EFCC: When truth confronts half-fried ideas

[Robot]

://www.nigeriavillagesquare.com/images/stories/article_images_3/farida.Mrs Waziri can succee...Read the full article.

[Igboamaeze]

Oga LIVINUS, thanks for your concern over EFCC and their "war" against corruption. You talked about FW and her press relations as though she has performed poorly in that respect but for me that's the ONLY thing I praise her for. You see she has not yet recruited journalists, PR gurus and spinmasters to deceive the public like her predecessor did. In street parlance they'll say that she is keeping it real. What you see is what you get.

I confess that I did not read the full text of your essay, I have serious time constraints. I only scanned thro it trying to see if like other "reputable and notable" columnists you will compare FW with NR, the "undisputed heavy weight of patriotism and the award winning anti-corruption czar". Luckily and happily I did not see any mention of him. Thanks for that. I hope it is delibrate.

In the meantime pls visit www.sunnewsonline.com and see the news on PPRA scam. My question is: when did this fraud start? In 2008 when FW took over or before, during her predecessor? If an agency whose office is less than one kilometer from EFCC headquarters squandered millions of dollars of public funds - like tens of others: PTDF, PEF, PPMC, Ministry of Works, FERMA, FCTA, NNPC, FIRS, Power and Steel, Water Resources, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc... - and EFCC under the "award winner" did not know and yet he knew that Orji Kalu, ALAMS, Odili, Ibori and others who were hundreds of kilometers away were corrupt (no defence whatsoever for the looters pls) how then do we believe him? On what basis are we vouching for his competence?

NR fooled this nation big time and I am so disappointed that most Nigerians allowed themselves to be fooled by Ribadu and his antics. Another disclaimer: FW is certainly not an alternative. She failed on arrival but as I said, she has not been making noise all over the place like her predecessor.

Finally, pls see below a reproduction of an earlier post by me on this EFCC distraction:

Memo to All Villagers: Re EFCC, Ribadu and Waziri.

Pls see today's Punch: Senate urges EFCC, ICPC to try el-Rufai over alleged economic crimes

http://www.punchontheweb.com/Articl....00810161251835

Read the fraud that was El Rufai's tenure and yet he was Ribadu's closest pal! If El Rufai were to be an Igboman, be rest assured that Ribadu would have paraded him in chains. This is our Nigeria. This is the hypocrite called Ribadu. This is the nonsense called anti-corruption. This is patriotism according to Ribadu and his stupid cheer-leaders in the media.

Be rest assurred that no one is going to ask El Rufai any question let alone try him. You have all heard how some Emirs and retired Generals share the nation's grain reserves and fertilizer year after year. Till today no one has raised the matter after the Agric Minister made the disclosure. The cash and carry press are rather interested in Ribadu and his well deserved nemesis.

Villagers, this is your Nigeria, my Nigeria, our Nigeria.

Mr Sonala Olumhense and other fans of Ribadu should pls educate me on why Ribadu did not detect the massive fraud at FCT under emperor El Rufai. The reason the files of Obj and the governors are missing is because, for the first time, northern politicians were involved. And to think that case files will be missing at EFCC is more than enough to convince the most gullible fool that EFCC is a joke and has always been a huge joke.

Mrs Waziri is now grandstanding in Rivers State, can someone please tell me any - I mean any, Ribadu and Farida Waziri inclussive - politician or public officer in Nigeria today that is not corrupt?

If I were the Governor and government of Rivers State, I will chase EFCC and their rogue operatives away until they find the missing files of Obj and his 36 thieves as well as tell us why no northerner/muslim has ever been charged of corruption (pls don't tell me about Boni Haruna, Botmang/Dariye and Jolly Nyame. These are marginal northerners that stepped out of line. You know why they are being tried. Don't you?) Maybe then we can all convert to North/Islam so that Nigeria will be free from corruption.

Let us stop this charade called anti-corruption until we are ready to tackle it head on.

[akuluouno]

The Rt Hon Igboama,

I do not think that SO is justifying the tenure of NR. If that is implied in his latest treatise on FW,s EFCC then I beg to also disagree with him. The fact is that corruption in Nigeria is not only an incubus, it has become a malignant cancer. I have always agreed with the view that in Nigeria we cannot legislate against two things, coups and corruption.
I think the eradication of corruption is one tall goal Nigeria has set for himself which cannot be fulfilled for so many reasons - systemic, endemic, cultural, religious, mischief, ethnic, nigerian factor, etc etc.
When you see the etymological definition of corruption, you will see that like sin, we are all born into it. I have also tried to distinguish between what I called fiscal and non-fiscal corruption. The latter is even more deadlier than the former. During the probes on power and FCT in the house, I noticed that the actors easily get away with non-fiscal corruption while all ears are out for the fiscal ones. That was why ER in one moment of deadly and expensive hubris remarked, "if I do not allocate land to my friends and family, will I allocate them to my enemies". The whole house roared with laughter
Yesterday I sat at a place where I overheard a group of young undergraduates discussiing the modalities of bribing one of their lecturers so that he will inflate their degree exam marks to enable them make a first or second class upper so that they can easily get jobs in banks.
Corruption is not Nigerian, it is universal. But agencies like the EFCC owe it to Nigerians to devise ingenious ways of reducing the cankerworm in view of its capacity for rapid underdevelopment of a state. Plea bargains can be made. Investment of looted funds in the domestic economy is also an option for now. I do not know if naming and shaming can work since our political elites have long passed the era of honour and being ashamed.
Thanks.

[employlawone]

Unfortunately a perfectly plausible rejoinder has been handicapped by an ill-informed attempt to inject a tribal dimension to the issue.

Read the fraud that was El Rufai's tenure and yet he was Ribadu's closest pal! If El Rufai were to be an Igboman, be rest assured that Ribadu would have paraded him in chains.

Why must we continue to see every myriad of problems confronting Nigeria only through the prism of tribal lenses?

[izonboy]

I dont know which one to start with, the FW tenure or the trivalization of issues on the basis of tribal sentiments. Lets start with FW. It is a good thing that she came at a time when the Nigerian press and certain informed commentators were in love with NR. It left a big shoe for her to fill. With the advantage of previous performance as a yardstick to measure her own performance, FW is under pressure to perform. Even if she does not do so well at the end, at least she's being kept on her toes and one hopes she's kept under the spotlight throughout her tenure. The lesson (or at least one of them) is that there is no point in changing the rules of the game to keep any body in office for ever whether they perform well or not. If they did, their successor would be forced to perform. If they didnt, their successor would have a chance to improve.

Bringing me to the question: was NR sure a performer? I agree with the analysis that some of the issues that Nigeria is throwing at FW did not occur just yesterday or today. Brother NR was too busy playing to the gallary and serving the biddings of Baba Sege to have time to address real issues. Apart from embarrassing a few former governors (and maybe getting Alams disgraced out of office and getting a plea-bargained sentence) what concrete record does NR have to show for his years of showmanship? And I am asking this as a genuine question for those who know to oblige less informed people like me.

Then there is also the stupidity of the law and its endless fictions. Lets not blame FW and her types too much if they keep talking of no case. Jacob Zuma, upon all the issues around him in South Africa is said not to have any case because he has not been charged of any thing. The law as they say is an ass. What we see koro-koro, the law would say .: where is the evidence?

Tribalism? Nothing new. For as long as our existence remains strongly linked to 'place of origin', tribalism and tribal sentiments will remain issues. Forget that part of the Constitution that says we'd encourage Nigerians to mix and to settle anywhere. If my opinion would count (unfortunately it does not) I would say that all our official forms should ask 'place of residence', rather than 'place of origin'. Maybe that would help us gradually move away from the crippling effects of ethnic and tribal attachments.

hey, and please dont ask me why I bear Izonboy if I am not ethnic conscious!.

[Uwaa Sef]

Make una leave matter abeg. The most important thing be sey the titi fine well well.

Later

[10Kobo]

At times, l think "Nigerians" deserve all this crooked Leaders they get!
We are so insincere, warped in thinking and judgment which, most times, is colored by tribal and ethnic hatred/sentiments.
For example, lets take a closer look at this article and the few responses, so far.
We had a Nuhu Ribadu, Nigerians, these same Nigerians claimed he was a 'P.R stuntman' since he was always 'foaming in the mouth' about how many Guvnors he has nabbed or completed dossiers-on, prior to the expiration of their "immunity clause".
He actually put some criminals away except that the "Obasanjo-favorites" and Obasanjo himself, were left untouched.
Yahoo-yahoo criminals were on the decline. Bare-faced tricksters knew there was an agency that could investigate them. Even the Police knew they were not beyond reproach as their biggest Oga (or the one with the biggest Tummy! ) was de-robed and a few amounts forced out of his loot.
Ribadu was cooperating with foreign governments to ensure that looters dont have a country to hide their loot and were actually not safe, home and abroad.
Nigeria was beginning to get "de-classified" as a nation of thieves. Respect was begining to come our way, with all that Ribadu's foreign "image laundering interviews".

Nuhu was not the "perfect FBI" we desired but l would grant him these: He started the job and set the pace.
He was a pioneer and like all other pioneers, he can not be perfect. Others only need to improve on what a pioneer does.

Nigerians connived with the enemies of this nation, the "grand-looters", to condemn and humiliate him.

He was demoted, he was harassed and publicly ridiculed, using some "official technicality".
To ensure that the humiliation never ends, a 'Police AIG' was recently ranting about "demoted officers" wearing 'Mufti' instead of their "demoted Uniform" which will display their new unenviable rank!
I will like him to take a census of how many Policemen still wear Uniform these days.
All you see is one "armed robber" wielding an AK-47 and when it is convenient or dangerous to his health, depending on the situation, he will 'brandish a Police I.D card' to show you that he is an "officer". Of course we all know who the target of such 'Abuja radio directive', is.

Well, Ribadu is gone and gone for good, with all his warts and noise! Let his spirit lie, abi?
Yet, some people are so incurably fixated on Ribadu so much so that they would blame Ribadu, if their son does not do his homework on time!

Enter our queen Farida. The crime busting alternative to that foul-mouthed Ribadu that Nigerians have always prayed for!
Now, files that Ribadu took pains, resources and risk to compile have gone missing and where they can still be found, they contain "compliments" written on behalf of fraudsters and looters.

Well, that what you get! Thats what you deserve!!
As long as we decide to "cut-off our nose, just to spite our face", thats what we will continue to get.
Now this one does not make noise, infact, she is "green snakeee" on the green grass.
I think its time we "shut-up and put-up" and let the woman do "what she was engaged to do"
......and dont ask me What it is she was engaged to do, ....the hand writing is already on the wall...or did you not hear that "Obj is an innocent man"?

Aaah, and it was not Ribadu that said so O!

Yeeyeeee dey smell for dis our Obodo Contiri!
10Kobo

[Luchi]

http://www.punchontheweb.com/Articl....00810161251835

Read the fraud that was El Rufai's tenure and yet he was Ribadu's closest pal! If El Rufai were to be an Igboman, be rest assured that Ribadu would have paraded him in chains. This is our Nigeria.
Mr Sonala Olumhense and other fans of Ribadu should pls educate me on why Ribadu did not detect the massive fraud at FCT under emperor El Rufai.
[/B]

Why bring being an Igbo man into every issue? As a reminder;Mr Sonala Olumhense was not supporting Ribadu, he was simply asking the current chair to submit EFCC report.

[udokaamah]

I am yet to see any Nigerian institution that has succeeded. The issue however has little to do with Nigeria or institution as it has to do with very notion of government.

Government is THE problem. It was James Byrnes who said that "the nearest approach to immortality on earth is a government bureau"

To address th issue of corruption, Nigeria set up a government bureau - EFCC. Big government is not the recipe to any problem. Government is the exact symbol of its people, "Like People, Like Government".

Wolfgang Van Goethe said; "Which is the best government? That which teaches us to govern ourselves"

To be governed is to be watched over, inspected, spied on, directed, legislated at, regulated, docketed, indoctrinated, preached at, controlled, assessed, weighed, censored, ordered about, by men who have neither the right nor the knowledge nor the virtue (Pierre-Joseph Proudhon).

Government is best which governs least. The true art of government consists in not governing too much. Ralph Waldo Emerson expressed a similar sentiment in his essay "Politics": "Hence the less government we have the better - the fewer laws and the less confided power."

I do not advocate anarchy. But i draw a distinction between Government and Adminstration. The former is perpetual. The latter is temporary and changeable. According to Sharp Williams "My reading of history convinces me that most bad government has grown out of too much government."

If we do not reduce the size of government in Nigeria, the genius called Nigerian will not show up.

[MrOneNaija]

ENDURING TRUTH: THE HANGOVER OF REGIMENTATION?

If I were an adviser to the current EFCC boss, Mrs. Waziri, I would tell her to be always mindful of this enduring truth, namely, that a significant segment of the national press had during much of the despotism of the ex-tyrant called Obasanjo, sought to act as cheer-leader for the lawless antics of the former chairman of the anti-corruption outfit. A Lagos newspaper, The Guardian, for which the author of the initiating article of this thread is a columnist, even made the controversial ex-head of the EFCC its " man of the year"!
It is on record that for patently spurious considerations, The Guardian, for instance, threw caution to the wind by engaging in a partisan campaign to retain Nuhu Ribadu at the EFCC despite overwhelming evidence pointing to the reckless, destructive, brazenly corrupt and anti-democratic shenanigans of the man and his fellow agents there. After fighting an orchestrated but futile war on behalf of their darling, it is conceivable that members of what used to be derisively referred to as Kabiyesi press on account of its obsequious attitude to the previous regime, will harbor residual resentment against the successor. That resentment may not be conscious and may manifest itself in either the tone or hue of the writings or pronouncements of the pro-Ribadu elements.

While it is true that Ribadu was master at media manipulation that apparently served him well in the eyes of the unsuspecting (or the biased), I would not recommend the resort to dubious tactics by the current EFCC boss. Mrs. Waziri and the EFCC should be transparent at all times. The emphasis on due process and the rule of law is the correct approach. As I did mention under another thread, it is the only way to help deepen Nigerian democracy. The law may be an ass but throwing away this tenacious vehicle in the criminal and rascally manner Obasanjo and his errand boy, Ribadu, did, would be tantamount to inviting anarchy. We cannot afford the hangover of military era regimentation. The due process mantra should not, though, be seen as an excuse not to do the right thing. Obasanjo and his confederates must never be allowed to have the last laugh at the expense of the nation. Those files that are reportedly tampered with or missing should be reconstituted.

Again, there should be a surgical transformation of the EFCC to rid it of the compromised elements that helped bastardize the Nigerian democratic project in the last dispensation.

[Igboamaeze]

Unfortunately a perfectly plausible rejoinder has been handicapped by an ill-informed attempt to inject a tribal dimension to the issue.



Why must we continue to see every myriad of problems confronting Nigeria only through the prism of tribal lenses?

Quite frankly, I agree with u that we should not bring tribalism into our national problems. But fact is: in Nigeria it is self first, tribe next and others last.

Whenever you hear that EFCC or ICPC has put El Rufai on trial, please expect an apology from me for bringing tribe/Igboman into this. Bros, this is the true and real Nigeria. It is sad and bad, but it is unfortunately true.

Don't forget that Senator Nwagbara and Prof Febian Osuji were publicly disgraced over N50m bribe! Obasanjo made national broadcast over it. Today, if u ask me I will say that both Obj and NR are more corrupt than Tafa Balogun, Nwagbara and Osuji put together. I can tell you on good and solid authority that every Federal government agency including State House, EFCC and ICPC "lobbies" for their annual budgets till TODAY.

I had cause to look at the grand corruption called 1999 constitution today and was amazed by all the lofty provisions on national unity, justice, federal character, right to live anywhere and all that. I have been trying to reconcile these lofty provisions with the stark and ugly realities on the ground.

Our challenge is to remake Nigeria and raise it above the mockery and unmitigated failure that it has been turned into. This task will be sans tribe.

I know it won't be easy, but it shall come to pass...

[SimpleMan]

Igboamaeze,
On your earlier post asking about a northern Governor that has been tried.? Ex Jigawa state governor was locked up, I believe. The last time I checked, Jigawa was in the FAR north.

Why do we polrise every action that is done in this place? It would not besurprising that you may have been one of the supporters of Alams - that afterall the money he stolewas for the Ijaws and nobody's!! Is this not laughable?

REgards,
Simple

[Igboamaeze]

Igboamaeze,
On your earlier post asking about a northern Governor that has been tried.? Ex Jigawa state governor was locked up, I believe. The last time I checked, Jigawa was in the FAR north.

Why do we polrise every action that is done in this place? It would not besurprising that you may have been one of the supporters of Alams - that afterall the money he stolewas for the Ijaws and nobody's!! Is this not laughable?

REgards,
Simple

Wonderful. U got me there!

There are 19 states in the North (plus, FCT). There are 17 states in the south. The last time I checked the following southern ex-governors have either been paraded or threantened with being paraded: Orji Kalu, Ibori, Odili, Nnamani, Fayose, Alamesiegha and Ladoja. This is seven out of 17! Pls don't get me wrong: I STRONGLY believe that they are all guilty as charged and would honestly want to see them disgraced and jailed.

My worry is that the impression you get is that it is only in the South and amongst the christians (Turaki is the only northern Muslim tried by Ribadu!) that you find corrupt people. I want you (or Ribadu) to tell me any ex- or serving governor, Minister, DG, Perm Sec, Director, etc that you can swear by the bible or Koran to be free from corruption.

My position is that selective justice is the worst form of injustice and corruption.

Pls see the following links, if you need more background to my position:

http://www.saharareporters.com/www/l...detail/?id=481

Resign, Farida Waziri, Resign! (#25).

Resign, Farida Waziri, Resign! (#47)

I'll be waiting to see when El Rufai will be paraded. Thanks.

[10Kobo]

[B]
I'll be waiting to see when El Rufai will be paraded.[/B] Thanks.

Please indulge my ignorance but l will like to ask: Parade Nuhu Ribadu for what offense?

I will like to see thieves and treasury looters not only paraded but divested of their loot before being given a very looooong prison sentence.

So, l will be happy if you or any one who justifiably thinks Ribadu is guilty of LOOTING OR DIVERSION OF PUBLIC FUNDS, to please, for God's sake, once and for all, come out and table the EVIDENCE.

Lets be clear that Ribadu was "demoted" not because he was guilty of any offense, its just that the "table of power politics" just turned . Should that 'table' turn again tomorrow, dont be surprised that his rank may be restored or even made the I.G...and God help all those abusing their power right now!!

Right now, we are running a "financieracy" (Government of "the financiers", for the financiers.)

We all dislike Ribadu for allowing OBJ, that devil incarnate, to use him for his selfish ends but hey, if Farida Waziri is still "lobbying" for her Agency's funds in 2008 (and you want her to arrest UMYA or his AGF, if need be?), how much "teeth" does a barking Ribadu has, to bite "the Obasanjo" that created his Agency, "installed" him as Agency head with an "unfettered power" to remove him....same power that UMYA "activated" o suit the purpose of his financiers? And same Obasanjo was bent on using the Agency to hound his enemies!

If you say Ribadu was "one-sided" in his war on corruption, l will agree with you.
Maybe he should have resigned...just to prove a point but then, in service to one's nation, the larger interest of the citizens should over-ride one's personal sentiments.
Nigeria benefited from Ribadu's term in office. Q.E.D

Lets get real, its very easy to point fingers but l still want to know whether their is any human, Nigerian or Oyinbo, who can match, less surpass Ribadu's "little" achievements in office, ....WORKING UNDER THE SAME ATMOSPHERE (OBJ, presidential authority to hire and fire, power to with-hold running funds, e.t.c.).

Like l said, "a child that says his father is very ugly, would grow-up and look in the mirror one day....and the truth will dawn on him"

Am still waiting for the evidence on Ribadu's guilt on corruption......

Meanwhile, now that you guys have turned the EFCC to just another "Police station" where "case file" just disappear, the 'next level' will be "toll-collection" by EFCC officers along our roads!
Police na Police, abeg

10Kobo

[Igboamaeze]

1. Please indulge my ignorance but l will like to ask: Parade Nuhu Ribadu for what offense?

2. So, l will be happy if you or any one who justifiably thinks Ribadu is guilty of LOOTING OR DIVERSION OF PUBLIC FUNDS, to please, for God's sake, once and for all, come out and table the EVIDENCE.

10Kobo

MR 10K, I suspect u read my post while half asleep. I said EL RUFAI not Ribadu. Having said that, I have said elsewhere and wish to say again that if I were FW and UMYA I will shut up NR and his gang of press/PR warriors by trying him for personnal corruption, cover-ups, GROSS AND CRIMINAL INCOMPETENCE, Nepotism and disloyalty.

On Evidence:

I have since noticed we have all turned into overnight legal luminaries. But that is only when it suits us. Someone said - I guess on this thread - that even if u catch a thief koro-koro, the courts will still be asking for eveidence (by the way I know a bit of law and totally agree that we need evidence before conviction, so don't go there).

I have also said elsewhere that NR is the luckiest human being ever created considering his many flaws and the high public rating. I did say that this is the result of what social scientists call informational cascade or herd mentally. It occurs when a mass of people - both the ignorant and the knowledgable - follow a particular point of view for no other reason than that it is popular and/or supported by influential, respected and trusted opinion leaders. The reasons for this are many. You can google "Informational Cascade" for more.

If u insist on evidence here are just a few (I hope NVS is not a court of law,so don't cross examine me. When the authorities try NR the evidence will come pouring in, believe me):

He bought the house of a DIG! A police officer and an anti-corruption warrior!!. He sold the lie - which u all bought- that his father in law paid for it. Who is his father in-law? An original govt pikin who has lived all his life with his mouth on the feeding bottle of public funds.

He "pallies" around with looters ( You can tell that this phrase has been corruptly appropriated by Igboamaeze!). See my first post on this thread. While he was fooling u and the public, that he was hunting for Ibori all over the world, he (NUHU RIBADU!!!!!) was actually enjoying pounded yam and oha soup with Ibori at Andy Uba's - yes. ANDY UBA!!!!! - house in Abuja.

Who bought the recovered assets of 419ners and other looters and on what terms and conditions?

EFCC staff under him were living like Saudi Arabian princes. Where else did the funds come from?

(Pls see my first post - #2 above -and check all the links therein for more "evidence").

The story is all over Abuja that if u write a petition against Ribadu's favoured clients/friends he would call them and tear the petition in their presence.

What more evidence do you need? For someone in his position, you would expect the HIGHEST level of personnal discipline and above board conduct.

OK. You will ask me to produce the video evidence of all these. I will certainly do so, when you and Ribadu produce the video evidence of the the looters/419ners that he paraded or accused.

Like I advised someone else before: I am acutely aware that 99.999% of Nigerians, Americans, Europeans, Asians and Transperancy International officials believe that Ribadu is the best thing that happened to the anti-corruption community in the entire universe but pls do yourself a favour: just look at the yawning realities around you and then maybe - just perhaps - you, 10K will spare yourself the unworthy company of the ignorant majority.

You predicted that Ribadu shall return. Nobody needs a prophet to know that he is certainly coming back in a big way to finish the spin and deception that he started. Ditto for El Rufai! I predict that when next you hear from El Rufai it will not be in defence of the fraud that he committed at MFCT but it will be to scold those who had the guts to question him and to assume a bigger role in gwo'men.

But this is not the first time: remember that Anenih was the most powerful member of the Obj clique nothwithstanding his anticedents. Remember that IBB is still the idol of rogue politicians. Remember that Abacha is still worshipped in death by his loyalists. Nigeria we hail thee.

DISCLAIMER: FW is not any better, before u say she is my girlfriend. I know no looter/419ner. I am only saying that the war against corruption should be just, fair and equitable to all. No scape goats. No sacred cows. I have nothing personal against NR and his favoured clients/sacred cows.

Finally, I agree with you that no matter who takes over EFCC, the story will remain the same. See EFCC: When truth confronts half-fried ideas (#13 and check all the links therein). See also: Resign, Farida Waziri, Resign! (#47). The extent of public corruption is so much that once you step into the public service in Nigeria, corruption overcomes you. Just look at Ribadu. Akin Osuntokun, Femi Fani-Kayode, Obj, etc. By the way where is Segun Adeniyi while all these sleaze are going on?

Think, brother think.

Just think...

NOTE: I have tried to provide all my views on Ribadu, Corruption, EFCC and Farida Waziri in this post. In future, I will direct anyone who replies to my posts on this topic to this post and all the links therein. We need to face other matters of urgent national importance.

[10Kobo]

MR 10K, I suspect u read my post while half asleep. I said EL RUFAI not Ribadu. Having said that, I have said elsewhere and wish to say again that if I were FW and UMYA I will shut up NR and his gang of press/PR warriors by trying him for personnal corruption, cover-ups, GROSS AND CRIMINAL INCOMPETENCE, Nepotism and disloyalty.

..and l suspect you're a "Pastor" since l was actually sleeping while trying to concote that response! A beg, any prophecy on when this yeye stock prices would begin to go bullish again?
Anyway, accept my unconditional apologies for the mix-up.

On Evidence:

I have since noticed we have all turned into overnight legal luminaries. But that is only when it suits us. Someone said - I guess on this thread - that even if u catch a thief koro-koro, the courts will still be asking for eveidence (by the way I know a bit of law and totally agree that we need evidence before conviction, so don't go there).

I have also said elsewhere that NR is the luckiest human being ever created considering his many flaws and the high public rating. I did say that this is the result of what social scientists call informational cascade or herd mentally. It occurs when a mass of people - both the ignorant and the knowledgable - follow a particular point of view for no other reason than that it is popular and/or supported by influential, respected and trusted opinion leaders. The reasons for this are many. You can google "Informational Cascade" for more.

If u insist on evidence here are just a few (I hope NVS is not a court of law,so don't cross examine me. When the authorities try NR the evidence will come pouring in, believe me):

He bought the house of a DIG! A police officer and an anti-corruption warrior!!. He sold the lie - which u all bought- that his father in law paid for it. Who is his father in-law? An original govt pikin who has lived all his life with his mouth on the feeding bottle of public funds.

He "pallies" around with looters ( You can tell that this phrase has been corruptly appropriated by Igboamaeze!). See my first post on this thread. While he was fooling u and the public, that he was hunting for Ibori all over the world, he (NUHU RIBADU!!!!!) was actually enjoying pounded yam and oha soup with Ibori at Andy Uba's - yes. ANDY UBA!!!!! - house in Abuja.

Who bought the recovered assets of 419ners and other looters and on what terms and conditions?

EFCC staff under him were living like Saudi Arabian princes. Where else did the funds come from?

(Pls see my first post - #2 above -and check all the links therein for more "evidence").

The story is all over Abuja that if u write a petition against Ribadu's favoured clients/friends he would call them and tear the petition in their presence.

What more evidence do you need? For someone in his position, you would expect the HIGHEST level of personnal discipline and above board conduct.

OK. You will ask me to produce the video evidence of all these. I will certainly do so, when you and Ribadu produce the video evidence of the the looters/419ners that he paraded or accused.

Na wa for you o, video evidence ke?
But evidence is not the same as "suspicion" o! Evidence that can be disproved or controvertible is still not evidence sha.
But l agree with you, the law is an ass and evidence gathering in Naija is still at its infancy since ordinary "power supply" to energize the various forensic equipments required for intelligence gathering (as opposed to "them say, them say), is not even available, not to mention the human-knowledge gap among the officers themselves.
Thats why anybody can "manufacture" any lie and get away with it.
May Thunder fire all of them looters.

Have a nice day bro.
10Kobo

[Igboamaeze]

MR 10K, I suspect u read my post while half asleep. I said EL RUFAI not Ribadu. Having said that, I have said elsewhere and wish to say again that if I were FW and UMYA I will shut up NR and his gang of press/PR warriors by trying him for personnal corruption, cover-ups, GROSS AND CRIMINAL INCOMPETENCE, Nepotism and disloyalty.

On Evidence:

I have since noticed we have all turned into overnight legal luminaries. But that is only when it suits us. Someone said - I guess on this thread - that even if u catch a thief koro-koro, the courts will still be asking for eveidence (by the way I know a bit of law and totally agree that we need evidence before conviction, so don't go there).

I have also said elsewhere that NR is the luckiest human being ever created considering his many flaws and the high public rating. I did say that this is the result of what social scientists call informational cascade or herd mentally. It occurs when a mass of people - both the ignorant and the knowledgable - follow a particular point of view for no other reason than that it is popular and/or supported by influential, respected and trusted opinion leaders. The reasons for this are many. You can google "Informational Cascade" for more.

If u insist on evidence here are just a few (I hope NVS is not a court of law,so don't cross examine me. When the authorities try NR the evidence will come pouring in, believe me):

He bought the house of a DIG! A police officer and an anti-corruption warrior!!. He sold the lie - which u all bought- that his father in law paid for it. Who is his father in-law? An original govt pikin who has lived all his life with his mouth on the feeding bottle of public funds.

He "pallies" around with looters ( You can tell that this phrase has been corruptly appropriated by Igboamaeze!). See my first post on this thread. While he was fooling u and the public, that he was hunting for Ibori all over the world, he (NUHU RIBADU!!!!!) was actually enjoying pounded yam and oha soup with Ibori at Andy Uba's - yes. ANDY UBA!!!!! - house in Abuja.

Who bought the recovered assets of 419ners and other looters and on what terms and conditions?

EFCC staff under him were living like Saudi Arabian princes. Where else did the funds come from?

(Pls see my first post - #2 above -and check all the links therein for more "evidence").

The story is all over Abuja that if u write a petition against Ribadu's favoured clients/friends he would call them and tear the petition in their presence.

What more evidence do you need? For someone in his position, you would expect the HIGHEST level of personnal discipline and above board conduct.

OK. You will ask me to produce the video evidence of all these. I will certainly do so, when you and Ribadu produce the video evidence of the the looters/419ners that he paraded or accused.

Like I advised someone else before: I am acutely aware that 99.999% of Nigerians, Americans, Europeans, Asians and Transperancy International officials believe that Ribadu is the best thing that happened to the anti-corruption community in the entire universe but pls do yourself a favour: just look at the yawning realities around you and then maybe - just perhaps - you, 10K will spare yourself the unworthy company of the ignorant majority.

You predicted that Ribadu shall return. Nobody needs a prophet to know that he is certainly coming back in a big way to finish the spin and deception that he started. Ditto for El Rufai! I predict that when next you hear from El Rufai it will not be in defence of the fraud that he committed at MFCT but it will be to scold those who had the guts to question him and to assume a bigger role in gwo'men.

But this is not the first time: remember that Anenih was the most powerful member of the Obj clique nothwithstanding his anticedents. Remember that IBB is still the idol of rogue politicians. Remember that Abacha is still worshipped in death by his loyalists. Nigeria we hail thee.

DISCLAIMER: FW is not any better, before u say she is my girlfriend. I know no looter/419ner. I am only saying that the war against corruption should be just, fair and equitable to all. No scape goats. No sacred cows. I have nothing personal against NR and his favoured clients/sacred cows.

Finally, I agree with you that no matter who takes over EFCC, the story will remain the same. See EFCC: When truth confronts half-fried ideas (#13 and check all the links therein). See also: Resign, Farida Waziri, Resign! (#47). The extent of public corruption is so much that once you step into the public service in Nigeria, corruption overcomes you. Just look at Ribadu. Akin Osuntokun, Femi Fani-Kayode, Obj, etc. By the way where is Segun Adeniyi while all these sleaze are going on?

Think, brother think.

Just think...

NOTE: I have tried to provide all my views on Ribadu, Corruption, EFCC and Farida Waziri in this post. In future, I will direct anyone who replies to my posts on this topic to this post and all the links therein. We need to face other matters of urgent national importance.

ADDENDUM:

Pls see the following links as well:

1. http://ofilis1234.wordpress.com/2007...as-redeployed/

2. http://www.parrotnewsonline.com/inde...&do_pdf=1&id=1

3. http://www.guardiannewsngr.com/news/article20/110108

4. http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/200...ssion-corrupt/

5.

7.February 7th ,2007 12:30 pm

Saharareporters is convinced that the EFCC acted out a script directly dictated by the president to cage his political opponents, contrary to what EFCC has published, we know that some sacred cows like the President daughter-Iyabo Bello-Obasanjo-a senatorial candidate who was recently involved in sourcing oil blocks buyers in Asia and has collected plenty bribes for that purpose was not named, but her popular opponent in the race, Mr. Lanre Tejuosho of the ANPP. Another key person skipped is Emmanuel “Andy” Uba, President Obasanjo’s senior special assistant and governorship candidate in Anambra State, who was caught by US secret service agents for engaging in money laundering that saw him ferry $170,000 into the US on the President’s plane was left out of the list while his opponent, Dr. Chris Ngige was included.
Even, Otunba Alao Akala PDP gubernatorial candidate in Oyo State who Mr. Ribadu publicly accused of corruption a few days ago was not listed neither was Mr. Gbenga Daniel from the President’s home state of Ogun included, it absolutely clear that Ribadu has lost any vestiges of credibility as an impartial anti-corruption fighter. This is the last straw!

— Posted by Omoyele Sowore

6. http://www.sunnewsonline.com/webpage...0-2007-001.htm

[mesonigerian]

Whenever you hear that EFCC or ICPC has put El Rufai on trial, please expect an apology from me for bringing tribe/Igboman into this. Bros, this is the true and real Nigeria. It is sad and bad, but it is unfortunately true.

I hear you- but the truth is El-rufai is obj's boy and not many in the north like the guy, he's seen as incredibly arrogant...the only reason he's not in prison is because of his patron who it seems is also the 'patron' of the president, therefore anytime obj falls be sure of it, el-ruf will follow...

about your insinuation that northerners are not somehow being pursuit by efcc- saminu turaki the ex-gov of jigawa was public humiliated during his arrest and he's a hausaman...tribalism and how its deployed in the context of nigerian politics is with sophistication that goes beyond the primitive logic associated with tribal politics...as the writer said it is the case of you scratch my back and i scratch yours...

...i agree the system needs overhauling but i don't believe that tribalism is the problem and thus where we need to start from...i believe what is holding us back are the leaders who use tribalsim as an essential tool for political rewards and making us believe that tribalism is the crux of our problem...i maybe wrong!

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