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I am here to understudy the Americans--Adeniyi, Yar`Adua`s Spokesman, on US visit
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Old Sep 5, 2007 , 11:18 AM   # 1 (permalink)
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To be honest, I have not read this article, the headline is so ridiculous, I could not but scroll here and say Orisi ri si ( different flavors...)

I dey go dey come.

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Old Sep 5, 2007 , 11:35 AM   # 2 (permalink)
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As an individual I am happy
- for Adeniyi, who has the opportunity of a paid trip and all the connect privileges
- for those business (hotel travel catering shops etc) that will benefit from his trip
As a citizen I am sorry for a country and a Government that
-cannot find and employ people that already have knowledge and experience
-has to appear like a learner after years of independence and many graduates, scholars and professionals serving the world in that field.
-is exposing its citizens to all these ridicule
Yes different flavors God help us.

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Old Sep 5, 2007 , 12:02 PM   # 3 (permalink)
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Guest of State Dept to observe "the working of the US government in the area of communication both at the State Department and at the White House"

Mmmm - How do I put this mildly, Yankee INDOCTRINATION!

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Old Sep 5, 2007 , 12:02 PM   # 4 (permalink)
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Do not be surprised if President Umaru Musa Yar'Adua embarks on a similar trip to understudy George W or Gordon Brown. That is what jesters (which the majority of us are) deserve.

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Old Sep 5, 2007 , 12:19 PM   # 5 (permalink)
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Hey villagers,don't scoff this is progress for Nigeria...our leaders usually want to to learn the science of governance after they have left power. Look at Gowon and OBJ.

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Old Sep 5, 2007 , 01:31 PM   # 6 (permalink)
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Honestly I understand and appreciate the viewpoints of those who have commented against this trip by Segun but I want to see it from another perspective.

Segun is a consummate journalist that we all know. He definitely has something to offer this nation in terms of exposure, experience etc. The impact that such attributes can have will be determined largely by the politics and impediments that will be thrown his way by the office that he occupies. Being the media man of Mr. President is definitely different from being the Editor of a successful national newspaper.

However, his new office will require certain skills which indeed he may have to get from places outside our shores; just as bankers, civil servants etc also go for oversea trainings.
With his background and wealth of experience such a training can only make him a better person as no one knows it all.
Such exchanges in the field of politics, medicine, business etc are also not unusual in today’s world

I must confess that I know him personally so my submission may be in some parts subjective but that is just my take on this matter.

I wish him all the best and safe journey.

taslim

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Old Sep 5, 2007 , 02:39 PM   # 7 (permalink)
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Villagers,

Those of u in Yankeeland shld welcome our Bros, take him to a high mountain in US and show him the beauty of Yankeeland like the devil did to Our Lord and Saviour Jesus and ask him to repeat same in Nigeria if he does not want to fall down and worship devil. Indeed he must swear that he must persuade UMYA to do what he has seen in the US or else worship devil at the end of his tenure in office.
Learning is a life long process.

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Old Sep 5, 2007 , 03:38 PM   # 8 (permalink)
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Perhaps he want lessons in the art of spin as a communication specialist?
...or estacode...but
He is a guest of the US State Dept...so therefore....(I shall shut up for you to complete it...)

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Old Sep 5, 2007 , 04:07 PM   # 9 (permalink)
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folks, its not costing us anything but his time away from work.

i was on on these thingies way back in the day. its a holdover from the cold war when they tried to win hearts and minds of potential leaders from 3rd world countries. its up to the individual to buy in or keep his head. segun is not an infant. he know's the score.

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Old Sep 5, 2007 , 05:27 PM   # 10 (permalink)
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I think we should not be too hard indeed on our brother. I personally wish him well and look forward to his 'understudy' visit to the UK. David Mark, perhaps the 'greatest icon of democracy' produced by Nigeria, has been here in the UK, to the Irish Republic, various off-shore havens, etc in the quest for 'knowledge'; so has Gbenga Daniel of Ogun State too many times to recount. Lest we forget, erstwhile Governor of Ekiti, Ayo Fayose, even came to the British House of Parliament (supposedly) with an entourage to learn about democracy! Madam speaker, sorry o, 'Honourable speaker' of the House of Representatives was in the US recently to learn the art of Birthday celebration, award of contracts, etc and had the likes of 'Honourable' Titi Oseni, Speaker of Ogun State House of Assembly in attendance, spraying the people's Dollars - learning na ni gbo gbo e ('it is all learning'). I COULD GO ON AND ON but what is the point. To quote abdulmumin, with his kind permission: "That is what jesters (which the majority of us are) deserve".

When is the head of the Nigerian Police coming to the UK to understudy - abi na overstudy?
Head of Army nko?
Head of Navy nko?
Head of Airforce nko?
Head of Customs nko?
Not forgetting, of course, the head of the Nigerian Union of Road Transport Workers!

Nigeria, may God, Allah, Jesus, Eledumare, Ogun, Sango, nature itself, the spirits of our ancestors, whatever or whoever gave birth to the present world we inhabit, etc save you from within. Haba Nigeria......Haba!!!!!! Ha....o piteous sake!!!!!

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Old Sep 5, 2007 , 06:01 PM   # 11 (permalink)
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Rubbish. Why not go to Ghana?

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Old Sep 5, 2007 , 07:23 PM   # 12 (permalink)
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Uhn! If only Segun and his masters will not OVERPLAY whatever or whoever he UNDERSTUDIED in his 'V' as opposed to traditional triangular trips to Yankee and Jandon.

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Old Sep 5, 2007 , 07:44 PM   # 13 (permalink)
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Nigerians (another word for the most gullible folks under the heavens) can justify just about anything. How can we really try to justify a cabinet appointee travelling to another country to understudy the operations of their operations with a view to learning how to perform his functions? What then was the basis of his appointment?

This brings to mind a 2nd Republic incident when several legislators in the then State Creation Committee travelled to Switzerland to understudy the Swiss in order to create states in Nigeria! I was a secondary school boy in those days but even my 14 year old brain found the entire exercise ludicous.

Nothing apparently has changed over the last almost 30 years! Tragic!!

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Old Sep 5, 2007 , 08:24 PM   # 14 (permalink)
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@Adbulmumin


you wrote:

Nigerians (another word for the most gullible folks under the heavens) can justify just about anything. How can we really try to justify a cabinet appointee travelling to another country to understudy the operations of their operations with a view to learning how to perform his functions? What then was the basis of his appointment?

This brings to mind a 2nd Republic incident when several legislators in the then State Creation Committee travelled to Switzerland to understudy the Swiss in order to create states in Nigeria! I was a secondary school boy in those days but even my 14 year old brain found the entire exercise ludicous.

Nothing apparently has changed over the last almost 30 years! Tragic!!
How you can refer to Nigerians as the most gullible people in the world beats me.
The issue under discussion is neither here nor there. Almost on a daily basis groups and individuals under the auspices of government go to countries other than theirs to study one thing or the other.

For instance a country (Malaysia or so) came here and went away with our palm kernels. Today they are exporters of palm oil.

The example you gave sounds ridiculous even in 2007 but can you provide more details about people who went to study states creation. I know that civil servants travel under one guise or the other but to now conclude that we are gullible is something else.


Did you gather from the article the country that is picking the bills. Where did we get the presidential system of government from? For how long have we practised it? Is there any cut-off point for learning, And the fact that you
are in pursuit of some knowledge implies that you are incompetent?

I concede to you that you are entitled to your opinions but to say that we are gullible is something i dont find funny.

taslim

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Old Sep 5, 2007 , 08:38 PM   # 15 (permalink)
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Prior to his swearing in as the Vice President of Nigeria, Goodluck Jonathan went to Harvard University to understudy Administration and Policy at an Ivy League for two weeks . Now Adeniyi is off to the USA and UK to "understudy the Americans" for a few days. I didn't realise Nigerians could learn so much in so little time.

Adeniyi would have better served the public and his boss by travelling by road to Port-Harcourt via Benin to "understudy" the highways. He would have gone to the Niger Delta Creeks to "understudy" the desperation Nigerians endure. He would have travelled by commercial airline to Plateau State to "understudy" the decrepit called air travel in Nigeria. He would have travelled to Sokoto and Kano to "understudy" a total collapse of our educational system. And then head back to Lagos and Abuja by road to "understudy" the hardships Nigerian face everyday.Then maybe, he can connect with Nigerians and be better equiped to communicate the policies of Yar-Adua to Nigerian and the realiites of Nigerians to Yar-Adua.

This "understudy" trip is an unmitigated disaster. I demand a refund.

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Old Sep 5, 2007 , 08:39 PM   # 16 (permalink)
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Dear Villagers,

Please hold up one moment, before we destroy one of "our own"!

Mr Segun Adeniyi has a right to travel anywhere in the world in search of education that will enhance and perhaps improve productivity in his present occupation. (I do not think that in it's self to be a bad thing!).
....most of us will do the same if given a chance.

In our daily lives at work, we sometimes get the opportunity to attend in-house training courses locally or perhaps abroad. I am presently in the U.K. pursuing Post Graduate Medical training. The benefits, too numerous to mention; if I decide to make comparisons with local content in Nigeria.
To my mind, if I improve my knowledge base, and it helps me carry out my chosen career pursuit to the best of my ability, then most of my work is done!

Segun has an opportunuty to see first hand and learn from "people" who have a long tradition of Democracy and a number of "Villagers" may disagree with this, but these people also have done this "press man" busness longer and better than we have in Nigeria,I can see no problem with a bit of "humility" in wanting to learn from "he" who seems to know what he is talking about.

Let us encourage our brother, he has been with us all this time. The fact that he is in the present Government is entirely by his conviction and belief that he can make a difference. "Let him travel the world and see".............if it will make a positive impact to Nigeria, no matter how small the difference.

I am prepared to give him a chance,......"at last....a square peg in a square hole"!! What we have always prayed for...abi??


God speed, my brother.


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....Let me also say for the avoidance of doubt, Oga Segun, we are also watching very keenly, and will not hold back if we perceive any deviation from accepted norms within the NVS. and from the majority of the Nigerian population.
......Our expectations are very great where you are concerned....(always remember that)!!

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Old Sep 5, 2007 , 08:41 PM   # 17 (permalink)
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[QUOTE][/However, his new office will require certain skills which indeed he may have to get from places outside our shores; just as bankers, civil servants etc also go for oversea trainings.
With his background and wealth of experience such a training can only make him a better person as no one knows it all.
Such exchanges in the field of politics, medicine, business etc are also not unusual in today’s world
QUOTE]

How right you are. I am sure the estacode has nothing to do with the trip. We must all be dumb not to realise how vitally important to our national interest it is to understudy the way the white house communicates. Of course we also know that after the Americans have paid the bill, it will never miraculously show up again as an expense of the department that our travelling student employee heads. Very patriotic Nigerian, he must be.

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Old Sep 5, 2007 , 09:23 PM   # 18 (permalink)
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Abdulmumin, I echo your thoughts. I hope William Shakespeare forgives me for carving out of a masterpiece to drive home my own feelings about the shenanigans of these politicians and their administrators, or mouthpieces. I cannot but hear a resonance of PUCK...

Shall we their fond pageant see?
Lord, what fools these mortals be!

(Taken from ‘A Midsummer Night's Dream, Act III, Scene II)

What I find odious is the brazen way our collective intelligence is consistently insulted by those who should know better. To quote, with kind permission from the author: The Special Adviser said in order to help communicate Yar'adua's message to Nigeria he recognises that he would benefit from an "adequate preparation since I have never been in the public arena before and I take my responsibility very seriously."

Whilst I would not categorize Nigerians as the most gullible, I would boldly say that we are so tolerant of hocus pocus usually disguised as, inter alia, in the interest of national unity (which is a euphemism for the marginalisation of others), moving the country forward (usually to deflect attention from electoral gerrymandeering), etc, etc,

Please, can those who know the ebullient and knowledgeable gentleman, Olusegun Adeniyi, help me ask some pertinent questions:

When is David Mark going to tell us how he came about the stupendous wealth attributable to him in the Court of Appeal decision relation to his divorce proceedings in the UK? The judge who gave the leading judgement questioned the source of David Mark's wealth, which he was trying to shield from his estranged wife. When is the Senate President coming to the UK to learn how to tell the truth?

When is Nuhu Ribadu going to tell us how a man that the EFCC officially indicted became the Vice President of Nigeria?

When are discredited politicians or government appointees, or those whose positions have become untenable, coming to the UK to learn how to tender their resignations? Does anyone remember one Atiku, yes the one who refused (I think he forgot) to resign to preserve his dignity and take on his so-called detractors?

When is Professor (Professor, beni o, top of the learning tree - well maybe...not when it comes to resigning when his position was publicly undermined) Charles Soludo going to Switzerland, USA, or the UK to learn how to politely tender a letter of resignation? I say tender a letter of resignation - not resign - even if it is to bluff his way past his detractors!

When is the Nigerian Police, the PDP, General Olusegun Obasanjo, Atiku Abubakar, etc going to travel to Russia to learn how to tell us who killed Bola Ige?

When is Ernest Shonekan going to learn how to say NO, after several decades of learning, to a 'left-over', Abasha in Yoruba (forgive my spelling, if it is wrong), another person's mandate given by a whole country? He also forgot to turn down what was not his to accept!

When is Professor (another one? be ni (Yes) - we have them aplenty in my country) 'abrakadabra' Maurice Iwu going to travel to Zimbabwe to learn how to tell us the magic behind the electoral victory of Andy Uba?

When is Andy Uba, erstwhile Personal Assistant to General Olusegun Obasanjo, (world's no.1 loan acquirer, farmer, educationist, statesman, captain of industry, Field Marshall of Do or Die affair election, friend of Alamala of Ibadan, father of Dr Iyabo Bello-Obasanjo ati beebeelo) going to travel to Canada and the UK to learn how to tell about obtaining Phd without a first degree?

When are all the bloody politicians going to travel abroad to learn how to stay home, in Nigeria, where their constituents live, so that they can provide basic necessities of life - food, shelter, education, health, qualitative education, disease-free water, etc

Lastly, for how long will it take our politicians to learn to steer clear of the public treasury in Nigeria? Does anyone need to travel abroad to learn how to do what is right and proper? Does anyone have to travel abroad to learn the basics of proper administration?

Ah Nigeria, you bleed from these ticks eating away at you! Ah Nigeria, your day of glory will come - someday - no matter how long it takes.

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Old Sep 5, 2007 , 09:29 PM   # 19 (permalink)
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The difficulty I have with this "understudy" business is that he is going to "study" communication between the American Govt and its people. He is not going to "study" science and technology. He is not even going to "study" how the Government functions in the USA. He is going to America for the American Govt to tell him how to communicate with Nigerians!

Nigerian problems go beyond communication. We see the evidence everywhere we look and everywhere we turn. I second the motion that UMYA should undertake a bus tour of Nigeria, village to village, hamlet to hamlet. After that, he should visit America and undertake a bus tour as well. Not that that will change his behavior. After all, a few of them have private planes to "fly over" the stench underneath! Some of our worst "leaders" have also spent some time in the Good Ole USA

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