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Bunch17
Sep 17, 2006, 08:04 PM
There is nothing like a conspiracy theory to keep the blood circulation going.

Now were the army officers the pro coup brigade?

Were they the anti coup brigade?

Conspiracy theorist wanna know.

Calche
Sep 17, 2006, 08:19 PM
Bunch17:
Saharareporters.com reports that the contigent is made of a group of army officers restructuring the nigerian Army and they were going for a retreat at Obudu with the chief of army staff. Sounds like something fishy... were they invited to obudu for some reasons we don't know?

Bunch17
Sep 17, 2006, 08:27 PM
Bunch17:
Saharareporters.com reports that the contigent is made of a group of army officers restructuring the nigerian Army and they were going for a retreat at Obudu with the chief of army staff. Sounds like something fishy... were they invited to obudu for some reasons we don't know?

Thanks Calche, this is really getting intriguing.
I intend to watch this space.

BLF
Sep 17, 2006, 11:45 PM
So, who all was on this plane. Hell, I searched everywhere only to find same sketchy news. I am just curious to know the names of those on the flight.

emj
Sep 18, 2006, 12:41 AM
Daily Trust

The general officer commanding(GOC), 2 Division, Major General Nuhu Bamalli, and the GOC 81 Division, Major General J.O. Adesunloye and Chief of Administration, Major General Salihu Musa Lemu were among the 10 Generals who died after a military aircraft crashed yesterday with 17 people on board. Those who died include eight major generals and two brigadier generals. Daily Trust gathered that three Lt. Colonels survived the crash. Top military sources confirmed the deaths even though military authorities were yet to make an official pronouncement as at press time. According to the Director Defence Information Brigadier General Felix Chukwuma, the Dornier 228 plane which was conveying the senior officers from Abuja to a retreat at the Obudu Cattle ranch, Cross River State, yesterday crashed at Kotu-Mbaduku, a village in Kwande local government of Benue State. He said the plane had 17 passengers on board with the crew inclusive, adding that a rescue team has been deployed to the area. The incident occurred at about 10 am, but Daily Trust could not confirm what was responsible for the crash. Defence Headquarters had also not released the list of those on board as at press time.
The Chief of Army Staff and the Chief of the Nigerian Air force were said to have flown immediately to the crash site. Wing Commander Sadeeq Shehu, Command PRO, Tactical Air Command (TAC), Headquarters, Makurdi, who also confirmed the crash to Daily Trust said the Benue state governor, George Akume and the Benue state police commissioner, Mr. Ibe Aghanya and the state Director of the SSS, Mr. Samuel Tomuno, left Makurdi yesterday evening to visit the crash site.
The National Emergency Management Agency and other rescue agencies were said to have immediately instituted a rescue operation yesterday, press officer of NEMA, Mr. Ibrahim Farin-loye, told Daily Trust on phone. Group Captain Emeka Ozomeina, the Director of Public Relations and Information, Nigeria Airforce, also confirmed the accident. Speaking to Daily Trust also, the spokesman the Nigeria Civil Aviation Authority (NCAA), Mr. Cam Adurogboye, said though he is aware of it, he could not give details as the Dornier plane is a military aircraft and that it is not on the NCAA register.
It would be recalled that in October 26, 2000 A Nigerian Airforce training aircraft crashed into thick bush near the Niger Delta, seriously injuring its six occupants, witnesses said.
The Dornier-8 aircraft with five officers and one rating on board was on a training flight when it crashed at Jedo village, some 300 meters from the Warri oil refinery.
In September 1992, 158 people were killed when military transport plane went down near Lagos.
NEXT....DAILYTRUST IS A BURDEN
[QUOTE]Profile of some of the Dead
Major General Nuhu Bamalli was born on October 15, 1954 in Kano state and had his early education at the Nigerian Military School (NMS), from 1968-1972 where he obtained the West African School Certificate (WASC). He later proceeded to the Nigerian Defence Academy (NDA), as a member of the 14th Regular Course from 1973-1975 and bagged the Nigerian Defence Academy Certificate of Education (NDACE). In his quest for educational excellence, he was at the Federal University of Technology, Owerri, during the 97/98 session for his Post Graduate Diploma in Management (PGDM). He was also at the Imo State University and the University of Ibadan where he obtained a Master of Science Degree in International Affairs, Diplomacy and Strategic Studies respectively. Major General Bamalli, after his commission as Second Lieutenant into the Artillery Corps in 1975, has attended several military courses both locally and internationally. These include the Adjutant General Officers Advance course, USA, Regimental Survey Officers Course, India, Ghana Armed Forces Staff College, Officers Gunnery Staff Course at School of Artillery, Pakistan, Commanding Officers Course, Jaji and the National War College Course 9, Abuja. Since his commission into the Nigerian Army as a regular combatant, Major General Nuhu Bamalli has held many appointments including instructor, training officer, staff officer at both the headquarters, Corps of Artillery and Army Headquarters. Other appointments held include Staff Officer to the President, Commander-in-Chief 1988-1990; ADC to the President, Commander-in-Chief 1990-1993; Commanding Officer 322 Field Artillery Regiment, Benin 1993-1994; Directing Staff, Senior Division, Armed Forces Command and Staff College, Jaji 1994-1996; SO1 Welfare Services AHQ Department of Army Administration 1996-1997; Brigade Commander, 34 Field Artillery Brigade Owerri 1997-2000; Participant National War College, Course 9, 2000-2001; Deputy Director, Operations, Defence HQ, 2001-2002 and Coordinator, Curriculum Review Team (AFCSC), 2002-2003. General Bamalli was also at the United Nations Mission in Sierra Leone (UNAMSIL), as Sector West/Nigerian Contingent Commander and Commander, Northern Command/Nigerian Contingent from 28 June 2003-31 December 2004. The last appointment held before taking over as GOC 2 Division, was Deputy Commandant, National War College, Abuja, from January-December, 2005. In addition to these appointments, General Bamalli has participated in various special assignments either as chairman, secretary or member of the committees to reposition the Nigerian Army. He has also been honoured with the following military decorations: Forces Service Star (FSS), Meritorious Service Star (MSS), Distinguished Service Star (DSS), Republic Medal (RM), The General Service Medal (GSM), Commander of the Independence Order of Equatorial Guinea (CIOEG) and the United Nations Mission in Sierra Leone (UNAMSIL) Medal (Numeral 3). His awards include; Silver Medal for being the best Army Cadet of 14th Regular Course, Chief of Army Staff Commendation Certificate for outstanding performance at Commanding Officers Course (COC 5/94), Mr. President, Commander-in-Chief award for being the best graduating participant of the National War College, Course 9 and Chief of Army Staff (COAS), award for presenting the best research paper in Land Operations at the National War College, Course 9. Major General JO Adesunloye was born on 20 June 1952. He attended the Nigerian Defence Academy as a member of Regular Combatant Course 13. He attended several coruses including Junior Staff Course, Jaji; Frequency Management Course, Graduate Equipment Entry Orientation Course, India, Senior Staff Course; Senior Officers Intelligence Awareness Course, Electronic Warfare Course; Senior Staff Course and National War College. General Adesunloye holds the following qualifications: Security Management Course, United Kingdom; MA Diplomatic Studies, United Kingdom; MSc degree, Cranfield University, UK and MA Diplomacy and Global Security, Westminster University and MSc Digital Systems Design. General Adesunloye has held several command and staff appointments including Officers Commanding, Static Squadron; Adjutant, 520 Signal Regiment; Commanding Officer 560 Signal Regiment, Acting Colonel, Operations/Training Headquarters, Nigerian Army Signals; Commander, 56 Signal Command; Directing Staff, Armed Forces Command and Staff College, Jaji; Commander, 51 Division Signal; Commander, 53 Division Signal; Defence Attache, London and Commandant, Nigerian Army Signals. He is a recipient of the following merit awards/decorations: Forces Service Star, (FSS), Meritorious Service Star (MSS), Distinguished Service Star (DSS), Pass Staff Course with Dagger (psc(+)) and Fellow of the War College among several others. Major General Salihu Musa Lemu was born on 1st January 1952 in Lemu Gbako LGA of Niger state. After his O’ Levels, General Lemu started his cadet training at the Nigerian Defence Academy as a member of Regular Combatant Course 14 on 2 July 1973 and was commissioned to the rank of Second Lieutenant on 13 December 1975. Gen. Lemu has attended the following courses; Anti-Tank platoon commanders course; Young Officers Course; Jungle Warfare, Combat Survival Course; Military Police Officers Advance Course; United States of America; Army Junior Staff Course; Command and Staff College and National War College, among others. He held several command and staff appointments which included: Platoon Commander, 68 Infantry Battalion (disbanded); Battalion Adjutant, 68 Infantry Battalion; Platoon Commander, 181 Mechanised Infantry Battalion (NIBAT 1 UNIFIL); Battalion Second-in-Command, 82 Provost Battalion; Officer Commanding, Headquarters Nigerian Army Military Police Admin Company; General Staff Officer, Grade II Training Army Headquarters Commanding Officer, 174 Motorised Battalion; Commanding Officer, NIBAT 15 ECOMOG, Liberia; Directing Staff, Command and Staff College; Colonel Coordination Headquarters Nigerian Army Military Police; Colonel, General Staff 82 Division; Commandant, Nigerian Army School, Zaria and the Provost Marshall (Army) Nigerian Army Corps of Military Police. General Lemu had the following qualifications: Diploma in Correctional Administration; Diploma, Physical Security; Diploma in Command Leadership; Diploma in Criminal Investigation and Diploma Law Enforcement. His awards and medals includes: Pass Junior Course (pjsc); Pass Staff Course with Dagger (psc(+)); Forces Service Star (MSS) and Fellow of the War College (fwc). Other medals are: ECOMOG Medal; United Nations Medal; Corps Medal of Honour (CMH); Silver Jubilee Medal and Republic Medal. His hobbies include jogging, golfing and watching science movies. General Lemu was married and had children./QUOTE]
.......May their soul rest in peace

WaleAkin
Sep 18, 2006, 02:45 PM
Abeg, i need someone to give a logical and detailed explanation why aeroplanes dey crash for Nigeria anyhow.

Now i am not joking at all...............i was once told by a fellow Nigerian who had boarded a particular flight from Lagos to Abuja and they had to wait an additional 30 Minutes on the tarmac, cos he was seated by the window, he peeped out and to his utter disbelief, a Vulcanizer was inflating the tyres of this jet ready for take off.

I had landed in MMA, Lagos and as we taxied on the tarmac, i saw a dog strolling leisurely on the adjoining runway.........i searched so well and within seconds discovered that the perimeter fence that seperated the Airport from the Dopemu end of the tarmac had collapsed.

Check the tyres of these so-called Local flights in Nigeria, they are worse than the tyres of Kabukabu plying Oluyole to Challenge in Ibadan. Most headrests are so filthy, seats are tattered and most dangerously, some money miss roads readily use the mobile phones even when the plane is ready for take off.

When we had the Bellview Plane Crash, the Minister of Aviation came on TV and said that because the Radar System is old and really stressed, it is put off most weekends so it can be effectively used for the coming weekdays...................That simply means that aeroplanes in the sky from Saturday to Sunday are OYO (On Your Own)

How much would it cost to buy a BRAND NEW RADAR SYSTEM for all the airports in Nigeria..........Lets have the Proforma Invoice pls!!!!

Cheers,
Wale

smilee
Sep 18, 2006, 03:44 PM
@ Wale

The problem is we do not value human life. One would think after all the past passenger jets that crashed/loss of lives, the Nigerian goverment would have invested in new radar systems throughout the country.

gwobezentashi
Sep 18, 2006, 03:56 PM
The problem is we do not value human life. One would think after all the past passenger jets that crashed/loss of lives, the Nigerian goverment would have invested in new radar systems throughout
Did somebody say INVEST in radar? Has he finished investing in CONGO? They don't believe in investing in the people or our infrastructure. Merchants, all of them, importing everything for twice the cost! They invest in themselves and end up as victims of the same poor infrastructure. Look at Adisa. Bamali was an IBB boy too. It's just not a way to go. May their souls rest in peace and their loved ones, deepest sympathies.

Aluta!

Gwobezentashi

ITOOKNOW
Sep 18, 2006, 03:57 PM
The planes used in Nigeria are condemned second hand planes bought from Asia, South America and East Europe. When these third world countries buy new planes from north America and west Europe , they sell them to Africa as a dumping ground after long years of usage.

Apart from this, the pilots are from these areas and the planes are poorly maintained since Nigeria has a poor maintainance culture.

My advise is that, before you fly locally in Nigeria, please, please , first write your will .

May God have mercy for us and salvage us.

May the souls of the plane crash victims rest in peace.

AMEN!

Oghre
Sep 18, 2006, 06:12 PM
Its a shame that IBB, Buhari, Sani Yerima, Atiku, AA Abubakar, some Northern emirs, fundamentalist jihadist northern leaders and the likes of Datti Ahmed and co were not board. Half of our problems as a nation would have been solved overnight... what a shame!

May the souls of those who died rest in peace if at all they did not contribute in one way or the other to the woes of Nigeria.

EezeeBee
Sep 18, 2006, 07:40 PM
Just read this report, culled from the BBC and see my comments below, especially the last sentence I highlighted:


Nigeria mourns for crash generals
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Three days of mourning have been declared in Nigeria for 10 of the most senior army commanders who died when their military plane crashed.

Those killed near the south-eastern town of Obudu include eight major generals and two brigadier generals, the authorities said.

President Olusegun Obasanjo called the crash a "monumental tragedy" and is flying home early from Singapore.

Two other officers also died, while at least four survived, the military says.

There were 18 people on board the Dornier 228 aircraft when it crashed into a hill 18 nautical miles from Obudu after flying from the capital, Abuja.

'Big loss'

The private meeting had been ordered by the new chief of army staff to discuss the challenges facing the military.

The BBC's Alex Last in Nigeria says it is thought the restructuring of the task force in the volatile, oil-rich Niger Delta would be one of the key issues for discussion; the other being the army's role in maintaining stability in the run-up to next year's elections.

A spokesman at the Nigerian defence headquarters, Brigadier General Felix Chukwuma, told the BBC the crash would affect the whole defence establishment:

"They are the top echelon in the army headquarters... It is a big loss, irreparable, but the army shall still wade on."

Captain Emeka Ozomena told the BBC it was too early to speculate on the causes of the crash. President Obasanjo has ordered an investigation.

More than 200 people died in two air disasters last year, leading many to question the safety of Nigerian planes.

After the disasters, several airlines were grounded while safety checks were carried out.

What, pray tell me, are NIGERIAN planes? Do we manufacture planes? Do we even maintain planes? It is this irresponsible, atomistic treatment of news as a commodity by the BBC in this instance, that is very unhelpful.

What is 'unsafe' is Nigeria's AIRSPACE comprising of the planes themselves, the airports, the radar systems and the maintenance facilities. Until we begin to see the airspace as a system, the environment as a system, healthcare delivery as a system etc, we will continue to chase shadows and pursue quick fixes such as "Oya, procure, pay for and install radar" without asking the question - How will radar work with no electric power on the ground at the airport?

MrOneNaija
Sep 18, 2006, 09:01 PM
THE SORRY STATE OF THE NIGERIAN MILITARY

Although one cannot rule out the possibility of foul-play considering the fact that these are higly troubled times in Nigeria and especially the fact that the entity most responsible for the havoc and malaise in Nigeria today is none other than the increasingly paranoid and desperate tyrant called Obasanjo, it is instructive, as a first step, to cast a look at the parlous state of the Nigerian military under the current tin god of Aso Rock. Nigerians remember the deliberate and criminal attempt by the dictator to effectively render the national army ( and other security agencies for that matter) an ineffectual outfit at the beck and call of the tyrant and his weird fantasies. The talk about the generals going to Obudu to consider a putative 're-structuring' of the army is most laughable. Please read the following commentary regarding what I have variously referred to as Obasanjo's praetorian guard and its anti-people role in the present dispensation.
http://www.amanaonline.com/Articles/art_387.htm

So, will citizens accept once more the crocodile tears of Baba and his confederates who instead of using the national resources at their disposal to re-build and adequately equip a viable and modern national army are busy looting the commonwealth dry even as they and their thugs shamelessly continue to pontificate about a so-called war against corruption?

THE TRAGEDY OF CALIGULA http://www.nigerialinks.com/Articles/Tondu/2003/09/tragedy-of-caligula.html

EezeeBee
Sep 18, 2006, 09:30 PM
Nigeria: Govt Names Deceased Officers, Declares Three Days of National Mourning

Nigeria First (Abuja)

September 18, 2006
Posted to the web September 18, 2006

Abuja

The Federal Government on September 18 released the names of the 12 senior military personnel who died in the Nigeria Air Force plane, which crashed on Sunday September 17.

The Senior Special Assistant to the President on Media, Mrs Oluremi Oyo announced their names as follows:

1. Major General S O Otubu

2. Major General Salisu Musa Lemu

3. Major General JTU Ahmedu

4. Major General J O Agboola - Military Secretary

5. Major General Nuhu Bamaili - GOC 2 Div

6. Major General J O Adesunloye - GOC 81 Div

7. Major General P N Haruna

8. Major General B Ineya

9. Brigadier General Y J Braimoh

10. Brigadier General M D Bawa

11. Major General Duniya

12. Lt Col M A Mohammed - the pilot

The following however survived the crash. They are:

1. Col A L Disu

2. Col O C Ajuwa

3. Col N I Albasu, as well as

4. Three (3) crew members, including a female

According to Mrs Oyo, the President has also ordered three days of national mourning for the officers.

"During the three day period, all flags will fly at half mast. The President has expressed his deep condolence to the families of the bereaved and ordered immediate investigation into the crash.

He has also ordered the suspension of the National Arts festival (NAFEST) which was billed to open in Yenogoa, Bayelsa state on September 18"

Why, oh why the heck should the NAFEST be suspended? Is there any consideration for the arrangers of that festival? Were they responsible for the crash? Is that the ONLY festival/conference/meeting taking place in Nigeria? If not, why are ALL other events not being cancelled? What does NAFEST have to do with the crash? It's answers to simple questions like these that can take Nigeria forward.

Imagine all those who have made arrangements to participate in the NAFEST? All their plans have changed! Idiocy in high places!

EDIT: May God grant the relations of those lost in the crash the strength and fortitude to bear the tremendous loss.

kvin33
Sep 18, 2006, 09:41 PM
How does this country even survive day-to-day. One tragedy after another.

God please, papa abeg, give some to Cameroun, or Ghana Ehen?? How you go carry de tin dey knack us for nyash like so? Which kind life be dis??

The cream of Nigerias army generals in one plane, a tin can plane, all at the same time. That is just a dangerous idea, very wierd idea. Considering the Ejigbo plane crash you'd have thunk.... Even more shocking, the COAS was also scheduled to be on the same flight, wow?? Where do they get their "travel agents"??

sniper
Sep 19, 2006, 12:50 AM
THE SECOND TIME IN NINE YEARS , SAME PLANE GOD HELP US




Date: 12 SEP 1997
Type: Dornier 228-212
Operator: Nigerian Air Force
Registration: NAF034-1229
C/n / msn: 8230
First flight: 1994
Crew: Fatalities: 0 / Occupants: 2
Passengers: Fatalities: 0 / Occupants: 8
Total: Fatalities: 0 / Occupants: 10
Airplane damage: Written off
Location: Nguru (Nigeria)
Phase: Takeoff
Nature: Military
Departure airport: ?
Destination airport: ?
Narrative:
The Dornier ran into a ditch during take off. The pilot lost control and the plane ran into a tree.



Date: 17 SEP 2006
Type: Dornier 228-212
Operator: Nigerian Air Force
Registration: ?
C/n / msn:
First flight:
Crew: Fatalities: / Occupants:
Passengers: Fatalities: / Occupants:
Total: Fatalities: 12 / Occupants: 18
Airplane damage: Written off
Location: near Vande Ikya (Nigeria)
Phase: En route
Nature: Military
Departure airport: Abuja International Airport (ABV/DNAA), Nigeria
Destination airport: ?
Narrative:
The Dornier, carrying military officers for a retreat at the Obudu Cattle Ranch. The airplane flew into a hillside, 18nm from the Ranch.


Sources:
Air Force plane crashes (Vanguard, 18-9-2006)


This information is not presented as the Flight Safety Foundation or the Aviation Safety Network's opinion as to the cause of the accident. It is preliminary and is based on the facts as they are known at this time.


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Tony
Sep 19, 2006, 01:19 AM
Na wao! may God save us!

Auspicious
Sep 19, 2006, 05:28 AM
Why, oh why the heck should the NAFEST be suspended? Is there any consideration for the arrangers of that festival?
Eezee,
I don't think the suspension of the National FESTIVAL of Arts is out of order. It is a national tragedy that just occured and it will be quite insensitive of the government for the celebration to go on when the top brass of the Military - 12 of them - just lost their lives a day before.

Also note that the government will also be villified or persecuted by many Nigerians (politicians, media et al) if the occassion - the festival - had gone ahead just like that.

Well..that's how I see it sha. May those left behind to mourn the loss of their loved ones find the fortitude to bear their losses.

Auspicious.

Tsohon Soja
Sep 19, 2006, 12:23 PM
Dear All,

These are trying times. Times for soft sentiments and deep considerations. Lives have been lost. Indeed lives of a cream of Nigerians on a journey to think-out better ways to foster the beneficial future of a giant pillar of Nigerian dynamics, as the Nigerian Army. This is certainly not a time for bickering and bile-spewing.

If we are to conjoin the disaster with the goings-on of our national polity, I do not argue against the right of anyone to do so. But this is a time of National mourning and so a time for national reflection. Lets us throw more love, respect and consideration for the dead and their families and friends, than to engage in insults , innuendos and castigations. There will be much time for all that.

Please send the most thoughtout love and sweet consoling poetry to the dead and their families. If just for this period.

I for one has lost a crop of people who I shared a lot with over the past two decades and a half. To me they are humans - breath, flesh and blood, and not just some press creations or statisticals. I presently am sharing the tears and anguish of their children, wives, mothers, fathers and all the dearest to most of them. As I finish this missive, I shall be returning to them. The reality is this real to me.

My dear villagers, I beg profusely for you condolences to us all. At least for this mean time.

The comforter(s) desires/deserves your comforting.

PS

EMJ - Thanks for your sentiments and patriotism.

X-Boy!
Sep 20, 2006, 12:05 AM
May the soul of these officers rest in peace and may the Good Lord gives the families the fortitude to bear the loss. Major-General Nuhu Bamalli was an officer and Gentleman, and he will truly be missed.

emj
Sep 20, 2006, 04:31 AM
My father's death painful —Duniya's son
By Evelyn Usman & Patience Saghana
Posted to the Web: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 Vanguard Newspaper



Eldest son of the late Major General Bitrus Duniya, Paul yesterday described his father’s death as a rude shock and a heavy blow for the family. He said this was the most painful moment in his life.

Looking devastated by his father’s sudden death, 24-year-old Paul said the ill-fated plane which claimed the lives of eight Majors-General including that of his father, thwarted his dreams of seeing his father witness his graduation from the Nigeria Defence Academy (NDA).

Paul who is on the last lap of his training at the NDA told Vanguard yesterday at Ann Barracks, Yaba, that the last moment with his dad was when he paid him a visit at the Academy in Kaduna. The late Major-General Duniya who was the Commandant of the Nigeria Army Ordinance Corps Service (NAOCS) was expected to be among top military officers to grace this year’s Passing Out Parade (POP) at the NDA, Kaduna.
Describing his dad as one of the best in the whole world, Paul said, “when he came to Kaduna and told me he would be coming to officiate the POP billed for September 30, 2006, he promised he was also going to be present during mine next September, as that would remind him of when he was also a 2nd Lieutenant in the Nigeria Army. But all that is not to be because my father will not be there to witness my graduation."
That was the last discussion I had with him. When he was leaving, I never had any premonition of the fate that would later befall him.

“I got to know he travelled when I called the house last week. I was hoping to see him when he returned only to wake up on Monday morning with the rude shock of the news of the plane crash which claimed the lives of several General including that of my dad. To say the least, it is indeed sad because he was the best father in the whole world. A father that would always discourage us from spending recklessly saying we should rather invest in shares and toe the path of God’s righteousness”

Family members and sympathisers still thronged the bereaved family abode to give one or two words of encouragements. The widow, reportedly left for Abuja this morning to witness the interment of her late husband and other victims of the Dornier 228-212 plane crash which was initially billed for today but was postponed till tomorrow.
Most of the visitors included top serving military officers like Brigadier General U.T Usman, Brigadier General Osiegbe, Brigadier J.O Olorunfemi, Colonel E.M Osasoya amongst others and retired military officers.


..................

Ednut
Sep 20, 2006, 01:12 PM
No disrespect to the dead Generals but I don't see a single IGBO or Eastern Nigerian General listed among those guys that were going to reposition the future of the Nigerian military. Or did I miss it while speed-reading through all these articles, etc? All I see is nothing but Hausa and Yoruba names and it makes it not too easy for one to mourn with fellow Nigerians. My people were disrespected in the first place when the meeting was planned in their neck of the wood and they were totally excluded. And when they Igbo complain, they will be called all sorts of unprintable names.

emj
Sep 20, 2006, 02:23 PM
No disrespect to the dead Generals but I don't see a single IGBO or Eastern Nigerian General listed among those guys that were going to reposition the future of the Nigerian military. Or did I miss it while speed-reading through all these articles, etc? All I see is nothing but Hausa and Yoruba names and it makes it not too easy for one to mourn with fellow Nigerians. My people were disrespected in the first place when the meeting was planned in their neck of the wood and they were totally excluded. And when they Igbo complain, they will be called all sorts of unprintable names.

Ednut--you must be kidding me:rolleyes: So you don't mourn with those who mourn becos ur tribe/ethnic group was not involved in the repositioning of Nigeria abi:eek: Are you sure that they are not already on ground ahead of the team that took dis flight. I think that when next ur fingers hit the keyboard to write, you should think through before writing. Our thought towards those who suffered loss was not based on their ethnicity---i wish that you will get a grip over ur mind plsssssssss

Ednut
Sep 20, 2006, 02:37 PM
emj,

The so-called meeting was taking place in eastern Nigeria and there is no evidence of a single General from the East invited to this meeting to reposition Nigeria. This smacks those of us from the east as quite insensitive of these Nigeria ruling tribes. Of course like they say emj, you have to wear the shoe to feel the pain or even notice it.

VOR
Sep 20, 2006, 07:33 PM
Ednut, I can't believe what you wrote. You are upset because Igbo officers were not victims of the crash? You cannot mourn the death of a fellow Nigerian because Igbo officers are not part of the name count of people that died or survived the crash? Families and friends are mourning the loss of loved ones........please do not bring ethnicity into this, it's tasteless!!

You will be surprised that if some Igbo officers were involved in the crash some here on this same NVS will come here to complain that Nigeria is killing off the creme of Igbo soldiers....part of a conspiracy theory to wipe out Ndigbo.
You complain that Igbo men in the military where not part of the meeting arranged to plan a course for the Nigerian military. Is it not here that we have some Ndigbo say they want nothing to do with Nigeria, they want Biafra!!!?
You see the mix messages you guys are putting out there. Which is it, participate in building one Nigeria or Biafra?

Auspicious
Sep 20, 2006, 07:51 PM
EMJ, VOR:

When I saw Ednut's post last night, I could't think of a way of making him see the absurdity of the statement he made..so I moved on.

An accident occured and several officers of the Nigerian Armed Forces died. I think it is terribly absurd (for lack of a better word) that the only thing that stood out to Ednut was the fact that a military aircraft carrying members of the armed forces to Cross Rivers in the South-South (not the East - his so-called "neck of the woods") for a meeting to reposition Nigeria did not include an Igbo officer. So the Igbo officer could die like the others? No?

Yes, VOR, had they been present on the flight, next we would read from conspiracy theorists like Ednut is that Igbo officers were deliberately eliminated by putting them on a faulty plane..and they only added a few officers of Yoruba and Hausa extraction to make it look "real".

Anyways, while Ednut is busy highlighing the "suffering" of the Igbos, I hope he makes time to note that there were no South-South or Middle Belt etc soldiers that flight.

How pathetic it is that some have taken their whinning to a new level - to the level of bemoaning the fact that their people missed an opportunity to die! Lord have mercy!

Auspicious.

Ednut
Sep 20, 2006, 11:28 PM
When I saw Ednut's post last night, I could't think of a way of making him see the absurdity of the statement he made..so I moved on.

@ Auspy,

My post was made this morning, check the date and time and time. SO do I move on since you obviously have my post mixed up with some'else.


the only thing that stood out to Ednut was the fact that a military aircraft carrying members of the armed forces to Cross Rivers in the South-South (not the East - his so-called "neck of the woods") for a meeting to reposition Nigeria did not include an Igbo officer. Auspy

The only thing that you guys missed was that a party was planned in Eastern Nigeria and no General from the East was invited to the party. How would you feel if someone holds a party in your house and you were not invited or informed about this party? And this party might even affect your everyday life yet you were not invited. And there is no such thing as South-South. You can ask any geography teacher or check with your friendly computer. Read all the foreign news reports on this incident and they all said South Eastern Nigeria.


So the Igbo officer could die like the others? Auspy

This was not about anybody dieing but about people excluded from a workshop that was planned for the restructuring of a nation they are part of.


Anyways, while Ednut is busy highlighing the "suffering" of the Igbos, I hope he makes time to note that there were no South-South or Middle Belt etc soldiers that flight. Auspy

And that makes it alright? I already noted that the East were excluded and your so called South-South (whatever that means), the part that are in the Eastern region, were excluded. As for the middle belt, you may want to know that Niger State had three or four of those Generals as her indigenes.


I can't believe what you wrote. You are upset because Igbo officers were not victims of the crash? VOR
VOR, I am not upset about anything but I was pointing out that a major part of the stakeholders were ignored by whoever planned that meeting and the crash only helped to expose how two ethnic groups are usurping every aspect of Nigerian society ignoring the cash cow of the nation, Eastern Region. My argument has nothing to do with the tragedy but was only using it as a vehicle to point out the state of the nation. The Niger-Delta people who may be the target of the said meeting, could have been represented but that will only make sense so they too were ignored - not invited to the table - although I bet they were going to provide the service, you know make the beds, clean the room, stuff like that.


Is it not here that we have some Ndigbo say they want nothing to do with Nigeria, they want Biafra!!!?
You see the mix messages you guys are putting out there. Which is it, participate in building one Nigeria or Biafra?
VOR

But those that call for Oduduwa Republic were invited VOR, were is the mixed message, were is the level playing field? Those that installed sharia were to head as were those that have been calling for AREWA Republic. Or are you ignorant of this calls from other parts of Nigeria buy some? Are you Ignorant of the fact that those that imposed Sharia on fellow citizens were invited? Why did you pick on only were some are calling for Biafra?

Auspicious
Sep 21, 2006, 12:00 AM
Ednut:

Its easy for us to sit here and do guess work about the inner workings of the government. We don't know for a fact if there was any officer of Igbo extraction billed to partake in whatever conference those officers were going for or not - before the unfortunate occurence of that accident.

We have very little information here. Who knows, there may be (or not) another scheduled flight to get the remaining officers..or there might have been Igbo officers on ground at the meeting venue already - a thousand and one possiblities exists in a situation where we have very little information on.

So it may not be we wise to make insinuation without any facts of the matter. I think this Nigeria of ours will be better for it if we do less of these kind of talk (cry alienation) everytime an issue comes up.

The other time I posted an issue about the election of a new chief for the NFA, you threw in an ethnic remark. Then again the other time Tsohon Soja spoke about the performance of those who represented Nigeria at the last FIBA games, you threw in a similar ethnic remark that disrespected his ethnic background. And here you are again doing the same very thing - feeding your audience with ethnic-colored opinion when you have very little fact about the composition of those who will attend that summit/meeting.

Must you see everything through that ethnic prism? Did you really think only those 18 Armed Forces personel were the only ones billed to attend that event? Come on!

And stop claiming that the meeting was going to take place in your land. Last time I checked, Cross-River state is not part of Igboland. If I am wrong, I stand to be corrected. Obudu Cattle Ranch, the actual venue of the meeting, is located in Cross River -Donald Duke's state.

Please spare your audience all these your unsubtantiated cry of marginalization. The Igbo are not alone in the struggle for relevance. What you cry about touches every Nigerian out there - Igbo o, Hausa o, Ijaw o, Yrouba o - all of them. The problem we have are the about the inequality between the rich and the poor. Sectionalist cries only serve to hold us back as a nation.

Ausipicious.

Ednut
Sep 21, 2006, 12:36 AM
Auspy,

I have just reviewed my last post and I do not see where I wrote anything about Igbo. I wrote about Eastern Region and Obudu Cattle Ranch in Eastern Region and it was build by Dr. Michael Okpara.

And I can almost bet you that most of my posts here never say anything about Ndigbo but about the East. If the north can proudly proclaim their regional alliances, I don't see why the east shouldn't.


We have very little information here. Who knows, there may be (or not) another scheduled flight to get the remaining officers..or there might have been Igbo officers on ground at the meeting venue already - a thousand and one possiblities exists in a situation where we have very little information on..Auspy.
If I may borrow from you (OR NOT). But we know already those that don't need supposition.

emj
Sep 21, 2006, 12:42 AM
No disrespect to the dead Generals but I don't see a single IGBO or Eastern Nigerian General listed among those guys that were going to reposition the future of the Nigerian military. Or did I miss it while speed-reading through all these articles, etc? All I see is nothing but Hausa and Yoruba names and it makes it not too easy for one to mourn with fellow Nigerians. My people were disrespected in the first place when the meeting was planned in their neck of the wood and they were totally excluded. And when they Igbo complain, they will be called all sorts of unprintable names.

EDNUTI my brother---this is still in bad tasteeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee:eek:You don't need an N8million naira glasses to see it.

Enough said, they will all be given full military burial tomorrow. And those who feel marginalized can rejoice to their hearts content, or redirect their thoughts to how to be relevant in Nigeria by backing a candidate from their zone........................

Akinyi
Sep 21, 2006, 10:23 PM
Plane Crash: Foreign currency, N0.2m recovered
-Villagers secure property
-Reps suspend sitting

SIMON IMOBO-TSWAM, Makurdi, ABIODUN ADELAJA, Abuja

A total of 8,000 euros (about N1.32 million) and N200,000 cash have been recovered from scene of the ill-fated Air Force Dornier 228 aircraft which crashed last Sunday killing 13 Senior Army officers and leaving five other persons seriously injured.

The disclosure came as inhabitants of Mbakunu Village in Kwande local government area of Benue State where the plane crashed, said they did not loot or remove any personal belongings of the victims.

The military aircraft which headed for Bebi Airstrip, Obanliku, Cross River State crashed on mount Ngokugh, Kwande, 18 nautical miles from destination.It had on board senior army officers who were billed for retreat at the Obudu Cattle Ranch.

But speaking to Daily Champion last Monday, one of the villagers Rev. Moses Akem said besides discovering the site and commencing immediate rescue operations that saved the lives of the survivors, about 8,000 euros and N200,000 were found at the scene of the incident.

He said the money was returned to a member of the military rescue team that visited the scene.
Rev. Akem, a pastor of the NKST Church, Hingir, on the outskirts of Kwande, said three major reasons restrained the villagers from looting the aircraft.

He gave the reasons as the desire to protect the village's good name, the kindred spirit that binds Tiv with the Nigerian Army and the vicarious grief of people who had experienced the pains of losing loved ones in plane disasters including Col. Joseph Akaahan, war-time Chief of Army Staff."We did not loot, we did not even think of it. Our mission there was to render help in whatever way we could. Save for one of them; the pilot who was dazed, other four survivors were unconscious and the remaining 13 were clearly dead - you could tell from their mangled bodies."So we brought axes, cutlasses, we axed (cut) the plane to release the trapped bodies inside. We cleared grasses in two places, laid the corpses in one, and the survivors in another. We then administered drips on them, washed and plastered their wounds. This was about six or seven hours before the first military rescue team would arrive" he explained.

Akinyi
Sep 21, 2006, 10:55 PM
How is our banking transactions that often one reads about persons carrying huge sums of money about?

200,000 Naira and 8000 Euros in the crashed aircraft---what is such monies intended for?

Maryam
Sep 21, 2006, 11:49 PM
May God give the families and friends [of the lost] the grace to bear the loss.

emj
Sep 22, 2006, 01:12 AM
Crash Victims Buried Amid Tears

Widows collapse at interment
From Josephine Lohor and Donald Andoor in Abuja, 09.22.2006

Thisday Newspapers
Emotions ran high yesterday in Abuja as the remains of the 13 military officers who died in last Sunday's air crash in Benue state were buried yesterday at the National Military Cemetery in a solemn ceremony attended by important dignatories from across the world.
There were tears all around from the immediate family members of the fallen heroes, some of who fainted as the caskets bearing the remains of the deceased officers were being taken for final interment.
Aisha, widow of Maj-Gen. Lemu and the wife of the late Wg. Cdr. Balogun collapsed and fainted as the caskets bearing the remains their husbands were being taken in the direction of the graves.
It took the intervention of medical experts who were keeping close watch over the immediate family members of the departed soldiers to revive them.
The wife of late Maj-Gen. Agbola who could not bear the site of seen the casket bearing the remains of her husband draped in national colours, also blacked out and it took several minutes before she was revived.
President Olusegun Obasanjo and Vice President Atiku Abubakar (both dressed in identical blue traditional attire) led other top government functionaries and African leaders (including Sierra Leonean President Tejjan Kabbah and former Zambian President Kenneth Kaunda) who witnessed the ceremony.
After a two-minute silence was observed in honour of the fallen officers, Obasanjo, Kabbah and Atiku led the service chiefs, Inspector-General of Police, Mr. Sunday Ehindero, and other dignitaries, including Ghana's Chief of Defence Staff, to lay wreaths at the burial site before internment.
In his speech at the occasion, Obasanjo described the deceased officers as "truly among the best that our nation has produced".
Obasanjo who acknowledged God's injunction that "we should mourn with those who mourn" however cautioned that the gathering "is to celebrate the life and service of our brothers departed and to celebrate what they had done and wish they could continue to do for the nation...But we should also reflect on why they were working and planning for the best of the country, the Armed Forces."
According to him, what matters is not how long one lives but how one performed his duties to God and humanity adding, "when the time comes, and nobody knows when that time will come that each and every one of us will be lifeless, what matters is how well we perform our roles on earth."
Extending his sympathy to the immediate families of the departed soldiers and Nigerians in general, Obasanjo said "when sorrows beclouds us, may God grant us the fortitude and strength to be able to stand firm with faith and hope to say it is well."
He also appealed to the immediate family members of the deceased and entire Nigerians that "we are not alone as we mourn, but from phone calls we receive from our friends in other countries including the UN Secretary General and the delegations from other countries which include Alhaji Teejan Kaabah and Kaunda we know they also share in our grief."
The departed heroes whose caskets were lowered in the graves, amidst three gun salutes at 1.07 PM at the National Military Cemetery were; Maj-Gen. J. O. Adesunloye, Maj. Gen. A. N. Bamali, Maj-Gen. S. O. Otubu, Maj-Gen. S. M. Lemu, Maj-Gen. P. M. Haruna, Maj-Gen. J. T. U. Amedu, Maj-Gen. B. Duniya, Maj-
Gen. J. O. Agbola, Brig-Gen. Y. J. Braimah, Brig-Gen. M. B. Bawa, Lt. Col. N. A. Mohammed, Wg. Cdr. E. O. Adekunle and Wg. Cdr. S. S. Balogun.
Those who attended the burial ceremony aside Obasanjo and Atiku included former military president, Gen. Ibrahim Babangida, Governors of Cross River, Ebonyi, Benue, Niger, Kogi, Kaduna, Zamfara, Plateau, Edo, Osun, Anambra, Brig-Gen. Buba Marwa (rtd), Minister of FCT, Mallam Nasir El-Rufai as well as Minister of Aviation, Professor Babalola Borishade among others.
Also in attendance were the president of Sierra Leone, Tejjan Kabbah, the Senate President, Chief Ken Nnamani, the Speaker of the House of Representatives, Alhaji Aminu Masari, the Chief Justice of Nigeria, Alfa Belgore and former Zambian president, Dr. Kenneth Kaunda.
There were also members of the National Assembly, service chiefs and military top brass from across the country, diplomats, as well as widows, children and other immediate family members of the deceased officers.
Meanwhile, the Chief of Defence Staff, General Martin Luther Agwai has assured the five survivors that they would be given the best medical attention available in the world.
The survivors who are currently receiving medical attention at the National Hospital Abuja are; Col. Nuhu Agboso, Col. Abraham Dosu, Lt-Col. Obinna Ajuwan, Emmenual Ejileka and Esther Ejuwa. He recalled that the Armed Forces had in compliance with the ongoing reforms in the country held a retreat in 2004 to brainstorm and to strategize on how best to reposition the military in line with the desire of the present administration.
He recalled how various decisions were taken to instill professionalism in the military during the retreat which was held at Obudu Resort, Cross River State and that it was in continuation of the retreat to review the progress made that the ill-fated journey was embarked upon.
Officiating Christian and Moslem chaplains stressed the inevitability of death and urged the living to ensure they lead good lives for which they would be remembered when they are dead.
They extolled the qualities and virtues of the dead officers, saying they gave their lives in the service of the nation. They offered prayers for the peaceful repose of the souls of the departed and for God to grant their loved ones the fortitude to bear the irreparable loss.

NVS/News Agencies
Sep 22, 2006, 09:00 AM
<p>By Gilbert da Costa, VOA Abuja </p>
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<p><em>A total of 13 senior Nigerian military officers who died in a plane crash over the weekend were given a national burial in the capital Thursday. </em></p>
<p>Thousands of Nigerians and several foreign delegations attended the solemn ceremony at the military cemetery in Abuja.</p>
<p>A total of 13 senior Nigerian military officers who died in a plane crash over the weekend were given a national burial in the capital Thursday. </p></em>
<p>Thousands of Nigerians and several foreign delegations attended the solemn ceremony at the military cemetery in Abuja.</p>
<p>President Olusegun Obasanjo was joined by his estranged deputy, Atiku Abubakar, as the two most powerful men in Nigeria put aside their differences to mourn the dead.</p>
<p>A somber-looking President Obasanjo, who lamented the loss of 10 army generals in a single peace-time incident, urged Nigerians to be comforted by the fact that the rest of the world mourns with them.</p>
<p>&quot;I am only going to say to the nation, the armed forces and to the families of our departed brothers, that we are not alone, judging by the phone calls I have received from world leaders, African leaders, including the secretary-general of the United Nations. Delegations have been sent to me by brother African leaders and the fact that we have President Kabbah [of Sierra Leone], former president Kaunda, is an indication that we are not alone in our hour of darkness,&quot; said President Obasanjo.</p>
<p>Nigeria's chief of defense staff, General Luther Agwai, said the 13 officers represented some of the best in the Nigerian military.</p>
<p>&quot;They were among the most productive, articulate and bravest in the Nigeria armed forces before their demise,&quot; he said.&nbsp; &quot;They were officers who had gone to various hot spots in the world and were tested in the rudiments of modern military battlefield.&nbsp; They came back alive and in one piece, only to lose the ultimate battle to death in a peaceful environment.&nbsp; The death of these gentlemen officers is a terrible blow to the military. They were officers who had received the very best of both military and civilian training.&quot;</p>
<p>The climax of the three-hour ceremony was the lowering of the caskets into the 13 graves, amid wailing by friends and relations of the dead officers.</p>
<p>The Nigerian air force plane, with 18 passengers, crashed in a remote village in central Nigeria. Five passengers survived the crash.</p>
<p>An official investigation has been launched.</p>
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<li><img style="width: 141px; height: 155px;" height="155" alt="" src="http://www.nigerianarmy.net/images/AN%20BAMALI.gif" width="141" align="left" /><font size="1">On the manifest released yesterday by the military authorities were :<br />
<strong>Maj-Gen. Nuhu Bamali (2 Div) (pictured Left)</strong><br />
Maj-Gen. J.O. Adesunloye (81 Div),<br />
Maj-Gen. J.O. Agboola,&nbsp;<br />
Major-General S.O. Otubu,&nbsp;<br />
Major-General S.M. Lemu,&nbsp;<br />
Major-General J.T.U Ahmedu,&nbsp;<br />
Major-General P.M. Haruna&nbsp;<br />
Major-General B. Duniya; <br />
Brigadier-Gen. Y.J. Braimah <br />
Brigadier-Gen.M.B. Bawa, <br />
Lt. Col. N.A. Mohammed&nbsp;<br />
The pilot whose name was not given. </font></li>
<li><font size="1">There are, however, six survivors. They are Col. A.L. Dusu, Col. O.C. Ajunwa, Col. N.I. Angbazo and three crewmembers, one of who is a female.</font></li></ul>
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<p><img alt="" src="http://www.nigerialinks.com/images/stories/dornier.jpg" align="left" border="1" />Twelve people died in the crash of a Nigerian Air Force jet, most of them senior military personnel, the country's finance minister said Monday.</p>
<p>Nigeria's president cut short a visit to Singapore and rushed back to his country following Sunday's crash, the cause of which remained under investigation.</p>
<p>The military transport aircraft was traveling from the capital, Abuja, to the southern town of Obudu when it went down in the southeast with a group of military officers on board.</p>
<p>Nigerian Air Force spokesman Emeka Ozoemena said Sunday that a search and rescue team had reached the site and found some survivors.</p>
<p>Finance Minister Nenadi E. Usman said 12 of 17 people were killed and most were senior military personnel.</p>
<p>Obasanjo was in Singapore for the annual meetings of the International Monetary Fund and World Bank.</p>
<p>&quot;He had to leave and return home immediately,&quot; Usman said before delivering a keynote speech on Obasanjo's behalf.</p>
<p>Nigeria is Africa's leading oil producer and the world's eight-biggest exporter, but is hobbled by a history of official corruption and bloody coups.</p>
<p>A World Bank report released at the annual general meeting in Singapore last week cited Nigeria among 26 countries at risk of failing and becoming hotbeds of terrorism and regional instability.</p>
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<p><strong><font size="+1">Generals, others feared dead in NAF plane crash</font></strong><br />
<em><font size="-1">By Tunji Oketunbi, Wole Shadare, Alex Olise (Lagos) Alifa Daniel, Emeka Anuforo (Abuja), Saxone Akhaine (Kaduna), Iyabo Lawal (Ibadan) and Simeon Nwakaudu (Makurdi)</font></em></p>
<p><strong><font size="+1">D</font></strong>EEP anguish enveloped the nation yesterday as a Dornier 228-212 belonging to the Nigerian Air Force (NAF) crashed into the hills of Ushongo Village in Benue State, 18 nautical miles from its destination, Obudu, Cross River State.</p>
<p>Eighteen top military officials, including Major-Generals with command positions and fourColonels and crew were said to be on board the light military aircraft, which was on its way to Bebi Airstrip, Obudu. It was not clear at press time if there were survivors. </p>
<p>Both the Nigerian Army, which reportedly had its top brass aboard the ill-fated aircraft and the Nigerian Air Force confirmed the accident.</p>
<p>The Director-General of the Nigerian Civil Aviation Authorities (NCAA), Dr Harold Demuren, told The Guardian that the Air Force would issue a statement on the mishap.</p>
<p>Colonel Abdul Usman, Deputy Director, Army Public Relations Department, confirmed that the General Officer Commanding (GOC) 2nd Mechanised Division, Ibadan, Gen. Nuhu Bamali, travelled on official assignment but that he was yet to get details of his whereabouts.</p>
<p>He said efforts were still on last night to contact military authorities on the incident.</p>
<p>Several calls to the GOC's phone failed as it was switched off. Similar calls to Col. Ayo Olaniyan, Director, Army Public Relations, did not go through as his line was also unavailable.</p>
<p>Confirming the crash, the Nigerian Air Force Tactical Command Public Relations Officer in Makurdi, Wing Commander Sadiq Shehu, said the aircraft took off from Benin and had Generals of the Nigerian Army on board.</p>
<p>Shehu said that the Air Force Tactical Air Command had already dispatched two helicopters on a rescue mission but refused to give details about survivors.</p>
<p>Hours after the crash, the Nigerian Air Force spokesman, Group Captain Emeka Ozoemena, who also declined to give details of casualties and survivors, confirmed that the crash occurred in Ushongo Village, 18 nautical miles from the Obudu Cattle Ranch.</p>
<p>&quot;The air plane has also been found and we are continuing with our search and rescue efforts to try and rescue some other people,&quot; Ozoemena said on phone yesterday evening.</p>
<p>The military officers in the crashed plane, he said, were on their way to a retreat in Obudu Ranch. </p>
<p>Special Assistant to Benue State Governor on Media, Mrs. Beckie Orpin, also confirmed the crash at Government House, Makurdi. The state governor, George Akume, immediately led the state's Security Council to Koti-Yough and Ikyogen villages, where policemen from Vandeikya and Obudu divisions were already assisting in rescue operations. </p>
<p>The Chief of Army Staff, Lt.-Gen. Andrew Azzazi and the Chief of Air Staff, AVM Paul Dike, arrived in Calabar aboard NAF 917 around 6.00 p.m. yesterday for an onward journey to the scene of the accident.</p>
<p>They were received by the Cross River State Deputy Governor, Dr. Walter Eneji, and other government officials.</p>
<p>A resident of the area, in a telephone interview, told reporters that villagers claimed they saw the aircraft dangling in the air, having clearly lost control.</p>
<p>According to him, the aircraft crashed into the hills a few minutes after noon. He said that the villagers because of the loud bang initially refused to get close to the crash site, but later mobilised their vigilance personnel to the area.</p>
<p>The resident quoted the villagers as declaring that the nature of damage to the aircraft indicated that there were no survivors.</p>
<p>The Guardian learnt that the villagers were leaving the crash area in droves as military personnel and police officers arrived in their numbers.</p>
<p>The story of the crash has shocked people in the state capital as many were seen in groups, discussing the unfortunate accident. Several conflicting stories made the rounds as to where the crash actually took place. </p>
<p>Air Force authorities refused to give details, insisting that a press statement would be issued after the completion of assessment at the crash site.</p>
<p>Eneji could not ascertain number of casualties or survivors but said &quot; the search by the rescue team is on and until they come we can't say anything. But we are sad with the incident.&quot;</p>
<p>The Chief Press Secretary to the Cross River State Governor, Mr Joseph Ushigiale, said: &quot;The 18 seater-military aircraft is believed to have crashed around Vandeikya in Benue State about 18 nautical miles from Bebi airstrip. Although details of survivors are still hazy, but search and rescue helicopters have been despatched to the scene believed to be a difficult terrain.&quot;</p>
<p>Dr. Rowland Ndomaegba of the University of Calabar Teaching Hospital said medical personnel were on ground both at the scene and in Calabar to handle the situation.</p>
<p>The Director of Information of the Defence Headquarters, Felix Chukwuma, a Brigadier-General, yesterday told The Guardian on phone that the plane was taking the officers to the Obudu Ranch for the Chief of Staff Retreat when the incident happened.</p>
<p>His words: &quot;There was an air crash today (yesterday) involving a light military aircraft with 17 military officers on board. Though details are still sketchy, we believe there are survivors.&quot; The 18th person is believed to be a crew member.</p>
<p>The Nigerian Emergency Management Agency (NEMA) was said to have despatched its helicopter to the scene to begin a search and rescue operation.</p>
<p>A small German twin turboprop Short Take Off and Landing (STOL) utility aircraft, the Dornier Do 228 was manufactured by Dornier GmbH (later DASA Dornier, Fairchild-Dornier) from 1981 to 1998. In 1998, the production line was stopped for better development of the successor Dornier 328.</p>
<p>Hindustan Aeronautics of India in 1983 bought a production licence and manufactures the 228 to this day. Approximately 270, the Do 228 planes were built at Oberpfaffenhofen, Germany and Kanpur, India. About 195 are believed to be still in service worldwide. No fewer than 22 of the aircraft type have been flying in the Nigerian airspace for close to two decades.</p>
<p>Dornier 228 aircraft is not a new comer in the Nigerian aviation industry. Among the operators in Nigeria are DANA (Dornier Aviation Nigeria AIEP), which has 12, the Nigerian Air Force (NAF) with eight, the Nigerian National Petroleum Corporation (NNPC) and the Power Holding Company of Nigeria (PHCN) both with one each. </p>
<p>The conditions of all these aircraft cannot be ascertained for now as several of them are currently unserviceable.</p>
<p>The Kaduna State-based DANA Aviation company, which sold the aircraft to the NAF, also maintains the Dornier fleet for it.</p>
<p>The aircraft type has recorded worldwide 22 hull-loss accidents with a total of 109 fatalities. Other occurrences include one with a total of three fatalities, one unfiled occurrence with no fatalities, one hijacking with no fatalities and a selection three incidents with no fatalities. </p>
<p>On September 12, 1997 a NAF Dornier 228-212 in Nguru, Borno State, ran into a ditch during take off. The pilot lost control and the plane ran into a tree. Although there were eight passengers and two crew members on board, there was no fatality.</p>
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<p>A Nigerian air force Dornier 228 aircraft with 17 people, including senior military officers, on board crashed in a yet unknown part of Nigeria, defense spokesman Felix Chukwuma said Sept 17. </p>
<p>Preliminary reports indicate that there were some survivors in the flight from Abuja to the Obudu Cattle Ranch in the southeastern state of Cross River where the officials were to participate in a series of meetings at a hotel and conference center. <br />
</p><br><br><a target="_blank" href=http://www.nigeriavillagesquare.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=3883><b>..Read the full article</b></a><br>

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Sep 22, 2006, 09:00 AM
<p>By Gilbert da Costa, VOA Abuja </p>
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<p><em>A total of 13 senior Nigerian military officers who died in a plane crash over the weekend were given a national burial in the capital Thursday. </em></p>
<p>Thousands of Nigerians and several foreign delegations attended the solemn ceremony at the military cemetery in Abuja.</p>
<p>A total of 13 senior Nigerian military officers who died in a plane crash over the weekend were given a national burial in the capital Thursday. </p></em>
<p>Thousands of Nigerians and several foreign delegations attended the solemn ceremony at the military cemetery in Abuja.</p>
<p>President Olusegun Obasanjo was joined by his estranged deputy, Atiku Abubakar, as the two most powerful men in Nigeria put aside their differences to mourn the dead.</p>
<p>A somber-looking President Obasanjo, who lamented the loss of 10 army generals in a single peace-time incident, urged Nigerians to be comforted by the fact that the rest of the world mourns with them.</p>
<p>&quot;I am only going to say to the nation, the armed forces and to the families of our departed brothers, that we are not alone, judging by the phone calls I have received from world leaders, African leaders, including the secretary-general of the United Nations. Delegations have been sent to me by brother African leaders and the fact that we have President Kabbah [of Sierra Leone], former president Kaunda, is an indication that we are not alone in our hour of darkness,&quot; said President Obasanjo.</p>
<p>Nigeria's chief of defense staff, General Luther Agwai, said the 13 officers represented some of the best in the Nigerian military.</p>
<p>&quot;They were among the most productive, articulate and bravest in the Nigeria armed forces before their demise,&quot; he said.&nbsp; &quot;They were officers who had gone to various hot spots in the world and were tested in the rudiments of modern military battlefield.&nbsp; They came back alive and in one piece, only to lose the ultimate battle to death in a peaceful environment.&nbsp; The death of these gentlemen officers is a terrible blow to the military. They were officers who had received the very best of both military and civilian training.&quot;</p>
<p>The climax of the three-hour ceremony was the lowering of the caskets into the 13 graves, amid wailing by friends and relations of the dead officers.</p>
<p>The Nigerian air force plane, with 18 passengers, crashed in a remote village in central Nigeria. Five passengers survived the crash.</p>
<p>An official investigation has been launched.</p>
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<li><img style="width: 141px; height: 155px;" height="155" alt="" src="http://www.nigerianarmy.net/images/AN%20BAMALI.gif" width="141" align="left" /><font size="1">On the manifest released yesterday by the military authorities were :<br />
<strong>Maj-Gen. Nuhu Bamali (2 Div) (pictured Left)</strong><br />
Maj-Gen. J.O. Adesunloye (81 Div),<br />
Maj-Gen. J.O. Agboola,&nbsp;<br />
Major-General S.O. Otubu,&nbsp;<br />
Major-General S.M. Lemu,&nbsp;<br />
Major-General J.T.U Ahmedu,&nbsp;<br />
Major-General P.M. Haruna&nbsp;<br />
Major-General B. Duniya; <br />
Brigadier-Gen. Y.J. Braimah <br />
Brigadier-Gen.M.B. Bawa, <br />
Lt. Col. N.A. Mohammed&nbsp;<br />
The pilot whose name was not given. </font></li>
<li><font size="1">There are, however, six survivors. They are Col. A.L. Dusu, Col. O.C. Ajunwa, Col. N.I. Angbazo and three crewmembers, one of who is a female.</font></li></ul>
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<p><img alt="" src="http://www.nigerialinks.com/images/stories/dornier.jpg" align="left" border="1" />Twelve people died in the crash of a Nigerian Air Force jet, most of them senior military personnel, the country's finance minister said Monday.</p>
<p>Nigeria's president cut short a visit to Singapore and rushed back to his country following Sunday's crash, the cause of which remained under investigation.</p>
<p>The military transport aircraft was traveling from the capital, Abuja, to the southern town of Obudu when it went down in the southeast with a group of military officers on board.</p>
<p>Nigerian Air Force spokesman Emeka Ozoemena said Sunday that a search and rescue team had reached the site and found some survivors.</p>
<p>Finance Minister Nenadi E. Usman said 12 of 17 people were killed and most were senior military personnel.</p>
<p>Obasanjo was in Singapore for the annual meetings of the International Monetary Fund and World Bank.</p>
<p>&quot;He had to leave and return home immediately,&quot; Usman said before delivering a keynote speech on Obasanjo's behalf.</p>
<p>Nigeria is Africa's leading oil producer and the world's eight-biggest exporter, but is hobbled by a history of official corruption and bloody coups.</p>
<p>A World Bank report released at the annual general meeting in Singapore last week cited Nigeria among 26 countries at risk of failing and becoming hotbeds of terrorism and regional instability.</p>
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<p><strong><font size="+1">Generals, others feared dead in NAF plane crash</font></strong><br />
<em><font size="-1">By Tunji Oketunbi, Wole Shadare, Alex Olise (Lagos) Alifa Daniel, Emeka Anuforo (Abuja), Saxone Akhaine (Kaduna), Iyabo Lawal (Ibadan) and Simeon Nwakaudu (Makurdi)</font></em></p>
<p><strong><font size="+1">D</font></strong>EEP anguish enveloped the nation yesterday as a Dornier 228-212 belonging to the Nigerian Air Force (NAF) crashed into the hills of Ushongo Village in Benue State, 18 nautical miles from its destination, Obudu, Cross River State.</p>
<p>Eighteen top military officials, including Major-Generals with command positions and fourColonels and crew were said to be on board the light military aircraft, which was on its way to Bebi Airstrip, Obudu. It was not clear at press time if there were survivors. </p>
<p>Both the Nigerian Army, which reportedly had its top brass aboard the ill-fated aircraft and the Nigerian Air Force confirmed the accident.</p>
<p>The Director-General of the Nigerian Civil Aviation Authorities (NCAA), Dr Harold Demuren, told The Guardian that the Air Force would issue a statement on the mishap.</p>
<p>Colonel Abdul Usman, Deputy Director, Army Public Relations Department, confirmed that the General Officer Commanding (GOC) 2nd Mechanised Division, Ibadan, Gen. Nuhu Bamali, travelled on official assignment but that he was yet to get details of his whereabouts.</p>
<p>He said efforts were still on last night to contact military authorities on the incident.</p>
<p>Several calls to the GOC's phone failed as it was switched off. Similar calls to Col. Ayo Olaniyan, Director, Army Public Relations, did not go through as his line was also unavailable.</p>
<p>Confirming the crash, the Nigerian Air Force Tactical Command Public Relations Officer in Makurdi, Wing Commander Sadiq Shehu, said the aircraft took off from Benin and had Generals of the Nigerian Army on board.</p>
<p>Shehu said that the Air Force Tactical Air Command had already dispatched two helicopters on a rescue mission but refused to give details about survivors.</p>
<p>Hours after the crash, the Nigerian Air Force spokesman, Group Captain Emeka Ozoemena, who also declined to give details of casualties and survivors, confirmed that the crash occurred in Ushongo Village, 18 nautical miles from the Obudu Cattle Ranch.</p>
<p>&quot;The air plane has also been found and we are continuing with our search and rescue efforts to try and rescue some other people,&quot; Ozoemena said on phone yesterday evening.</p>
<p>The military officers in the crashed plane, he said, were on their way to a retreat in Obudu Ranch. </p>
<p>Special Assistant to Benue State Governor on Media, Mrs. Beckie Orpin, also confirmed the crash at Government House, Makurdi. The state governor, George Akume, immediately led the state's Security Council to Koti-Yough and Ikyogen villages, where policemen from Vandeikya and Obudu divisions were already assisting in rescue operations. </p>
<p>The Chief of Army Staff, Lt.-Gen. Andrew Azzazi and the Chief of Air Staff, AVM Paul Dike, arrived in Calabar aboard NAF 917 around 6.00 p.m. yesterday for an onward journey to the scene of the accident.</p>
<p>They were received by the Cross River State Deputy Governor, Dr. Walter Eneji, and other government officials.</p>
<p>A resident of the area, in a telephone interview, told reporters that villagers claimed they saw the aircraft dangling in the air, having clearly lost control.</p>
<p>According to him, the aircraft crashed into the hills a few minutes after noon. He said that the villagers because of the loud bang initially refused to get close to the crash site, but later mobilised their vigilance personnel to the area.</p>
<p>The resident quoted the villagers as declaring that the nature of damage to the aircraft indicated that there were no survivors.</p>
<p>The Guardian learnt that the villagers were leaving the crash area in droves as military personnel and police officers arrived in their numbers.</p>
<p>The story of the crash has shocked people in the state capital as many were seen in groups, discussing the unfortunate accident. Several conflicting stories made the rounds as to where the crash actually took place. </p>
<p>Air Force authorities refused to give details, insisting that a press statement would be issued after the completion of assessment at the crash site.</p>
<p>Eneji could not ascertain number of casualties or survivors but said &quot; the search by the rescue team is on and until they come we can't say anything. But we are sad with the incident.&quot;</p>
<p>The Chief Press Secretary to the Cross River State Governor, Mr Joseph Ushigiale, said: &quot;The 18 seater-military aircraft is believed to have crashed around Vandeikya in Benue State about 18 nautical miles from Bebi airstrip. Although details of survivors are still hazy, but search and rescue helicopters have been despatched to the scene believed to be a difficult terrain.&quot;</p>
<p>Dr. Rowland Ndomaegba of the University of Calabar Teaching Hospital said medical personnel were on ground both at the scene and in Calabar to handle the situation.</p>
<p>The Director of Information of the Defence Headquarters, Felix Chukwuma, a Brigadier-General, yesterday told The Guardian on phone that the plane was taking the officers to the Obudu Ranch for the Chief of Staff Retreat when the incident happened.</p>
<p>His words: &quot;There was an air crash today (yesterday) involving a light military aircraft with 17 military officers on board. Though details are still sketchy, we believe there are survivors.&quot; The 18th person is believed to be a crew member.</p>
<p>The Nigerian Emergency Management Agency (NEMA) was said to have despatched its helicopter to the scene to begin a search and rescue operation.</p>
<p>A small German twin turboprop Short Take Off and Landing (STOL) utility aircraft, the Dornier Do 228 was manufactured by Dornier GmbH (later DASA Dornier, Fairchild-Dornier) from 1981 to 1998. In 1998, the production line was stopped for better development of the successor Dornier 328.</p>
<p>Hindustan Aeronautics of India in 1983 bought a production licence and manufactures the 228 to this day. Approximately 270, the Do 228 planes were built at Oberpfaffenhofen, Germany and Kanpur, India. About 195 are believed to be still in service worldwide. No fewer than 22 of the aircraft type have been flying in the Nigerian airspace for close to two decades.</p>
<p>Dornier 228 aircraft is not a new comer in the Nigerian aviation industry. Among the operators in Nigeria are DANA (Dornier Aviation Nigeria AIEP), which has 12, the Nigerian Air Force (NAF) with eight, the Nigerian National Petroleum Corporation (NNPC) and the Power Holding Company of Nigeria (PHCN) both with one each. </p>
<p>The conditions of all these aircraft cannot be ascertained for now as several of them are currently unserviceable.</p>
<p>The Kaduna State-based DANA Aviation company, which sold the aircraft to the NAF, also maintains the Dornier fleet for it.</p>
<p>The aircraft type has recorded worldwide 22 hull-loss accidents with a total of 109 fatalities. Other occurrences include one with a total of three fatalities, one unfiled occurrence with no fatalities, one hijacking with no fatalities and a selection three incidents with no fatalities. </p>
<p>On September 12, 1997 a NAF Dornier 228-212 in Nguru, Borno State, ran into a ditch during take off. The pilot lost control and the plane ran into a tree. Although there were eight passengers and two crew members on board, there was no fatality.</p>
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<p>A Nigerian air force Dornier 228 aircraft with 17 people, including senior military officers, on board crashed in a yet unknown part of Nigeria, defense spokesman Felix Chukwuma said Sept 17. </p>
<p>Preliminary reports indicate that there were some survivors in the flight from Abuja to the Obudu Cattle Ranch in the southeastern state of Cross River where the officials were to participate in a series of meetings at a hotel and conference center. <br />
</p><br><br><a target="_blank" href=http://www.nigeriavillagesquare.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=3883><b>..Read the full article</b></a><br>

gwobezentashi
Sep 22, 2006, 01:09 PM
@ emj
Lt-Col. Obinna Ajuwan, Emmenual Ejileka and Esther Ejuwa are the names of some of the survivors from your above post. These sound like "Eastern" names to me and considering that the host of the event was Gen Azazi, the Chief of Army and also an "easterner", who missed that flight, shall we start putting 2+2 to come up with a conjecture that the "Easterners" have tried to eliminate the rest? Na wa o. It seems ever only about me, me, me, mine, mine, mine and they they they, them, them, them not us, us, us or ours, ours, ours.

Seems like even in death, some still want federal character.

Aluta!


Gwobezentashi

abbey
Sep 22, 2006, 01:51 PM
akinyi we are talking about people who lost their life here not about money. i pray that ,may the good lord condole the families of the victims

tengallons
Sep 22, 2006, 01:59 PM
May their souls rest in perfect peace.

The ethnic twist on this matter is unfortunate. looking at the list, one could say "I couldn't see any Itsekiri, Urhobo, Isoko, Izon, Kalabari etc name on the list..." So, what does that tell us? Abi na only three groups dey Nigeria? The sooner we get rid of the knee-jerk ethnic optic, the better. Let's respectfully mourn those who have left us and pray that it doesn't happen again.

cdimkpa
Sep 22, 2006, 02:47 PM
Plane Crash: Foreign currency, N0.2m recovered
-Villagers secure property
-Reps suspend sitting

SIMON IMOBO-TSWAM, Makurdi, ABIODUN ADELAJA, Abuja

A total of 8,000 euros (about N1.32 million) and N200,000 cash have been recovered from scene of the ill-fated Air Force Dornier 228 aircraft which crashed last Sunday killing 13 Senior Army officers and leaving five other persons seriously injured.

The disclosure came as inhabitants of Mbakunu Village in Kwande local government area of Benue State where the plane crashed, said they did not loot or remove any personal belongings of the victims.


But speaking to Daily Champion last Monday, one of the villagers Rev. Moses Akem said besides discovering the site and commencing immediate rescue operations that saved the lives of the survivors, about 8,000 euros and N200,000 were found at the scene of the incident.
He said the money was returned to a member of the military rescue team that visited the scene.
Rev. Akem, a pastor of the NKST Church, Hingir, on the outskirts of Kwande, said three major reasons restrained the villagers from looting the aircraft.

He gave the reasons as the desire to protect the village's good name, the kindred spirit that binds Tiv with the Nigerian Army and the vicarious grief of people who had experienced the pains of losing loved ones in plane disasters including Col. Joseph Akaahan, war-time Chief of Army Staff."We did not loot, we did not even think of it. Our mission there was to render help in whatever way we could. Save for one of them; the pilot who was dazed, other four survivors were unconscious and the remaining 13 were clearly dead - you could tell from their mangled bodies."So we brought axes, cutlasses, we axed (cut) the plane to release the trapped bodies inside. We cleared grasses in two places, laid the corpses in one, and the survivors in another. We then administered drips on them, washed and plastered their wounds. This was about six or seven hours before the first military rescue team would arrive" he explained.

On whether they were tempted to loot, the cleric said: "As I told you, we did not think of it. The last time this kind of thing happened, we learnt the villagers ransacked the plane and robbed the dead. That kind of thing is an abomination in Tivland. And we did not want people to remember our village for that kind of thing."Secondly, Tiv people and the Nigeria Army have come a long way. In every Tiv village or even compound you enter, there is a serving soldier or ex-soldier. So for the average Tivman, the soldier man is a brother or friend, at least on face value."And thirdly, we too have lost illustrious people in plane crashes. One of them was Col. Joseph Akaahan, Gen. Yakubu Gowon's first Chief of Army Staff. His ancestral home is not far from here. So when this kind of thing happened, it brought back the sad memories. No, we could not have looted".

It would be recalled that last year when a Belview carrier crashed in Lisa Village, Ogun State, the villagers had gone on a looting spree, prompting the arrest of some villagers including the traditional ruler of Lisa community.
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Na waoh! For the emboldened paragraph directly above

One can only add here that whereas the Tiv safeguarded the property of the dead and dying, our so-called 'most Shophisticated', others (tribe withheld) looted the property of the dead in their backyard. What an Irony. 'Sophisticated' Akinyi has unsmartly deleted this part from his post, but the full details are commonplace in other Naija websites.

Son of the Delta
Sep 22, 2006, 03:02 PM
One thing Nigeria should know is that God is watching them.What was the meeting all about.
Was the meeting not a plan on how to destroy the Niger Delta.God will destroy those that wish the Niger Delta death.The people who facilitated the release of the shell worker were killed cold bloodedly by the Nigerian army.Today they have tasted their own drink.It is God that would fight this devilish country Nigeria for the long suffering people of the Niger Delta.God would fight Nigeria and those that work with them to cause evil in the Niger delta.
Local or foreign God will fight them.

Auspicious
Sep 22, 2006, 03:45 PM
One thing Nigeria should know is that God is watching them.What was the meeting all about.
Was the meeting not a plan on how to destroy the Niger Delta.God will destroy those that wish the Niger Delta death.The people who facilitated the release of the shell worker were killed cold bloodedly by the Nigerian army.Today they have tasted their own drink.It is God that would fight this devilish country Nigeria for the long suffering people of the Niger Delta.God would fight Nigeria and those that work with them to cause evil in the Niger delta.
Local or foreign God will fight them.
Word of advise: Be careful with the reckless and baseless pronouncements you make in the name of your God.

Auspicious.

docokwy
Sep 22, 2006, 03:57 PM
One thing Nigeria should know is that God is watching them.What was the meeting all about.
Was the meeting not a plan on how to destroy the Niger Delta.God will destroy those that wish the Niger Delta death.The people who facilitated the release of the shell worker were killed cold bloodedly by the Nigerian army.Today they have tasted their own drink.It is God that would fight this devilish country Nigeria for the long suffering people of the Niger Delta.God would fight Nigeria and those that work with them to cause evil in the Niger delta.
Local or foreign God will fight them.

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Perhaps you do not know, but four of the dead generals were from Niger Delta.

obasanjo
Sep 22, 2006, 04:04 PM
"I am only going to say to the nation, the armed forces and to the families of our departed brothers, that we are not alone, judging by the phone calls I have received from world leaders, African leaders, including the secretary-general of the United Nations. Delegations have been sent to me by brother African leaders and the fact that we have President Kabbah [of Sierra Leone], former president Kaunda, is an indication that we are not alone in our hour of darkness," said President Obasanjo."


Our dear Obj Pr' ing his self imposed the "International Statesman" status....

May their souls rest in peace..they were Ours....

denker
Sep 22, 2006, 05:22 PM
@Ednut, your line of worldview embedded in the context of the spectrum of the entire conceptualization of your thought and argument pertaining to the event of the plane crash and the alleged agenda of the minutes of the meeting is not well thought out, i'm worried and i must tell you that i'm not happy at all....!

next time, i want to see depth of contemplative thoughts when such issues of immense pains and losts come up again on this board...!

may the lost souls find everlasting peace in the presence of our lord and god and the bereaved families take my deep consolation for your losts. may the almighty god gives you the fortress of hearts and the strenghts to bear the lost of the loved ones, amen!

i feel the pain, the pain is in me, it's in me cos the parts that have departed are parts of me...!

Son of the Delta
Sep 22, 2006, 05:23 PM
If you read what I said well.The wrath of God is also on the sabotuers amongst us.Their being from the Niger Delta does not automatically absolve them from the crime against the Niger Delta.The army as an institution is at war with justice and any one that sides with injustice wherever you are from would only draw the wrath of God.I think this is a clear sign that people should stand against evil everywhere.What affects the Ijaw man for instance affect many others in one way or the other.

Tundeaka
Sep 22, 2006, 08:52 PM
Those who know Ednut (Tunde) should not be surprised about the chip on his shoulders. He is one of the die-hard Biafran boys who never see anything good about Nigeria.

In death, Federal Character? Wow, that is the extent of patriotism in Nigeria!

A clear shame to know that death of a human being cannot be mourned without ethnic sentiments. I take solace in the fact that individuals as Ednut and other fake names in cyberspace are in the minority.

Steve
Sep 22, 2006, 10:02 PM
Most times, one can only wonder about the types of people who visit and partake in the various discussions on this site? This is in terms of age, education and background.

Usually, if the comments are not pathetically silly, they will be gross at the level they take ethnic sentiments, political differences and infantile emotional outburts into even very serious issues of national importance.

Is this site, among other important things, not meant for brainstorming over the many problems confronting our nation? But how much of the space is devoted to solving those problems? So far, a lot of air space, energy, time and sweats is expended over unneceassry bickerings. This site indeed can easily pass for a kindergatten class.

Yet, alll these could be easily overlooked since it's been said over and over that the NVS is a mini-Nigeria where everything is based on tongues and tribes. But for some individuals to reduce the deaths of fellow Nigerians to a cry-cry over ethnic issues, money palaver and other mundane stuffs (as can be seen in most of the comments above) is not only unfair but callous, immature and grossly stupid!!

For God's sake, is there no issue that can attract only simple, commonsensical and humane comments?

EFCCite
Sep 22, 2006, 10:29 PM
Just read that Kaunda was at the state funeral of our fallen generals. Thankful for his condolences. However, I am very concerned at his ever presence in Nigeria. I saw him at a public health summit in Abuja last May. In August, he was in Yenogoa where he played his guitar (like he did in Abuja) at a Bayelsa State Govtervnment gig. Now he is at this funeral. I am sure he know there is EGUNJE in NAIJA. One would think that he spends more time in Zambia since the have more health and broader socio-economic woes.

DeepThought
Sep 23, 2006, 04:24 AM
Oghre
Villager
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Its a shame that IBB, Buhari, Sani Yerima, Atiku, AA Abubakar, some Northern emirs, fundamentalist jihadist northern leaders and the likes of Datti Ahmed and co were not board. Half of our problems as a nation would have been solved overnight... what a shame!

May the souls of those who died rest in peace if at all they did not contribute in one way or the other to the woes of Nigeria.
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Oghre,
Thank you for your sensible statement. The only flaw i see in it is that you excluded the non Nothern devils parading as humans in Nigeria. Where are the Alamishagbas, Adedibus, Ubas, e.t.c?

There we go again as Nigerians. Crying and weeping because it is "unNigerian" to talk ill of the dead, not so? Why this uncritical , indiscriminate outpouring of grief?. By doing this, do we not encourage evil men to continue in their evil? Only in Nigeria do men who spend all their living moments doing nothing but evil which result in untold suffering to their own people become saints overnight by virtue of no other reason than death. Why? Because death has the magical powers of making saints out of devils I suppose?.

If I am evil, does my dying make me pure? And why should anyone then mourn my passing rather than rejoicing or being indifferent? What is the contribution to the history of Nigeria by the Nigerian Army and what effect has that colonial army of occupation and pillage had on Nigeria and its captives disdainfully refered to as "bloody civilians" who are treated worse than dogs by the thugs in uniform?

May the souls of only those, who do not contribute to the suffering of their fellows rest in peace . As for the rest, anyone who contributes to the suffering of our people them ( assuming they have souls may they forever rot in hell!!!!).NONSENSE

My only regret is that IBB, OBJ, ATIKU and the rest of the animalistic b****ds were not on the plane.

Akinyi
Sep 23, 2006, 10:23 AM
Most times, one can only wonder about the types of people who visit and partake in the various discussions on this site? This is in terms of age, education and background.

Usually, if the comments are not pathetically silly, they will be gross at the level they take ethnic sentiments, political differences and infantile emotional outburts into even very serious issues of national importance.

Is this site, among other important things, not meant for brainstorming over the many problems confronting our nation? But how much of the space is devoted to solving those problems? So far, a lot of air space, energy, time and sweats is expended over unneceassry bickerings. This site indeed can easily pass for a kindergatten class.

Yet, alll these could be easily overlooked since it's been said over and over that the NVS is a mini-Nigeria where everything is based on tongues and tribes. But for some individuals to reduce the deaths of fellow Nigerians to a cry-cry over ethnic issues, money palaver and other mundane stuffs (as can be seen in most of the comments above) is not only unfair but callous, immature and grossly stupid!!

For God's sake, is there no issue that can attract only simple, commonsensical and humane comments?







Mr Steve, in your wisdom why don't you doctor and tailor the commentators on how you want them to reason on issues. You could force them to reason just like you.

Steve
Sep 23, 2006, 11:40 PM
Akinyi, you wrote that:

"Mr Steve, in your wisdom....."
At least you could ascribe some wisdom to me....we thank God for little mercies. But, heaven's sake, why would your charity not begin at home?

"why don't you doctor and tailor the commentators on how you want them to reason on issues. You could force them to reason just like you."

Whew! What the hell did you write there? Did you make sense even to yourself? "doctor and tailor the commentators....." No wonder the best form of reasoning you could generate and demonstrate in your first comment to this news report was all about money. Some fellow Nigerians just lost their lives in a ghastly plane crash-----with wives, children, families, relations and friends thrown into mourning and anguish---and all you could think about was some money in the plane! Where is your own wisdom?

Acting Major Benbella
Sep 23, 2006, 11:54 PM
Recently, some writers have concentrated their minds on finding out why nations choose to die as opposed to doing those things that sustain their existence. Among some of the writers, Jared Diamond easily comes to mind. Jared Diamond, I believe, was before his fame, an obscure university professor who toiled away in the geography department of his university. From him we learnt that the foolish Greenlanders disappeared because of their unwillingness to eat fish. To raise cattle for beef a favorite diet, they denuded their land of forests and grasses and while they were dying off their next door neighbor, the Innuits who had no problem with eating fish survived. Among the Aztecs, we found a similar drive for collective annihilation occasioned by a profound desire to provide human sacrifices to their gods.

All of these assumptions are of course elementary. Who can really say why the Greenlanders or the Aztecs did what they did or believed in the ideas they practiced, and which ultimately brought about their ruin. Except that there is incontrovertible proof that suicide is far easier on the national or collective scale than it is at the individual level.

The death of a people or a culture or a country does not occur when every person that makes up that culture or country cease to live rather their death is occasioned by the choices that their leaders make - meaning that the personal attributes of the leadership - are essentially the things that bring about the ruin and the tragedy of a people.

The crash of the Nigeria Airforce Dornier aircraft in which 13 high ranking officers of the Nigerian army and airforce perished should be seen beyond the accident itself as bad as that was but rather I call on readers to focus their gaze on the rot within the Nigerian military that made this avoidable tragedy possible.

First, no reasonable country pack its top leadership - be they from the military or civil bureaucracy into one plane as any mishap will translate into a collosal loss. But such simple act of precaution appears to be beyond the capacity of Nigeria. It is especially troubling to observe such carelessness by a country that had in the past suffered the similar consequence of losing a significant portion of its middle level officer corp in another air crash some years ago. There was also the example of the plane crash that killed the whole graduating class of Egyptian military officers who had come to the US for enhanced military training. So there exist examples from which responsible and serious mined nations can draw ample lessons from.

Why didn't Nigeria?

The Nigerian airforce after it was ravaged by the actions of Babaginda and Abacha following the Gideon Orkar coup has been on a respirator. It lacked neither the planes to train its pilots or the equipments to monitor aircraft activities within its airspace. It may come as a surprise for some readers to know that if Nigeria were to be attacked by any country today, including African ones such as Cameroun or Sudan or Libya, that their country does not have a single fighter plane to scramble to meet the opposition. It has a few gunship helicopters but these will never be a match for a fighter plane.

Since the inception of this administration in 1999, the National Assembly which has shown a better grasp of the changing international community and the resultant resort to violence that nations are more inclined to follow than in the past have voted for significant budgetary allocations to the ministry of defense in feach fiscal year since 1999 but the president, who believes that only he knows what is good for the nation, has sat on the appropriations meant for defense. Today, the Nigerian army and its sister branches - the navy and airforce remain hollowed. It has no means to successfully fight off an external aggression nor has it shown that it has the materiel resources or training to quell internal disharmonies of the sort we find in the Niger-Delta.

All of these is occuring at a time when Nigeria like all the oil exporting countries has experienced almost three years of unprecendented growth in their external revenue. It is even more alarming considering that Nigeria has staked for itself a pronounced role in international affairs but has not shown the required willingness to match its interests, ambition and rhetoric with a robust and well-equipped and trained military. We are currently involved in Darfur as part of the AU peacekeeping operations and our contunued involvement there against the wishes of the Sudanese government will soon bring down on Nigeria the wrath of the Arab states including Al-Queda who are opposed to any international or regional sponsored plan to stop the genocide of Sudan's African population. Despite the possibility of hostility and hostile actions from Sudan and any one of the Arab countries, Nigeria acts as if it does not require a strong military to fend off such hostility when it does come or be sufficiently prepared and armed that any country contemplating such hostility will think of the consequences before ambarking on it.

This blindness to the realities of international affairs and diplomacy by our so-called leaders can also be ascertained in how we have willy-nelly approached the important area of the Gulf of Guinea as an intrinsic part of our national security. The US navy is all about set to establishing what they have referred to as an "unsinkable aircraft carrier" in Sao Tome and Principe for the simple reason that Nigeria has refused to rise up to tjhe task of equipping and training its navy to police that body of water. In the presence of the vacuum thus created the US is in the process of filling that vacuum. These irresponsibility on the part of our leaders is far terrible when the very notion of a US naval presence right close to Nigeria will circumscribe the ability of Nigeria to act independently in defense of national interest for the next 50 years or to fully rise to becoming a regional power.

Generally, when Nigerians are told of the necessity of building a robust and well-equipped military their nornmal response is to decry any such investments as a waste. If truth be told it can be posited that such adverseness to the concept of a strong Nigerian military opens the floodgates of citizens complaint and abuses at the hands of the military. But the very opposite is true. That the Nigerian military has been the gang it is for the simple reason that the political and military leadership of Nigeria has not shown interest in seeing their military be more than an armed infantry gang. With no new or sophisticated equipments to master the military has been quite idle and has forgotten that its role is not in Nigeria's internal affairs but in providing a robust and violent defense of the commonweal.

A casual review of Nigeria's military will show great lack not only in numbers of personnel but in the equipments that these men and women have been provisioned with to do their jobs. Some of the things that will be apparent will inllude the following:

[
I]No presence of a single 4th-generation fighter in the arsenal of its airforce or on order.

No durable tank within any of its formation. Its tanks consist mostly of Soviet era T-55 and the British made Vickers that has the 105 mm gun turret as opposed to the standard 120 mm smooth bore that most modern militaries have.

No single anti-aircraft missile battery that is worthy the while of a any serious-minded military. The most sophisticated anti-aircraft SAM that Nigeria has is the 16 Rolands it bought in the lates 1970s from Germany.

The whole country has less than 50 anti-aircraft guns or AAA.

The navy has no functioning frigate or destroyer or submarine

No secure communication systems by which ibranches of its militaries can talk to one another. This inability to communicate led to the high casualties among serving Nigerian soldiers in both Liberia and Sierra Leone.

It simply lacked the logistical capacity or the air transport capacity to ferry its soldiers to where they are needed in the events of war or an invasion of its territory.

The army cannot field a single modern anti-tank missile such as the Kornet-E or the Metia-M that Hezbollah used to devastating effect in its recent war with Israel.[/I]
In the mean time, leaders of the country never tire of transversing the globe and telling the world how important they are while all their calculations of power and capacity to project that power is simply what it is -SHAKARA. It is so disheartening to witness the current leaders lay the foundation for significant problems that Nigeria will have a difficult time extricating itself from in future years. I really do pity future Nigerians for the problems that their elders have created for them to solve.

Enjoy,

AM Benbella

BLF
Sep 24, 2006, 12:51 AM
We at the Biafran Liberation Front(BLF) can only wonder what is coming next.

Akinyi
Sep 25, 2006, 03:39 AM
Mr. Steve,

Let us not be carried away. That a few generals died is no reason for you to be so emotional and loose your senses.

Nigeria has lost more generals and officers through executions for reason of a failed coup. Do not make this crash look like it is the worst that ever happened in or to Nigeria.


That emotion has dented your reasoning is not my fault or yours. Many a Nigerian has been conditioned to reason through the prism of emotion like you. I do not let emotion becloud my reasoning.

If you cannot see the error in all the money found in that crash, you should not be allowed to reason with reasonable people. In your book, no one should talk ill of the dead because death has conferred sainthood on those generals.


Anyhow, you want everybody to reason like you- a trait you could not wean yourself off of. Just shows your "my way or the highway" ideology.


Do not be angry with me. Next time I will reason the way you want me to.

FCNS
Sep 26, 2006, 06:23 PM
I Agree with act Maj Benbella and a lot of other people here. The armed forces of nigeria has what is known as "culture dominance" which is that as long as the core fighting units (infantry, armor, artillary etc) are o.k then medical, engineering and other departments can suffer.

"when a baby is crying please listen to them" a few months ago the new chief of naval staff announced the irrepairable state of the equipment that the airforce has.


as per conpiracy theory, i can come up with 3 or 4 as to the cause of the crash:

1. The nigerian senate and politicans set it up in order to justify the purchase of new equipment so they can loot some money in the process.

2. Nigerian politicians and people of southern extraction were bent on giving IBB a taste of his own medicine as revenge for C130 mishap by killing mostly officers close to him. infact Gen Bamali being his former ADC would have been a good candidate for chief of army staff or chief of defence staff come 2007 if IBB assume office.

3. The Officer flying the plane at the time must have been a juinor airforce officer in training (why do they have to train them on serious flights such as these carrying senior officers on board, beleive it or not this is how they train pilots even on domestic civil flights) the officer must also not have had experience flying in clouds/thunderstoms

4Certain powers that be are using it as a "obasanjo must go" propaganda

5 IBB himself might be setting this and many other similar national problems up so as to have issues to talk about publicly or condolence visits broadcast in the media

6 It was a natural human error because the region of the country is hilly and with a lot of clouds /poor visibility its hard judge a mountain region even the most experienced pilots will tell you that. This is why even in the navy despite having a radar there is still need to put a watch officer outside the ship who will keep an eye out for anything the radar does not catch such as another ship, a bouy, debris, iceberg etc


Miltary specialists have estimated that it will take the nigerian army 5 to 10 years to recover the experience the lost officers have that could have been passed on to the junior ones: in armor, military police, signals, artillary etc


In the meantime General and National Salute to our fallen heros and long live the Federal Republic of Nigeria.


Signed,

Future Chief of Naval Staff (FCNS) FSS, PSC(+) MSS, DSS, DSO, DSM, FWC, CFR etc

CC: Acting Major B. Benbella (brigade major, 53rd boli and ekpa reconnesance brigade)