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Old Jul 8, 2007 , 08:36 AM   # 1 (permalink)
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Max Siollun Says…
'' If Buhari and Idiagbon had been allowed to stay in office for as long as Babangida did, they would have changed Nigeria forever – for the better. As usual, Nigerians have only themselves to blame for creating the circumstances that led to their downfall. ''


Nonsense .Absolute Nonsense. Buhari-Idiagbon military regime with other military junta are complete aberration and their misdeed should not be eulogies in any way. Military occupation by its nature is highly antithetical to the governance of civil society. They forced their ways into governance of the civil society and succeeded in militarizing the psyche of the civil society. They came into governance with the pretext that they want to rid the civil society of corruption but they succeeded in enriching themselves and making themselves an emergent bourgeois oppressing the civil society today. Most retired army Generals are among the richest class of people in Nigeria today. So what are you talking about? THE BEST OTHRODOX FOR DEMOCRACY IS TO ALLOW MORE DEMOCRACY.
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Old Jul 8, 2007 , 09:02 AM   # 2 (permalink)
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Hi, folks!

If some 20 years after subverting the Nigerian constitution by overthrowing the democratically elected government of His Excellency Shehu Aliyu Shagari (GCFR) via a coup d'etat, Major General Muhammadu Buhari still showed, and continues to show interest in becoming the president of Nigeria, then, there can be no other explanation for his actions apart from personal ambition. Period!

Just like Ibrahim Gbadamosi Babangida, Olusegun Okikiolakan Obasanjo, David Mark, et al, Muhammadu Buhari is the product of a cabal of power sadists that were hatched in the barracks of the Nigerian armed forces in post-civil war Nigeria. Chikena!

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Old Jul 8, 2007 , 09:23 AM   # 3 (permalink)
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This is an absurd claim. The years of the military regimes in Nigeria are wasted opportunities for Nigeria to evolve as a nation.

I am saddened that in spite of the atrocities and rape of our nation committed by the likes of Babaginda they are still given opportunities to lord it over us.

Look at shameless Buhari, rushing to the election tribunal to seek justice. Did he ever respect any court verdict when he was in power?

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Old Jul 8, 2007 , 10:35 AM   # 4 (permalink)
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Buhari and Idiagbon being ousted from power was good riddance to bad rubbish. What, with all the flogging and beating of people who did not stay in line at the bus stop and all the falsehood which those two crazy soldiers shovel fed us? I even remember all the security wahala we were taken through during their time when the nation's currency was to be changed!! There was a certain custom office by the name of Atiku Abubakar who had noticed 55(?) suitcases of the new mint being ushered in by Buhari's ADC. It was supposedly for the Emir of somewhere. Nigerians never really forget. They just turn their faces in good faith. So can someone in this square please tell me the who missed the 'opportunities'? Nigerians or Buhari and Idiagbon?

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Old Jul 8, 2007 , 03:24 PM   # 5 (permalink)
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Dear Max,

Please clarify if Buhari is from Sokoto or Katsina. Read between the lines and correct your double talk. Maybe he is not even a Nigerian! We are used to hearing that our military spoilers are foreigners.


We did not miss any opportunity in any military regime. The function of the military is to defend the country and not governance.


It should be possible to instil discipline in the society without the use of force. It is a question of good leadership: one with purpose, vision and mission. This is the problem we have in Nigeria.

We can actually make Nigerian great if our present puppet can, for example, get our monies back from Buhari and others who enriched themselves in the evil regime.

Our puppet can also be golden if he put Babangida on trial for stealing our money esp during the gulf war.

Doing things right under a democratic dispensation is the ONLY way to greatness.

I will say again that if we ignore the past in the present, the future of Nigeria WILL NEVER be GREAT

Put all the thieves on trial, prosceute all corrupt past and present politicians, put them to jail, rights all wrong (or as many as possible), set the society on merits and not federal character, give the job to the best man....

We don't need a military rule or style.

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Old Jul 8, 2007 , 03:56 PM   # 6 (permalink)
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I've enjoyed Siollum's straight historical essays, but this analytical piece is something else. While I will concede that Nigeria needed resolute leadership after the rudderless Shagari administration, Buhari's tenure was heavy on brute discipline and short on vision. That administration (and by extension, the military) was arrogant and disrespectful to the point of cowing Nigerians. That is not how to prepare the ground for the return the democracy. As far as I am concerned, they did violence to our collective psyche. Fighting corruption is one thing, but it is quite another to chart sophisticated routes to grow the economy, expand democratic space, and generally develop the nation. Buhari et al were drill sergeants, not statesmen. At the end of the day we had Bonaparte without Bonapartism.

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Old Jul 8, 2007 , 06:18 PM   # 7 (permalink)
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many of Nigeria’s print houses were then owned by the multi-billionaire businessman/politician: the late Moshood Abiola).

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How many print media were those? Newswatch and Concord......what others?

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Old Jul 8, 2007 , 06:36 PM   # 8 (permalink)
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Like it or not. Buhari is not corrupt and does not tolerate corruption. Which a major issue for Nigeria. This came from Obasanjo himself . Anytime, the issue of corruption crops up, the only ammunition his critics have is the issue of 53 suitcases coming through lagos airport on a domestic flight. The accusation that he is religiously or ethnically biased has never come from anyone he has worked with. Seeing that his entire career is in the public sector wouldnt that have manifested? Buhari is not in the good books of the press period. But I do not have any doubts as to him being better than OBJ or Yaradua. Yaradua is just proving to be another Shagari, a reluctant puppet with no teeth. I hope I am proven wrong for the sake of the masses. But nothing has happened yet.

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Old Jul 8, 2007 , 07:35 PM   # 9 (permalink)
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LACK OF INERTIA TO ENFORCE THE LAW IS THE MAJOR PROBLEM OF THE NIGERIAN SYSTEM. Buhari is a great Nigerian who has the will to enforce the rules in a sound economic, political and social policies. He has made his mistakes but still remains one of the best options for Nigeria. He remains incorruptible. He has vision for a prosperous Nigeria. This guy is honest and disciplined. He is a great patriot, a true nigerian with fear of God. Look gentlemen you cannot castigate this man and his deputy Tunde Idiagbon and expect to get my support because I was there when it happened. This man realized his mistakes and has been taking measures to fix it. However am not sure if he is a completely reformed democrat. An example is that I expected him to join his party ANPP in the bad majority decision to work with the illegitimate government of Yaradua because that is what democracy is all about.............Majority carries the vote. Anyway he has an option to quit or reform the party if it does not conform to the principles which he believes in.

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Old Jul 8, 2007 , 08:14 PM   # 10 (permalink)
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Hi, folks!

If some 20 years after subverting the Nigerian constitution by overthrowing the democratically elected government of His Excellency Shehu Aliyu Shagari (GCFR) via a coup d'etat, Major General Muhammadu Buhari still showed, and continues to show interest in becoming the president of Nigeria, then, there can be no other explanation for his actions apart from personal ambition. Period!

Just like Ibrahim Gbadamosi Babangida, Olusegun Okikiolakan Obasanjo, David Mark, et al, Muhammadu Buhari is the product of a cabal of power sadists that were hatched in the barracks of the Nigerian armed forces in post-civil war Nigeria. Chikena!

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Old Jul 8, 2007 , 08:15 PM   # 11 (permalink)
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Like it or not. Buhari is not corrupt and does not tolerate corruption. Which a major issue for Nigeria. This came from Obasanjo himself . Anytime, the issue of corruption crops up, the only ammunition his critics have is the issue of 53 suitcases coming through lagos airport on a domestic flight. The accusation that he is religiously or ethnically biased has never come from anyone he has worked with. Seeing that his entire career is in the public sector wouldnt that have manifested? Buhari is not in the good books of the press period. But I do not have any doubts as to him being better than OBJ or Yaradua. Yaradua is just proving to be another Shagari, a reluctant puppet with no teeth. I hope I am proven wrong for the sake of the masses. But nothing has happened yet.
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Old Jul 8, 2007 , 08:31 PM   # 12 (permalink)
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A war can be won with arms but people can not be rule nor lead by the power of gun,
We only missed living under horror of guns, military or military turned civilian, we have seen the only miracle they can do: From 20th richest to one of the 20th poorest... Great public fund deviators...just name it, when the man is armed he is nothing more than a harm to people under him, from London to Berlin, pass through Madrid and go to any where this video tells you all:… no way for excuse: http://www.youtube.com/view_play_lis...0E0721612E0E8D
nunca mais dictadura...

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Old Jul 8, 2007 , 08:32 PM   # 13 (permalink)
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all they talk about is the 53 abi 55 suitcases,

should i start with the other alternatives,

let us start with obj and the 2 billion that went missing under him,

let us talk about ottah farm , its sheer size and how much it cost to build the farm in the first place

let us talk about how the land was acquired in the first place.

let us talk about the people the man shot for stealing eggs in his farm while he stole from the nation

okay let us talk about babangida

looting of the public treasury became an art

let us talk about the presidents wife who owns 40 percent of texaco nigeria

let us talk about a president who presided over a nation in the throes of sap and could still loot while the masses were suffering.

let us talk about the gulf war oil windfall

let us talk about the ibb loot generally

okay forget about ibb in this instance

let us talk about sani abacha

let us talk about julius berger that was paid will crude oil let us talk about mohammed abacha that used the presidential jet to fly from abuja to kano because the aboki suya in abuja just could not make suya as good as those in kano

let us talk about saro wiwa

let us talk about how diya was set up

let us talk about a president who flies in indian prostitutes

let us talk about a sick president who did not know that sex and the physical exertion that came with it was not good for him ,

let us talk about a president and his minister for fct that conducted themselves like young boys who had just discovered the joys of sex

let us talk about a president who could not even conduct himself in a matter that would preserve his life and ended dying as a result

let us talk about the abacha loot

let us talk about abdusalam who stayed such a short time but the looting was enormous

let us talk about obj

i dont need to say anything

fellow nigerians bear witness

you think buhari is bad

okay let us talk about

nigeria where delta state sends out 200 students on scholarship to europe ,

most dont return ,

those who do are told there is really nothing for them to do as the civil service is overstaffed

let us talk about ogun state that spends 6 million naira each on its students on scholarships and these never return home

let us talk about nigerians who cannot buy fuel from filling stations without getting rowdy and chaotic

let us talk about nigerians who manage to block both entrance and exit even when they are sure there is fuel and they can buy it .

let us talk about perm secs who come to work by 10.30 and leave by 2

let us talk about doctors who come to work by 11 from their private clinics where they have been since 7 am and leave the govt hospital by 2

let us talk about hospitals littered across the country with no staff while the staff simply dont come to work .



what is wrong with all of you who think we dont need somebody like buhari

how do you propose we arrest the rot

how do you propose we stop children of commisioners from attending campus parties with govt official cars

how do you propose we move forward

how


history is repeating itself

a ghost of shagari is in power only this time not only is he weak , he is being controlled

benevolent dictator where are you ...................................

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Old Jul 8, 2007 , 08:42 PM   # 14 (permalink)
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We did not miss any opportunity in the military years and will never miss them.

The nigerian military years are a stain in our quest to nationhood and those years are real lost years for us as people moreover judging from the fact that the duo of Buhari and Idiagbon institutionalised the long period of waste and decay that is haunting our quest for political and economic development.

The likes of Buhari and late Idiagbon down to IBB, Abacha and Abubakar should be tried for war against Nigerian people and appropriate penalties and sactions meted to them and how about banishing this people from the land called Nigeria?

La verita' fa male!!!!

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A war can be won with arms but people can not be rule nor lead by the power of gun,
We only missed living under horror of guns, military or military turned civilian, we have seen the only miracle they can do: From 20th richest to one of the 20th poorest... Great public fund deviators...just name it, when the man is armed he is nothing more than a harm to people under him, from London to Berlin, pass through Madrid and go to any where this video tells you all:… no way for excuse: http://www.youtube.com/view_play_lis...0E0721612E0E8D
nunca mais dictadura...

..you're truly a great warrior...bro! thanks

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We did not miss any opportunity in the military years and will never miss them.

The nigerian military years are a stain in our quest to nationhood and those years are real lost years for us as people moreover judging from the fact that the duo of Buhari and Idiagbon institutionalised the long period of waste and decay that is haunting our quest for political and economic development.

The likes of Buhari and late Idiagbon down to IBB, Abacha and Abubakar should be tried for war against Nigerian people and appropriate penalties and sactions meted to them and how about banishing this people from the land called Nigeria?

La verita' fa male!!!!
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Old Jul 8, 2007 , 09:16 PM   # 17 (permalink)
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As to Buhari's state of origin. He is listed under Katsina AND Sokoto because back when Buhari was head of state, Katsina State did not exist. The area today known as Katsina state was part of then Sokoto state.

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We did not miss any opportunity in the military years and will never miss them.

the duo of Buhari and Idiagbon institutionalised the long period of waste and decay that is haunting our quest for political and economic development.
La verita' fa male!!!!
My friend you don't know what you are talking about. I was there when it happened, this two distinguished nigerians did what was required at that time to rescue Nigeria. I remember clearly that Nigeria was a decayed compost unfit to be called a nation. Just like it is happening now in your very eyes, political and economic growth was non existent, social order was lacking, corruption was overwhelming, sabotage and infrastructural decay was unbelivable, people are hungry and dying of under nutrition in the mist of plenty until Buhari and Idiagbon arrived the scene to clean the mess. Granted they may have made their mistakes, but they arrested the slow death of Nigeria. Compare them to an oncologist trying to cure a deadly cancer with chemotherapy, you will have alopecia,asthenia,nausea, lowered immunity etc but eventually recover from it thereby saving you from death in the first place. Buhari and Idiagbon openned our eyes to what was possible in Nigeria, even the possiblilty of a genuine political development which you are enjoying today.

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As to Buhari's state of origin. He is listed under Katsina AND Sokoto because back when Buhari was head of state, Katsina State did not exist. The area today known as Katsina state was part of then Sokoto state.

Max,

Katsina used to be part of the then Kaduna State. Sokoto State gave birth to Zamfara and Kebbi.

Here is a map of the then 12 States
http://www.lagos-ahk.de/Graphs/Ng12StatesEn.jpg

And here are the 36 states today

http://www.nipc-nigeria.org/nigeria/Nigeria-states.png

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