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Ishola Taiwo
Jun 14, 2010, 02:08 PM
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Eja,

Your last comment changes nothing. If anything, it reinforces my view that you know very little about the psychology of sports nay football.

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Kenn baba!! E don rish to talk "psychology of sport" now? Okay, maybe by de time una lose again, you go begin talk about de horticulture of sport, yea football - "...ummm well you see, de grass was wrong; its testchure was not acclimatised to our running style and, de lent was unadaptable to our several modus of dribbling...ummm yes...all of science was against us you see...psychology, zoology, biology, chemistry, physics, even de literature and linguistics of sports was against us..."



Nonetheless, I'll enjoy watching you dump your newly-acquired Bavarian accent and, of course, your hype-induced support for your new national team whenever they get dumped out of the competition WITHOUT WINNING the ultimate price. And please, when that happens, I hope I wouldn't be hearing you offering any excuses for your beloved Germans then....


Any bad wishes fashioned against my dear (dear) Germans shall wither on de vine in Odins name! And you know something else Kenn? this is where I would have threatened your team with a thrashing if they met us but, it is very unlikely that our paths will cross in this tournament. Afta all, una only get a few more days to go before una enter okada begin return home...:lol:

However, count yourselves lucky that for now, you only have to endure torture at the hands of South Koreans and Greeks becos na basket-ball score una for carry comot if una meet Deutchland. My German strikers are not like those blank-firing Argentinians. If we see chance, we score. Dat is how we do it in da schikelgrubbing hood..

"Deutchland Deutchland Uber Alles...."

Even our national anthem better pass your own - "Arise O compatriots..." De ting sound laik viagra advert...and we know de type of people who need viagra...:biggrin:

Mikky jaga
Jun 14, 2010, 02:19 PM
Meanwhile, Netherlands beat Denmark 2:0

Mikky jaga
Jun 14, 2010, 02:32 PM
Meanwhile, Netherlands beat Denmark 2:0

How does this concern Nigeria, you asked. Good question, I say. But, wait till you read the comment below:


Sweden have failed to even score (home and away) in qualifiers against main rivals Denmark and Portugal and Lagerbäck, who has coached the national side since 2000, has come under increasing fire despite managing to guide the team to the last five major football championships.

The world laughs at us whenever they see Lagerbehind on our bench.

Kenn
Jun 14, 2010, 03:03 PM
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Eja,

As I said, I am not going to bother discussing what you evidently cannot understand with you or with anyone else who has your mentality about this issue.

Enjoy the rest of the World Cup, my friend!


CHEERS!
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Mikky jaga
Jun 14, 2010, 03:52 PM
Cameroun is lagging behind by a lone goal. No serious threat to the Japanese keeper for now. Etoo is just any ordinary passenger on the field.

Na wah for Cameroun!!

Ajibs
Jun 14, 2010, 04:02 PM
N.A.R.,

What's your point exactly?

Later

If you do not get the point, then you do not know football and I certainly do not know where to start teaching you. If you do not understand what it means to keep the fire power of Argentina at bay for almost the entire game, where do you want me to start? Maybe here: go and take a look at the just concluded league and competition goal tallies from the following players: Messi, Tevez, Milito and Higuain.

Now for you and your man, my borda Mikky Jaja, Hope you saw this comment:


Heading into their next game in Group B against Greece, Etuhu praised the influence of coach Lars Lagerback, who took over the Super Eagles in February.

"Usually when I play for my country it's not as organised as it was yesterday (Saturday).

"We didn't go out there to just play we actually had a game plan and we stuck together. For the first time in a long time you could see that we had some sort of coaching."

If you like call it colomentality again rather than face the truth. This is the second player on record to speak against their last coaching experience.

Mikky jaga
Jun 14, 2010, 04:32 PM
"We didn't go out there to just play we actually had a game plan and we stuck together. For the first time in a long time you could see that we had some sort of coaching."

Actually, that is the point!! Inexperienced players (i.e. U13, u17 etc) need some sort of coaching, but experienced players have gone beyond that, they only need a manager.

But it is agreed that majority of the present crop of players are not in the category of experienced players. They still need to be taught a thing as basic as the need to stick together.

Amodu really tried, winning Bronze with such crap of players.

Uwaa Sef
Jun 14, 2010, 04:34 PM
I was almost brought to tears (out of envy), just watching Ghana play against Serbia. It would have been a different case if we played like Ghana and lost, but no, we're busy being Lagerbeer apologists. God forbid bad thing!

Later

oluomo
Jun 14, 2010, 04:35 PM
Wow
Olu this na ya eyes?
longest time

Nne I dey o. Na world cup na. I go see you after world cup you hear?:wink: Abeg somebody pass me my Budlite ojare. :hail:

oluomo
Jun 14, 2010, 04:40 PM
This is football. statistics == Irrelevant. :)

Yeah Right. Tell that to Robert Green:wink:

denker
Jun 14, 2010, 05:46 PM
Kenn baba!! E don rish to talk "psychology of sport" now? Okay, maybe by de time una lose again, you go begin talk about de horticulture of sport, yea football - "...ummm well you see, de grass was wrong; its testchure was not acclimatised to our running style and, de lent was unadaptable to our several modus of dribbling...ummm yes...all of science was against us you see...psychology, zoology, biology, chemistry, physics, even de literature and linguistics of sports was against us..."



Any bad wishes fashioned against my dear (dear) Germans shall wither on de vine in Odins name! And you know something else Kenn? this is where I would have threatened your team with a thrashing if they met us but, it is very unlikely that our paths will cross in this tournament. Afta all, una only get a few more days to go before una enter okada begin return home...:lol:

However, count yourselves lucky that for now, you only have to endure torture at the hands of South Koreans and Greeks becos na basket-ball score una for carry comot if una meet Deutchland. My German strikers are not like those blank-firing Argentinians. If we see chance, we score. Dat is how we do it in da schikelgrubbing hood..

"Deutchland Deutchland Uber Alles...."

Even our national anthem better pass your own - "Arise O compatriots..." De ting sound laik viagra advert...and we know de type of people who need viagra...:biggrin:

:D:D:D...thank u very much, my dear good bruder! i no go tell lie..me i dey enjoy dis land i simply love it...three much..

if g.o.a.tgerians cross our way we go crush dem...!

Uwaa Sef
Jun 14, 2010, 05:55 PM
...experienced players have gone beyond that, they only need a manager.(emphasis, mine)Na you, jare. Tell 'em.

Later

Uwaa Sef
Jun 14, 2010, 06:24 PM
If you do not get the point, then you do not know football and I certainly do not know where to start teaching you. If you do not understand what it means to keep the fire power of Argentina at bay for almost the entire game, where do you want me to start? Maybe here: go and take a look at the just concluded league and competition goal tallies from the following players: Messi, Tevez, Milito and Higuain.

Now for you and your man, my borda Mikky Jaja, Hope you saw this comment:



If you like call it colomentality again rather than face the truth. This is the second player on record to speak against their last coaching experience.N.A.R.,

Believe me, I'll address your post above when I vex finish.

Later

Dapxin
Jun 14, 2010, 06:25 PM
Yeah Right. Tell that to Robert Green:wink:

whaaaaaaaaaat ? He missed the shot. It was awful but it happens.

Again what matters is, It was 1 - 1. But of course, In enland, the world cup is mama Queens property.

So they might as well shoot everyone who doesnt rack up the numbers.

This is football.

omaks
Jun 14, 2010, 06:50 PM
Just because Ghana won with a late penalty, that silly billy AdebayoH is chatting rubbish on telly in the UK. If he and his poxy Togolaise were that good wouldn't they be in South Africa? Anyhow, Cameroun lost to Japan today by a lone goal. My eyes ached a lot from watching that match, and i dozed off, hoping against all hope that they would find a goal from somewhere. It didn't happen. Where is Eto'o not playing the role he is used to? Anyway, i can't wait for thursday to come round. Yer, things are still green white and green for yonder. I can't wait to see that stupid smirk wiped off AdebayoH's mouth.

Ajibs
Jun 14, 2010, 07:14 PM
Actually, that is the point!! Inexperienced players (i.e. U13, u17 etc) need some sort of coaching, but experienced players have gone beyond that, they only need a manager.

But it is agreed that majority of the present crop of players are not in the category of experienced players. They still need to be taught a thing as basic as the need to stick together.

Amodu really tried, winning Bronze with such crap of players.

MJ
I don tire for you walahi... sorry, this is getting difficult. you said:

But it is agreed that majority of the present crop of players are not in the category of experienced players.

Oh really?? First practically the whole team have been to at least 3 African Nations Cup Championships. Then let us take a look at some of the players that played in that particular game:

1. Vincent Enyeama: Won African Champions league with Enyimba, TWICE He has played for the national team since 2002. He ahs been to two World Cups

2. Joseph Yobo: Cuurent;y playing for Eventon, Premire League, he has played in the UEFA Cup and player for Nigeria since 2002, he has been to two World Cups

3. Taye Taiwo: Vice Captain for French top side Marseille, who won the French league. So he played in the champions league last and this year. He represented Nigeria at the 2005 World Championships where Nigeria won a silver medal I say again, under a real good Nigerian coach, Samson Siasia.

4. Sani Kaita: Signed to AS Monaco, but has been out on loan to several teams including top Russian side Locomotiv Moscow. He was in the 2005 Youth team and has played for the National team since then

5. The Yak: Plays for Eventon, he has played in the UEFA Cup for both Middles borough and Everton and has scored over 100 goals in his premiership career. in one season he scored over 20 goals and set an Everton record. He has played for the national team since 2001.

6. Chidi Odiah: Even though not a high profile player, he has played in the Youth team that won silver under Siasia. he has also player in the UEFA Cup and has won accolades with CSKA Moscow in 3 seasons.

7. Chindu Obasi: Plays professionally in Germany, and regular team player, This means he has played in games against some of the worlds best like Getafe of Brazil and Frank Ribery of Germany. He was also on the 2005 team that won the Silver. He won Silver at the last Olympics which we lost incidentally to Argentina.

8. Peter Odemwingie: Currently plays for Locomotiv Moscow, with whom he has played in the UEFA Champions league, while with Lille, he played in the UEFA Champions league also. He has played for the national team since 2004 and won silver at the last Olympics.

9. Obafemi Martins: Plays for tip German Side Wolfburg (Quiz for you who is the other Nigerian player that made a name at this same team???) has played in several UEFA Champions league competitions and has played for the national team since 2004

10. Dickson Etuhu: Plays for premier club Fulham, who just finished playing all the way to the final of the UEFA Cup. He has played for the national team since 2007, off and on.

11. Kalu Uche: Uche plays in the top flight in Spain, one of the world's best leagues where he has played and scored against teams like Real Madrid. he has played off and on for the national team since 2003.

So that is 11 players of the 14 that played the game. Remember you mentioned "experience" The bulk of the Nigerian team have experience my friend playing at the top level for both club and country.

So when you say they do not have experience, what do you mean? They do not have the experience to see that their team coach / manager is clueless on what to do and how to give instructions?

Now you are trying to separate "coaching" from "managing". Amodu was in charge of the team period. If they were not coached right, it was his problem, if they were not managed right, also his problem.

So please find another argument...since I know you will...NEXT!!!!

A quick view on Japan / Cameroon
Cameroon paid the price for being unpredictable and for building the team around Eto'o. Eto'o never got into the game hence they were firing on half tank throughout the game.

They have always been a very physical side, but Japan dealt with them by being a very fast team and playing a fast game. I guess the coach felt his side was aging this is why he left out players like Geremi who are good wingers and has a shot from distance that could trouble a keeper with the unpredictability of the Jabulani. They need to find a way to play without Eto'o so they do not look like they are just on the pitch to mark time. I need to watch the game again as I did not watch the whole game to make further comments.

Kenn
Jun 14, 2010, 08:18 PM
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NAR,

You are wasting your time ‘discussing' with people who do not understand football as sport, but only as politics. They are not interested in what Etuhu is saying, because he's not Pele or Maradona. They want to have a team filled to the brim with stars they dream about when reality has already dictated that we can only use those we've got and get a coach/manager that knows something to at least make them play to the best of their ability. More than two players have actually railed against Amodu's coaching experience. At least we know that Odemwingie and Yakubu have done so directly and Martins, Utaka and the vastly experienced Kanu have done so impliedly. Etuhu is certainly not saying anything new, but the Lagerback haters will conveniently ignore that and rather dwell on how bad Etuhu is as a player....
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Dapxin
Jun 14, 2010, 09:07 PM
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This thing is a matter of principle!

LaggingBehind haters ? Pllssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss!

Who born Etuhu not to rally around laggingBehind in a major tourney ? He wan quickly go home ?

Its quite simple really. You do not sack one for supposed Idi0cy at the game, and hire another idi0t. And then pay him x40 or so of the asking fee of the previous.

So far, LaggingBehind has been an epic FAIL. we lost the game But there are at least 2 more to go...

Its really that simple.

Dapxin
Jun 14, 2010, 09:17 PM
^Omaks,

Whoever put up Emma Adebayor for TV in the BBC inside must be a very very lyrically astute jester.

Adebayor is too much un-intelligent for TV, but then whats the purpose of punditry sef ? useless foreplay if you ask me :p

Uwaa Sef
Jun 14, 2010, 10:17 PM
"You could feel it. You cannot deny it. Like our people say, oyibo na oyibo." - Osaze Odewingie (emphasis, mine)In the rest of the interview, Odewingie talked about how Amodu was not doing somethings Lagerback is doing in training. However, is it possible that he (Odewingie) and co. may not have been listening attentively to, or respecting Amodu enough to carry out his instructions because he (Amodu) is not oyibo?

Source: http://kickoffnigeria.com/2010/news/15619/osaze-odemwingie-amodu-eagles-predictable.php

Later

Kenn
Jun 14, 2010, 11:58 PM
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Uwaa Sef,

Odemwingie’s assessment of both managers is detailed enough for anyone to see that he studied them very well. It’s actually a very intelligent interview. As he said pertaining to coaching and management, it is the difference between good and better. Indeed, true followers of football had seen through Amodu long before he was relieved of his post. And, frankly, if we accept your conjecture, that Odemwingie and co may not have been listening to Amodu or be carrying out his instructions (for whatever reason), it follows that Amodu should not have stayed there a day longer because that means he had lost the dressing room long before. A coach or manager must first have the full confidence of his players to function. In club football, once a coach or manager loses the dressing room, he’s out the door, irrespective of the reason. That is because you don’t send a general to lead men who would not listen to him or respect him to war, irrespective of the reason.

Then, coming to your equally conjectured reason, I say it is a false read. If you read Odemwingie’s comment about “oyibo na oyibo” in its full context, you can see that it is the usual everyday comment ordinary Nigerians make about the supposed efficiency and organization of the white man. It is not a comment about the man’s skin colour (after all Berti Vogts na Oyibo), it is about how he has brought his professional competence, vast experience and knowledge and the right personality to the job. I mean, even ordinary video, Amodu could not show the players! C’mon!


http://kickoffnigeria.com/2010/news/16074/media-happy-with-nigerias-performance.php

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Uwaa Sef
Jun 15, 2010, 06:16 AM
...I stopped one of the best players in the world - Enyeama
Very true. Lagerback and the rest of the team did not.


Super Eagles' striker, Obafemi Martins, was full of praises for Enyeama and attributed the 1-0 scoreline to the keeper's efforts. "....Vincent is an awesome goalkeeper. We could have been in trouble if it was not for him," Martins stressed. The comments above were made by the doers. They were made by those in the trenches. For those who don't quite get it yet, the 1-0 scoreline noted above means that if not for Enyeama, the thing for reach eleven - one for each player to take home.

http://odili.net/news/source/2010/jun/14/507.html

Later

Mikky jaga
Jun 15, 2010, 09:45 AM
How for do? Goalkeeper wan move to Europe pray well well, him luck come shine Messi no fit score against am after disorganizing the entire defense. People say na Lagerbehind do am.

We talk say for 89 minutes Lagerbehind no fit think of strategy to equalize one goal, dem say for 89 minutes Argentina no fit score anoda goal like say 1:0 no be win.

Na wah O. This Lagerbehind dey make people think backwards o.

Mikky jaga
Jun 15, 2010, 10:51 AM
MJ

So that is 11 players of the 14 that played the game. Remember you mentioned "experience" The bulk of the Nigerian team have experience my friend playing at the top level for both club and country.

So when you say they do not have experience, what do you mean? They do not have the experience to see that their team coach / manager is clueless on what to do and how to give instructions?

Now you are trying to separate "coaching" from "managing". Amodu was in charge of the team period. If they were not coached right, it was his problem, if they were not managed right, also his problem.



When I am managing a project, I make sure I recruit experienced hands to do the job. All I do is check their performance against set goals. If they expect me to now teach them the day-to-day techniques of getting the job done, then they are no good. The more experienced they are the less I am expected to interfere in the execution of their jobs.

But if any of them now says his performance was poor because the Manager was bad, I tell him to go fuc' himself.

Mikky jaga
Jun 15, 2010, 11:00 AM
ITALY 1 PARAGUAY 1

World champions Italy had to fight back from a goal down to earn a point against Paraguay as they began the defence of their crown with an unconvincing draw.

Marcello Lippi's side looked like they would be on the wrong end of the first major shock of the 2010 World Cup when they fell behind to Antolin Alcaraz's first-half header but an error from the South American side's goalkeeper Justo Villar gifted Daniele de Rossi an equaliser.

The ageing Azzurri, who featured five of their 2006 winning team in their starting line-up, looked short of ideas going forward and also have a concern over the fitness of legendary goalkeeper Gianluigi Buffon, who was forced off at half-time with an apparent back injury.

Italy did avoid their first defeat in their opening game of a World Cup since losing to the Republic of Ireland in New York in 1994 but this was not a performance to reassure their army of travelling fans that they are in any sort of shape to defend their title.

In the absence of the injured Andrea Pirlo, who is expected to return later in the group stage, it fell on Simone Pepe to try to open up the Paraguayan defence, but it was only in the closing stages of the game that he and his side managed any sustained spells of pressure.

Lippi's men dominated possession but their opponents' disciplined and regimented approach, in some ways reminiscent of many cautious Azzurri sides in the past, held firm.

Italy's best opening of the first half hour actually came on the break when Riccardo Montolivo dispossessed Salvatore Bocchetti on the half-way line but, after running to the edge of the area, his low shot barely tested Villar.

At the other end, Paraguay were growing in confidence and they had already wasted a couple of decent shooting chances when they stunned the world champions by taking the lead after 39 minutes.

Aureliano Torres curled in a wicked free-kick and Alcaraz leapt to beat Fabio Cannavaro and De Rossi and power home his header into the corner of the net.

Things got even worse for Italy at half-time when goalkeeper Buffon, another survivor of 2006 and still the anchor of their side, had to be replaced by Federico Marchetti.

Paraguay continued to look comfortable after the break and Enrique Vera came close to adding a second when he drove a fierce shot over the bar when the ball broke to him in the area.

But Italy were gifted an equaliser by the sort of goalkeeping howler that we have become used to in the opening days of this World Cup.

Villar flapped horribly at Pepe's corner and missed his attempted punch, allowing the onrushing De Rossi to force the ball the home from close range.

Italy looked a lot sharper after equalising and ended the stronger side but they were still finding things frustrating in the final third and had to settle for shots from distance.

Pepe fired wide after cutting in from the right and Montolivo had a low effort turned round the post before the end but the Paraguayans held on for the draw that their performance merited.

Mikky jaga
Jun 15, 2010, 11:04 AM
Great Teams always find solutions to early leads, but bad teams lager behind for close to 90 minutes without a clue on how to equalize.

Good Teams: USA, Italy, Uruguay etc
Bad teams: Nigeria, Cameroun etc.

omaks
Jun 15, 2010, 12:04 PM
Great Teams always find solutions to early leads, but bad teams lager behind for close to 90 minutes without a clue on how to equalize.

Good Teams: USA, Italy, Uruguay etc
Bad teams: Nigeria, Cameroun etc.

Mikky you just continue to increase your incorrigibility all the time. How is it that you find nothing good in the Super Eagles all the time. They had a good outing on Saturday, though they did not get the desirable result. We hope for a better outcome on thursdasy, and the majority of Nigerians will be solidly behind them. I understand your grouse with the choice of Lagerback ad the coach taking the Super Eagles to South africa, but you have to agree that technically and tactically he has been better than Amodu. that was evident in their showing last saturday. C'mon mate, you've gotta move on from all the Amodu injustice brouhaha.

Mikky jaga
Jun 15, 2010, 01:17 PM
Mikky you just continue to increase your incorrigibility all the time. How is it that you find nothing good in the Super Eagles all the time. They had a good outing on Saturday, though they did not get the desirable result. We hope for a better outcome on thursdasy, and the majority of Nigerians will be solidly behind them. I understand your grouse with the choice of Lagerback ad the coach taking the Super Eagles to South africa, but you have to agree that technically and tactically he has been better than Amodu. that was evident in their showing last saturday. C'mon mate, you've gotta move on from all the Amodu injustice brouhaha.

My friend, let him show he is better by getting good results. That was all Amodu did to get me on his side. If Lagerback wants me to support him, let him show he can win important matches.

But, can he? If he could, he would not be leading Nigeria to the WC. He would be leading Sweden. I do not support failures.

Ishola Taiwo
Jun 15, 2010, 03:52 PM
I am watching Cote D'Ivoire Vs Portugal on ITV and at the beginning of the match, one of the commentators wondered why all African teams at this World Cup have European coaches.

His companion later mentioned how no team with a foreign coach has ever won the World Cup...is this true? :eek:

Are they using style to say that none of us want to win the Cup? Do they not know that we are makers of history? Have they never been to one of our prayer battles and seen how we can make the sun rise in the west by the power of our words alone?

I am preparing myself to send the station an e-mail. Can someone here please give me an idea of what words to use to enlighten dis gadem ignorant oyinbo men...:D

Mikky jaga
Jun 15, 2010, 05:41 PM
Ivory Coast secured a draw with Portugal, rated 3 in the world. Their coach was the one dumped by NFF. He had less time than Lagerbeer to work on the team that did not get near the medal zone in Angola.

Ajibs
Jun 15, 2010, 06:01 PM
On a side note to all real Football fans and followers,

I just read that Inter Milan have appointed Benitez as coach...WTF!!! Is this really a good move? The fact is after the special one, who won the treble last season, I mean who exactly would step in and do better? And Inter have won the Scudetto I believe back to back for almost 3 years now, so with teh elusive champions league in their hands now, I think they do not mind a season or two of "normal" results. I should note that we should not forget that Benitez did win the Champions league with Liverpool and this was probably the main reason why he got the job.

On another note, one wonders if Jose Mourinho will be a success at Real Madrid. If he does do well in that club, I have no doubt in my mind that he will become the most expensive coach to hire and if wins good at Real Madrid, (League title and Champions League) he will not stay there for too long.

Auspicious
Jun 15, 2010, 06:01 PM
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Hi, Mikky!

The world will be shocked:

We'd beat Greece 7-0 on Thursday.

So says the Oracle! :p
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Kenn
Jun 15, 2010, 06:10 PM
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Omaks,

Don't waste your time. Leave the bilious ones to stew in their own bitter juice. The nation has moved on....

You see, a few hours ago, someone from the Champion newspapers called me to say he had been an unrelenting Lagerback critic from day one and that he had been sharpening his claws to tuck into the Super Eagles before the World Cup began. He said after the match, though he was disappointed we lost, he just didn't have the conscience to continue his anti-Lagerback tirade. He saw the light. Though he isn't in the sports section of the paper, he drew my attention to the fact that the paper has published my article and that it's been the major subject of discourse around their office. Simply put, he said over 95 percent of his colleagues share my view 100%. I thanked him, even though I know I didn't send any newspaper the article. In the same vein, I have had countless telephone and face-to-face conversations with Nigerians and I'm happy to note that I'm yet to talk with anyone who has Mikky Jaga, Dapxin or Eja's views. Not that they aren't there, but all indications are that they are far too small in number to be noticed. So, Omaks Baba, leave Mikky Jaga to enjoy his bitterness! On Thursday, the 17th day of June in the year of our Lord 2010, the Super Eagles, our Eagles, shall SOAR!


http://allafrica.com/stories/201006150342.html


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Mikky jaga
Jun 15, 2010, 06:30 PM
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Hi, Mikky!

The world will be shocked:

We'd beat Greece 7-0 on Thursday.

So says the Oracle! :p
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Sorry, that oracle must have taken some dose of Lagerbeer. If the Eagles do not lose to Greece, they should thank their stars for a draw.

All the Eagles need now is two draws and they will be home and dry.

Mikky jaga
Jun 15, 2010, 06:38 PM
Ahem, Kenn, what did you say?

Reminds me of the homosexual that went round town to seek people's views on homosexuality. You better believe it, all he interviewed found nothing wrong with homosexuality. He then concluded that only insignificant number of people were against homosexuality.

The other guy soaked Gari before going to bed, he then dreamed he was swimming in a very big ocean. When he related the dream, one wise person told him, he should not worry, he was already swimming before going to bed.

Kenn
Jun 15, 2010, 07:40 PM
Ahem, Kenn, what did you say?

Reminds me of the homosexual that went round town to seek people's views on homosexuality. You better believe it, all he interviewed found nothing wrong with homosexuality. He then concluded that only insignificant number of people were against homosexuality.

The other guy soaked Gari before going to bed, he then dreamed he was swimming in a very big ocean. When he related the dream, one wise person told him, he should not worry, he was already swimming before going to bed.

Yeah, you are not only swimming my friend; you are already drowning....

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Dapxin
Jun 15, 2010, 09:13 PM
On another note, one wonders if Jose Mourinho will be a success at Real Madrid. If he does do well in that club, I have no doubt in my mind that he will become the most expensive coach to hire and if wins good at Real Madrid, (League title and Champions League) he will not stay there for too long.

Jose Mourinho has only one team to beat in Spain to succeed; Barcelona.

The biggest problem at Madrid right now most probably is overlowing abundance of ego; And talent.

And all of those, no one of them ego-men trumps that of Jose Mourinho himself. I dont have his time Jose Mourinho, but I dont see what would stop him in Madrid. Nothing. Its always a 2 horse race.

The champions League is a different bottlebox entirely...

Lalakokofefe
Jun 16, 2010, 12:26 AM
Put your mouse over a date, team, …etc and see what happens.


http://www.marca.com/deporte/futbol/mundial/sudafrica-2010/calendario-english.html

Ajibs
Jun 16, 2010, 06:16 AM
One statement that tells the whole story...


"He doesn't look like someone who doubts his own quality and I think he can bring a result that Nigerians expect. I see him relaxed, as someone with a plan, who took this job after watching our games and knowing that he can do better than where we were.

Auspicious
Jun 16, 2010, 06:47 AM
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Oh-Oh..:confused::eek:
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Argentina's goal should have been disallowed, says FIFA
The Nation (http://thenationonlineng.net/web2/articles/50019/1/Argentinas-goal-should-have-been-disallowed-says-FIFA/Page1.html) | Wednesday, June 16, 2010.

Three days after the Nigeria-Argentina match, a shocking revelation came yesterday about the tough encounter.

FIFA said the goal that made gallant losers of the Super Eagles should have been disallowed by referee Wolfgang Stark.

Ole reports that a FIFA post-match analysis ruled that there was a foul in the build-up to Gabriel Heinze's stunning header, and that Stark should never have allowed the goal.

The FIFA referees' committee released their findings yesterday, as a guide for future judgments in this year's tournament. And amongst other rulings, they made it clear to referees that they must watch for infractions at corners and free-kicks -specifically attacking players blocking markers, as happened on Saturday.

As Juan Sebastian Veron's cross floated over Walter, Samuel enveloped Chinedu Obasi and stopped him from moving, thereby giving Heinze all the space he needed to propel the ball home. Stark should have, therefore, penalised Samuel for obstruction and awarded a free-kick to the Super Eagles - a judgment that could have changed the course of the whole game for Argentina.

Although the ruling comes too late for Nigeria, it has interesting implications for the rest of the tournament; a sign that FIFA will not tolerate the pushing, shoving and holding commonplace on both sides at dead-ball situations, and that in future, such offences will be punished with either disallowed goals or penalties in the case of the defence committing an infraction.
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Dapxin
Jun 16, 2010, 07:18 AM
^

LaggerBehind has given FIFA something ooooooooo. E gba mi :D

Mikky jaga
Jun 16, 2010, 08:35 AM
It is becoming a recurring decimal.

Maradona took a cocktail of drugs to eliminate Nigeria the other time, now his boys scored a goal that should have been disallowed - hard luck it is that both infringements were discovered after the damage had been done.

Well, that is what you get when you have people that could not make any right decision running your football. One bad decision always begets another

Mikky jaga
Jun 16, 2010, 08:45 AM
http://www.marca.com/deporte/futbol/mundial/sudafrica-2010/calendario-english.html

Oyibo dey make life easier. I appreciate this. But the problem comes when some people try to make us believe every/any oyibo is better, even a failed one like in the instance under discussion..

omaks
Jun 16, 2010, 11:40 AM
Super Eagles Robbed By Dubious Goal (Click Here) (http://www.tribune.com.ng/index.php/sports/6916-fifa-slams-stark-for-accepting-dubious-goal)

Now i'm not going to hide behind this revelation to justify the unjustifiable. The fact is our Super Eagles displayed a valiant effort during that match, played as well as they possibly could and do not have to be ashamed about the end result. They are going to do even better in the next two matches and qualify for the last 16. Now, my friend Mikky, might be able to show some sympathy for our Lagerback - led Super heroes (erm Eagles). Then again, i may just be wasting my ketstrokes here. LOL

Mikky jaga
Jun 16, 2010, 12:08 PM
Super Eagles Robbed By Dubious Goal (Click Here) (http://www.tribune.com.ng/index.php/sports/6916-fifa-slams-stark-for-accepting-dubious-goal)

Now i'm not going to hide behind this revelation to justify the unjustifiable. The fact is our Super Eagles displayed a valiant effort during that match, played as well as they possibly could and do not have to be ashamed about the end result. They are going to do even better in the next two matches and qualify for the last 16. Now, my friend Mikky, might be able to show some sympathy for our Lagerback - led Super heroes (erm Eagles). Then again, i may just be wasting my ketstrokes here. LOL

Nah!! It only showed Enyeama kept a clean slate. Nothing to do with any Lagerbehind.

NoLongThing
Jun 16, 2010, 02:00 PM
Dubious goal or not, we were well beaten by the Argentines especially in the first half (the second half was more even) when our boys allowed their nerves to get the better of them.

But come o, is anyone watching the Chilean vs Honduras match? Dem Chilean guys have to be best team I have seen so far - very compact, neat and very attacking minded but incredibly wasteful in front of the goal.

Mikky jaga
Jun 16, 2010, 03:55 PM
Those expecting Nigeria to beat Greece 7:0 had better go back to sleep in order to dream better dreams. Even Brazil could not put such margin pass North Korea.

Lalakokofefe
Jun 16, 2010, 03:58 PM
Blackberry App for South Africa 2010 World Cup ...

http://appworld.blackberry.com/webstore/content/10624

Auspicious
Jun 16, 2010, 04:01 PM
Those expecting Nigeria to beat Greece 7:0 had better go back to sleep in order to dream better dreams. Even Brazil could not put such margin pass North Korea.

Oracle Update, Wednesday, June 16, 2010:

12:0, not 7:0. So said the Oracle. :p
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Uwaa Sef
Jun 16, 2010, 04:38 PM
..

Oh-Oh..:confused::eek:
--

Argentina's goal should have been disallowed, says FIFA
The Nation (http://thenationonlineng.net/web2/articles/50019/1/Argentinas-goal-should-have-been-disallowed-says-FIFA/Page1.html) | Wednesday, June 16, 2010.

Three days after the Nigeria-Argentina match, a shocking revelation came yesterday about the tough encounter.

FIFA said the goal that made gallant losers of the Super Eagles should have been disallowed by referee Wolfgang Stark.

Ole reports that a FIFA post-match analysis ruled that there was a foul in the build-up to Gabriel Heinze's stunning header, and that Stark should never have allowed the goal.

The FIFA referees' committee released their findings yesterday, as a guide for future judgments in this year's tournament. And amongst other rulings, they made it clear to referees that they must watch for infractions at corners and free-kicks -specifically attacking players blocking markers, as happened on Saturday.

As Juan Sebastian Veron's cross floated over Walter, Samuel enveloped Chinedu Obasi and stopped him from moving, thereby giving Heinze all the space he needed to propel the ball home. Stark should have, therefore, penalised Samuel for obstruction and awarded a free-kick to the Super Eagles - a judgment that could have changed the course of the whole game for Argentina.

Although the ruling comes too late for Nigeria, it has interesting implications for the rest of the tournament; a sign that FIFA will not tolerate the pushing, shoving and holding commonplace on both sides at dead-ball situations, and that in future, such offences will be punished with either disallowed goals or penalties in the case of the defence committing an infraction.
--Utter hogwash!! FIFA talks from both sides of their mouth. FIFA is full of contradictions and inconsistencies. I'll return to this and other posts later. Lack of time dey kill me at the moment.

Later

Mikky jaga
Jun 16, 2010, 04:57 PM
Spain Lost to Swiss. What a Loss!!

Dapxin
Jun 16, 2010, 05:57 PM
Spain got ass-kicked. Football can be justiceless :p

Auspicious
Jun 16, 2010, 07:02 PM
+

As we were saying before we got MikkyJagad,

The Players Love Their Coach! :D :p :D

And that's all that matters.
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Lagerback has brought freshness into Eagles, Aiyegbeni
By Tony Ubani, in South Africa
VANGUARD (http://www.vanguardngr.com/2010/06/16/lagerback-has-brought-freshness-into-eagles-aiyegbeni/)| Wednesday, June 16, 2010.

http://www.vanguardngr.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/lagaback.222.jpg (http://www.vanguardngr.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/lagaback.222.jpg)
*Lagerback

Nigeria striker Yakubu Aiyegbeni has credited coach Lars Lagerback for bringing a freshness to the team during their FIFA World Cup campaign.

The Super Eagles suffered a losing start against Argentina but face Greece next with spirits in the camp still high and Everton striker Aiyegbeni has attributed much of that to their veteran Swedish coach.

"The new manager has come in and brought his own style," he said. "It's been so good and we are enjoying it. We struggled in the first game, but we are getting better with every game, and I believe we will improve even more.

"We need to focus on our next game. Every game is important and we want to win and get to the next round. It is not going to be easy, but we have to get there for the fans."
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Kenn
Jun 16, 2010, 08:28 PM
.

Walter Samuel is notorious for that tactics and I remember fleetingly thinking at the time that if it was in the Premiership or Bundesliga, that goal would not have been given. I'm happy FIFA is waking up to it now and letting referees know that it's not on. But, it's not an issue with Nigeria and need not divert our attention from the battle at hand. Football decisions are like tides – sometimes they go in your favour and sometimes they go against you. If the former, put it down to luck; if the latter, pick yourselves up and move on. For us, Argentina and the-goal-that-never-was is gone. It's Greece we have in front of us and all we need to concentrate on. We gonna battle with all we've got to the three points!

SOAR EAGLES!

SOAR SUPER!

SOOOOAAAAARRRRR!!!!


...

Auspicious
Jun 16, 2010, 08:33 PM
..Football decisions are like tides – sometimes they go in your favour and sometimes they go against you. If the former, put it down to luck; if the latter, pick yourselves up and move on..

Gba O!

After all, it is managed by humans who aren't by any means perfect.

We're not gonna cry over spilt Akamu; we're moving on to the next battle! :clap:
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Auspicious
Jun 16, 2010, 09:22 PM
+

Ah, I just remembered a dream I had overnight.

That Super Eagles returned in full-force to assert themselves.

With Nwankwo Kanu sporting a Mohawk instead of his usual hairstyles. :lol:
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NoLongThing
Jun 16, 2010, 09:44 PM
South Africa 0 - Uruguay 2. Bad bad result for the Bafana Bafana, but damn man what a match end to end entertaining stuff. As for Spain, na only demselve dem get to blame - just kept moving the ball about without penetration and throwing on a half-fit Torres was never going to wash. The Spanish have yet to shed their reputation as under-performers on the big stage (Euro 2008 is proving to have been an aberration)

As per our boys, I am convinced that based on the spirited performance against those doggy Argies, the world cup is not going to see our back anytime too soon. This team based on what I saw against the Argies and based on their ever improving performances since Laggerback took over will be the first naija team to get to the quarter-finals. The boys will deliver that is for sure. Let the Greeks park a bus in front of their goal - they are sure going to need it.

Up Nigeria, Up Super Eagles!!!!!!!!!!

Ajibs
Jun 16, 2010, 09:45 PM
Poor South Africa!!! 3-odo, plus red card for goal keeper to make things worse! Ah yakata!!!

As for Spain Vs. Switzerland, all I can say is, as we say, Football is not mathematics!

This World Cup is one where the big guns are falling short. Brazil (ranked 1st) could only put 2 goals and let one in past North Korea (ranked 105th)

I just saw this on FIFA.com


I never dreamt I would be there, playing in one." To be playing in one alongside Nwankwo Kanu, hero of the 1996 Olympic gold-winning side that Yakubu watched with stars in his eyes, and doing so on African soil, brings the big man to the verge of tears. "Being here, and with a legend like Kanu as a team-mate, I can remember what it felt like to be a boy and dream."

That is the kind of respect you will like to see in your team, and for those who wonder why Kanu was included in the squad, this could provide and answer, he has the respect of his teammates. His achievements at that 1996 Olympics (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football_at_the_1996_Summer_Olympics) where we beat both Brazil and Argentina to win the goal medal is I think Nigeria's greatest international football feat to date. We beat an Argentina side that had the likes of Hernan Crespo and Javier Zanetti and Deigo Simione. Then we beat a Brazilian side that had Ronaldo, Robeto Carlos and Bebeto and with one wonder goal by Kanu. Enjoy

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Lalakokofefe
Jun 16, 2010, 09:50 PM
South Africa 0 - Uruguay 2. Bad bad result for the Bafana Bafana....[/B]

Dont you mean South Africa 0 - Uruguay 3

NoLongThing
Jun 16, 2010, 09:55 PM
Dont you mean South Africa 0 - Uruguay 3

I beg na exictement dey kill me - point taken. I forgot the last minute header/belle/leg goal from the right cross. I guess they all count. But what a game.

Uwaa Sef
Jun 16, 2010, 10:25 PM
...Football is not mathematics!...except when oyibo Lager dey coach.

Later

Lalakokofefe
Jun 16, 2010, 10:56 PM
I think somebody said something earlier about football and mathematics.....:D


Spain had lost just once in 49 matches. It had won the European Championships in brilliant style, finally ending a 44-year wait for international success, and had qualified for the World Cup with 10 wins out of 10 -- a feat never before achieved. No wonder everyone had them down as favorite this time. Real favorite.

Which is more than could be said for Switzerland. If Spain were 4/1 to win the World Cup according to the bookies, Switzerland were 175/1. The Swiss had qualified, sure, but the teams that failed to get through their qualifying group were Luxembourg, Israel, Latvia and Moldova. Hardly giants of the European game. At home against Luxembourg they had even managed to lose 2-1. And as Senderos admitted, half the players can't even communicate with each other -- the country is divided between German, French and Italian speakers.

This defeat was faintly absurd. Well over 60 percent of the possession, 23 shot attempts and the goal happens like that? What, some are asking, is the point of pretty passing if a prosaic punt does the trick?

It's tempting to write it off as an accident --which, of course, it was. But in a way it wasn't either --

For Spain it was a kick in the teeth. It should still get through the group, but finishing second -- which looks likely now, after the impressive performance of Chile -- would in all probability see it play Brazil straight away. Spain can beat Brazil and it might well have had to beat them anyway if the Spanish were to reach their objective of winning the tournament. But no one expected to have to do it just yet.

Then there's the potential twin consequences of the defeat: has Spain lost its veneer of invincibility? And has everyone else learned how to beat them? Fundamentally, Spain was unlucky but it was also confronted by problems it couldn't overcome either here or at last summer's Confederations Cup. Does Spain now have to learn a different way round defensive sides who come and park the bus? Del Bosque has spent the last year trying to persuade everyone that Spain isn't favorite despite what they might think. Today, for the first time, they might even agree with him.



Source (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/soccer/world-cup-2010/writers/sid_lowe/06/16/spain.loss/index.html?xid=cnnbin&hpt=Sbin)

omaks
Jun 16, 2010, 11:34 PM
Those expecting Nigeria to beat Greece 7:0 had better go back to sleep in order to dream better dreams. Even Brazil could not put such margin pass North Korea.

I agree with you Mikky (just this once. LOL) that the margin by which the Super Eagles will triumph may not be as much as 7 goals, but mark my words, they will win that match against Greece. It doesn't matter much to me if they win by half a goal, one - quarter goal or 30goals. The one thing that is paramount to me is that they win (even if it is by the hand of Maradona). After the win, we can once again start the endless 'jaw - jawing' about how they won.

Auspicious
Jun 16, 2010, 11:42 PM
+

I feel so sorry for the South Africans.

It was a baaaad day - on their Youth Day for that matter.

It's reminiscent of last night basketball between the Celtics and the Lakers.

When the expectation was at the highest, down they came crashing - hard.

But let me not cry louder than the bereaved; I got the Super Eagles to route for yet.
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Dapxin
Jun 16, 2010, 11:53 PM
Celtics v Lakers ? There is game 7 to go abi ?

+

The south Africans shoulda come to the streets and hintherland of Nigeria to recruit players. They woulda fared better with all that evident organisationational skills so far on display.

Those ones they featured are simply ***not*** good enough. They made Diego Forlan look good!

Auspicious
Jun 16, 2010, 11:58 PM
Celtics v Lakers ? There is game 7 to go abi ?

Yup.

It's going to be a nail-biter on Thursday, 9pm Eastern.
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Dapxin
Jun 17, 2010, 12:23 AM
^ So Its been a full year since the massacre of lakers the last time ? O ga o

Auspicious
Jun 17, 2010, 12:43 AM
^ So Its been a full year since the massacre of lakers the last time ? O ga o

2 years actually, I think.
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NoLongThing
Jun 17, 2010, 01:23 AM
And as Senderos admitted, half the players can't even communicate with each other -- the country is divided between German, French and Italian speakers.

As an aside, this is why I have always recommended a confederacy as being the only true system of government by which Nigeria can survive as a "single entity" as practiced in Switzerland, whilst we share the same colour - we are not the same people!

Apologies - anyway back to football, I don consult my aguanyankarikaturekokomosi of egrogegekomoratitibaraba and I predict the SE will win by at least a two goal margin later on today. Thus sayeth the Oracle of Akoko???;)

Mikky jaga
Jun 17, 2010, 08:44 AM
Super Eagles could have won today, but that ain't gonna happen. The guy leading them to battle had an uncanny record of losing or drawing important matches he should have won. He needed 2 wins at home to qualify for the World Cup he lost both matches without scoring even a goal.

If it had been Amodu in charge, I would have been more confident. Amodu had a "must win" match against Kenya to qualify for the World Cup. Even though he was trailing by 2:1 at half time, he went back to the drawing board and won 3:2. That is what good managers do. Not one that could not equalize a goal scored in the 9th minute of a game.

Mikky jaga
Jun 17, 2010, 10:04 AM
Poor South Africa!!! 3-odo, plus red card for goal keeper to make things worse! Ah yakata!!!

As for Spain Vs. Switzerland, all I can say is, as we say, Football is not mathematics!

This World Cup is one where the big guns are falling short. Brazil (ranked 1st) could only put 2 goals and let one in past North Korea (ranked 105th)

I just saw this on FIFA.com



That is the kind of respect you will like to see in your team, and for those who wonder why Kanu was included in the squad, this could provide and answer, he has the respect of his teammates. His achievements at that 1996 Olympics (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football_at_the_1996_Summer_Olympics) where we beat both Brazil and Argentina to win the goal medal is I think Nigeria's greatest international football feat to date. We beat an Argentina side that had the likes of Hernan Crespo and Javier Zanetti and Deigo Simione. Then we beat a Brazilian side that had Ronaldo, Robeto Carlos and Bebeto and with one wonder goal by Kanu. Enjoy

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Can you compare what these guys played against Argentina with what Lagerbeer's boys played.

The difference, like 7up, is clear.

Auspicious
Jun 17, 2010, 11:03 AM
Can you compare what these guys played against Argentina with what Lagerbeer's boys played.

Yes.

All I have to do is critically examine both plays. :D
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Auspicious
Jun 17, 2010, 11:22 AM
+

I wonder what it'll be like..

For Nigeria..to lose 2-0 to Greece..:confused:
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Mikky jaga
Jun 17, 2010, 11:57 AM
This World Cup is getting interesting!!

The HOST has LOST

SPAIN was given some PAIN

MESSI showed us some MERCY

I wish the Eagles more GREECE to their elbows in their search for their first World Cup win on African Soil

Mikky jaga
Jun 17, 2010, 12:02 PM
+

I wonder what it'll be like..

For Nigeria..to lose 2-0 to Greece..:confused:
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That will call for double celebrations!!

1. The exit of the pretender.

2 The silence of self haters who felt nothing good can come out of Naija, but only from Oyibo.

Auspicious
Jun 17, 2010, 12:14 PM
+

I ain't saying nothing, Oga Mikky.

For now, We Hope. We Pray. We Believe. :pray:
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Auspicious
Jun 17, 2010, 01:33 PM
Yes.

All I have to do is critically examine both plays. :D
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In other words, anybody can compare.

It's very easy to compare. :p
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Mikky jaga
Jun 17, 2010, 02:39 PM
In other words, anybody can compare.

It's very easy to compare. :p
--

I heard you the first time.

Mikky jaga
Jun 17, 2010, 02:42 PM
Meanwhile, ARG wallops KOR 4 goals to 1. Hope NGA does not get some beatings like that from Grease.

Mikky jaga
Jun 17, 2010, 02:51 PM
It is now we know the favour Enyeama did us against the Argies.

Mikky jaga
Jun 17, 2010, 02:52 PM
See ya all during the half time

First-lady
Jun 17, 2010, 03:19 PM
It's a goaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaal

Ajibs
Jun 17, 2010, 03:20 PM
Goaaaaaaaallllllll Naija!!!!!!!

First-lady
Jun 17, 2010, 03:20 PM
Up up Naija!
down down Greece

Equipper
Jun 17, 2010, 03:21 PM
The super Eagles have taken off with their first goal. This is GOOD!!!

Uwaa Sef
Jun 17, 2010, 03:33 PM
It is now we know the favour Enyeama did us against the Argies.Thank you.

Later

First-lady
Jun 17, 2010, 03:33 PM
Torasidis
karagunis
salpingidis
kiriakos
ewa agoyins :D
appendicitis:D


na wa for Greeks

First-lady
Jun 17, 2010, 03:35 PM
Chineke God
they gave Kaita a red card?

First-lady
Jun 17, 2010, 03:36 PM
This is too harsh
This is insane

Uwaa Sef
Jun 17, 2010, 03:37 PM
Yap. Inexperience, abi na stupidity.

Later

First-lady
Jun 17, 2010, 03:37 PM
Racism!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Racism!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Racism!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I dislike that referee
may his wife give him a set of Octoplets,all boys in her next pregnancy plus the 3 he already has let's see if he'll use referee salary to feed them
I'm very mad!

Ajibs
Jun 17, 2010, 03:39 PM
Haba ref!!
Oh no but we can still hang in there! hang in there boys!

First-lady
Jun 17, 2010, 03:42 PM
Nna mehn that our goalee is a handsome young men
God bless him.

Uwaa Sef
Jun 17, 2010, 03:42 PM
This is too harsh
This is insaneNo, it ain't. Not that I'm happy about it. It was plain stupid of him. It was too blatant not to deserve a red card. That center referee would have been sent packing if he hadn't red-carded him.

Later

First-lady
Jun 17, 2010, 03:44 PM
Now they want to kill one of our players with socrates kicks.
e no go better for these Greeks and that purchased referee

First-lady
Jun 17, 2010, 03:45 PM
Look at them rejoicing over that stupid goal
nonsense
after taking out our man una dey rejoice
Rubbish!
Thank God my oga go work,the man for faint
Salpingidis ko
Crapinrubbish ni

Uwaa Sef
Jun 17, 2010, 03:47 PM
I knew it was a matter of time. Now, tori don baje-o.

Later

First-lady
Jun 17, 2010, 03:49 PM
I knew it was a matter of time. Now, tori don baje-o.

Later

You are making this worse
Have you no Faith?
You no dey go Church?

First-lady
Jun 17, 2010, 03:50 PM
Abeg make una begin pray
This is a desperate situation
People like Eja and Ewuro,make una bring out una oracles at this half time begin chant
We have to win this game

Uwaa Sef
Jun 17, 2010, 03:53 PM
Make una see-o. Wetin Celtics vs Lakers dey do here now?

Later

Obugi
Jun 17, 2010, 03:55 PM
All,

That Kaita guy was so stupid. Which one is kicking another player like that?

Nigeria has some kind of curse in the World Cup I swear. The guys are playing good, co-operative soccer for the first time in World Cup, no single me shine alone thing, now this.

Hope still dey sha. I noticed the Nigerian team started panicking after they lost Kaita, maybe they can cool down during half-time and get a grip. All is not lost, hope dey.

!Get Yours!
Obugi.

First-lady
Jun 17, 2010, 03:59 PM
I need to leave the house abeg
I no fit watch the rest of the game,If I see them score us again I may collapse .
This is too much

:cry2::cry2::cry2::cry2:

Ajibs
Jun 17, 2010, 04:19 PM
Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeepahhhhhhh!!!!!!

It's seems even the Greeks Are confused on what to do on th pitch now

Dapxin
Jun 17, 2010, 04:21 PM
SHAME!
SHAMEE
SHAMEEE!

all I can muster; for this continental disgrace of a team. They cant even score against an open patch.

And have you all started blaming laggerbehind ? Afterall Amodu didnt know what he was doing.

Over@BBC radio. FAILURE! FAILURE!! FAILURE of a team, this is. :(

Showcase
Jun 17, 2010, 04:30 PM
Gentlemen and ladies , if any. How did Nigeria get to the world cup again, please? My kindergarten team at St Paul's primary School will defeat this ragtag Eagles. I beg, make I go find something better do with my time jare.

2-1 against us now. Shame.

Ajibs
Jun 17, 2010, 04:32 PM
Ahhhhh not good. Vincent well done jare! Nah dat foolish Kaita cause am

Miliki Way
Jun 17, 2010, 04:52 PM
It is finished.

Karma is indeed a bitch.

Nigeria, at last, has finally reaped the reward for the unfair treatment bestowed upon Amodu. How can you win with such injustice looming over your heads, ehn Nigerians?!

And yes, many thanks to my main man, Mikky Jagga for standing his grounds and showing us repeatedly how foolish we are as a nation by treating one of our own so unjustly.

At last, Lagerbeer can now go home after making easy money off foolish africans.

Shiiooor

Uwaa Sef
Jun 17, 2010, 04:56 PM
E don end? I quit watching the damn thing after half-time.

Later

Dapxin
Jun 17, 2010, 04:56 PM
the most predicted humiliation of #nigeria finally unfolds.

Shameful! disgraceful and full of torture. #Enyeama for president! tho. He did himself proud. lets hope one so called professor of north london can see the light.

Dapxin
Jun 17, 2010, 04:58 PM
E don end? I quit watching the damn thing after half-time.

Later

me I was watching doing sheybi I told you so to everyone of them around me.

That doesnt take away the pain tho, but it kinda makes it fun.

Now lets begin to predict LaggingReverse's excuses.

Mikky jaga
Jun 17, 2010, 04:58 PM
I even overrated the Eagles. I thought they would get at least two lousy points. But they may be going home empty handed. What a shame!!

Uwaa Sef
Jun 17, 2010, 05:01 PM
Sorry, I guess it's over for us. Does that mean we can now try Siasia, since Amodu commited the crime of qualifying us?

Later

Lalakokofefe
Jun 17, 2010, 05:05 PM
Group B P W D L F A GD Pts

Argentina 2 2 0 0 5 1 4 6

Korea Re 2 1 0 1 3 4 -1 3

Greece 2 1 0 1 2 3 -1 3

Nigeria 2 0 0 2 1 3 -2 0

Showcase
Jun 17, 2010, 05:05 PM
Show of shame over. Let them play the last ceremonial match and come home. Thank God we still have Ghana and Ivory coast in contention. Sorry, Lagerback. Going by football tradition in Nigeria, you'll be the first to go. Adios.

picato
Jun 17, 2010, 05:06 PM
Now I have eaten my words. MJ was right all along. Yeye guinea fowl.

Uwaa Sef
Jun 17, 2010, 05:06 PM
That doesnt take away the pain tho...You dey tell me. Na pain make me decide not to watch anymore.

Later

Lalakokofefe
Jun 17, 2010, 05:07 PM
Bottom of a group that includes Greece and South Korea?

Miliki Way
Jun 17, 2010, 05:08 PM
That being said, it is still mathematically possible for Nigeria to qualify if Greece loses by a large margin to Argentina and we beat South Korea. But first, Nigerians nationwide must pray for forgiveness for the unjust treated bestowed upon one of ours (i.e. Amodu).

Uwaa Sef
Jun 17, 2010, 05:13 PM
Going by football tradition in Nigeria...Which kain tradition? Anyway, that is topic for another day.

Later

Uwaa Sef
Jun 17, 2010, 05:17 PM
Bottom of a group that includes Greece and South Korea?Ye' sir. You're not dreaming.

Later

Kenn
Jun 17, 2010, 05:37 PM
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People,


It’s the silly season. All the pseudo-patriots can now fan out and celebrate the Eagles being out of the World Cup. I support the Eagles and their coach, Lars Lagerback and I’ll continue to support them till the end of this competition. I’m not going to blame the red card for our loss. I’m not going to look and say despite the loss we are a better team than the team that played at the African Nations Cup. I do not think Amodu would have performed better. I still believe it was right that he was replaced, but obviously I still feel it was done too late. I will not blame Lagerback. I will not blame the boys. I will simply say the law of football should take its course. After this competition, the rebuilding must start. The Glass House needs a serious shake-up for a start. I believe Lagerback has done his best, but he must now fall on his sword. I will not be supporting an extension of his contract even though I can see he’s a better coach than Amodu. He must go. And since we have at least two years to prepare for the next major competition, we should bring in a Nigerian coach to see what he can do. Two candidates come to my mind right now – Siasia and Eguavoen. I believe both have the necessary experience to build and lead a team that can do something better in the future.


Dapxin
Jun 17, 2010, 05:49 PM
I got it cleared off now. :(
http://my.opera.com/dapxin/blog/2010/06/17/football-nigeria-1-greece-2-game-over-abuja-lagerbeer-can-now-go-home

Now lets see what the Germans do - seem to be breakout -must-watch- team so far.

Has LaggingBehind been fired ?

Uwaa Sef
Jun 17, 2010, 05:51 PM
The silence of self haters who felt nothing good can come out of Naija, but only from Oyibo.The same Oyibo wey Naija beat on their own soil 2-1 at Wembley Stadium in 1949, playing with bandages as football boots, against an English side that sported football boots. No, don't start thinking I'm that old. My dad had the copy of the Daily Times(?) that carried the news, and was quick to retrieve it for us to see each time we tended to blab off about oyibo football supremacy.

What a shame!

Later

Dapxin
Jun 17, 2010, 05:53 PM
All the pseudo-patriots can now fan out and celebrate the Eagles being out of the World Cup.

Again, wrong startout! celeberate ? This is inexcusable boss.

Fact of the matter is , all these people - and I suspect I am part of them - that you label pseudo patriots have been in pain for years, months now - disaster waiting to happen.

Or, sleep walking into disaster....And now that Kabooooooooooooomb! Is Kabooooooooombed, you then add insult to injury by thinking this way ?

Wow! speechless.

Alexa
Jun 17, 2010, 05:54 PM
Torasidis
karagunis
salpingidis
kiriakos
ewa agoyins :D
appendicitis:D


na wa for Greeks


Lmao@ewa agoyins :D
appendicitis:D
! I bin think say na only my eyes see that kain thing. Why do their names sound like diseases in a medical dictionary?:eek:

Alexa
Jun 17, 2010, 05:56 PM
I may not know much about football but I honestly thought we would easily win Greece. I guess it's my innate Naija overconfidence. What a disappointment!!:rant:



Enyeama, na you dey reign! Carry go!:hail:

Mikky jaga
Jun 17, 2010, 05:58 PM
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People,


And since we have at least two years to prepare for the next major competition, we should bring in a Nigerian coach to see what he can do. Two candidates come to my mind right now – Siasia and Eguavoen. I believe both have the necessary experience to build and lead a team that can do something better in the future.



Yes another Nigerian to qualify us before another Lagerbehind comes to take over!! Una try well, well. Una no see Sia or Eguavoen before going for the Lager something? His antecedents points to failure and he has failed woefully.

People like you should not contribute to our football again. You do more damage than any evil that has befallen that country since independence. If Lagerbeer must go, so must you - his apologist. Just embrace some decency and KEEP SHUT.

Alexa
Jun 17, 2010, 06:02 PM
I agree with you Mikky (just this once. LOL) that the margin by which the Super Eagles will triumph may not be as much as 7 goals, but mark my words, they will win that match against Greece. It doesn't matter much to me if they win by half a goal, one - quarter goal or 30goals. The one thing that is paramount to me is that they win (even if it is by the hand of Maradona). After the win, we can once again start the endless 'jaw - jawing' about how they won.


Erm, Omaks my bros, do you want to retract that statement? You sounded so sure of our win...:biggrin:

DeepThought
Jun 17, 2010, 06:27 PM
All the pseudo-patriots can now fan out and celebrate the Eagles being out of the World Cup.

This fellow will never shut up. He will deliberately keep looking for trouble, fanning the flames of wahala.

He must rub salt on old wounds.

We are minding our buisness, quietly enduring the harm people like him are inflicting, but he will not stop.

Not satisfied that the people are quietly enduring the damage he and his fellows are causing and are jejelly minding their own buisness, he again deliberately "chook pin" to start up trouble.

And then when we begin to respond, he will start to complain.
But this is not the place to respond in the light of his own s_ht stirring post.

Kenn
Jun 17, 2010, 06:34 PM
Yes another Nigerian to qualify us before another Lagerbehind comes to take over!! Una try well, well. Una no see Sia or Eguavoen before going for the Lager something? His antecedents points to failure and he has failed woefully.

People like you should not contribute to our football again. You do more damage than any evil that has befallen that country since independence. If Lagerbeer must go, so must you - his apologist. Just embrace some decency and KEEP SHUT.



Mikky Jaga,

And why should I shut up and what has a lack of decency got to do with me not shutting up? Is this the first time Nigeria would be knocked out at this stage of a World Cup coached by a local or foreign coach? Or I should shut up because your glaringly inept Amodu did not take us to the World Cup to try and perform even worse than we have now? You think yourself some kind of prophet because the Eagles lost? No! You are as uninformed about football as anyone who supports Amodu taking us to the World Cup. And, in case you haven't been following, while most Nigerians are disappointed we lost, not many are saying your Amodu would have done better. Indeed, there are people who believe that Lagerback should take the team forward, despite the loss, because he seems to have brought something we have lacked under Amodu to the team. Obviously, these people are not blaming him for the loss (and I'm yet to see anyone blame him for the loss apart from you and your brainless brigade). So, if anyone should shut up, it's you who continually believe that the World Cup proper is Amodu's league.

Of course, the easiest thing is to be negative about Nigeria knowing we do not have the team capable of competing properly from day one. But the noble thing and the most patriotic thing to do would be to support your national team at all times. Some of us can beat our chest that we are true Eagles supporter through thick and thin. You cannot, because you are a fair-weather supporter who said he was not going to support the Eagles or watch their matches during this World Cup, because your Amodu was relieved of his post.

My friend, celebrate the Eagles loss to your heart's content, it still doesn't mean you understand football. I did not support Lagerback as the ideal choice. I supported him as the choice to be made from the shortlist NFF presented. And today, tomorrow or forever, I will still choose him ahead of Amodu. So, again, celebrate; but don't do so because you've been proved right (you haven't because Amodu is yet to go to a World Cup and win a game). What has been proved here so far that some Nigerians like you do not know when to leave their politics behind and support their national team, whether or not they are good enough to compete. And that is the sad thing in this whole debate.


Kenn
Jun 17, 2010, 06:39 PM
This fellow will never shut up. He will deliberately keep looking for trouble, fanning the flames of wahala.

He must rub salt on old wounds.

We are minding our buisness, quietly enduring the harm people like him are inflicting, but he will not stop.

Not satisfied that the people are quietly enduring the damage he and his fellows are causing and are jejelly minding their own buisness, he again deliberately "chook pin" to start up trouble.

And then when we begin to respond, he will start to complain.
This is not the place to respond in the light of your own s_ht stirring post


Okay, Your Royal Silliness, I recognise your nuisance. Thank you.

Now go on! Go and celebrate! Ọdẹ!

...

omaks
Jun 17, 2010, 06:59 PM
Erm, Omaks my bros, do you want to retract that statement? You sounded so sure of our win...:biggrin:

Alexa baby, how things? Retract ke? Na lie o. Yes i was sure, and for the first 20 minutes of the first half it looked that it was going to happen for us. Anyways it didn't and we move on. All is not lost, albeit with the slimmest of chances.

SCENARIO: Argentina fields a relatively weaker side against Greece, but still manages a basketball scoreline. We play South Korea, and once again Kanu becomes the hero. We trounce South Korea three goals to nothing. Nigeria's Super Eagles do the unthinkable and qualifies for the last sixteen.

That my dear Alexa is the stuff dreams are made of. LOL (There i go shooting my mouth off again. LOL)

denker
Jun 17, 2010, 07:07 PM
..as long as me concern the only black race wey fit win world cup na Great Ala-Igbo Nation...as long as we no get Igbo-Nation make una all go eat Garri and relax and keep on dreaming..lol!

Miliki Way
Jun 17, 2010, 07:22 PM
Kenn, I join MJ in demanding you sharrap there! So you sabi say Siasia and Eguavoen dey there since na im you no challenge NFA for putting their colonial mentality on pedestals by shortlisting a failure from Sweden. Yes, you berra sharrap kwik kwik before I vex fly come that London come squeeze krazy glue for ya mouth. Ehn hen!

Kenn
Jun 17, 2010, 07:24 PM
All the pseudo-patriots can now fan out and celebrate the Eagles being out of the World Cup.

Again, wrong startout! celeberate ? This is inexcusable boss.

Fact of the matter is , all these people - and I suspect I am part of them - that you label pseudo patriots have been in pain for years, months now - disaster waiting to happen.

Or, sleep walking into disaster....And now that Kabooooooooooooomb! Is Kabooooooooombed, you then add insult to injury by thinking this way ?

Wow! speechless.

Thinking what way, Dapxin? Okay, you've been waiting for eons for whatever, but did you at any time before Lagerback came in think you had the team to do anything at the World Cup? Be honest with yourself, were you expecting Amodu and the team that went to the Nations Cup to come to the World Cup and do magic? Of course, you and your brood found reasons to complain because a "white man" took over from a Nigerian and have since gone to town praying for a World Cup failure so you can 'justify' yourselves! Okay, it's happened, celebrate with your people! But note this - Amodu, your totem, would not have done better. And one more thing, even in defeat, we EVIDENTLY have a better team now than Amodu ever cobbled together....


...

DeepThought
Jun 17, 2010, 07:26 PM
Okay, Your Royal Silliness, I recognise your nuisance. Thank you.

Now go on! Go and celebrate! Ọdẹ!

...

I do not gloat. Its not part of my nature.

I sometimes make fun of people but unlike you, who is only out to show off how much you know and to abuse people who don't share your colomentality, I'm not here to ruin this thread for innocent people who just want to discuss football.

Discuss football all you want, but when you try to sneak in your colomental abusing under the guise of sport, it is our duty to put a stop to it.

Ajibs
Jun 17, 2010, 07:28 PM
All,

That Kaita guy was so stupid. Which one is kicking another player like that?

Nigeria has some kind of curse in the World Cup I swear. The guys are playing good, co-operative soccer for the first time in World Cup, no single me shine alone thing, now this.

Hope still dey sha. I noticed the Nigerian team started panicking after they lost Kaita, maybe they can cool down during half-time and get a grip. All is not lost, hope dey.

!Get Yours!
Obugi.

Well its all over. Mikky Jaja and Uwa Sef are happy, oya pack up and go home. Oh you must still face South Korea. Well recoup and win and go out with a bang.

Nigeria has some serious football player problems.

While it might be easy to blame the coach, Lagerback, the firing of Amodu and even the NFF for Nigeria's woes, a true football fan who follows Nigerian football will see that the problem is actually with the players we are currently producing in the country. And the state of football in Nigeria, its also entirely possible that our current situation is not unconnected to the other woes the country faces. The fact is we do not have a problem producing "good" players. we do seem to have a problem producing "great" players.

For a true picture to understand the decline that has taken place within the Nigerian ranks, one needs to take a look at the African Football Player (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_Footballer_of_the_Year)of the year. The last time a Nigerian made the list of 3 nominees was in 2004, six years ago! and the last time a Nigerian actually won the title was over a decade ago by Kanu in 1999! Now prior to this from 1993 to the year 2000 save for one year, there was a Nigerian player in the top three finalists, and several who won the title: Kanu, Yekini, Amunike, Ikepba and others who made the list.

Why does this matter? Well beyond coaching this speaks to the development of the game in Nigeria and also the personal desire and hunger to succeed by our players. Are Nigerian players still motivated to become the best the can ever be or are they content once the get that mouth watering contract and can "settle" down. Please consider three other African players: Samuel Eto'o, Didier Drogba and Emmanuel Adebayor.

Samuel Eto'o has been a consistent competitor, for over 5 years running, gunning for better achievements in the game. Just consider the fact that here is a man who agreed to a move from Barcelona, to Inter Milan a lateral move that has him in the history books of a very select few that have been able to win the champions league with two different teams.

Dider Drogba: A consistent top force to reckon with on the pictch. In many Chelsea games, you will find Drogba the one heading out the corner kick at his own goal and minutes later his is tackling a defender on his way to the opposing team goal. You know he is a passionate player and note his passion to succeed. In the last game in the Premier League which just ended, knowing he was on the same goal tally as Wayne Rooney, tied for the golden boot, he desperately wanted to add to his goal tally, and we saw a bit of a clash when Frank Lampard refused to allow him take a penalty. As we know, he went on to score two goals and win the title.

Finally Adebayor, I put him here for one simple reason, I recall when he went to Arsenal, in an interview he said something I will never forget, he wanted to be just like Kanu hence his move to the same team where Kanu had his glory days. So he noted the great achievement of a fellow player coincidentally Nigerian and had the desire to also succed accordingly. And his move to Man City can be viewed as a desire to win some silverware as it looks like Arsenal were / is going nowhere fast. (I mean bringing Sol Campbell back??? :confused1)

With the 3 names I have noted above there are also three coincidences: First, all three players are playing for one of the top 5 teams in the various leagues they play in professionally. Second, all three are the captains of their national teams. And third, when they moved from team to team, they moved for one top team to another. Eto'o Barcelona to Inter Milan, Drogba, Marseille to Chelsea, and Adebayor, Arsenal to Man City. These were lateral moves or climbing positive career developing moves.

Now contrast that with the "top" Nigerian talents we currently have. Who are they where are they? Our top striker, Yakubu, has never played for a top team in his whole career except in the Israeli League. Obafemi Martins, had a woeful time at Newcastle and was with them when they were relegated and is trying to find his feet and form at Wolfsburg (oh yes I gace a quiz on who was the other notable Nigerian to play for them? Jonathan Akpoborie!!!) after he did have some glory days in Inter Milan, but was a move from Inter to Newcastle and lateral move? No! It was certainly not. Obinna Nsofor out on loan just finished a season with a team almost at the bottom of the league, he has not played but a hand full of games for Inter Milan that bought him. Chinedu Obasi plays for a mid league team in Germany, Odemwingwe as much as I like him, only manged to move from above average team Lille to Locomotiv Moscow, not the best of top leagues. Our team captain, Joseph Yobo, has also spent the bulk of his career for mid league Everton. Though one of Nigeria's usual consistent performers he is waning so fast I wonder if he will last another season at Everton or any top club. (And I gather that David Moyes is in South Africa to watch his boys).

There was a time when Nigerian players made a big difference. There was a time when Nigerian players were hungry for success. We all have watched over and over again Yekini's first goal at USA 94. There was a time when Bolton would have broke the bank to keep Jay Jay Okocha as his performance alone determined how well the team performed. But even Jay Jay, never played for top teams for long spells. The only top player we have now is Mikel Obi and even he is not at the top of his game. so amoungst 11 players we only have one significant player, who by the way did not feature in the World Cup. Now contrast his with the Ivorian team for example: Drogba and Kalou, Chelsea, Kolo Toure, Man City, Yaya Toure, Barcelona, Ebuoe, Arsenal and Zakora, Sevilla. That is half of the squad that plays first team football for a top club in a top league.

A top team consists of not just a top coach, but also top players plying their trade for top teams. But what worries me most is where are the replacements for the aging stars? Who is the next Kanu? Okocha? Yekini? Which Nigerian player can we all get excited about in the European Leagues? At the last FIFA Under 17 which Nigeria hosted and won silver who are the stand out players? Where are they now? Where is Sani Emmanuel? Nigeria won the World Under 17 in 2007, where is Macauley Chrisantus that won the Golden Shoe? 17 plus 4 is 21, a great age to break into the national team. Who is guiding these boys to make sure then end up in good teams to develop them into world class players? Nigeria needs to go back and study its talent base and get the next set of players up and running.

The Super Eagles team needs to be completely rebuilt from the bottom up. From the current squad of players we have on hand, only a handful should make a future Nigerian team. Mikel Obi and Vincent Enyeama are my only true candidates. Enyeama only because goalkeepers can perform at the highest level even into their 40's. And for this task of rebuilding, we do not necessarily need Lagerback, we certainly do not need Amodu, again, I vote for Siasia to be allowed to build and manage the team for a minimum of 4 years. Or simply keep Lagerback and allow him rebuild the team, if we can afford him...? But I pray you no more Amodu please! please!! please!!!

In ending, I noted that I expected Nigeria to go to South Africa to simply mark "present" Unfortunately this is what has eventually happened. To the Mikky Jaja's and Uwa Sef's keep on dreaming that Amodu could have done better, guess what I am done with that argument as that is water under the bridge, and I am still extremely happy that he is no longer the Super Eagles coach.

I also did say, that I hoped one or two players stood out leading to opportunities for better clubs, I do hope that two time man of the match Vincent Enyeama can move to a really good team after his stunning performances. As for the other players, none of them stood out. Rather than fuss and hiss and cry about what has been, I prefer to look at what can be! I intend to personally attend Brazil 2014 and I hope to be watching a new look sharp, committed and talented world beating Super Eagles.

Kenn
Jun 17, 2010, 07:48 PM
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Chief Miliki,


Kenn, I join MJ in demanding you sharrap there! So you sabi say Siasia and Eguavoen dey there since na im you no challenge NFA for putting their colonial mentality on pedestals by shortlisting a failure from Sweden. Yes, you berra sharrap kwik kwik before I vex fly come that London come squeeze krazy glue for ya mouth. Ehn hen!


You can tell me to shut up, but whether I will do so is another matter. I will even go one better by educating you on the issues, because you seem as confused as Mikky Jaga.

Yes, I am advocating NOW for Siasia or Equaevon, but I did not and have not said they would have done better in South Africa. What I am saying is that in two years time when we shall be playing another African Nations Cup, Siasia and Eguavoen would have been seasoned enough if any or both of them are put in charge of the Eagles now after the World Cup. The reason is simple. Eguavoen has been a coach in Europe and even our national team before and is presently almost completing his UEFA coaching badges, which will qualify him to coach at the any level. If he's put in charge of the team, he would have the name and stature to go round the best clubs in Europe and observe the training regimes there to see what to adapt at home. He will be as good as any coach in the world then. Siasia I'm told has also began doing his UEFA badges. If he faces it, he would finish before the end of the two years in question and be on equal qualifications footing with Equavoen. Though, he never coached in Europe, he played in Europe and did some stints as understudy of some coaches in Belgium and France. He has coached our Olympic team and taken them to a respectable Olympics Final. After the World Cup, that is the next major competition with FIFA involvement. What that did was expose him to top level competition. Now what the two years between now and the next Nations Cup will do for him is to make him a better and more informed coach than he is now. I'm also impressed that he's remained on the training and teaching side of football by setting up his own football training academy.

So, to recap, Eguavoen and Siasia were not qualified to take us to this World Cup by my reckoning. But by the time of the Nations Cup in two years and the next World Cup in four years, both of them would be in a position to lead a national team that will do us proud, not only because they would have been better fortified qualifications-wise; they would also have gained the relevant experience. Indeed, they would have all that time to make their mistakes and correct them and stabilize the team before leading them out for a major tournament.

Now, fly down to London and let me let loose my present frustration on you! By the time I finish pounding you, no flight will agree to carry you back, because you will so black and blue, they'll think you'll quench in the plane before reaching your destination. Oya, come, I dey wait! Nonesense!:lol:

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Miliki Way
Jun 17, 2010, 07:54 PM
.Now, fly down to London and let me let loose my present frustration on you! By the time I finish pounding you, no flight will agree to carry you back, because you will so black and blue, they'll think you'll quench in the plane before reaching your destination. Oya, come, I dey wait! Nonesense!:lol:

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Kenn, if you think say you dey frustrated with this world cup, then wait until you see my face. I don vex pata pata. In fact, make I go book my London ticket. I dey come.:D

Uwaa Sef
Jun 17, 2010, 07:55 PM
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Nigeria vs Argentina: A PerspectiveThe problem we had was of a far wider technical nature than naivety at the back. We didn't mark the Argentines very well and we didn't put pressure on them as much as we should. Our zonal markings didn't work and even though in the second half we got closer to them, it was obvious that we couldn't keep the ball or build play from midfield. Carlos Tevez and Lionel Messi had too much space to play with and it is a miracle that we weren't punished more for this. Actually, I would have preferred playing five in midfield (because of the absence of Mikel Obi) and one upfront, at least in the first half, rather than try to match the Argentines 4-3-3 formation or play a traditional 4-4-2. This is not exactly advocating that we park the team bus or the aeroplane in front of our goal. However, considering that our job was certainly not to outplay them, but to stop them from playing and where possible try to nick a goal or more on the break, a more cagey start would have been ideal. We should have worked harder and closely to prevent any early goal, because the longer the game goes without that goal, the more desperate the favourites would have become and the more chances that we would have been able to get something from the game.

Dickson Etuhu is one of our big players, but he needs to take more leadership role. He is solid, but not inventive and in the role he plays, he holds the key to much of how we build our play. I think he is too laid back for a defensive midfielder. At 19, Lukman Haruna is not quite the finished article, but I still believe he's the best young defensive midfield talent from Nigeria. He showed heart in this match, but he was outthought and outmuscled throughout the game. He's obviously one for the future. The Argentines had Mascherano and the veteran Juan Veron as midfield anchormen, two men whose greatest attribute is not pace. Thus, an extra man in midfield with a little bit of pace would have neutralised their guile and caused them real problems. But again, when I look in the squad, it's quite difficult seeing anyone with the necessary quality of a ball-fetcher, tempo-controller or natural midfield leader for the near-libero role. Therefore, to an extent, I can understand why the coaches opted for three upfront. I mean, I don't know the facts about fitness or preparation of the players, but it would be nice to have a much more robust midfield against the pacy South Koreans. As a corollary to this, I would say our boys were poor readers of the game against Argentina. Many a time, Yakubu and Odemwingie would cross from the by-line into a vulnerable Argentina box, but there would be no midfield runners to just touch the ball and guide it into the back of the net.

One thing we also didn't do was put enough pressure on the Argentines' right side manned by the inexperienced Jonas Gutierrez. True, the Newcastle man has some pace about him, but he was easily the poorest ‘defender' on the pitch, being essentially a winger playing as a makeshift right-back. Walter Samuel was in no great shape either. Perhaps if Obafemi Martins and Peter Odemwingie had started, we might have had better luck against that shaky Argentine defence. But we really can't say. The coach is the one who has been in camp with the boys and only he and his team know who is mentally and psychologically prepared to start on the occasion. However on the evidence of second half, Martins and Odemwingie are better starting the next game than Obinna and Ogbuke. Yeah, Ogbuke is a powerful player, but he lacks mobility and vision. Odemwingie holds the ball better and brings more people into play. Another thing the coaches need to work on vigorously is our general set-piece play. Though I believe the Argentina goal came via the individual error of Obinna who couldn't properly mark Heinze; it's still worth noting that it came by way of a set-piece. In terms of our own set-piece attack, I think we need some others to step up apart from Taiwo. No doubt, Taiwo has a fiercesome shot, but he's got no sense of delivery.
Kenn,

The bulk of what you put up there is unbelievably antithetic to your avowed stance on the Lagerback/Amodu issue. One would have thought that all the "could have's" and "should have's" in your perspective would be a walk in the park for the highly-revered and highly-paid Lagerback of a coach. In short, assuming your perspective was correct, shouldn't a highly-paid oyibo professional been able to figure that out? Just beats me.

Later

Dapxin
Jun 17, 2010, 07:57 PM
Thinking what way, Dapxin? Okay, you've been waiting for eons for whatever, but did you at any time before Lagerback came in think you had the team to do anything at the World Cup? Be honest with yourself, were you expecting Amodu and the team that went to the Nations Cup to come to the World Cup and do magic?

Of course, you and your brood found reasons to complain because a "white man" took over from a Nigerian and have since gone to town praying for a World Cup failure so you can 'justify' yourselves! Okay, it's happened, celebrate with your people! But note this - Amodu, your totem, would not have done better. And one more thing, even in defeat, we EVIDENTLY have a better team now than Amodu ever cobbled together....


...

Kenn, you are beginning to do me on this thread and issue and I am beginning to allow myself to get done.

I have been consistent. I hope I have.

Magic ? What magic ? There is none defined. We cant win the worldcup!

But we can at least lose from the world cup without losing more than games.

As Is, we have lost games.

We have lost money.

We have lost respect.

And we have lost another chance to stand by our own - in a world where that is evidently the first rule to self preservation.

Infact the rhetorical questions you posed to me here exposes your shocking ability to 'get it' all these while.

DT put it simply the other day and I para-quote: Failing this way, I mean this laggarback way, or 10x worse, 1 billion times less stupid with an Amodu - remember who qualified the team - than under a ridiculously overpaid, and overpampered, and over-ass-kissed idi0t of a 4-1-10 so-called coach from Sweden.

I quit this issue with you. This was a disaster waiting to happen and many people saw it, I saw it, and I was against it this way, then and now.

Nigerias NFA., much like their bedmates at Aso Rock is packed full of brainless blokes.

To see the un-ending ways with which folks like yourself who should know better famously rationalised their obvious insanities on and on and on and on, simply riles.

Kenn
Jun 17, 2010, 08:00 PM
I do not gloat. Its not part of my nature.

I sometimes make fun of people but unlike you, who is only out to show off how much you know and to abuse people who don't share your colomentality, I'm not here to ruin this thread for innocent people who just want to discuss football.

Discuss football all you want, but when you try to sneak in your colomental abusing under the guise of sport, it is our duty to put a stop to it.


DeepThought, the Shallow,

I don't know if you suffer from colomentality, because I really wouldn't care if you do; but I do know you suffer from inferiority complex. And if you ask me, that is worse than whatever anyone defines as colonial mentality. Omugọ!

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Ishola Taiwo
Jun 17, 2010, 08:00 PM
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Meeen dis Lageryansh don try no be small...:clap:

Nigeria World Cup 2010 (so far) : Played 2. Lost 2.

Thank Jah we had StarLager with us because had it been Amodu or Siasia, it would have been :
Nigeria World Cup 2010 (so far) : Played 2. Lost 5. (yeeparipa!!)

:lol:

Let us tank Zeus for blessing us wit de genius of Lagerlager. My fellow patriotic Nigerians, let us now fight to make dis man a GCON, SAN and Life President of Nigeria.

Yes indeed, 2011 is the year Lagerbelly and his Naija VP - Alhaji Dr. Ogogorobelly (JP) - will enter Aso Rock in triumph. Yes we can!!!

Tola Odejayi
Jun 17, 2010, 08:05 PM
I don't understand why everyone is saying that Nigeria is out of the World Cup. Even Kenn seems to have lost heart.

If Argentina wallops Greece (likely) and the Eagles beat South Korea by even just one goal, then they're through to the next round.

But on the evidence of the matches I've watched so far, I can't say that I care whether Nigeria progress...

Kenn
Jun 17, 2010, 08:20 PM
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DT put it simply the other day and I para-quote: Failing this way, I mean this laggarback way, or 10x worse, 1 billion times less stupid with an Amodu - remember who qualified the team - than under a ridiculously overpaid, and overpampered, and over-ass-kissed idi0t of a 4-1-10 so-called coach from Sweden.



Dapxin,

That's our problem - follow-follow mentality that takes you nowhere fast! You think football is politics? Haven't you seen that the nationality of coaches is irrelevant in the World Cup? I mean, why didn't you come up with this type of insipid wisdom when Westerhof won the Nations Cup and took us to a respectable outing in America? Or were you very despondent that a Dutch, a "white man" took us to gold in Tunisia and a good outing in America? Listen, it's not about less stupid this or that or colour or nationality. If Amodu was good enough, he would have been the one taking us to South Africa. He showed he wasn't good enough and was shown the way out. But it was done too late, because his godfathers were pussy-footing until the clamour by Nigerians made them do it. Today, tomorrow or in a zillion years, the World Cup is not in his league and he showed that with what he paraded at the Nations Cup. Lagerback may not have succeeded, but people who truly understand football sans politics know he's a better coach and manger than Amodu. Of course, he isn't the best coach that could have taken us to the World Cup; but he was the best from the shortlist the NFF presented the nation. It's not about his colour; it's about what those who employed him thought he could do. And no matter what you say, I do not think any reasonable person would rate Amodu higher than him as a coach.


Uwaa Sef
Jun 17, 2010, 08:23 PM
I don't understand why everyone is saying that Nigeria is out of the World Cup. ...If Argentina wallops Greece (likely) and the Eagles beat South Korea by even just one goal, then they're through to the next round.Now, we're back to Amodu. This has Amodu written all over it, if you ask me. No?

Later

Miliki Way
Jun 17, 2010, 08:32 PM
Abeg, anybody don see first-lady? I hope say she never pafuka for inside house after Greece netted the 2nd goal o. Ehn hen. :lol:

Ajibs
Jun 17, 2010, 08:39 PM
I don't understand why everyone is saying that Nigeria is out of the World Cup. Even Kenn seems to have lost heart.

If Argentina wallops Greece (likely) and the Eagles beat South Korea by even just one goal, then they're through to the next round.

But on the evidence of the matches I've watched so far, I can't say that I care whether Nigeria progress...

SLB
Did I miss calculate??? I am not sure you are right, BUT!!! Argentina has no need to wallop Greece. They already top the group, so a draw for them will be sufficient. or they may just decide to win by 1-0, Now lets see, currently goal difference for the teams are
Korea +3 -4 diff -1.
Nigeria +1, -3 diff -2
Greece +2, -3 diff, -1

So if the next set of scores are:
ARG 1 GRE 0,
NIG 1 DPR 0

New tally will be

Korea +3, -5 diff -2.
Nigeria +2, -3 diff -1
Greece +2, -4 diff, -2
Nigeria qualifies...:hail:

By George!!! Eureka!!!! You are damn right!!!! let us see other qualifying possibilities:
ARG 2 GRE 0,
NIG 2 DPR 1

New tally will be

Korea +4, -6 diff -2.
Nigeria +3, -4 diff -1
Greece +2, -5 diff, -3
Nigeria qualifies... :hail:

But...
ARG 1 GRE 1, (or 0-0)
NIG 1 DPR 1 (or 0-0)

New tally will be

Korea +4 -5 diff -1 (or +3 -4 diff -1).
Nigeria +2, -4 diff -2 (or +1 -3 diif -2)
Greece +3, -4 diff, -1 (or +2, -3 diff -1)
Nigeria Out :cry2::no:

Hmm....interesting!

DeepThought
Jun 17, 2010, 08:41 PM
I don't understand why everyone is saying that Nigeria is out of the World Cup. Even Kenn seems to have lost heart.

If Argentina wallops Greece (likely) and the Eagles beat South Korea by even just one goal, then they're through to the next round.

But on the evidence of the matches I've watched so far, I can't say that I care whether Nigeria progress...

Nigeria may or may not be out.
Anything is possible.Clearly they can still qualify, even if it looks slim and what you wrote up there is possible and has already been mentioned. So actually, clearly, people are still hoping against hope.


What I say is this :
It doesn't matter to some of us if Nigeria wins the world cup 1 million times, so long as it is done with a foreign coach..


There are those who don't see a foreign coach as a big deal. Fine. I don't really have much quarell with these category but I do have a problem with those who can't see a Nigerian (Read the trash Kenn just put up) as a coach.

Not seeing a foreign coach as a big deal is quite different from not accepting a Nigerian as coach because "the boys need a coach they can look up to" or because "we can't make it on our own" or ....because they haven't qualified with some European or whatever trash badge he is now proposing.

That type of colomental nonesense is what people like me won't put up with

Uwaa Sef
Jun 17, 2010, 08:41 PM
Karma is indeed a bitch.Nobe Karma. Na Kamalu. Him and Amadioha be cousins.

Later

Miliki Way
Jun 17, 2010, 08:52 PM
SLB
Did I miss calculate??? I am not sure you are right, BUT!!! Argentina has no need to wallop Greece. They already top the group, so a draw for them will be sufficient. or they may just decide to win by 1-0, Now lets see, currently goal difference for the teams are
Korea +3 -4 diff -1.
Nigeria +1, -3 diff -2
Greece +2, -3 diff, -1

So if the next set of scores are:
ARG 1 GRE 0,
NIG 1 DPR 0

New tally will be

Korea +3, -5 diff -2.
Nigeria +2, -3 diff -1
Greece +2, -4 diff, -2
Nigeria qualifies...:hail:

By George!!! Eureka!!!! You are damn right!!!! let us see other qualifying possibilities:
ARG 2 GRE 0,
NIG 2 DPR 1

New tally will be

Korea +4, -6 diff -2.
Nigeria +3, -4 diff -1
Greece +2, -5 diff, -3
Nigeria qualifies... :hail:

But...
ARG 1 GRE 1, (or 0-0)
NIG 1 DPR 1 (or 0-0)

New tally will be

Korea +4 -5 diff -1 (or +3 -4 diff -1).
Nigeria +2, -4 diff -2 (or +1 -3 diif -2)
Greece +3, -4 diff, -1 (or +2, -3 diff -1)
Nigeria Out :cry2::no:

Hmm....interesting!

Great statistical analysis, but use ya coconut for a minute, my friend. You can bet your last dollar that Diego Maradona is scribbling those same scenarios on a marker board just now. The fact is, strategically speaking, it is not in their best interest to defeat Greece because that could allow Nigeria to qualify which opens up a possibility (however slim) for them to meet Nigeria again somewhere down the line during the tournament, a situation I'll imagine they'll want to avoid at all cost. Bottom line, this is like a warfare and expect some Maradonic moves when Argentina meets Greece because he'll likely field the weakest of his men with strict instructions to let Greece win by a lone goal or at best give them a draw.

And I never even mentioned the South Korean coach o who would equally be preparing for a do or die match with Nigeria.

Anyhow, God dey. Nothing is impossible. But abeg, make una join me pray to God for forgiveness for all our trangressions and ill treatment of Amodu because the way we treat am no good at all. How person go cook finish una come drive am commot then bring another person to chop the food. Haba! :lol:

First-lady
Jun 17, 2010, 08:55 PM
Abeg, anybody don see first-lady? I hope say she never pafuka for inside house after Greece netted the 2nd goal o. Ehn hen. :lol:


Thanks for asking.
I was frying stew in the kitchen when the kids let out a shout and I realized that Hippocrates dem don do their worst.:D

Ajibs
Jun 17, 2010, 09:06 PM
Great statistical analysis, but use ya coconut for a minute, my friend. You can bet your last dollar that Diego Maradona is scribbling those same scenarios on a marker board just now. The fact is, strategically speaking, it is not in their best interest to defeat Greece because that could allow Nigeria to qualify which opens up a possibility (however slim) for them to meet Nigeria again somewhere down the line during the tournament, a situation I'll imagine they'll want to avoid at all cost. Bottom line, this is like a warfare and expect some Maradonic moves when Argentina meets Greece because he'll likely field the weakest of his men with strict instructions to let Greece win by a lone goal or at best give them a draw.

I can't agree with the reasons, but I can understand a draw with Greece as Maradona may indeed rest as many first team players as possible. But two things, first, Argentina is not n the business of loosing, so I do not even see that as an option. Second, the "second" team of Argentina is more or less as good as the first, with the likes of Milito on the bench and also the "second" team may want to put up a good performance to ensure they are selected for the next games coming up.

So while I might see them playing a draw, I cannot see a situation where they will loose. Finally, I do not think Argentina is at all worried about meeting Nigeria again. That is highly unlikely to happen and hence need not be considered.

Dapxin
Jun 17, 2010, 09:16 PM
I do not want to see that team again.

Enuff

And it doesnt matter what happens. Nigeria is out. Beaten! a long time ago. They will *not* beat the Koreans.

Dapxin
Jun 17, 2010, 09:29 PM
France was abject!
all over the place.
They all seem to want to be in the Ritz hotel instead.
Bizzarre!

Mexico shines with her team of young lads. Interesting.

Showcase
Jun 17, 2010, 09:53 PM
I don't understand why everyone is saying that Nigeria is out of the World Cup. Even Kenn seems to have lost heart.

If Argentina wallops Greece (likely) and the Eagles beat South Korea by even just one goal, then they're through to the next round.

But on the evidence of the matches I've watched so far, I can't say that I care whether Nigeria progress...

Argentina will surely beat Greece. Is it not Greece? This Greece? The question is, Can this Nigeria team win against South Korea? eeehehhhn, NO! Unless they do some background arrangement so SK will let us win. They can afford it.

Showcase
Jun 17, 2010, 09:56 PM
I see a possible finals between Germany and Brazil/Mexico. Definitely Germany in the finals. Those boys are something else. They are a delight to watch. Thank God Nigeria is not meeting them. We for need hire one contractor take carry our goals with forklift.

DeepThought
Jun 17, 2010, 10:03 PM
Argentina will surely beat Greece. Is it not Greece? This Greece? The question is, Can this Nigeria team win against South Korea?

Can Nigeria win against South Korea?
I don't know , but of course it is not impossible.

Those who are writing Nigeria off are mistaken. It is never over till it is over. Anything is still possible. But as for me, it doesn't really matter. My own stand is , I'm happy for Nigeria to crash out of the world cup in round one under an Ahmodu than to win the world cup under a laggerbeer.

Anyway sha, I still wish them good luck. Anything is still possible. Who knows...

Tola Odejayi
Jun 17, 2010, 10:06 PM
Nigeria may or may not be out.
Anything is possible.Clearly they can still qualify, even if it looks slim and what you wrote up there is possible and has already been mentioned. So actually, clearly, people are still hoping against hope.


What I say is this :
It doesn't matter to some of us if Nigeria wins the world cup 1 million times, so long as it is done with a foreign coach..


There are those who don't see a foreign coach as a big deal. Fine. I don't really have much quarell with these category but I do have a problem with those who can't see a Nigerian (Read the trash Kenn just put up) as a coach.
I don't read anywhere in Kenn's posts where he has said that any foreign coach is better than any Nigerian coach. I believe he has been very specific in saying that Lagerback is better than Amodu.

But please feel free to point out specifically where he has said this.

Kenn
Jun 17, 2010, 10:19 PM
What I say is this :
It doesn't matter to some of us if Nigeria wins the world cup 1 million times, so long as it is done with a foreign coach..


Who cares what you hypocrite thinks? Did you sing this tune when Westerhof was taking us to the gold in Tunisia and to world acclaim in the US? Did you mouth this rubbish when Bonfrere Jo was getting us the gold in the 1996 Olympics?






There are those who don't see a foreign coach as a big deal. Fine. I don't really have much quarell with these category but I do have a problem with those who can't see a Nigerian (Read the trash Kenn just put up) as a coach.

Not seeing a foreign coach as a big deal is quite different from not accepting a Nigerian as coach because "the boys need a coach they can look up to" or because "we can't make it on our own" or ....because they haven't qualified with some European or whatever trash badge he is now proposing.

That type of colomental nonesense is what people like me won't put up with

Why don't you for once save your honour or whatever is left of it by showing me and everyone here where I said or implied that I do not want a Nigerian coach. Start by linking up to the posts of mine from which you supposedly extracted the quotes above and let people see how much of a pathetic liar you are. Ewurẹ!

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Kenn
Jun 17, 2010, 10:28 PM
I don't understand why everyone is saying that Nigeria is out of the World Cup. Even Kenn seems to have lost heart.

If Argentina wallops Greece (likely) and the Eagles beat South Korea by even just one goal, then they're through to the next round.

But on the evidence of the matches I've watched so far, I can't say that I care whether Nigeria progress...



Shoko,

It's not that I have lost hope, because as far as there is still a mathematical chance for Nigeria to qualify, we live in hope. That is why I stated there I will support the team till the end.

Having said this, the chances for qualification are very, very slim. Argentina holds the aces in the group and I can't see them wanting to do Nigeria or South Korea any favours. First, thinking of themselves, I expect that Maradona would want to rest his big players for the next round having more or less qualified. Though I do not think he would deliberately want to go out to lose to Greece by a goal margin, it is not impossible with the kind of team he will put out. The Greeks have experience and a stable team and it might be asking too much to think that an Argentina team mostly made up of reserves will defeat them.

The most important thing for Maradona, apart from resting his big players for the next round, would be to give the reserves a run-out so as to know what changes he'd need to make in the future. While a lot of the big names on the Argentina bench may want to impress, Greece could prove too determined for them. Though the games on the 22nd would be played at the same time, results towards the close of play might give room for mischief. All I know is if it is within Argentina's power, they would prefer Greece to qualify along with them. Thus if the game between Nigeria and South Korea becomes a war of attrition, to the extent that, say, towards the 90th minute it's still a draw or Nigeria winning by whatever margin, Argentina can deliberately throw the game for Greece to win with one goal margin. That way, Greece qualifies with Argentina still top and whatever margin we win with, we would still be out.

Of all the teams, the one Argentina will not like going into the next round is Nigeria. Our rivalry is well known and two of their wins against us in a World Cup have been controversial and we defeated them at that famous Olympics in 1996 – a defeat that rocked their national football. More importantly, Argentina will not want any African ‘home' team to qualify for the next round because you never know – they could meet and if they do, that team will be a sentimental favourite. And it is possible that Nigeria would be growing stronger within the tournament only to pose trouble then. It is therefore safer for Argentina to do all within their power to stop us and if it means letting Greece trough, they will. Yeah, it still depends on what South Korea does, but Argentina would not mind doing Greece a favour and leaving South Korea to decide their own fate.

I still have hope Shoko, but that hope is hanging on a super-thin thread.:lol:


Vade Mecum
Jun 17, 2010, 10:43 PM
Indeed there is a God in Israel, I mean Nigeria :hail:

Cry not, oh ye Kaita, you were merely an instrument in the hands of a fair and justice dispensing God.

Be comforted oh ye good Nigerians.

Have no sympathy for Lagerback and the NFF

Lagarback willfully allowed greed and ambition to lead him to disaster

What was the Swede thinking ?

He tried to reap where Amodu Shuaibu labored

The NFF should have learnt their lesson after 2002

Now the God of Amodu Shuaibu has done it again

First Amodu's God humiliated the NFA and usurper Onigbinde

Now the NFF and Lagarback have received their fair portion of instant justice :hail:

Of a truth, Amodu's God is a God of instant justice

"Do not be deceived: God cannot be mocked. A man reaps what he sows." Galatians 6:7 :hail:

The NFF sowed wind, when they robbed Shuaibu Amodu of the gains of his labor and hired Lagaback to usurp Amodu's well deserved honor :hail:

Now the NFF and Lagarback have reaped the whirlwind :hail:

Abeg, oh ye God of Amodu Shuaibu.

Ye God of instant justice, please make haste and visit Nigeria's poli-thieve-cians

DeepThought
Jun 17, 2010, 10:48 PM
Who cares what you hypocrite thinks? Did you sing this tune when Westerhof was taking us to the gold in Tunisia and to world acclaim in the US? Did you mouth this rubbish when Bonfrere Jo was getting us the gold in the 1996 Olympics?

Na crase dey worry you if after 10 years of flogging you on NVS and other boards, you want to say you don't know my long standing preference for competent Nigerians/Africans in everything including soccer.

Na crase dey worry you if you are asking me where you said "we can't make it on our own". That is the trash you quoted to me on Gamji.com. You think I've forgotten? Me I no dey forget that kind thing O!

Na crase dey worry you if you're asking me to show you where you made excuses for Summers



I don't read anywhere in Kenn's posts where he has said that any foreign coach is better than any Nigerian coach. I believe he has been very specific in saying that Lagerback is better than Amodu.

But please feel free to point out specifically where he has said this.

If this was a question posed by Kenn, I would not answer him because I know he is not sincere. But when someone else asks, I will oblige (even though I'm taken aback that you can ask such a question???- Or are you just making mischief ni?? :eek:).

Kenn is very, very specific.
He has said NO nigerian coach is qualified.
He has said this again and again and in his lattest writeup he repeats that again.. I don't even have to look far, he has just said it again. Look at the end of this post as I painfully have to repeat what he has just written.

But pls note that he is now backing up a little by allowing that in 2 years a Nigerian or two (out of 150 million Nigerians ) may be qualifed... and yes of course only and only because they have played in his beloved Europe (and not dirty stinking Africa) and also they must obtain some trashy European coaching certification(No dirty Nigerian or African certification will do...NOOOOOoooo!).

This is the kind of foolish mentality that pushes talented Nigerians out of and away from Nigeria. This is the kind of mentality that imports common farmers from Zimbabwe. This is the kind of mentality that ...Oo... don't get me going.......

Below is the kind of trash this fellow with his I love queen Elisabeth haircut complete with parting is fond of putting out


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For those who can stomach trash. This is really embarassing



What I am saying is that in two years time when we shall be playing another African Nations Cup, Siasia and Eguavoen would have been seasoned enough :eek:if any or both of them are put in charge of the Eagles now after the World Cup. The reason is simple. Eguavoen has been a coach in Europe (crase man, so if he had not been a coach in Europe nko?) and even our national team before and is presently almost completing his UEFA coaching badges (Yes O! the magic beloved UEFA badge without which no African is qualified), which will qualify him to coach at the any level. If he’s put in charge of the team, he would have the name and stature to go round the best clubs in Europe and observe the training regimes there to see what to adapt at home. He will be as good as any coach in the world then

You see am so?
You no see am?
Yeye!

Kenn
Jun 17, 2010, 10:49 PM
Indeed there is a God in Isreal, I mean Nigeria :hail:

Cry not, oh ye Kaita, you were merely an instrument in the hands of a fair and justice dispensing God.

Be comforted oh ye good Nigerians.

Have have no sympathy for Lagerback and the NFF

Lagarback willfully allowed greed and ambition to mess up his resume

What was the Swede thinking ?

He tried to reap where Amodu Shaibu laboured

The NFF should have learnt their lesson after 2002

Now the God of Amodu Shuaibu has done it again

First Amodu's God humiliated the NFA and usurper Onigbinde

Now the NFF and Lagarback have received their fair portion of instant justice :hail:

Of a truth, Amodu's God is a God of instant justice

God cannot be mocked, whatsoever a man soweth, that shal he also reap.:clap:

The NFF sowed wind, when they robbed Shuaibu Amodu of the gains of his labour and hired Lagaback to usurp Amodu's well deserved honour :hail:

Now the NFF and Lagarback have reaped the whirlwind :hail:

Abeg, oh ye God of Amodu Shuaibu.

Ye God of instant justice, please make haste and visit Nigeria's poli-thieve-cians


Why are you calling God's name in vain? What has God got to do with this? Did Lagerback sack Amodu? Do you think he needs your sympathy? Look, you want to celebrate Nigeria's loss and imminent removal from the World Cup, go ahead! Stop calling God into silly things!

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Exxcuzme
Jun 17, 2010, 10:55 PM
This Kenn is pathetic. DT, please continue to flog this ugly man.

Vade Mecum
Jun 17, 2010, 10:59 PM
Why are you calling God's name in vain? What has God got to do with this? Did Lagerback sack Amodu? Do you think he needs your sympathy? Look, you want to celebrate Nigeria's loss and imminent removal from the World Cup, go ahead! Stop calling God into silly things!

...

You did not find it silly, when Amodu was robbed of the fruits of his labor ?

Anyway, take it from me:

Today, Nigeria and Nigerians won

Today, justice triumphed

We all know the losers

Indeed God is omnipotent

:hail::hail::hail::hail::hail:

Kenn
Jun 17, 2010, 11:02 PM
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DeepThought,

So, for 10 years, you've been flogging me on NVS and other boards? You? You DeepThought that cannot think your way out of a paper-bag? It's now obvious that your madness and illusions of grandeur are incurable. Thus, at this stage, all I can offer you is pity….Omạ şe O….
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Kenn
Jun 17, 2010, 11:06 PM
This Kenn is pathetic. DT, please continue to flog this ugly man.

Exxcuzme, if you respect yourself, you will stay out of this. And if you choose not stay out, you must not try to insult me, because I have never insulted you. I hope I've made myself clear.

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Tola Odejayi
Jun 17, 2010, 11:15 PM
DT,

So it looks like Kenn is saying that the level of football played in Europe (i.e. in their leagues) is better than the level played in Africa. Hence if coaches are exposed to football played here, they will have a better understanding of the game. Is this something you disagree with?

Do you interpret the paragraph above as saying that European coaches are necessarily better than African coaches?

DeepThought
Jun 17, 2010, 11:20 PM
Honestly this is annoying. It really is.
WHat is wrong with this man? What is wrong?

And what is wrong with Nigerians?

Nigerians,trained in Nigeria are world class. We are doctors , Engineers, Lawyers, Nurses in all parts of the world, excelling in our fields in those parts of the world in which we live and work.

But we are not good enough in our own country , not so?

Look at the trash this man is writing. This thing is just paining me.

This is worse far, far worse than anything a Dewdrops or Latesha can ever , ever write. Those ones are just inconsequential nuisances whom nobody expects to determine policy or whom can be taken seriously.

But this Kenn? This Kenn? THis man Kenn is dangerous. Dangerous!!!

These are the kinds of people that make policy and may be in position to make policy in future.
These are the kinds of people that we take serious. I will make sure I read every article he posts and quickly puncture it when he begins to spread his poison

But once in a while, for whatever reasons, he gets it right (Like the dollar salary thing).

I think the people worrying him left him alone for that period

DeepThought
Jun 17, 2010, 11:24 PM
DT,

So it looks like Kenn is saying that the level of football played in Europe (i.e. in their leagues) is better than the level played in Africa. Hence if coaches are exposed to football played here, they will have a better understanding of the game. Is this something you disagree with?

Do you interpret the paragraph above as saying that European coaches are necessarily better than African coaches?

Now I know you're getting your own kicks winding me up.
I suppose it is Karma and payback for all the times I've wound people up just for fun.

I take it in good faith and I'm grateful that cosmic laws are using you to torment me as pay me back in my own coins. It allows me to shed some bad karma

Osibinaebi
Jun 17, 2010, 11:37 PM
I have kept back from this thread because of muddled emotions..... in 2002, Amodu was removed and then Baba Onbigbinde was brought in, Yakubu who was the highest goal scorer in the African qualifiers was also omitted from the team. So this is exactly not Amodu's first time of being brushed aside.

Have you guys questioned why Keshi was not given the job....... well obviously because he was not going to grease any palm and was not going to take rubbish from the NFF as Amodu did and has been doing.

I believe an home grown coach can do the job but AMODU cannot and i repeat WILL never be able to do the job. So lets stop crying foul in respect of AMODU as a person. This was a man that was shoved aside in 2002 and he still went in again without making concrete plans to safeguard himself against the same occurrence.... this clearly showed that Amodu did not know his worth, how then do we expect players to respect such a person. Amodu as the coach did not have the final say in the team, so why should players care about his presence. Amodu failed to established himself as the boss in the team, so he had no business leading Nigeria into the WorldCup. So i have no tears for him whatsoever. I will never in a million years support the choice of Lagerback, but considering the stupid list of shortlisted coaches... who could we have picked...... the list was so absurd that i personally did not have a choice.

So i implore all AMODU's supporters to stop directing their beef at Largerback, but should face the NFF lead by a stupid and in inept SANI LULU

We still stand a chance and i hope we pull it off against South Korea....... one fact we cannot deny is that the team has played better than they didm under Amodu. My heart goes to Sani Kaita...... he deserves our pity rather than condemnation.... the spirit that takes over footballers atimes cannot be explained

Osibinaebi
Jun 17, 2010, 11:46 PM
Bros ...VADE...
This is just self consolation and it ain't taking you anywhere:D.... just accept the bitter truth we lost.. if we had won, you would not be singing this same tune. Stop wallowing in self pity jare:hail:


You did not find it silly, when Amodu was robbed of the fruits of his labor ?

Anyway, take it from me:

Today, Nigeria and Nigerians won

Today, justice triumphed

We all know the losers

Indeed God is omnipotent

Vade Mecum
Jun 18, 2010, 12:04 AM
I have kept back from this thread because of muddled emotions..... in 2002, Amodu was removed and then Baba Onbigbinde was brought in, Yakubu who was the highest goal scorer in the African qualifiers was also omitted from the team. So this is exactly not Amodu's first time of being brushed aside.

Have you guys questioned why Keshi was not given the job....... well obviously because he was not going to grease any palm and was not going to take rubbish from the NFF as Amodu did and has been doing.

I believe an home grown coach can do the job but AMODU cannot and i repeat WILL never be able to do the job. So lets stop crying foul in respect of AMODU as a person. This was a man that was shoved aside in 2002 and he still went in again without making concrete plans to safeguard himself against the same occurrence.... this clearly showed that Amodu did not know his worth, how then do we expect players to respect such a person. Amodu as the coach did not have the final say in the team, so why should players care about his presence. Amodu failed to established himself as the boss in the team, so he had no business leading Nigeria into the WorldCup. So i have no tears for him whatsoever. I will never in a million years support the choice of Lagerback, but considering the stupid list of shortlisted coaches... who could we have picked...... the list was so absurd that i personally did not have a choice.

So i implore all AMODU's supporters to stop directing their beef at Largerback, but should face the NFF lead by a stupid and in inept SANI LULU

We still stand a chance and i hope we pull it off against South Korea....... one fact we cannot deny is that the team has played better than they didm under Amodu. My heart goes to Sani Kaita...... he deserves our pity rather than condemnation.... the spirit that takes over footballers atimes cannot be explained

Osibi,

I must admit that your post reproduced above, is your finest that I have ever been honored to read on this board.

Having paid my compliments, I must now remind you that the facts of the matter are:

1. That the NFF awarded Amodu Shuaibu a soccer coaching contract

2. That the NFF gave Amodu Shuaibu clear conditions to satisfy

3. That Amodu Shuaibu executed the soccer coaching contract from the NFF creditably, by qualifying Nigeria for the FIFA Soccer World Cup now taking place in South Africa

4. That Amodu Shuaibu satisfied another jugular condition of the Amodu / NFF soccer coaching contract, by leading Nigeria to the third place of the last edition of the CAF / ANC.

5. That in a brazen and audacious breach of the afore-said contract, the NFF callously, insensitively, brutally and ruthlessly set the Amodu / NFF contract aside and engaged the services of one Lagarback

6. That by the lightning speed ouster or near ouster of the Super Eagles from the FIFA world cup, currently holding in South Africa; providence has once again thrown the NFF mistreatment of coach Shuaibu Amodu up front, for public debate and for necessary lessons therefrom.

7. Therefore, if we are to find the proper solutions to the problems currently stagnating the fortunes of the Nigerian Super Eagles, we must re-visit the Amodu / NFF soccer coaching contract and not the pre-contractual Amodu / NFF shenanigans real or imaginary

Cheers and God bless

Vade Mecum
Jun 18, 2010, 12:39 AM
Bros ...VADE...
This is just self consolation and it ain't taking you anywhere:D.... just accept the bitter truth we lost.. if we had won, you would not be singing this same tune. Stop wallowing in self pity jare:hail:

Osibi,

Let me pretend that I did not see your post above reproduced

Up Super Eagles

Aluta Continua

Umkhoto We Sizwe

Amandla

:hail::hail::hail:

Alexa
Jun 18, 2010, 12:51 AM
Alexa baby, how things? Retract ke? Na lie o. Yes i was sure, and for the first 20 minutes of the first half it looked that it was going to happen for us. Anyways it didn't and we move on. All is not lost, albeit with the slimmest of chances.

SCENARIO: Argentina fields a relatively weaker side against Greece, but still manages a basketball scoreline. We play South Korea, and once again Kanu becomes the hero. We trounce South Korea three goals to nothing. Nigeria's Super Eagles do the unthinkable and qualifies for the last sixteen.

That my dear Alexa is the stuff dreams are made of. LOL (There i go shooting my mouth off again. LOL)



Nnaa, my bros, I dey kampe. How your side dey? I salute o...

I like this ya scenario and hope it happens just that way. For now, make I just follow you dey dream and hope say e no go turn to nightmare.:biggrin:

Kenn
Jun 18, 2010, 12:52 AM
Honestly this is annoying. It really is.
WHat is wrong with this man? What is wrong?

And what is wrong with Nigerians?

Nigerians,trained in Nigeria are world class. We are doctors , Engineers, Lawyers, Nurses in all parts of the world, excelling in our fields in those parts of the world in which we live and work.

But we are not good enough in our own country , not so?

Look at the trash this man is writing. This thing is just paining me.

This is worse far, far worse than anything a Dewdrops or Latesha can ever , ever write. Those ones are just inconsequential nuisances whom nobody expects to determine policy or whom can be taken seriously.

But this Kenn? This Kenn? THis man Kenn is dangerous. Dangerous!!!

These are the kinds of people that make policy and may be in position to make policy in future.
These are the kinds of people that we take serious. I will make sure I read every article he posts and quickly puncture it when he begins to spread his poison

But once in a while, for whatever reasons, he gets it right (Like the dollar salary thing).

I think the people worrying him left him alone for that period

I have told you that you're suffering from inferiority complex and, from the evidence you're further providing here, it would seem it is of the acute kind. It's quite a pity that there's no cure. But there is further bad news - I'm going to continue annoying you by always showing you up for the brainless goat that you are! I mean, if you have ever in your life had the better of me in any thinking contest, be it in a debate or whatever, Mr "DeepThought", show us the evidence! I am stating without fear of contradiction that in EVERY exchange I've had with you, you have always ended up with your bum firmly in dust! Oh yes, always thoroughly exposed as the shallow skunk that you are! If you contest that, provide any link to any exchange I've had with you where you think you had the better of me. Just one! And please, don't duck from this challenge, because you've been running your stinking mouth like a faulty tap. Put your money where that dirty mouth is! Provide evidence of any exchange I've had with you in the last 10 years or from whenever to show you've been "flogging" me! Oya! Eranko lasan-lasan! No dance palongo O! Provide proof! Oloriburuku oni dọti, ọmọ oşi! Show us!Oniranu!


..

Austin
Jun 18, 2010, 01:17 AM
Yeeepa ri pa, e gba mi o, owo w'o 'gbo!!!
(Meaning: Oh mi Lawd, I don die o, big money enter bush, come get lost o!!!:D:D:D

DeepThought
Jun 18, 2010, 01:23 AM
I have told you that you're suffering from inferiority complex and, from the evidence you're further providing here, it would seem it is of the acute kind. It's quite a pity that there's no cure. But there is further bad news - I'm going to continue annoying you by always showing you up for the brainless goat that you are! I mean, if you have ever in your life had the better of me in any thinking contest, be it in a debate or whatever, Mr "DeepThought", show us the evidence! I am stating without fear of contradiction that in EVERY exchange I've had with you, you have always ended up with your bum firmly in dust! Oh yes, always thoroughly exposed as the shallow skunk that you are! If you contest that, provide any link to any exchange I've had with you where you think you had the better of me. Just one! And please, don't duck from this challenge, because you've been running your stinking mouth like a faulty tap. Put your money where that dirty mouth is! Provide evidence of any exchange I've had with you in the last 10 years or from whenever to show you've been "flogging" me! Oya! Eranko lasan-lasan! No dance palongo O! Provide proof! Oloriburuku oni dọti, ọmọ oşi! Show us!Oniranu!


..

I don talk am say na crase dey wori you, you and your "I love queen Elisabeth haircut".

The other time, I said they should sacrifice you(to your gods of stupidity and inferiority). People say I wicked.

I suggested the next best thing, that we should sell you and give the "sin money" to area boys to smoke ganja. But when they hear say na you even the area boys say their own never spoil reach . They spat and swore that they would rather kill, rape, loot, commit any crime than to dey take any yeye money wey come from getting rid of you. Who will buy you they said?. They protested the abomination of the selling of a worthless article. When even area boys recognise your worthlessness, wetin remain, your own don finish nobi dat?

So we couldn't sacrifice you, we couldn't sell you and with the respite you've received you escaped to NVS to now continue to write nonsense with that your I love queen Elisabeth haircut And so it falls upon me to take up the unpalatable task of merely continuing to flog you like a dog.

Continue to write rubbish and, I go do you like the Deji of Akure do that poor woman.

I don warn you be dat but I know say you will never listen. Thats O.K, I will never tire of flogging you. Yeye man!

Kenn
Jun 18, 2010, 01:44 AM
I don talk am say na crase dey wori you, you and your "I love queen Elisabeth haircut".

The other time, I said they should sacrifice you. People say I wicked.

I suggested the next best thing, that we should sell you and give the "sin money" to area boys to smoke ganja. But when they hear say na you even the area boys say their own never spoil reach . They spat and swore that they would rather kill, rape, loot, commit any crime than to dey take any yeye money wey come from getting rid of you. When even area boys recognise your worthlessness, wetin remain, your own don finish nobi dat?

So we couldn't sacrifice you, we couldn't sell you and with the respite you've received you escaped to NVS to now continue to write nonsense with that your I love queen Elisabeth haircut And so it falls upon me to take up the unpalatable task of merely continuing to flog you like a dog.

Continue to write rubbish and, I go do you like the Deji of Akure do that poor woman.

I don warn you be dat but I know say you will never listen. Thats O.K, I will never tire of flogging you. Yeye man!


So, the long and short of this matter is that you, Mr DeepThought have no iota of evidence to support your crappy claims? I challenged you to put your money where your mouth is and all you could come up with are the above inanities? You mean you have no honour? You lie for a living and you are proud to come to NVS to fume with indignation against me? DeepThought, I'm sorry to say, you stink! You are of no value in a conversation engaged in by adults. So, now, find your way to the kindergarten playground and please, blow your nose on your way there. We don't want you scaring the real kids...

Bye!

...

Auspicious
Jun 18, 2010, 03:36 AM
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Poor Vincent.

He worked so hard..

But got almost no complement.

The game was an absolute disgrace.

http://thenationonlineng.net/web2/content_images/328/World%20Cup%20football%20match%20Pix.jpg
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Osibinaebi
Jun 18, 2010, 04:35 AM
Bros Vade......

If you are so sure of the contract Amodu signed with the NFF, then you should be helping him file a case in court. Was there a clause in the contract that he should qualify the Eagles and lead them to the World cup or merely for him to qualify. Eventhough i have not seen the contract i seriously doubt if he has ground to contest, else the impunity with which he has been shoved out will not be glaringly displayed. and since we all know, once beaten , twice shy... Amodu has himself to blame


Osibi,

I must admit that your post reproduced above, is your finest that I have ever been honored to read on this board.
Osibi says
Thank you
Having paid my compliments, I must now remind you that the facts of the matter are:
Osibi says
Ok Sir
1. That the NFF awarded Amodu Shuaibu a soccer coaching contract
Osibi says
That there was a contract is not in dispute, but we both don't know the content of the contract for a fact
2. That the NFF gave Amodu Shuaibu clear conditions to satisfy
Osibi says
We both don't know what the clear conditions are on paper

3. That Amodu Shuaibu executed the soccer coaching contract from the NFF creditably, by qualifying Nigeria for the FIFA Soccer World Cup now taking place in South Africa
Osibi says
You cannot be sure of this for a fact, since you do not have a copy of the contract
4. That Amodu Shuaibu satisfied another jugular condition of the Amodu / NFF soccer coaching contract, by leading Nigeria to the third place of the last edition of the CAF / ANC.
Osibi says
same response as above
5. That in a brazen and audacious breach of the afore-said contract, the NFF callously, insensitively, brutally and ruthlessly set the Amodu / NFF contract aside and engaged the services of one Lagarback
Osibi says
Largerback has no business with Amodu's contract

6. That by the lightning speed ouster or near ouster of the Super Eagles from the FIFA world cup, currently holding in South Africa; providence has once again thrown the NFF mistreatment of coach Shuaibu Amodu up front, for public debate and for necessary lessons therefrom.
Osibi says
Well you can only say this cos we did not win... i will wait for you not to rejoice when we eventually qualify for the second round or win on the basis that Amodu has been maltreated

7. Therefore, if we are to find the proper solutions to the problems currently stagnating the fortunes of the Nigerian Super Eagles, we must re-visit the Amodu / NFF soccer coaching contract and not the pre-contractual Amodu / NFF shenanigans real or imaginary
Osibi says
We need not revisit anything, but top tell Amodu to be a man and sign worthy contracts, Amodu's back deals with the same foolish NFF guys cannot allow him to cry foul

Cheers and God bless

No matter how we put the case, Amodu is incompetent and the NFF is full of rogues and fools. I have no love for Lagerback, but that does not mean i can blame him for what is happening. Are you guys suggesting that he should not have applied for the job in solidarity with Amodu as a fellow coach.

We all need to get behind our boys and support them. We need to leave Lagerback out of the equation, it was the fools in NFF that invited him.... Amodu is also a foolish man that does not know his worth and so he is not worth defending or fighting for

Araba
Jun 18, 2010, 04:44 AM
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Poor Vincent.

He worked so hard..

But got almost no complement.

The game was an absolute disgrace.

http://thenationonlineng.net/web2/content_images/328/World%20Cup%20football%20match%20Pix.jpg
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Auspy, abeg no vex O. I neva wan put mouth for dis topic o. Wetin I know. Until I saw the picture. Poor Boy. He don struggle sotay. Me I wish him the best sha in his career. As an aside, me I no watch any naija game O. I praise all of una wey get di courage.

Dapxin
Jun 18, 2010, 06:47 AM
Bros Vade......

If you are so sure of the contract Amodu signed with the NFF, then you should be helping him file a case in court. Was there a clause in the contract that he should qualify the Eagles and lead them to the World cup or merely for him to qualify. Eventhough i have not seen the contract i seriously doubt if he has ground to contest, else the impunity with which he has been shoved out will not be glaringly displayed. and since we all know, once beaten , twice shy... Amodu has himself to blame



No matter how we put the case, Amodu is incompetent and the NFF is full of rogues and fools. I have no love for Lagerback, but that does not mean i can blame him for what is happening. Are you guys suggesting that he should not have applied for the job in solidarity with Amodu as a fellow coach.

We all need to get behind our boys and support them. We need to leave Lagerback out of the equation, it was the fools in NFF that invited him.... Amodu is also a foolish man that does not know his worth and so he is not worth defending or fighting for


That is almost like saying, well because goodluck jonathan was also PDP, that he was also a Yaradua team-member, that we should have allowed Turai mad to take over upon Umoru's predicted expiration last november.

See, It was a matter of principle. Amodu might not be good - and the people making the point that he is also not self respecting having been hired and fired and rehired for years - but he was given the job, he was given a target, and he met that target.

If the NFA (those brainless souls) were to be justified with their Amodu is an idi0t nonsense, and if these lines you propose were to merit any sympathty, he should have been sacked like months and months ago.

And above all, Amodu was a Nigerian. A black African. Going to buy a fcking LaggeBehind 90days or so before a major tourney re-inforces the notion that these Africans are stupid idi0ts in the default mindset, figure!!! And that is not a damage you can put money on.

And my knowledge of fiduciary trust and that kind of thing is a little fuzzy here, who is saying Laggingbehind has no culpability ?

Nonsense. I remember someone talking about his promises of a semi-final finish. In what planet was he born ? And we ? What coach goes to an unknown country in 3 weeks ( it was on the BBC he had that much time to prepare his team ) not knowing what is coming===> Absolute f!cking epic FAILURE ?

And hear this also from the BBC: Nigeria was the only country in the entire worldcup without a single home-based player! On african soil, from a country with thousands of skillfull and raw street players, that is sacrilege.


It might seem the issue is being made about Amodu and Amodu, No! It would be childish to reduce it that way, No! Mr. Amodu just represents the face of the corruption, senselessness and utter Zombie-ism that the NFA, sports Ministry and Aso Rock, and Nigeria ultimately is.

He had the job, delivered his targets, he should have been supported to do his thing. It was the right thing to do!

And it then becomes a joke when people who should know better rationalise the disgraces' off. in some nauseating ways....

Dapxin
Jun 18, 2010, 06:56 AM
As an aside, me I no watch any naija game O

hehehehehe, igba ti won gba nonsense ni qualifiers,
Ti Amodu n struggle pelu awon Arugbo Eagles,
won roooku ni result,
E o follow,
Won wa dey worldcup,
won gba omo Oyinbo, e wa n pray, e wa n dream,

Awa, taa n wo n gbayen, ti a ri stupidity,
a pariwo pe, nothing dey happen,
pe omo oyinbo tun gba wa, make money,
won ni kaaa shut up,
pe awa o wa patriotic,
a try lati so fun won pe, ko matter,
pe team yi o ni nathing, pe ka ma tun go kolomental,
pelu impossible.

Super Eagles wa crash,
everybodi wan ja, won wan run for cover,
ti ba n se ope lo pe, Enyeama, Akooni omo Aba,
to wa inspired,
gbooooogbo globe ni iba mo pe, 9ija yen, won useless ju ju juu ?

Msheeews (scratch turntable here),
awon kan wa n da eagles nu
bi eni pe eee mo pe nigeria funra e gan ti fe crash,
O ya,
e sun,
e yin dreamers ti o face rea liiiii ty....


hehehehehheehhehehehehehehehehe.

Mikky jaga
Jun 18, 2010, 09:12 AM
This is Amodu's World Cup, no doubt. I have never seen where providence (for those that do not like God) determined to justify a mere mortal like in this Amodu's case.

Amodu had a task of beating Kenya to qualify for the World Cup. He did it. Some haters said it was Moz that did him the favour forgetting that if Amodu had not won, no matter by how much margin Moz beat Tunisia with, he would not qualify.

Now is the turn of Lagerback to win S. Korea and pray that Arg. beat Greece. Most of the people praying for that scenario were the ones that criticized Amodu's manner of qualification.

But as tomorrow will come after today, this Lagerbeer has reached the end of the road. He cannot rise to the occasion as Amodu did. (He still has the opportunity of doing it to prove me wrong). Still some revisionists insist this failed coach is better than Amodu without any evidence other than their bias.

Mikky jaga
Jun 18, 2010, 09:26 AM
What do these Sani have in common?

Sani Abacha

Sani Lulu

Sani Keita

Somebody said they were obstacles on the path of Nigeria's progress, one time or the other.

Mikky jaga
Jun 18, 2010, 09:46 AM
When Nigeria conceded what then was thought to be the fastest goal of the tournament, I told them this Lagerbeer Eagles will still set more records. Now here goes:

First country to concede a goal to Greece in WC

First country to be defeated by Greece in WC

First African country to exit the WC on African soil?

And one bootlicker said Amodu would have performed worse than this. We paid so many millions to Lags so we would not be disgraced at the WC, but what do we have here?

Mikky jaga
Jun 18, 2010, 09:55 AM
Well, my crystal ball has not failed me yet.


I looked into my crystal ball and what did I see?

I saw a Lagerbeer that looked like a scarecrow in the National colours

I saw a thick cloud gathering to dim the shine of the Eagles

I saw a ray of light from Jonathan trying to unsuccessfully dispel the cloud

I saw Amodu in one corner crying: which injustice is this?

I saw NFF and PTF standing by to block any chance of Nigeria ever progressing in the World Cup.

I saw Nigeria coming home early because the genii that bring goodluck did not favour Nigeria, so Nigeria kept losing games they should have won by stroke of ill luck.

Showcase
Jun 18, 2010, 01:17 PM
Gentlemen. I'm watching Germany V Serbia and can't believe what I'm seeing. Is this the same German team that played Australia? Are the Aussies that bad or the Serbian side so good? Germany down by one goal already.

Osibinaebi
Jun 18, 2010, 01:58 PM
You guys can mourn all you can and celebrate the exit of the Eagles.... the point still remains that Amodu is a big fool.... once beaten, twice shy, did he not learn from the lessons of 2002, was it too much for Amodu to prove himself outside Nigeria. This same thing happened to Keshi with Togo, he still went on to coach another national team (Mali) and we hear him being in the news of trying to coach manyother countries in Africa... but Amodu will rather stay put in Nigeria and bribe the olodos in NFF to get the job...... If Amodu is worth his onions, he should be laughing to the bank now cos he would have sued the living daylight out of NFF... but then his hands are not just tied, but are also stinking dirty.... So guys should stop crying for AMODU, but concentrate on how we can clear the rubbish of NFF that we have and also stop blaming Largerback cos he did not sack AMODU neither was he the one that employed himself

Mikky jaga
Jun 18, 2010, 02:19 PM
You guys can mourn all you can and celebrate the exit of the Eagles.... the point still remains that Amodu is a big fool.... once beaten, twice shy, did he not learn from the lessons of 2002, was it too much for Amodu to prove himself outside Nigeria. This same thing happened to Keshi with Togo, he still went on to coach another national team (Mali) and we hear him being in the news of trying to coach manyother countries in Africa... but Amodu will rather stay put in Nigeria and bribe the olodos in NFF to get the job...... If Amodu is worth his onions, he should be laughing to the bank now cos he would have sued the living daylight out of NFF... but then his hands are not just tied, but are also stinking dirty.... So guys should stop crying for AMODU, but concentrate on how we can clear the rubbish of NFF that we have and also stop blaming Largerback cos he did not sack AMODU neither was he the one that employed himself

So, it's now a crime to want to use your knowledge for the benefit of your country?

Every Nigerian must prove himself outside to be shown to be competent?

The first time around, Amodu was an employee of NFA, so they could fire him as they liked. This time around, he demanded and was given a contract that covered the WC. FYI, Amodu is collecting his entitlements under the contract now while leaving Lagerbeer to do the sweating. Whoever gave you the idea that this situation is exactly like the previous one must have misinformed you.

Nigeria is the loser.

Mikky jaga
Jun 18, 2010, 02:21 PM
Germany lost. Even lost a penalty. Germany defeated in Group stages after such a loooong time.

Showcase
Jun 18, 2010, 02:23 PM
Could that match have been fixed? That Podolski could not even score a penalty kick? It is the worst German game in recent times.

Dapxin
Jun 18, 2010, 02:27 PM
Could that match have been fixed? That Podolski could not even score a penalty kick? It is the worst German game in recent times.

Fixed ? I dont see it.

The germans were throwing fouls all oer the place. The ref wasnt taking it. Klose gets a silly Keita-ic red card, and a mometary loss of concentration, 1 - 0 down.

This is football. Until you score, and until you win, you are nothing.

Showcase
Jun 18, 2010, 02:35 PM
Well. Next. Slovenia V USA. Slovenia already beat Algeria by one goal to nothing. It will be another miracle if USA survives this match, but I am learning not to predict matches here. France down to Mexico by 2-0. Imagine.

NoLongThing
Jun 18, 2010, 02:55 PM
The form book at this world cup is no respecter of big names but I will still go by my earlier belief that Ghana will get to the semi-finals at the least.

Then again I did predict those babas of the SE will beat Greece. Na wa!

Osibinaebi
Jun 18, 2010, 03:09 PM
MIKKY,
Are you not crying more than the bereaved:D:D.But whatever, should your beef be directed at Largerback or the clueless NFF that contracted him. We cannot undo the stupidity of the NFF, so why not get behind the boys and Largerback. I am not a fan of Largerback, but given the circumstances i cannot beef the man.
Since it looks like you have a copy of the contract that Amodu signed with the NFF, why don't you produce it for us. Amodu can have all the money from the contract, but he is not worthy taking us to the Worldcup.... Tell me about a Keshi or an Eguavoen, then we can be on the same boat. Amodu could not even command the respect of his player and he was aware of this working conditions and he still went ahead cos of the money i guess, so why should i shed tears for him now. This is all about having integrity and knowing ones worth..... do you remember the mess the Mikel boy took Amodu through before the nations cup and Amodu still handed him a starting shirt... come on.... Amodu was technically scared of the players, they seems to have a larger than life image.... but bring in a coach who does not take nonsense from player( which Amodu never was) and you will see the team being whipped into line.

I guess at thsi stage, you should be talking about we having a competent NFF in which we Sani Lulu and Ogunjobi should be shown the way out rather than rejoicing at the failure of the team... but then its a free world, so jubilate all you can and throw in the jibes......... I must not see you rejoice when we win the world Cup o!!!!:D:D:D


So, it's now a crime to want to use your knowledge for the benefit of your country?

Every Nigerian must prove himself outside to be shown to be competent?

The first time around, Amodu was an employee of NFA, so they could fire him as they liked. This time around, he demanded and was given a contract that covered the WC. FYI, Amodu is collecting his entitlements under the contract now while leaving Lagerbeer to do the sweating. Whoever gave you the idea that this situation is exactly like the previous one must have misinformed you.

Nigeria is the loser.

Uwaa Sef
Jun 18, 2010, 03:56 PM
Osibinaebi,

Quit the crap and try getting a grip on the issue here. Hopefully, I'll find time to address those Amodu posts of yours.

Later

Osibinaebi
Jun 18, 2010, 04:31 PM
Uwaa Sef

AHAAAAA... na all the crap wey you carry for head dey waka about na him make you never get time to reply all the post abi... no worry, cry all you can for Amodu and celebrate the ouster of Nigeria even before the final whistle... but stop blaming the blameless... na Largerback employ himself???? abi na Largerback sack Amodu. stop trying tom make excuses for Amodu's shortcomings....... When baba Onigbinde was brought in to displace Amodu, you had not beef cos he was a Nigerian Abi??????
Quit all your clowning and face reality... the mess is from the NFF and the stupid and clueless board members


Osibinaebi,

Quit the crap and try getting a grip on the issue here. Hopefully, I'll find time to address those Amodu posts of yours.

Later

NoLongThing
Jun 18, 2010, 04:42 PM
Brilliant goal. You just gotta love the American spirit shown in this world cup especially their coach's tactical switches and substitutions. Now 2-2 from being 2 nil down, what a fight back - now let's see whether they can finish it off.

USA! USA! USA!

Mikky jaga
Jun 18, 2010, 04:51 PM
MIKKY,
he is not worthy taking us to the Worldcup.... Tell me about a Keshi or an Eguavoen, then we can be on the same boat. Amodu could not even command the respect of his player and he was aware of this working conditions and he still went ahead cos of the money i guess, so why should i shed tears for him now. This is all about having integrity and knowing ones worth..... do you remember the mess the Mikel boy took Amodu through before the nations cup and Amodu still handed him a starting shirt... come on.... Amodu was technically scared of the players, they seems to have a larger than life image.... but bring in a coach who does not take nonsense from player( which Amodu never was) and you will see the team being whipped into line.


I guess you now have a coach that the boys respect, and the result is showing indeed!! If Amodu had all the obstacles you enumerated above and still qualified us for the World Cup, he must be a good coach indeed!!What have the other coaches you mentioned achieved compared to what Amodu has achieved in his coaching career. If NFF had looked at the achievement of Lagerback, they would have avoidede Lagerbeer like plague. Amodu's resume is very impressive.

Boys that were indisciplined under Amodu, have they shown any discipline now? Yesterday boys talking about what they do not know.

Mikky jaga
Jun 18, 2010, 04:57 PM
Brilliant goal. You just gotta love the American spirit shown in this world cup especially their coach's tactical switches and substitutions. Now 2-2 from being 2 nil down, what a fight back - now let's see whether they can finish it off.

USA! USA! USA!

I was just about calling Auspy out, that another of his teams has lost again when that leveler came. I join in hailing the fighting spirit of The USA. The Eagles never had one tenth of their guts, Lager or no Lager.

omaks
Jun 18, 2010, 05:45 PM
Our Super Eagles Huffed and Puffed through World Cup Qualifying. They were lucky to scrape through under the tutelage of Amodu. Many of us almost developed Cataract, watching the incompetent display , tactics and technics on show by Amodu and his squad. It was ominously obvious that Amodu was not up to the task of taking charge of Nigeria, but the timing of his removal was also wrong. Personally i would have loved for him to take us to the World Cup, but i would not have been so optimistic as i am with Lagerback, that Amodu could have performed well. In fact i still believe that our performance would have been worse that it currently is.

Right now there is still a remote chance that we can rescue ourselves (Super Eagle) and scrape through. Afterall, that is one thing we are well adept at doing. So watch our Super Eagles perform the popular Houdini act once more and scrape through to the last 16.

Lastly, whatever anyone says about Lagerback, he has got our Super Eagles playing better than they did under Amodu (Even though their best is still not good enough). That can be understood looking at the time he has been in charge of the team (three weeks of actual contact). Now, imagine what could have been, if the idiots at NFF had actually taken the bold decision to sack Amodu earlier than they did and employed Lagerback. I'm sure the team would have been more cohesive than they currently are.

Mexico had played 28 games or so coming into the World Cup. They played 7 games in May alone. Brazil have played 100 (yes 100) games coming into the world cup, and there are other countries who have played far more games than nigeria can lat claim to. Is it therefore any wonder that Mexico, Brazil and Argentina are doing well in this tournament while nigeria isn't? Let's get out house in order. Let's not shift the blame on Lagerback. Let's tackle the main problems facing our football administration in nigeria. Then and only then can we reap the fruits of hard labour invested in our football. Right now. We have assumed the mantle of 'Minnows of Africa' in the comity of World Football.

Osibinaebi
Jun 18, 2010, 06:12 PM
MIKKY,
I had stated earlier oin that larger back is not my man and i never supported the hiring of his person... but i was totally in suppoort of the sacking od Amodu. Amosu need to assert authority as a coach, Amodu nened to be the one drawiung up team list... do you remeber nations cup whereby Kanu was the opne on the side line dishing out instructions while Amodu sat down with his hands on his cheek...... let kanu try same thing today... Even string headed Amokachi had his yansh gummed to the seat throughout this world cup, but that was not the case during the nations cup. Accept the simple fact that Amodu was not in control of the team. Yes Amodu worked with all that obstacle, but that showed he did not have guts of laying down rules, he did not have the gut to tell the NFF to go to blazes whenever they interfered in team management.

Your beef should not be directed at Largerback, rather face the NFF, abi the man steal your wife..... and i keep asking you thses questions
1. Did Largerback give himself the job
2. Did Largerback instigate the sacking of Amodu
3. Should Largerback have refused to apply for the advertised job in solidarity with Amodu?
4. Did Largerback claim he was better than Amodu
5. should you not be directing you beef at Sani Lulu and his disorganized NFF

On the indiscipline of the boys, was it not Amodu's duty to whip them into line, but what did you friend Amodu do... he looked away and some players became more influential than others.


I guess you now have a coach that the boys respect, and the result is showing indeed!! If Amodu had all the obstacles you enumerated above and still qualified us for the World Cup, he must be a good coach indeed!!What have the other coaches you mentioned achieved compared to what Amodu has achieved in his coaching career. If NFF had looked at the achievement of Lagerback, they would have avoidede Lagerbeer like plague. Amodu's resume is very impressive.

Boys that were indisciplined under Amodu, have they shown any discipline now? Yesterday boys talking about what they do not know.

Mikky jaga
Jun 18, 2010, 06:39 PM
Our Super Eagles Huffed and Puffed through World Cup Qualifying. They were lucky to scrape through under the tutelage of Amodu. Many of us almost developed Cataract, watching the incompetent display , tactics and technics on show by Amodu and his squad. It was ominously obvious that Amodu was not up to the task of taking charge of Nigeria, but the timing of his removal was also wrong. Personally i would have loved for him to take us to the World Cup, but i would not have been so optimistic as i am with Lagerback, that Amodu could have performed well. In fact i still believe that our performance would have been worse that it currently is.

Right now there is still a remote chance that we can rescue ourselves (Super Eagle) and scrape through. Afterall, that is one thing we are well adept at doing. So watch our Super Eagles perform the popular Houdini act once more and scrape through to the last 16.

Lastly, whatever anyone says about Lagerback, he has got our Super Eagles playing better than they did under Amodu (Even though their best is still not good enough). That can be understood looking at the time he has been in charge of the team (three weeks of actual contact). Now, imagine what could have been, if the idiots at NFF had actually taken the bold decision to sack Amodu earlier than they did and employed Lagerback. I'm sure the team would have been more cohesive than they currently are.

Mexico had played 28 games or so coming into the World Cup. They played 7 games in May alone. Brazil have played 100 (yes 100) games coming into the world cup, and there are other countries who have played far more games than nigeria can lat claim to. Is it therefore any wonder that Mexico, Brazil and Argentina are doing well in this tournament while nigeria isn't? Let's get out house in order. Let's not shift the blame on Lagerback. Let's tackle the main problems facing our football administration in nigeria. Then and only then can we reap the fruits of hard labour invested in our football. Right now. We have assumed the mantle of 'Minnows of Africa' in the comity of World Football.

You forgot to add that the coach of Ivory Coast was one of the coaches rejected in favour of Lager. That coach had to tutor Ivory Coast that could not get to the Semi Finals in Angola where Amodu went to win the bronze. That coach also had less time to work on Ivory Coast than Lager. Yet Ivory coast is not losing so woefully as Lagerbeer tutored side.

When you are talking try to balance issues. A bad coach is a bad coach. It has nothing to do with when he was hired.

Mikky jaga
Jun 18, 2010, 06:50 PM
MIKKY,
I had stated earlier oin that larger back is not my man and i never supported the hiring of his person... but i was totally in suppoort of the sacking od Amodu. Amosu need to assert authority as a coach, Amodu nened to be the one drawiung up team list... do you remeber nations cup whereby Kanu was the opne on the side line dishing out instructions while Amodu sat down with his hands on his cheek...... let kanu try same thing today... Even string headed Amokachi had his yansh gummed to the seat throughout this world cup, but that was not the case during the nations cup. Accept the simple fact that Amodu was not in control of the team. Yes Amodu worked with all that obstacle, but that showed he did not have guts of laying down rules, he did not have the gut to tell the NFF to go to blazes whenever they interfered in team management.

Your beef should not be directed at Largerback, rather face the NFF, abi the man steal your wife..... and i keep asking you thses questions
1. Did Largerback give himself the job
2. Did Largerback instigate the sacking of Amodu
3. Should Largerback have refused to apply for the advertised job in solidarity with Amodu?
4. Did Largerback claim he was better than Amodu
5. should you not be directing you beef at Sani Lulu and his disorganized NFF

On the indiscipline of the boys, was it not Amodu's duty to whip them into line, but what did you friend Amodu do... he looked away and some players became more influential than others.

I have never addressed myself to Lagerback as a person since right from the beginning I have declared him a failed coach already. I always address those that appointed a failed coach to displace a successful coach (Amodu). And the apologists that try to ram the failed coach down our throats as something good, when it is obvious he is nothing near good.

If it is only discipline that makes a great team, then most teams are not great. The most skillful players are also, most of the time, the most erratic, still coaches found ways of accommodating them.

Winning is the name of football. If you have eleven men on the field, playing like robots but could not win their matches, your discipline is useless.

Dapxin
Jun 18, 2010, 06:52 PM
USA won that game - the ref stole a goal away from them.

+

And I am listening to the BBC and England screaming how they beaten Algeria even before a single ball is kicked.

You always want them to lose dont you ?

Osibinaebi
Jun 18, 2010, 07:08 PM
MIKKY..
I take the underline/bolden away from your post and i am also of the same opinion. I don't give a hoot of the Lagerback person, but then admit there is more discipline in the team which is a building block for success in team sport.

One question , would you have simmered down a bit if a more accomplished coach had been appointed in place of Lagerback:D:D. Going by what you wrote that highlighted in red, does this mean that that if Lagerback end up wining the cup... you will be appeased:D


I have never addressed myself to Lagerback as a person since right from the beginning I have declared him a failed coach already. I always address those that appointed a failed coach to displace a successful coach (Amodu). And the apologists that try to ram the failed coach down our throats as something good, when it is obvious he is nothing near good.

If it is only discipline that makes a great team, then most teams are not great. The most skillful players are also, most of the time, the most erratic, still coaches found ways of accommodating them.

Winning is the name of football. If you have eleven men on the field, playing like robots but could not win their matches, your discipline is useless.

Dapxin
Jun 18, 2010, 07:08 PM
Omaks started out:
Our Super Eagles Huffed and Puffed through World Cup Qualifying.

And I reply.

Argentina huffed-er and puffed-er more than Nigeria to the worldcup. I mean, Argentina's qualification was 100% messier and nonsensical than that of Nigeria; Yet, Maradona was not sacked!

Find out. He got supported! From his president to his FA. And they are already favourites....

The Super Eagles FAIL is a direct reflection of our pathetic national situation. And who said LaggerBack is not to blame ? He has and is reaping bountifully from the mess too. You know.

Osibinaebi
Jun 18, 2010, 07:12 PM
I am on my way the a pub full of English fans and supporters.I am purposely going there to mock England..... i am also going there with an Algerian flag.... i pray the Algerian do me proud eventhough i really don't give a hoot about their general performance...... but anything for the noisy English to lose..... how i hate those English press:D
Go GO GO GO GO GO GO Algeria!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dapxin
Jun 18, 2010, 08:22 PM
Now they are on the radio summarily saying:

the only good thing about the half time is it is 0 0 How you wish someone remind them, Its only / just / Algeria :p

asshats!

NoLongThing
Jun 18, 2010, 08:27 PM
England, England, England, England. Come on England!!!! Come on the three lions!!!

Dapxin
Jun 18, 2010, 09:22 PM
england outplayed. outclassed. outpassed and totally out-teamed. Very comforting! If only #algeria had a striker...#worldcup

NoLongThing
Jun 18, 2010, 09:23 PM
Men, I can't take this anymore. How, why, where, which, whatever. Totally disgusted!!!!!!!!!!:evil::evil: This is a disaster!!!

Dapxin
Jun 18, 2010, 09:24 PM
^
sorry O. NoLongThing. I am so loving it. See, England is not as good as they like to think :)

Uwaa Sef
Jun 18, 2010, 09:35 PM
"I have kept back from this thread because of muddled emotions..... Not to worry. Your posts confirm that. You should have just done yourself a favor and stayed out of it like you started out doing. If your emotions hadn't been so muddled up, you would have been clear-headed enough to realize that disapproval of Lagerback implied disapproval of NFF, yet, in essence, you're telling us to blame NFF, and not Lagerback. Isn't that redundant? Sir, nobody is blaming Lagerback. Lagerback just happens to be NFF's point man and poster boy in this regard. You failed to realize that no one (at least, not me) was talking about Amodu the person. The issue here is about Amodu the coach, Lagerback the coach, and Nigeria's colomentality. I don't even recollect anyone saying or implying that Amodu was a good or better coach. The issue here is that colomentality had us discard our own for "football mathematicians" (Lagerback and the like who supposedly know the answers). Take it or leave it, it's on record, and will ever be on record that Amodu qualified Nigeria for the 2010 World Cup. How he did it is irrelevant. Who cares if Amodu knows his worth or not? Who cares if he came back to NFF after being shoved off, and by the way, what's wrong with wanting to check your ego at the door and help your country? Makes me wonder if you also think that soldiers who put their lives on the line (voluntarily, at that) in service to country, don't know their self worth. I hope not.

I'll be back.

Later

NoLongThing
Jun 18, 2010, 09:37 PM
I am not sure it is as easy as that you know. Are these not the same guys who cruised through the qualifiers? Is Rooney not one of the best premiership strikers? Has Lampard not been consistently exceptional for the last so many years? How about Gerrard for the kops?? Is Terry not the captain on Chelsea etc etc?? I mean I just don't gerrit anymore. Is it the fear factor or the no-fear factor. This is just too much, I am going to get plastered tonight - that's for sure!

I swear it is hard supporting my teams at this world cup. Too damn hard.

Dapxin
Jun 18, 2010, 09:43 PM
NolongThing,

Is it not the same argentina team who bungled and bungled thru the qualifiers ?

My own diagnosis of th england condition is very simple but multi dimensional.

One, the team, well there is no team - but some of the players are unrecognisable because of the weight of pressure.

Just because you have the best league - of multitalented players worldwide - doesnt create the best team in the world. It merely creates an environment for the best players in the world to rule.

And thirdly, You do not host a daytime television program calling your opponent in a world cup encouter "Just Algeria" ooooooor proclaiming you were "gonna kick ass of the USA".

In this sport, more than anyone else, you respect your opponent and then try to play. And then hope for the best.

omaks
Jun 18, 2010, 10:13 PM
You forgot to add that the coach of Ivory Coast was one of the coaches rejected in favour of Lager. That coach had to tutor Ivory Coast that could not get to the Semi Finals in Angola where Amodu went to win the bronze. That coach also had less time to work on Ivory Coast than Lager. Yet Ivory coast is not losing so woefully as Lagerbeer tutored side.

When you are talking try to balance issues. A bad coach is a bad coach. It has nothing to do with when he was hired.

I take it you haven't heard the latest about Sven 'Loose Zipper' Ericksson. The guy hardly does ant coaching in any of the jobs he's had. He was in charge of England, and Many of his players are now saying he did next to nothing to add to their success or otgherwise. training was left to the coaches. The same is happening in the Ivory coast team. Let's see how far they go.

While we're at it, The English have turned on Capello. The Honeymoon period is over, and you can bet if he doesn't get to the next stage they will hound him out. That's exactly what should be done to any unsuccessful coach Amdu or Lagerback.

We need rebuilding, and pretty fast. Rebuilding should start from the NFF itself. Then we should give the young coaches a chance. We should play as many friendlies as ppossible. We should pay much more attention to the African Nations Championship, where we may unearth more local talent. All these overfed Foreign - based players don't have enough hunger in them to wherethe national shirt. We should improve the welfare of the players in terms of Insurance. It's not just about giving them hefty bonuses during tournaments. What if one of them sustains a career ending injury while on national duty? Who picks the TAB? Therein lies the real crux of the matter.

We need improvement to our local leagues. We need training standards, . There is a need for total overhaul in the way we manage football in Nigeria. To lay the fault at the doorsteps of Lager - whatever is just like chasing shadows. We all have an idea where the problem really lies, so lets stop kidding ourselves.

omaks
Jun 18, 2010, 10:18 PM
England, England, England, England. Come on England!!!! Come on the three lions!!!

Sorry NLT, Three Lions were more like 'Three Mice today'. It will be gratifying for me if England follows our Super Eagles out the world cup. 'The Three Mice' have been shown how overrated they truly are. ANytime the Super Eagles exit the world cup my allegiance will automatically change to my traditional favourites Brazil.

Dapxin
Jun 19, 2010, 07:29 AM
that england match was bad maaaaaaaaaaan. awful bad. Algeria almost torn them to shreds..../nice :)

Mikky jaga
Jun 19, 2010, 07:35 AM
England has shown that only bad players blame their coaches. Good players get the job done no matter who the manager is.

Mikky jaga
Jun 19, 2010, 08:15 AM
I woke up this morning, having less to do and thus decided to visit Auspy in his palatial Mansion somewhere in downtown USA. I found him sitting on his balcony, downcast and looking as morose as ever. I decided to cheer him up and this con versation occurred:

MJ: Hi! Auspy, what's up
Auspy: My man, things are not looking bright at all! Our boys disappointed me baaad!

MJ: Oh!, Is that why you look like a man that just lost a jackpot? We still have a mathematical chance of progressing
Auspy: Mathematical, you say? Was that not what they wanted to avoid when they sacked Amodu?

MJ: Oh, well! I guess Nigerians love mathematics, hence we produced a great mathematician in Chike Obi. Even our election was decided on 12 2/3 mathematical formula.
Auspy: Look, Mikky, I do not have time for banters this morning. What exactly brought you here?

MJ: Auspy, I think you are taking these things too seriously, If Nigeria fuc'ed up, there are other African Nations that are doing us proud.
Auspy: Yeah, like Algeria playing goalless against England. It's crazy meen.

MJ: And that was the same Algeria Amodu beat to win bronze in Angola.
Auspy: No, No, No! Don't even bring Amodu into this. Amodu got that bronze by some stroke of luck. He is not a coach at all.

MJ: But luck is also part of the game!
Auspy: Yeah, wharrever! But a serious football Nation does not put her hopes on luck. We need a technically sound manager....

MJ: (cuts in) Like Lagerback?
Auspy: Yeah, Lager err.. well, maybe not exactly, but a foreign coach nonetheless. I can't see any Nigerian coach competent enough to handle the Super Eagles at the World Stage. yet.

MJ: The most painful part is that Osaze guy
Auspy: Osa who?

MJ: Odemwingie! That your friend that said "Oyibo na oyibo"
Auspy: Oh, that one, his play in this World Cup was not impressive at all, I do not know what went wrong with him

MJ: Maybe he watched too much video and forgot how to play ball.
Auspy: MJ, I think it's time for you to go, I need to get my mind off football for some time. This World Cup is turning out to be a nightmare. Even US team has not won a match since the game began.

MJ: Well, I get to run along. Say me well to Yetunde. But, honestly, Auspy, you need to cheer up a little.
Auspy: Thank you, now, just leave me alone.

Mikky jaga
Jun 19, 2010, 08:41 AM
Fresh from beating Algeria in their opening game last Sunday, Slovenia arrived knowing a win would seal their passage to the knockout rounds - a remarkable prospect for a nation of only two million people, appearing in only its second World Cup.

Who says the bigger the better? Abeg we need many nations of 2 million people out of this Nigeria.

Dapxin
Jun 19, 2010, 08:44 AM
A week in a worldcup is a long time

http://i50.tinypic.com/jjxl77.jpg

Mikky jaga
Jun 19, 2010, 09:17 AM
0-1, 1-2, and 0-0.

I just hope Lagerbeer will surpass the record set by Onigbinde. Although the two both of them have common streak of living on past glories.

For memory upgrade:

Onigbinde lost his first match 0:1
He lost his second 1:2 and managed in
His last game to get 0:0

Lagerbeer has matched Onigbinde so far. A goalless draw will send us back to 2002. You cannot keep repeating the same things over and over again and expect to get a different result.

Up Lagerbeer!! Up NFF!!

Chief Kalu
Jun 19, 2010, 12:06 PM
:D
See how them transform Kaita.

NoLongThing
Jun 19, 2010, 01:50 PM
A NEW WORD JUST ADDED TO THE OXFORD ENGLISH DICTIONARY-KAITA

KAITA [Kai-ta]

v. Kai*ta, Kai*tas, kai*ta'ed, kai*ta'ing

n. kai*ta, kai*tas

adj. kai*tas*tro*phic

adv. kai*tas*tro*phic*a*lly

1. To single-handedly dash the hopes and aspirations of one's nation in the full glare of other nations
2. To karate-kick your way out of the greatest stage/spotlight ever known to man
3. To destroy/zap/siphon the energies of teammates plus 140 million people through unexplainable stupidity
4. To act foolishly, unintelligently or irrationally and IMMEDIATELY regret the action by falling on your knees

(Etymology: Derived from the dreadful match between Nigeria and lowly Greece at the 2010 Soccer World Cup)

Usage:

"Please, please, do not KAITA what we have been building for 50 years o! Oloshi!"

"I don't care what people say, I will KAITA the multi-billion dollar plan!"

"That man, you know, the hopeless, useless, visionless, KAITAing guy!"

"I was KAITAing until I met Jesus!"


Synonyms:

1. Sabotage
2. Incapacitate
3. Destroy/Demobilize
4. Jeopardize
5. Impair
6. Implode
7. Shege Banza!

OTHER MEANINGS AND DERIVATIVES

KAITA (Kai-ta)
n. Kai*ta

A term that describes a temporary but kaitastrophic loss of mental competency and faculty.
See also Instant Amnesia.

KAITAISIS (Kai-ta-i-sis)
n. Kai*ta*i*sis

1. A new mental sickness recently discovered by Neurosurgeons. It affects the victim's ability to think right or make right judgement especially when it matters most.
2. Victims often confuse the game of soccer for a karate session. Its derived from the new word KAITA

KAITARIZATION (Kai-ta-ri-za-tion)
n. Kai*ta*ri*za*shen

Kaitarization is the act of being turned into a useless mongol OR a Shaolin Temple soccer player.

KAITA-KAITA (Kai-ta-kai-ta)
n. Kai*ta*kai*ta

Kaita-Kaita means unprecedented confusion and unimaginable pandemonium
Usage: "Kaita-kaita don burst!"

KAITA (Kai-ta)
n. Kai*ta

A highly explosive bomb needed more in Iraq than in Nigeria
Usage: "Allied Forces just dropped the K-Bomb! Yes! The Kaita! Ladies and gentlemen, the war is over!!!"

KAITARACT (Kai-ta-ra-ct)
n. Kai*ta*ra*kt

A one-of-a-kind eye defect that makes a soccer player see another player as a Jabulani Ball to be kicked
Usage: "Pity, he suffered from a sudden chronic case of Kaitaract"

Auspicious
Jun 19, 2010, 01:52 PM
:D
See how them transform Kaita.

Expanded..

http://nigeriavillagesquare.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=916&d=1276945458

Uwaa Sef
Jun 19, 2010, 03:10 PM
So far, doesn't look like the Ghana that came out against Serbia.

Later

Auspicious
Jun 19, 2010, 03:14 PM
+

Good grief it's only been 10 minutes since the game started.

Na wah for soccer analysis and commentary o! :o
--

Uwaa Sef
Jun 19, 2010, 03:14 PM
I no tell you? 1-0 Aussie.

Later

Uwaa Sef
Jun 19, 2010, 03:27 PM
+

Good grief it's only been 10 minutes since the game started.

Na wah for soccer analysis and commentary o! :o
--Go back and review Ghana vs Serbia, and tell me how Ghana looked in the first ten minutes of that game. Oh, and by the way, Ghana is down one. Now, that doesn't necessarily mean Ghana is going to lose the match, but the score right now vindicates my observation so far.

I just wish I knew I was discussing football in its entirety (coach, manager, players, etc.) with people who even kicked the ball once in their lives.

Later

Uwaa Sef
Jun 19, 2010, 03:29 PM
Now, we're talking. Up Ghana.

Later

Ajibs
Jun 19, 2010, 03:29 PM
Ghana equalizer!!!! The advantage of having a very youthful team. Strong and pressing the ball and fast. Australia must have some real bad luck. Two main strikers gone in two games! Nigeria should ask Ghana if Ecowas agreement will allow us to borrow K. Asamoah for our next game!

Mikky jaga
Jun 19, 2010, 03:43 PM
That was the only World Cup bound team that Amodu lost to. Only a very good side could have defeated the Eagles Amodu presented in Angola, not these lousy Lagerback team that gets beaten by every jack.

Mikky jaga
Jun 19, 2010, 03:48 PM
Expanded..

http://nigeriavillagesquare.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=916&d=1276945458

Anyone with that type of look deserves a straight RED.

Auspicious
Jun 19, 2010, 03:51 PM
+

Teacher: What do you say to make Mikky jump ten feet high?

LilAuspy: Err...Lagerback?

Teacher: BRILLIANT! Here, have a Lollipop.

LilAuspy: Tank yu Mah!
--

Ajibs
Jun 19, 2010, 04:09 PM
I am not sure it's my HDTV or the cameramen in this competition but the TV coverage and the pictures and replays and slow mo are simply amazing quality to watch! Thumbs up to South Africa!

Auspicious
Jun 19, 2010, 04:14 PM
I am not sure it's my HDTV or the cameramen in this competition but the TV coverage and the pictures and replays and slow mo are simply amazing quality to watch! Thumbs up to South Africa!

Whatever, Nigeria can do much better in HDTV etc.

I blame it on Lagerback. :p

Ajibs
Jun 19, 2010, 04:32 PM
Chneke! What is wrong with ghana? How can 10 men be doing them laik dis? And the. They are now starting to play selfishly. Good goal keeping from Kingston. Ghana defense needs some koboko

Muntari finally! Maybe they can resume playing with sense. And this is a guy who can score from the midfield. Ghana just seems To have lost control of this game. That defense is missing John Mensah. I mean 85th minute from 25th playing ten men and they could not score? Why has the coach not brought on an additional striker to play beside Gyan?

Dimaanu
Jun 19, 2010, 04:43 PM
Good morning, Gentlemen:

Did Anthony Annan really deserve that Yellow card?
His opponent tripped himself, methinks.

Ajibs
Jun 19, 2010, 04:50 PM
Oh blimey! Now Ghana down to ten?

Auspicious
Jun 19, 2010, 05:03 PM
Not a bad performance from Ghana.

And even Australia for that matter.

Better than Eagles at least.

Mikky jaga
Jun 19, 2010, 05:05 PM
Ghana now tops the table.

How I wish it was Nigeria! But, Oh, Lagerbeer would not allow Amodu perform wonders again!! That Swede had better not return to Nigeria. He will surely be stoned.

Kenn
Jun 19, 2010, 05:13 PM
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Mikky Jaga,

Since Nigeria lost to Greece, you have ratcheted your silly rhetoric against Lagerback and have in the same vein canonised Amodu. But if you have been following the national mood, you will realise you are almost alone on this sickly course. I mean, apart from you and your claque around here, tell me how many Nigerians are today pining for the days of Amodu simply because of the prospect of Nigeria being knocked out of the World Cup? Tell me how many are blaming Lagerback for what happened so far at the World Cup? Who, apart from you, is thinking of stoning him? And, just like Vade, you want to tell us God has justified Amodu? Of course, trust your type to lazily bring religion into it to obfuscate the matter. When you cannot think, bring God in to cover your rotten arrse!

Now, please, get it into your head that all these silly comparisons you make between Amodu's qualification results or African Nations Cup results with the two that Lagerback has played is misinformed. People who understand football know that there is a vast difference between the team put together by Lagerback and that produced by Amodu. They know that a game against Kenya in a World Cup qualification campaign is different from a game against Argentina or Greece at the World Cup proper. They know that Amodu never rose to the occasion, because if he did, there wouldn't have been a national clamour for his removal. They also know you are being silly to think that just because Nigeria beat Algeria for the bronze at the African Nations Cup under Amodu, the fact that Algeria drew with England means anything for our situation, since neither England nor Algeria are in our World Cup group. They know you are a bloody hypocrite to be pointing out that Sven Goran Erikson was in the shortlist for the Nigerian job but was not taken, because even if he was the choice, you still would have been out here bleeding for your beloved Amodu and you still would have considered anyone who supports his choice as suffering from colonial mentality. They know that the fact that Ivory Coast held Portugal to a draw means nothing for our own situation.

Indeed, any averagely intelligent person, even if not conversant with football, can see that your comparisons and commentaries are childish and that your jubilations are empty celebrations of your own vacuity than any potential Nigerian failure. People who understand football know that the World Cup is just an episode in the life of a national team. They know it is just one competition with its highpoints and heartaches. They know the team needs to be rebuilt long before Lagerback came on the scene and most are happy with the bit Lagerback has done in rebuilding that team, even though for whatever reasons, the results do not favour us yet in this World Cup and in his first and only two competitive games so far. Good followers of football are not and will never compare Lagerback with Amodu, because there really is no basis. The difference is clear in the new composition, play and attitude of the team. We are comparing Lagerback to the benchmark we have set as a nation moving forward and some of us can firmly say without any fear of contradiction that we have moved forward from the Amodu years, whatever happens at this World Cup.

Of course, you and your clueless camp can continue chirping on and celebrating Amodu's congealed failure as some kind of Nigerian football golden era, those who know are moving on and that process of rebuilding will continue after the World Cup, whether or not Lagerback remains. And yes, Amodu will never return to lead the national team again, despite the underground moves now being made by his godfathers.

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Ajibs
Jun 19, 2010, 05:35 PM
to buttress my point about the need for player development, take a look at what Obasi says here:


Chinedu Obasi missed a glorious chance to put Nigeria ahead against Greece and explained that his legs had gone after sprinting nearly 50 metres to get to the opposition penalty box.

"It was really big chance. I had run more than 50 meters trying to get the ball and pass it. I was expecting it in the goal but then it came back.

"It happened so fast. As I gave the ball, I was a little bit tired when I released the last pass and I was jogging and then I saw it coming back at me. It was a big miss for me," Obasi told

As much as I understand as an ex sportsman myself on how tasking and demanding it is to play for 90 minutes on the pitch, determination and adrenaline should have taken over and killed the tired spirit that he felt. That was indeed a glorious chance that was missed. This is where as we says in sports, you get that extra 10% to make your work rate 110% which technically is impossible.

NoLongThing
Jun 19, 2010, 05:41 PM
Looks like I am going to have to start supporting those teams that I really want to lose. I can't understand how Ghana could not beat the Aussies, the African teams are turning out to be big time disappointments!

Mikky jaga
Jun 19, 2010, 06:02 PM
Okay, Kenn, I agree withj you.

Lagerbeer has done a very wonderful work helping us to squander $1.5m in 3 months. I think he deserves the GCFR award, yes, the one given to Jonathan recently.

Welldone Lagerbeer. The Eagles are now scoring goals freely. In fact, their attack is causing opponents to shiver. The defence nko, na no go area for attackers. You can see how the midfield always dominate any game they play that other countries now dread to face Nigeria.

In fact Lagerbeer, na you biko. After you na Kenn. But me I prefer a coach that gets results. Algeria got result, Ivory Coast got result, Ghana is leading her group, but Nigeria? No comment.