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| Segun Adeniyi And The Village Square Trap Segun Adeniyi And The Village Square Trap By Uche Nworah
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| Re: Segun Adeniyi And The Village Square Trap
Most of your advice to Segun is in good stead, I really also do not see why he has to come respond to anyone on this or another website. I found it a bit unnecessary and you were on point with your obxervations. However, regardless of what his minders tell him, the man has a mind of his own. I understand that he was influenced by some villagers including the likes of Taslim Anibaba to write his own account of his capacity building tour to America, i don’t know how true this is
I can categorically tell you that the above is not true...
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| Re: Segun Adeniyi And The Village Square Trap When I was in college I was told that UN means United Nations and that in the chambers of the UN people speak with two sides of their mouths. I was also misled to believe that Ambassadors speak before they think. Half truths and half lies fly around the UN Plaza just as in cyberspace...
Well I arrived NVS and met a chap based in the UK , who ignores those not in his circle. Why not, I would do just the same, especially if I have my mouth to brand and my book to sell. That man is also a UN and he writes well...so you do not know Uche Nworah? Remember the profile he did on one Abrax, the writer with a mask?
NVS has one hell of UN....I hope he did not attend University of Nigeria that will be it
As to your suggestions to Segun Adeniyi, my brother save your ink, people like Segun WILL NOT listen to those he does not know. Give your suggestions to Empowered or to the Head and tail of the Hausa Service at VOA and watch the ease of adoption
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| Re: Segun Adeniyi And The Village Square Trap Okay! Where is this discussion going?. Sound more like Uche is cleaning his goods for sale!.
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| Re: Segun Adeniyi And The Village Square Trap Originally Posted by Robot
Segun Adeniyi presented this perfect opportunity with his recent article on NVS. The first one perhaps not intentionally as it was courtesy of Laolu Akande’s Empowered Newswire. But obviously, by penning the second essay titled, why the hell am i here?, he was inviting trouble.
How then could Segun Adeniyi have gone about it? Well, first Segun Adeniyi was not well advised by his minders or associates who advised him to state his case on NVS in the manner that it was done. That should have been a no-no. I understand that he was influenced by some villagers including the likes of Taslim Anibaba to write his own account of his capacity building tour to America, i don’t know how true this is but it is still early days for Segun Adeniyi’s tour of duty memoirs. Nigerians are still licking their wounds so there is no point in scratching the wound at this time, let the wounds heal first. Segun Adeniyi is the person the people know; therefore he should operate more through other people in his communications office at Aso rock. Such people may not attract the type of venoms he attracted. And there is no need to attempt to defend himself always, or even the president anytime someone criticises him or the president. He should know that people are not buying such feeble defences. Sometimes in communication, one should hope to ride the storm rather than utter a rebuttal. Rebuttals encourage more criticisms, let actions speak.
Segun Adeniyi should consider assuming a pseudonym at least for now when next he is stopping over at NVS, or even on any of the other Nigerian media channels where he has been defending the government, and his reasons for accepting to serve in the government. Pseudonyms and monikers are commonly accepted and standard practices in several of these Nigerian e-media platforms. That way, he could easily slip in and out without attracting much attention. From such undercover vantage positions, he could easily feel the pulse of the Nigerian internet community, the issues that are important to them, what they think of the government and its policies, then he would be able to advice his principal appropriately.
Finally, he should go ahead and enjoy his ‘good fortune’, he does not owe anybody an apology or explanation for accepting to serve as the President’s spokesperson, it is entirely his prerogative.
So he should operate through you, abi?
I can swear, Uche, you are looking for contract in Abuja. The guy stood up, tall, with nothing to hide, and you are telling him to hide and seek and lie next time he wants to propaganda the illegal govt of Yara dua? Was it the way you were paid to launder the certificate forger, Andy Uba's image?
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| Re: Segun Adeniyi And The Village Square Trap Originally Posted by Exxcuzme
I can swear, Uche, you are looking for contract in Abuja. The guy stood up, tall, with nothing to hide, and you are telling him to hide and seek and lie next time he wants to propaganda the illegal govt of Yara dua? Was it the way you were paid to launder the certificate forger, Andy Uba's image?
Well look like you saw it too Exxcuzme, something is fishy here.
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| Re: Segun Adeniyi And The Village Square Trap Originally Posted by Omowa2 When I was in college I was told that UN means United Nations and that in the chambers of the UN people speak with two sides of their mouths. I was also misled to believe that Ambassadors speak before they think. Half truths and half lies fly around the UN Plaza just as in cyberspace...
Well I arrived NVS and met a chap based in the UK , who ignores those not in his circle. Why not, I would do just the same, especially if I have my mouth to brand and my book to sell. That man is also a UN and he writes well...so you do not know Uche Nworah? Remember the profile he did on one Abrax, the writer with a mask?
NVS has one hell of UN....I hope he did not attend University of Nigeria that will be it
As to your suggestions to Segun Adeniyi, my brother save your ink, people like Segun WILL NOT listen to those he does not know. Give your suggestions to Empowered or to the Head and tail of the Hausa Service at VOA and watch the ease of adoption
Omowa2 Hi, Mr. Omowa2!
You go and enquire from the blighter how much his attention-seeking gambit costed him vis-a-vis the backlash, and resultant subsequent complete pulverisation of his ego on the Square, by me.
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| Re: Segun Adeniyi And The Village Square Trap Never believed your much discussed butt licking proclivity till now. Man mi, you've certainly lost the plot!
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| Re: Segun Adeniyi And The Village Square Trap Most of us who commented on Laolu Akande's write-up on Segun Adeniyi's proposed tutorial in the US. The focus was simply that rather than understudying the White House officials (which we all suspected was aimed at idirecting legitimising Yar'Adua' administration), the presidency could as well employ qualified professionals who would do the necessary training in-house.
However, Uche's present opinion seems misdirected. It seems there are more to it than meets eye.
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| Re: Segun Adeniyi And The Village Square Trap Alternative media is a tool for advocacy and it has empowered citizens in a democratic society to counter government propaganda. But then democracy is also a tool that enables participation of all stakeholders. As such, I won't encourage spying, neither would I encourage clandestine activities by Segun Adeniyi.
Internet and its associated media gives him an opportunity to reach a mass audience hitherto forgotten by policy makers. The low level of robust discussion within Nigeria's public space, especially the way traditional media frames debate has made it necessary that citizens move to the web and collectively frame issues.Unlike the TV, and the newspaper that speaks at you, this new medium is interactive - it is real time, and everyone has an opinion to share and can participate in the dialogue. It has a feedback mechanism.
Technology has empowered citizens to be participants and commentators without making of choices earlier reserved for editors of newspapers. It is a liberating form of communication.Hence, the notion and the practices of traditional media practitioners have to be shed. They should embrace debate and through forums like this learn in record time the culture of democracy.
Segun Adeniyi should participate in debates if he can, it helps serve as psychological relief for many frustrated Nigerians ( those that have ideas and those that think they have) to participate in a free for all exchange. It is Segun's way of being accountable to the masses , or stakeholders in the project called Nigeria.
It is encourages openness, transparency and accountability in information dissemination. It is through debate that we can know the weakness or strengths of a policy. As an aside,
I didn't think you did too badly here Uche, but your main argument might be misplaced. Segun Adeniyi should at every opportunity hold himself up for scrutinity. It helps the culture of democracy thrive better in our society. Sometimes people forget it is not about the person, but about the office he represents.
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| Re: Segun Adeniyi And The Village Square Trap On a very personal note, I strongly disagree with the suggestion that Mr. Adeniyi should use a pseudonym.
People should be able to own up to what they represent or stand for, at any given point in time.
What is the point of hiding behind a pseudonym?
That said, I don't like his job! He must tell lies to justify the position of his master. He must write and say things against the flow of his conscience. That is a real burden.
But it was his decision to serve in an illegitimate govt. It was his decision to tell Nigerians that black is white.
It will be interesting to read from him again so that we know where he is taking his next course and how many unit(s) it would be. Did he pass his course in USA?
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| Re: Segun Adeniyi And The Village Square Trap "On a very personal note, I strongly disagree with the suggestion that Mr. Adeniyi should use a pseudonym"
Ha! Are you sure that UN does not use pseudonyms too..maybe he is the Abrax , I do not fail to notice the quick response from Abrax we cannot KNOW
This cyberspace without faces...make this no turn to cybercraze o
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| Re: Segun Adeniyi And The Village Square Trap Mba, Mba, Mba, Uche,
SA, the SA to UMYA on Communications shld not adopt any pseudonmys b4 appearing on the NVS. Please let him keep showing up for real because recall I had to ask NVS Admin during his Second Missionary Journey to the NVS if this was actually SA writing.
I admire his courage and candour in facing this Square made up of eminient villagers. We do not criticise just for the sake of it. We love our Fatherland and having lived abroad cannot see why it should be raped fanta - stically by the likes of Etteh and co.
As for friendly fire we do discharge but we have refused to sit and sing while Nigeria slides or sleep walks into a Somalia or Sudan.   |
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Yep. Right on the head. Couldn't have put it better meself.
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| Re: Segun Adeniyi And The Village Square Trap Uche,who is zooming who here?How do you know Segun isn't already an established villager? I salute Mr Adeniyi for the postcard from Washington and hope he continues to dialogue with his fellow countrymen and women.I look forward to his postcard from New York.
My worry is that Uche has not been the same since the blow on his head and the loss of his laptop.
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| Re: Segun Adeniyi And The Village Square Trap Uche, thanks for trying to provide this soft landing. Segun’s redemption during his capacity building ordeal derives from being man enough to face the village square to make his case without a pseudo name - that induced public sympathy, betrayed his seeming innocence and helped shore up what was left of his shattered integrity as opposed to the deception of charlatans and ethnic jingoists masquerading as friends, whose arguments did more harm and further caused an outpour of public venom against an ill-advised trip.
The only capacity Segun has built from this trip is his new understanding of public zero tolerance for erring office holders or deceitful politicians or a president’s image-maker who cannot separate his public responsibility from a political ambition. He has a second chance…..he had better hit the road running this time. The villiage square will pay particular attention to whatever he does from now. There is no room for a “student driver” in the present political dispensation.
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| Re: Segun Adeniyi And The Village Square Trap It appears Segun Adeniyi's "friends" at Thisday newspapers were hurt real bad by the strident criticism of his misadventure (travelling abroad to learn to communicate) by Villagers and have, it appears, in anger been throwing tantrums at all Nigerians in diaspora (Dele Momodu's recent piece and an incoherent current one from Simon Kolawole). While I do agree with the letter and spirit of Momodu's piece, with the benefit of hindsight, the timing of the piece now appears quite suspect.
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| Re: Segun Adeniyi And The Village Square Trap Uche:
You wrote a piece that should have hitherto been a masterpiece had you not wantonly concluded that "Segun should adopt a pseudonym". My brother, honestly, you were making sense until you parochially injecting that asinine banality into the discourse.
Whilst I vehemently disagree with Segun's posturing and grandstanding in the NVS, especially the way he deliberately misrepresented me in his travelogue by attributing falsehood to me, I still believe he is entitled to his own opinion. He has every right to show up in the Villagesquare the best way he deems fit.
Why ain't you using a pseudonym, rather than using your real name - Uche??? My brother, stop preaching what you don't practice in this Villagesquare. Enough of this nonsense.
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I think you quoted me out of context. Here are my exact words and please note the sections in bold. Segun Adeniyi should consider assuming a pseudonym at least for now when next he is stopping over at NVS, or even on any of the other Nigerian media channels where he has been defending the government, and his reasons for accepting to serve in the government. Pseudonyms and monikers are commonly accepted and standard practices in several of these Nigerian e-media platforms. That way, he could easily slip in and out without attracting much attention. From such undercover vantage positions, he could easily feel the pulse of the Nigerian internet community, the issues that are important to them, what they think of the government and its policies, then he would be able to advice his principal appropriately. |
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| Re: Segun Adeniyi And The Village Square Trap hi UN,
who is under fire now?
last month it was adeniyi.
last week it was petraus.
now it is...
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