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  1. Oct 30, 2007 ,  11:47 PM #1
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    The beneficiaries of judicial magnanimity included Gani Adam and Fasehun of OPC (from South-West), A...Read the full article.

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    What about them? Get it through your head SOB, Al-Mustafha, Bamaiyi and others are not heroes to anyone. These men are self-serving degenerate. I swear, if I were in the same room with any of the men I mentioned, someone will die that day. These men are so destructive that anyone championing their release is worthy of being hanged, as far as I am concerned.

    Al-Mustapha and Bamaiyi thought it was fun and games gunning people down during the regime of Abacha, and now you bas tards are trying to get released. My friend, I pity the person that will champion the release of Al-Mustapha or Bamaiyi in close proximity to me.

    If you bas tards want Al-Mustafha and Bamaiyi, you should hope for a speedy trial so those two can be returned in a body bags. Osh i. I swear, don't annoy me. Stupid degenerate. Death to all those that want Al-Mustapha and Bamaiyi released.

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    Please sir and I repeat myself P-L-E-A-S-E do not insult this distinguish group.
    Where were you when this men arrogated unto themselves the authority of God,
    Where were you when they did and 'undid'.

    Where were you when this men sacrificed the health of Nigeria for Abacha.
    Where were you when this once of whom you speak so highly disregarded the consitution of Nigeria day in day out.
    Al Mustapha would give his defence as he was serving the 'commander in chief'.
    Serving there General, at the expense of there country.
    you now claim they were doing there duty, what is there duty? protect there country or protect Abacha?
    Sir, don't be coy with us, the system that has kept them locked is a system they helped create and perpetuate.

    I ask you are they repentant?
    Will they apologies to the people of this country and come clean not hide behind 'order' and 'instruction'.
    Don't confuse this guys with Fashun, Dokubo and co this men were in the employ of Nigeria and they are accused of felony while on Nigeria's time. That is not acceptable.

    For me I cannot excuse any crime no matter under what guise it is presented.

    Sir, hear this ; we cannot issue out pardons or advocate for people under duress or threat,
    I consider your piece as a threat that if we do not ask that Mustapha and Bamayi be freed the North will take some incredible step.
    If that is the case bring it on...

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    There is a big difference between ACTIVISM and sanctioned MURDER and criminality passing as security.

    If Nigeria was a decent place, al mustapha, Bamaiya and their likes should at least spend their remaining years in jail.


    What exactly is the LOGIC in this article?

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    I think it is decent to ask for the release of Bamayi and co especially when Abacha jnr had been released after making a financial deal with Obasanjo, if there is no case against them they need to be released for the sake of equality and justice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Son of the Delta View Post
    I think it is decent to ask for the release of Bamayi and co especially when Abacha jnr had been released after making a financial deal with Obasanjo, if there is no case against them they need to be released for the sake of equality and justice.
    Financial deal with Obj ? Is that on good authority ?

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    @Afeni, Fxo, Akinyi

    This article was written because of people like you. Murder is murder. Dokubo commited a lot of attrocities but today he is a free man. Al-Mustafa sanctioned the killing of a few people but he is still in jail, why the double standards? Dokubo's group and its offshoots are responsible for the killing of Nigeria's military personnel, If he had been arrested in any reasonable country he would never have seen the light of day again.

    I believe anyone who has been accused of murder should be tried and if found guilty sentenced to death.

    Dokubo should be re-arrested and tried, Al Mustafa and co should also be tried and sentenced. What democracy are you talking about if we have people who have been awaiting trial for 9 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pappilo View Post
    @Afeni, Fxo, Akinyi

    This article was written because of people like you. Murder is murder. Dokubo commited a lot of attrocities but today he is a free man. Al-Mustafa sanctioned the killing of a few people but he is still in jail, why the double standards? Dokubo's group and its offshoots are responsible for the killing of Nigeria's military personnel, If he had been arrested in any reasonable country he would never have seen the light of day again.

    I believe anyone who has been accused of murder should be tried and if found guilty sentenced to death.

    Dokubo should be re-arrested and tried, Al Mustafa and co should also be tried and sentenced. What democracy are you talking about if we have people who have been awaiting trial for 9 years.
    If they like, let them re-arrest Alams, Asari, Adams (yes, I am Yoruba) all I know is that hook or crook, Al Mustapha and Bamaiyi MUST DIE.

    Heck, if it were up to me, the manner in which these two men will die will be to such an extrteme that it will make the cruxifiction of Christ childs play, by comparison.

    And Pappilo, the only reason Al-Mustapha and Bamaiyi are still on trial is because they keep stalling their own case. They know that should they allow the case to proceed, they are heading straight for the gallows. These men have been blowing false alarms about supposedly partial Judges. How can you expect your case to proceed if you don't see any Judge in the Nigerian Judiciary worthy of conducting your trial? If they don't want trial, let them rott in jail. Or do you prefer that they be set free to enjoy the hundreds of million of dollars of ill-gotten loot Abacha gave them to murder pro-democracy elements?

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    How do you stall you own trial for 9 years? they might as well stall it forever. Brings me back to the same thing, In a proper democratic setting you shouldnt be able to get away with stalling your own trial, even saddam wasnt able to stall his trial for that long. Why is Abacha's son free? afterall he was a co-accused with these men. Al-mustafa and bamaiyi are political prisoners in the real sense of it because we all know they were only arrested because of what happened to Objoke when he was in prison!

    I dont have any sympathy for Al-Mustafa and co. What I am echoing is the writers feelings. There is a case of double standards here and it is glaring. Why is dokubo free and Al-Mustafa still in jail. Left to me both will be in prison facing proper trials

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    Quote Originally Posted by pappilo View Post
    How do you stall you own trial for 9 years? they might as well stall it forever. Brings me back to the same thing, In a proper democratic setting you shouldnt be able to get away with stalling your own trial, even saddam wasnt able to stall his trial for that long. Why is Abacha's son free? afterall he was a co-accused with these men. Al-mustafa and bamaiyi are political prisoners in the real sense of it because we all know they were only arrested because of what happened to Objoke when he was in prison!

    I dont have any sympathy for Al-Mustafa and co. What I am echoing is the writers feelings. There is a case of double standards here and it is glaring. Why is dokubo free and Al-Mustafa still in jail. Left to me both will be in prison facing proper trials
    How do you stall your own trial 101, is a course being taught by Al'Mustapha and Bamayi, so if you want the 411 on how that is done, check with them, ok.

    Look don't 'candy tot' this matter, this guys help set us back.
    They helped sustain a system that created Dokubo and Gani Adams and co and also cemented the backwardness of our judicial system. If they are now the beneficiaries of there own creation I am not about to loose any sleep. This were the same people that rode around Nigeria with pomp and pageantry looking down on anyone who was not from the north or didn't speak hausa or wear a military uniform.
    This were the same people who portrayed the Nigerian intellectual as nothing but a pest, a rodent to hunted and fumigated.
    Now you and this author are claiming they are victims, in Nigeria who is not?
    Even my great grand children whose parents are yet to exist already have the victim status confirmed with respect to there ties to Nigeria.
    So please don't play the victim card.
    If anybody needs help and will recieve it , it will be based on the strength of there position and the validity of what they are asking not because they are from the North or South or Muslim or Niger Delta or what ever.

    I particularly do not like the tone of threat contained in the write-up.
    Its high time people from the north learn that the idea that they can always threaten violence and the rest of us will tow there line is a figment of an very nightmarish illusion from an era that will never return.

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    I particularly do not like the tone of threat contained in the write-up.
    Its high time people from the north learn that the idea that they can always threaten violence and the rest of us will tow there line is a by gone era that will never return.
    Talk is cheap my friend. If the boys from the north staged a coup and came back to power today, nothing and I repeat nothing will happen. They will take the whole country on another ride for God knows how long and the whole world will sit by and look.

    I am not trying to make it out like Al-Mustafa and co are victims, all I ask is why the double standards? I even disagree with the writer about releasing the men. What i would rather have is for all the criminal elements in the country who claim to fight for their 'people' rounded up, tried and if found guilty of conspiring in the death of a single person, shot at dawn!

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    [QUOTE=pappilo;2091815373]Talk is cheap my friend. If the boys from the north staged a coup and came back to power today, nothing and I repeat nothing will happen. They will take the whole country on another ride for God knows how long and the whole world will sit by and look.

    I am not trying to make it out like Al-Mustafa and co are victims, all I ask is why the double standards? I even disagree with the writer about releasing the men. What i would


    Pappilo, Sir,

    The subtle threat in the author's write-up spoilt an otherwise fair comment. That said, I agree with you, knowing the predilection of some people to always droll and foam from the mouth whenever asked to collude with the Military, that nothing will will happen if the military came back again and we know that the Nigerian Military is still numerically dominated, perhaps by careful design, by our brethren from the North. I hope we all remember Chief Ernest Shonekan, the greatest military apologist and 'eater of left-over' (apologies to Professor Wole Soyinka - Death and the King's Horseman); the likes of the high Egba chief abound amongst us and are always willing to assist for filthy lucre!

    It is manifestly unfair to condemn the author in the language being deployed by some commentators here. The author has made his point and one may agree or disagree. I take the middle-course. Those men ought to tried speedily now or released based on time spent. However, so should the majority of the other unsung prisoners languishing in our various prisons - they are human beings too! If I may, I would hasten to remind the author that obedience to superior order under the Nigerian Military Law is not a defence to any criminal act - see the Nigerian Manual of Military Law. A lot of junior ranks get into trouble because their superior officers usually disown them when the heat gets to them, e.g. a colonel will deny he ordered his orderly to shoot someone and then add that superior order is not a defence to grievous bodily harm, attempted murder, etc. That lesson came from my experience of serving as a Lawyer with the Military Police at 82 Provost Battalion, Nigerian Army, 82 Division, Enugu in 1988. The author is equally off the mark in canvassing for amnesty based on the fact that we have other murderers on the loose, e.g. the people who sanctioned the murder of Bola Ige - and some of us know them! And the man who sanctioned the death of Dele Giwa, using Halilu Akilu and Tunde Togun! Their days may yet come! There should be no sacred cows - or dogs in the cases of the decrepit men we all know - and all must be subjected to the same standard of justice. I ask too, why the double standard?

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    And the man who sanctioned the death of Dele Giwa, using Halilu Akilu and Tunde Togun! Their days may yet come! There should be no sacred cows - or dogs in the cases of the decrepit men we all know
    Thank you ajimoh. I was going to quote this case of the evil genius but i couldnt remember the name of his errand boys. Thanks for bringing this back.

    I ask the ones asking for the heads of Al-Mustafa and co while forgeting about dokubo, adams and co, what about the evil genius and his henchmen? Why are they free today?

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    with apologies to George Orwell, I guess all animals are equal but some are more 'unequal' than the others...no man gets away with any evil it's only a matter of time. Fouls is just sometimes fair to some people considering it's the only game they play well...where is Sgt Rogers by the way didn't he pull the triger of a helpless Kudirat?..."when the wickced perish there are shouts of joy..."

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    Wasn't Adam tried and exonerated and I think same for Fasheun? Dokubo was a political release. Let Bamaiyi and co go thru the court system. If these Abacha boys had killed the writer's wife, father or brother, I wonder if he would want them release.

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    @ exxcuzme

    I personally know a young lady that was killed in port harcourt 3 months ago in one of the fights started by these so called miltants sponsored by Dokubo. I want to see him stand trial and sentenced to death as well. In a 'real' country there is no such thing as a political release of a criminal.

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    The main issue is why have these guys not been tried yet? Eight years in jail and no trial? Something definitely stinks with our court system. I hope the new Supreme Court cleans up the system.

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    I would have prefered or suggested that this article be written in ARABIC or LATIN.
    Reason:Only few and without a clue of whats going on.
    Sir do you then suggest the F.G release all prisoners in detention.Afterall these people you just mentioned MURDERERS.

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    If Al-mustafha, Bamaiyi and Others want to be released speedily, let them send Sergeant Rogers to kill their mothers. I will personally lead the clamour for their release to go and bury their mothers to avoid double standards.

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    Talk is cheap my friend. If the boys from the north staged a coup and came back to power today, nothing and I repeat nothing will happen. They will take the whole country on another ride for God knows how long and the whole world will sit by and look.
    Its a shame to read the above, so you have even given up before someone even attempts to take away your right and portray your race as lesser humans. Its sad.

    Exactly what are you trying to do, give some barbarians ideas?

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    The write makes the following claim
    "We should not deceive ourselves that the silence of the Northerners is a sign of satisfaction with the incarceration of their kith and kin, they believe in the total obedience to the rule of law."

    I challenge this Sir. The reason most Northenrers have not made noise on this issue, is because most of them DO NOT CARE about these indviduals. Bamaiyi, Al-mustafha and the rest of them were not working for the intrests of the North. Was the Killing of Yar'dua senior in the intrest of the North?, was the removal of Dasuki in the interest of the North? Abacha was a brutal dictator and these were his hencman determined to kill and/or jail anyone who dared to resist him. You cannot make an ethnic case for their release. These man are accused criminals who MUST face the law.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pappilo View Post
    Thank you ajimoh. I was going to quote this case of the evil genius but i couldnt remember the name of his errand boys. Thanks for bringing this back.

    I ask the ones asking for the heads of Al-Mustafa and co while forgeting about dokubo, adams and co, what about the evil genius and his henchmen? Why are they free today?

    Pappilo,

    The evil genius will not be tried, not because he is not guilty but like he said at Oputa Panel - why the time frame? Small question? No, here is the reason.

    At the time of Oputa's panel, Obasanjo would have also had to account for charges against humanity during the civil war, Danjuma (then the minister of defence) would also have had to answer to same crimes and also to what happened to General Ironsi, and on and on including the questionable death sentences that followed many coups and attempted coups, which will bring us to the issue of the killings around the successful coups - from the late brother of the current president having to answer for his roles from 1966-1979 (which may lead to his being stripped of his military honours) to many senators, governors, emirs, chiefs, etc that participated in coups etc.....

    You see that so many ghosts will arise, hence the evil genius sleeps pretty easy knowing that he will only land in jail when it is full of Nigeria's who is who, or remain out of it with them, which ever option presents itself, he remains in same company.

    Let the innocent cast the first stone he insists.

    On the larger issue, I support the call for speedy trial and disposition of all cases pending in our courts irrespective of the nature of the crimes, or the status of the accused. We can't accuse those men of crimes except we stand on a moral high ground.

    Our humanity is diminished and threatened whenever justice is not served, or perceived not to be served.

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    What is the problem with Afeni? Too much bark and no action!..take my advice...stop insulting people..face the issue and make your comments but please there is no ******* in this square! Except if you are!
    Anyone that contributes to the square has his head on his shoulders and has the right to contribute without fear of being called a degenerate or a *******!
    Please grow up or if you need recommendation letter to see a shrink ask the house someone might be able to assist...but please stop the harrasment!
    The issue of being kept behind bars for 8 years without trial is not a joke most especially for an attempted offence! While others that have been charged for serious heinous offences are free men...what more logic or reason do you need to understand what the issue is about...
    We all agree that Almustapha and his gang were terrors during their time...was/are Dokubo,Fasehun, Uwazurike, Ganiyu Adams they not? but they are free men today!
    Afeni please keep the issue at a level of matured discuss!

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    This is about morality, fairness, precedence and justice on criminal cases, no matter the ethnic backgrounds of those involved. Lately the judiciary has granted bails to suspects charged with treasonable felony. Some of the beneficiaries of judicial magnanimity included Ganiyu Adam and Frederick Fasehun of the Odua Progressive Congress (OPC) in the South-West, Asari Dokubo and Ateke Tom of militant Niger Delta groups in South-South and now Ralph Uwazuruike of the Movement for the Actualization of the Sovereign State of Biafra (MASSOB) in the South-eastern Nigeria . The only political detainees yet to be released after more than 8 years in cells are the security officers who served the Abacha regime and mostly from the Northern Nigeria .

    .................
    Who wrote this? Is this some kind of a wind-up? Comparing apples and oranges here!!

    Al-mustafa and his group are not political detainees. They are charged with murder of a few people and the attempted murder of Chief Ibru. Political detainees indeed!!

    Look; granted, these people have spent way too long in custody awaiting proper trail; but that is the fault of the Nigerian juducial system. Unfortunately, there are many many more poor souls in jails across the country that have been awaiting trail even longer. Furthermore, my understanding is that it was the accused lawyers that were initially stalling the trail process thinking they were buying time for a "political solution" to be effected. Unfortunately for them and their clients, they were trying this stupidity under OBJ's watch. Once Mohammed Abacha that was let go in exchange for refunding some of the money his family looted reneged on the agreement, OBJ was never going to be approached again for further tomfoolery.

    As the writer wrote "let us not deceive ourselves": the millitants and others named by him in his write up were rounded up and herded into detention by OBJ because he wanted a clear path to rig the 2007 election. Period. Asari Dokubo for instance was tricked to Abuja and flown-in on a Presidential jet. No specific charges were proferred against them.

    Can we please remove ethnic blinkers when we approach significant matters.

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    Ex- DIG shoots wife
    From NWAGBO NNENYELIKE, Ilorin
    Thursday, October 25, 2007

    A retired Deputy Inspector-General of Police (DIG), Christopher Yekini Jimoh, has shot his wife, Folashade, in Amir Hotel, Kaduna Road, in Adewole Estate Area of Ilorin, Kwara State over a minor quarrel. Up to four bullets were logged in her body even as the whereabouts of the husband is unknown since the incident.

    It is feared that the woman, who is the third wife of the retired police officer, may not survive the gunshot. Daily Sun gathered that she was unconscious and was rushed to the Emergency ward of the University of Ilorin Teaching Hospital (UITH). People were not allowed to see her as she was said to be in very critical condition.

    But a doctor, who preferred not to be named, said because she was receiving intensive care, she could not be exposed to visitors. Police officers were seen guarding the entrance. It was learnt that the presence of security in the hospital stemmed from fear that the former DIG may come back and attack the wife again.

    An eyewitness, who saw when the woman was being rushed to the hospital from the hotel, said the way she was shot showed that the man did not want her to live. The immediate cause of the quarrel was unknown, but those who heard the shouting match said the DIG was accusing his wife of infidelity.

    Another source close to Daily Sun disclosed that the retired police officer, who hail from Ogun State, checked into the hotel since Thursday with the wife. Both of them were going out and coming in together. But at 10 am Tuesday, their voices became high. The next thing that was heard was the sound of gunshots. Then the woman shouted several times. The retired police officer was said to have left the hotel immediately.

    When the hotel attendants rushed into the room, they saw the woman in the pool of her own blood. They rushed her to the UITH.

    Meanwhile, Daily Sun gathered that the sum of about N190, 000 was discovered in the Hotel when the place was searched by the police.

    All efforts to get police reaction from Gideon Markus, the Police Public Relations Officer (PPRO) in Kwara State, proved abortive as he could not be reached. His second in command, Simire Hilary, denied knowledge of the case.

    When Alhaji Lanre Jimoh, the second in command Criminal Investigation Department CID, was contacted on phone, he said, “I am not aware of that o!”

    When Daily Sun visited the hotel in Adewole Estate, people were seen discussing the ugly incident in hushed tones.
    http://www.sunnewsonline.com/webpage...0-2007-006.htm
    Sounds like pre-meditated attempted murder here but guess what?, the man is out on bail of N50,000!

    So bail is still possible in Nigeria even for the most serious crimes such as treasonable felony, as Uwazuirike and Asari Gbomo found . Just find the right Judge who speaks your language or the language of your sympathisers and Bob's your uncle. It also helps if the government is under political pressure of sorts.


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