In the long run, any people or society that is self critical, and willing to openly debate issues affecting them openly, will end up the better.
Other ethnic groups in Nigeria who are reluctant or shy away from being critical of their ethnic groups do not neccesarily fare better than Ndigbo. When you go up North, or visit the Niger-Delta you would realise that some ethnic groups face more severe problems than what Ndigbo are facing. The only difference is their reluctance to publicly appraise their situations,which will only serve to make change impossible.
In future i would expect to see more Yoruba's, Hausa's and Ijaws etc being more critical of the perceived lapses (real or imagined) within their ethnic groups. Nigeria is one big rotten mess that affects every ethnic group. The more we talk about our problems, the more we will be inspired to solve them!
Insofar as the criticisms are balanced, moderate, factual and constructive, my brothers please bring it on.
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| Re: .Igbo Worldview In The Global Context I don't know what you all are tearing yourselves up for. This can only be for one reason jealousy for this group of Nigerians, and guess what, the more you guys hate them, the more I love them. Does that say anything?
@Kelechi: Excuse me??? The newest trend in Nigeria fashion is a mixture of all our great cultures combined honey. No one Nigerian culture is dominant.
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| Re: .Igbo Worldview In The Global Context Reading this article i thought i have gone on the biafranigeriaworld site. i thought NVS was about a united nigeria? Is it not time this Uche fellow is thrown out the square?
I just saw a post on the BNW site, Even the igbos don't like him.
see http://messageboard.biafranigeriawor...02076/p/1.html
He is just a self Publisizing, ass kissing individual.
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