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Ewuro
Nov 24, 2008, 02:58 PM
Valteena, you see where we differ!!

Your "all encompassing" assistance deals with "physical and psychological" consequaces. Good.

The assistance I am envisaging is the one that deals with physical, psychological and spiritual consequences. You tried to remove the spiritual consequence or downplay its significance while I aver that it is as important as the other consequences. Unfortunately, spiritual matters are handled spiritually by spiritual men using spiritual means. My point therefore is that your "all encompassing" assistance is not that "all encompassing" once it leaves out the spiritual assistance that the children may need.

That, my fair lady, is where we differ.

Thank you.
Let me make it very clear, there are no children witches. Let those who want to help the children to overcome their physical and psychological trauma continue with the good works.

If you know of any spiritual programme by which you can really identify witches and and remove witch power you can carry on, provided your programme does not involve a psychological and physical abuse of children in anyway.

blooming_i
Nov 24, 2008, 03:16 PM
Let me make it very clear, there are no children witches. Let those who want to help the children to overcome their physical and psychological trauma continue with the good works.

If you know of any spiritual programme by which you can really identify witches and and remove witch power you can carry on, provided your programme does not involve a psychological and physical abuse of children in anyway.


Deliverance by genuine christians needs no torture of any kind. Those who engaged in this wickedness on these children are ignorant. Evil spirit can't be attacked physically, if at all they are possessed. This is why no one should take them seriously as being christians. The bible they claim affiliation with makes it clear that:"For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds" (2 Corinthians 10:4)

Mikky jaga
Nov 24, 2008, 03:59 PM
Let me make it very clear, there are no children witches. Let those who want to help the children to overcome their physical and psychological trauma continue with the good works.

If you know of any spiritual programme by which you can really identify witches and and remove witch power you can carry on, provided your programme does not involve a psychological and physical abuse of children in anyway.

And I should take the words of a faceless Ewuro for it: "Let me make it very clear". You are more ignorant than most of the respondents on this thread. You are always at your best when cheering people that appeared to have made some valid points. Stick to that.

Bye.

Ewuro
Nov 24, 2008, 04:26 PM
And I should take the words of a faceless Ewuro for it: "Let me make it very clear". You are more ignorant than most of the respondents on this thread. You are always at your best when cheering people that appeared to have made some valid points. Stick to that.

Bye.

The only reason why I have to respond to a chronic ignoramus like you is that this topic touches on the essence of humanity. Obviously, it is that humanity that you continue to demonstrate that you lack. It is very easy for evil people to label other peoples kids as witches. Their witch-hunting inclination fails them when it comes to their relatives. Your moronic and unproven beliefs is an embarassment to civilisation.

chanchaga
Nov 24, 2008, 04:31 PM
So, now that we are planning a Christmas party for these kids, are we saying witches do not exist? Are we saying some or all of these children can not be witches? What is the effect on the society if we nurture and shield witches from infancy to adulthood? Are we not just postponing the evil days?

If we do not support Helen Akpabio's method of dealing with the witch issues, are there no better ways of dealing with the issue other than pamper and allow them to go on with their nefarious activities?

Someone suggested that people should volunteer to adopt some of these kids, I wonder if there is an African that will willingly adopt a child that had been found to possess witchcraft powers without first taking steps to "deliver" such children.

Yes, we do not stone witches to death today, but pampering them with Xmas party as if witchcraft does not exist or that it is such a harmless practise is go to the other extreme. While we rescue these kids from the killer squads that are hell bent on unleashing terror on them, we should find a more humane method of delivering them from the withcraft powers. To do otherwise is to nurture deadly snakes under one's bed.

Mikky Jaga,

If some people come to your house when you were 5 years old and falsely accused you that you were a witch, and your parents believed them hook, line and sinker, knowing fully well that you are not, how would you defend yourself?

RAYNOSA
Nov 24, 2008, 04:55 PM
Mikky Jaga,

If some people come to your house when you were 5 years old and falsely accused you that you were a witch, and your parents believed them hook, line and sinker, knowing fully well that you are not, how would you defend yourself?


Mikky................Crying......................: cry::cry::cry::cry::cry:

Papaaaaa,Mamaaaaaaaaaa i beg no be witch oooooooooh na only meat i dey thief for pot i swear.............................:rolleyes::smile ::smile::smile::lol::lol:

Anioma777
Nov 25, 2008, 02:50 PM
@RAYNOSA

Very funny I have been in a good mood all day after reading your last comment
:D

@Afaukwu

Believe it or not there are witches in Nigeria. Whether these particular kids are witches is, however, a different story I am not prepared to delve into. Infact, I even believe that some of the so-called ''pastor-witch-healers'' inflict witchcraft upon the kids and then turn around to ''heal'' them; all in a bid to milk their unsuspecting parents dry. The last days are here with us. Beware

What last days are here with us. Biko kanyi nu ukwu ( please let us hear word -say something that makes sense so to speak ).

So have you seen God lately and he confined in you the last days are coming. Witches in Nigeria have as much impact as a leaf dropping on your head:D
Jesus Christ himself SAID HE DOES NOT KNOW THE END OF TIME, so its quite amusing that you seem to know. Reading the book of revelation too much can wreck havoc on ones sensabilities!!!!!!!

Mikky jaga
Nov 25, 2008, 04:24 PM
Mikky Jaga,

If some people come to your house when you were 5 years old and falsely accused you that you were a witch, and your parents believed them hook, line and sinker, knowing fully well that you are not, how would you defend yourself?

Chachanga, I expect a more reasoned question from you.

Here you are saying "falsely accused". How did you determine that the accusation was false? You see why I cannot answer your question, it is based on a premise that is very faulty.

When somebody is accused of anything at all, there must be investigation before you determine whether the accusation is true or false. That is what I implore those trying to help these children to do. Investigate the allegation and if true, send them for deliverance at the proper place(s).

WaleAkin
Nov 25, 2008, 05:19 PM
When somebody is accused of anything at all, there must be investigation before you determine whether the accusation is true or false. That is what I implore those trying to help these children to do.Jaga,

I'd implore/beg that when you find yourself in a pit, do not dig further! It makes matters worse! If i were you, i would have stopped posting further on this heated discuss! Anyway, let me add my little knowledge on the issue:

1. The children(154) were accused by their parents at those mushroom churches.

2. The eediotic cum Monkeyed Parents(who should be stoned to death) believed the Preachers of doom and drove the children from their respective homes where they should have been parentally catered for!

3. The question now is, were investigations conducted(And talking about investigation: How is one conducted in this case?)

4. Is drilling of the skull with a 6 inch nail part of the investigation? Is the brandishing of a matchete (As seen in Mary's case) part of the said investigation? Talking about Mary's Younger Sister, Utibe-Abasi, a 2 year old baby, whats the investigation conducted to ascertain/prove that indeed she is a witch? Utibe-Abasi was returned to her Mother and she was accepted back into the family house, a Baby that has been tagged as witch? Why was she accepted back if indeed she is a witch? The slippered Brain. Saliva Dropping. Halitosis Mouthed Man who brandished the cutlass chased Mary and threatened to kill her before dawn but accepted her younger Sister. Whats the reasoning here?
send them for deliverance at the proper place(s).Where? Pastor(?) Helen Ukpabio's church? The cassock wearing Bishop who mouthed the now famous statement?"There are 2.3 Mirrion (sic) in Akwa Ibom state"

Ajibs
Nov 25, 2008, 07:41 PM
When somebody is accused of anything at all, there must be investigation before you determine whether the accusation is true or false. That is what I implore those trying to help these children to do. Investigate the allegation and if true, send them for deliverance at the proper place(s).

MJ
The above seems to be the crux of your argument, so let us consider what you have said. Kenn1 has given an excellent response save for some yabis that he gave you on the last page. In my opinion, you and I are on the same page that witches and wizards do indeed exist thus far.

So we start by you saying:

When somebody is accused of anything at all, there must be investigation before you determine whether the accusation is true or false.

Fine, you are correct. However, you seem to be missing the point, your premise for arriving at this conclusive statement is faulty. in many cases, it is NOT the family that is making the accusations BUT the so called men and women of God or the community. Examples? First Look at the documentary again, the example that Kenn used on the Mother and her the two little kids. The two year old who was later on returned to the Mother. Did the mother accuse her childeren of being witches or pastor or the community?

Secondly, there was a scene when at one of the churches, under an open canopy, the pastor walked up to a woman in glasses, told another woman to take her hand, prayed and asked where are your children? And the the teenage boy was pointed out and he proceeds to say, he is a problem or a witch. You see the mother shaking her head and saying no, I believe she said something like: "it must be an accident"

You can see that these parents a pushed, cajoled and intimidated to finally believe that their childeren are witches. likewise the kids themselves are "tortured" to confess and "tell the truth". Now in the case of the woman with the two kids and the two year old that was returned to her, consider this:

If she believed her children where witches:
1. Why did she accept for Sam to go with her back to her village to plead with the people to allow her return with her children?

2. Why did she take back the 2 year old that had be said to have been initiated as a witch by the older sibling?

3. Why did she continue to make visits to the center to see the child she had to leave behind at the center? Did you see the last scene of the poor child running after her? Did you see the mother crying? Or you saw the mother beating the child?

So considering the above, why would a sane woman want to have her two witches kids returned to her? If indeed she believed they were witches and the cause of all her problems and misery?

So back to what you said:
When somebody is accused of anything at all So the question becomes, who is making the accusation and under what circumstances? And what the the events that are cited upon making the accusation?

Lets consider a real situation that occurs many times in Nigeria, misscarrage. Now if a woman miscarries and the child is accused of being a witch and causing the misscarrage, I ask you who makes the accusation that the child is responsible and on what basis? Physical or spiritual evidence?

Now lets look at the second part of you comment:


there must be investigation before you determine whether the accusation is true or false.

Now if a woman miscarries, who should be carrying out the investigation for the cause? A Pastor or a Doctor? Do pastors have the ability to investigate the physical causes of Misccariages or have doctors looked at the woman and concluded that nothing physical caused the situation and therefore hands over the woman to the Pastor for spiritual diagnosis?

Lets change the situation: A man falls from a Palm trees and dies and the child is accused of killing him, same things applies, who investigates the cause of death, the Pastor or a Doctor? Who tells us if the man slipped or was pushed? A Pastor or a detective?

So not only do we see that we have a problem with first, who is making accusations, we also have a problem in validating the accusations as you have said should be done. Pastors do not validate accusations on their own. Hence assuming this is a faulty premise also.

So we now get to the latter part of your comment:

Investigate the allegation and if true, send them for deliverance at the proper place

So my question to you is: Where is the proper place and who determines where this proper place is? So if we do discover for example later on that one of the kids at the center is indeed a witch, you are reccomending that we send him to that chap who mixes blood and alcohol and gives the child? Or lets be a bit more civil, should we be sending them to what church? Catholic? Methodist? Anglican? Pentecostal? Brotherhood of the Cross and Star? Furthermore, exactly as noted above who determines the proper place? The parents or somebody else?

So you said to Chanchaga:


Here you are saying "falsely accused". How did you determine that the accusation was false? You see why I cannot answer your question, it is based on a premise that is very faulty.

From the above I hope you can see that your premise is actually as faulty if not more faulty, hence many of us cannot understand why you are basing your assumptions on such a faulty premise and sticking to it.

The truth is Nigeria does not have a system for the identification of witches or wizards as I doubt any country does. These are spiritual matters not easy to determine. So I say to you that let us worry about the physical we can see, we can see the children have been severely abused. let us deal with that. I tell you if any of them are really witches, we will find that out! It is not like they will stop their ways simply because they have changed location.

VOR
Nov 25, 2008, 08:30 PM
The Nigerian government issued a statement regarding this documentary today.
You'll find it in today's Punch newspaper. E-Punch on page 9, sorry I can't post it here.

Ajibs
Nov 25, 2008, 09:23 PM
Here it is...


THE Federal Government on Monday expressed concern over a television documentary aired by a British Channel.

This was contained in a statement from the Nigeria High Commission in London and made available to the News Agency of Nigeria in Abuja.

The documentary showed children being tortured under a purported deliverance and exorcism service by some religious leaders in Akwa Ibom State.

The documentary, which was first aired across the UK on November 12 was entiled: ''Saving Africa’s Witch Children.” According to the statement, government is appalled that such despicable and vicious cultural and religious practices still subsist in some parts of Nigeria, in spite of government’s efforts at promoting the welfare of children through appropriate policies, programmes and legislations.

The statement said government would collaborate with relevant religious bodies to eliminate such evil practices in their mode of worship.

It noted that the country was multi-ethnic with varied religious and cultural practices and belief systems deeply rooted in the history and psyche of the people.

The statement, however, noted that it was not unexpected that practices purporting to exorcise witchcraft and sorcery were still pervasive in the country.

“There is therefore, the need for mass education, public awareness, media advocacy and sensitisation to the States and Local Government levels, especially in the rural areas on such harmful practices,” it stated.

It also noted the determination of the Federal Government to work in close collaboration with the States and the Local Governments against such retrogressive belief systems, especially those affecting the welfare of innocent children.

The statement noted that government had adopted several treaties to curb such negative cultural practices in accordance with international standards.

These include the domestication of the United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child, to which Nigeria is a signatory, by ensuring that the Child Rights Act was adopted by the National Assembly in 2003.

It explained further that Nigeria was also a signatory to the African Union Charter on the Rights and Welfare of the Child, which was also domesticated in 2000.

The statement also added that 17 states had enacted similar legislations, as pointed out in the particular case of Akwa Ibom State by Gov. Godswill Akpabio in the documentary under reference.

NAN recalls that the British Prime Minister, Mr Gordon Brown at the just concluded UN High Level Meeting on Interfaith and Inter-cultural Dialogue in New York had alleged that a school existed in Abuja funded by extremist group, poisoning children’s minds and attracting them to a life of terrorism.

“Recently in Abuja in Nigeria I visited school where children were either sitting on the floor without a desk or were sitting three to the desk that had been built for one.”


Since the high commisioner has taken note, VOR & Kenn can you see if he will support the plan we have now for the kids? lets see if the man is really taking this serious.

lagbaja_lagbaja
Nov 25, 2008, 09:38 PM
oluwa oo !!!! what a heartless people all in the name of christianity
So.. if a child cries to much now ...Na witch....
Beautiful nonsense from the well of ignorance .....i am deeply disappointed . Even listening to the lady pastor (with attitude) . "comment on that later "...
pls let us come together and make Nija better ooo oooooo...

Mira
Nov 25, 2008, 10:13 PM
This is really really sad! Especially when you see so called "churches", priest- pastors and even some educated men and women or whatever they call themselves being the Backbone of such child abuse and inhumanity.

We blamed the white man for slavery, apartheid, Racism! - Who are we going to point the finger this time to? Look at what we are doing to our own blood, folk, and RACE! It is a sad story

Christianity or whatever religious institution should teach Love and try to eradicate this nonsense idea of witchcraft and not use the misery of others to enrich themselves!

The witch doctor should be arrested immediately for saying publicly that he has killed over 110 people!

Believe me, it's not about witchcraft, it is all about POVERTY: Only poor people or does who have failed to make it in live will call their own blood a witch/wizard.

I bet the son or daughter of the Mayor of Akwa Ibom is not among these kids!

Tell me what a 4 months old baby or 5, 10 year old child knows about witchcraft! That is - If it exists
Get the parents/guardians a job with regular salary to meet their needs and this Witchcraft believe will disappear into thin air.

What is the Nigerian government and numeros human rights organization in Nigeria doing about this- Food for thought?
ABUJA - I hope you are watching! Take action!
As long poverty and unemployment reigns in Akwa Ibom and other remote places in Black Africa, such horrible stories will keep coming up.

God help us!

VOR
Nov 25, 2008, 10:17 PM
Yes N.A.R. Its been pencilled in on our to do list



Here it is...



Since the high commisioner has taken note, VOR & Kenn can you see if he will support the plan we have now for the kids? lets see if the man is really taking this serious.

emj
Nov 25, 2008, 11:45 PM
Yes N.A.R. Its been pencilled in on our to do list


It also noted the determination of the Federal Government to work in close collaboration with the States and the Local Governments against such retrogressive belief systems, especially those affecting the welfare of innocent children.

And also the adjacent to the adjacent in Abuja, all the way down to Oron and Eket....if u get watamean:source

Oluwato
Nov 26, 2008, 03:35 AM
Definition of witchcraft:

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/witchcraft

<table id="wn"><tbody><tr><td valign="top">Noun</td><td valign="top">1.</td><td>witchcraft - the art of sorcery witchery (http://www.thefreedictionary.com/witchery)
black art (http://www.thefreedictionary.com/black+art), black magic (http://www.thefreedictionary.com/black+magic), necromancy (http://www.thefreedictionary.com/necromancy), sorcery (http://www.thefreedictionary.com/sorcery) - the belief in magical spells that harness occult forces or evil spirits to produce unnatural effects in the world
</td></tr></tbody></table>
Can children 0-8 years be witches? No. Can they be mentally prepared to become witches later? Yes. It's all about training. What you put in is what you get out. Parents and other legal guardians can train children in sorcery.

The problem here is the unaccountable ministers that "worship" and "serve" Satan under the label of Christianity. The judgement of Yeshua HaMashiach is against them! How dare you afflict the body and soul of an innocent child under the inspiration of your seducing spirit?

Who ordained this "ignoramus" minister? Nigeria is such a "dumping" ground for every wave of doctrine. When the political leaders are unaccountable, is it a surprise that the spiritual leaders are polluted as well? In my own opinion, she is still a witch herself, she is hearing voices!

Even in my ignorant and deceived days when I was exposed to darkness at white garment churches, cutlass and "violent" instruments were never part of the deliverance sessions... this is a wake up call to Christians in Nigeria.

That parents can be so deluded to reject their natural love and discernment and subject their children to such evil is proof that Nigeria is in a state of emergency! Are we bringing back the days of killing of twins that Mary Slessor abolished or is this the Akwa Ibom version of the "Abiku" myth?

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/heresy
heresy [herr-iss-ee] Noun
pl -sies
1. an opinion contrary to the principles of a religion
2. any belief thought to be contrary to official or established theory [Greek hairein to choose]

No where in God's holy word - the bible is physical tortue of any kind a method of deliverance... let the ignorant LEARN!

Kenn
Nov 26, 2008, 08:57 AM
Shortly before after 9:00 pm (UK time) on Tuesday, 25th of November, 2008, I called Mr Sam Ikpe-Itauma, the man taking care of the children at Child's Rights And Rehabilitation Network (CRARN) centre for the kids accused of witchcraft in Akwa Ibom State. At the time, Mr Ikpe-Itauma was just coming in from Oron. The kids (those still up) were all in high spirit, all wanting to speak to me on the phone at once, happy, playful, sending their hellos a thousand times amidst joy and infectious laughter. To think that these were the same kids that looked all timid, tentative and trauma-riddled on television…. Their liveliness and unrestrained friendliness made me guffaw loudly and endlessly in elation.

Sam had gone to Oron to pick up another addition to the family – a boy of about 6 named Kingsley Edet. Kingsley's father abandoned the mother with their three children. Kingsley's other siblings died and he was left an only child. But he was immediately branded a wizard who'd brought about the death of the other children and, just like that, the mother abandoned him! Kingsley found himself living with some relations and eventually with an uncle. This uncle woke up one day to complain of a pain the neck. He accused little Kingsley of being the cause and organized with some unknown others to have Kingsley killed. They hit upon what they thought was a perfect idea, which was to take Kingsley in the thick of the night and throw him into a fast flowing stream in a dangerous part of town where surely he must meet his end.

The stream they threw Kingsley in runs along the Eket-Oron Road where some roadwork is going on. As it happened, assorted construction materials left by careless workmen washed into the stream had blocked a certain portion of the fast flowing stream. Kingsley meanwhile had been swept by the water from Oron up to another Local Government known as Orueosong where he was luckily hedged in by these materials in a pit in a very steep and slippery portion under a bridge. He was there shivering when he was found by villagers, who, rather than help, first debated. After their jaw-jawing, they reached a consensus that he must be a wizard who had come to that part of their village for a ‘meeting', but who then got stranded having somehow lost his powers. Just as they began to work themselves into homicidal rage, having resolved to kill him, along came a fellow who works with the Local Government, but who is also a volunteer for CRARN. He mingled with the crowd, saw the boy, shivering and cowering in the pit, fearful and disorientated. But he knew he dared not move to save him straightaway, not only because of the physical danger of getting to him where he was, but more because he knew the villagers would mob him. So he called up a few friends and the police who promptly arrived at the scene. The police then called in a special police unit to get the boy out of the place shortly before midnight.

The police began their investigation by taking the boy to the place where he was staying, but nobody volunteered information. They took him to his mother's place, but the mother had taken a hike four days before and everyone around simply acted dumb. All this happened about a week ago. Then, yesterday, police called Sam to come pick up the child. When he got there, they handed him a statement and he, once again, took the boy back to where he was living with the mother in a village called Uyaoro in Oron Local Government to undertake further investigations. Again, nobody volunteered information. One lady, Jane Akpan attempted to talk, but was severely threatened, so she quickly clammed up. But she found a way to call about 2 hours later to say the mother of the boy had escaped to Cameroon and that she has discovered that the father is hiding in a place called Eyetong. The lady testified that there had been a number of killings of children in the area and was herself very fearful for her life since they suspect she has some sympathy for the kids.

Sam is considering going to Eyetong to find Kingsley's dad, but we both agreed this is not the right time. I advised that his priority should be to nurse the child back to health, psychologically and physically, and not subject him once again to a confrontation with those who are supposed to love him, but who seem grimly invested in killing him. I advised that it is better Kingsley gets acquainted with others in the camp, get adjusted, make friends and generally establish his personality and presence around the place before they undertake such a journey. Sam has pencilled sometime next week to go to Eyetong.

I asked to specifically speak with Kingsley, but he couldn't speak English and I can't speak Ibibio! Sam became an interpreter! I told him he's a great boy and that there are thousands out here who love him and his friends in the camp and who think a world of them. I told him to listen to Sam and his elders and to always do what he is told. I said he should make sure he tells Sam and Mama Elizabeth (Sam's lovely wife) anything worrying him. The other kids joined in - all giggles, all banter and all talking happily at once into the phone! I told them to read their bible, say their prayers, listen to their teachers and try to all be professors, doctors, lawyers, engineers and big businessmen and women! They giggled more, said their tangled byes and fast-fading hellos, leaving the phone finally on a chirpy, giggly note. Right there, they have no care in the world! But what a burden to shoulder at their age! Life is not fair, but we will do our best to bridge this gap contrived by ignorance, senseless superstition, poverty, wickedness and sheer evil!

Please, continue to say your prayers for the kids and don't forget to do your bit financially with the contribution that is ongoing here and at http://groups.google.com/group/thenigerianchild?hl=en . Think up ideas people! Think up things we have to do to save our children, our future! Of course, it's going to be a long hard fight; but we all must start taking lessons now in grappling techniques!

Good will triumph here once we continue to work for it and insist on it!



CHEERS AND STAY BLESSED EVERYONE!

VOR
Nov 26, 2008, 11:53 AM
Na wa o! another one shortly after the public outcry? what is wrong with these people?

'The child was caught in the stream because he lost his powers'!!! na wa , I guess the "winch" power no like water......:rolleyes:

The Lord will save all these children as He saved Kingsley, He will frustrate all the plans of the enemy concerning these children, He will send helpers to these children in the nick of time just like he sent a helper to Kingsley.

These people seem to lord it over the community, imagine the fear they have instilled in the people, that when children are wantonly killed, people are afraid to speak up!

Its time to introduce law and order to this community!! nonsense! :rolleyes:

VOR
Nov 26, 2008, 12:00 PM
God help us!



Yes, but we have to help ourselves. God has equipped us to do so. As my father will say, God will not come down to do the work, you have to do it and He will give you His full backing and you know at the end you will be victorious.

emj
Nov 26, 2008, 03:13 PM
Yes, but we have to help ourselves. God has equipped us to do so. As my father will say, God will not come down to do the work, you have to do it and He will give you His full backing and you know at the end you will be victorious.

Hmm...Olorun oni sokale wa....God no go come down...alatilehin ni Olorun...He will back you all da way...Full Steam Ahead:arrow:

Nice doings Kenn1....Kingsley is one of the lucky few...we pray and hope through more enlightenment that this act will be Kiboshed soonest:idea:

Mikky jaga
Nov 26, 2008, 04:50 PM
Jaga,

I'd implore/beg that when you find yourself in a pit, do not dig further! It makes matters worse! If i were you, i would have stopped posting further on this heated discuss! Anyway, let me add my little knowledge on the issue:



Sorry Mister,

The problem here is that I cannot see any pit. Maybe you were looking with your spiritual eye. If so, congrats!






1. The children(154) were accused by their parents at those mushroom churches.


mushroom churches? And how did you determine that?



2. The eediotic cum Monkeyed Parents(who should be stoned to death) believed the Preachers of doom and drove the children from their respective homes where they should have been parentally catered for!


Hear the Sharia Court Judge - WaleAkin. The parents should be stoned to death for being "eediotic" and "monkeyed". How you are different from the people that rammed nails into the heads of the children is difficult to imagine.



The question now is, were investigations conducted(And talking about investigation: How is one conducted in this case?)

4. Is drilling of the skull with a 6 inch nail part of the investigation? Is the brandishing of a matchete (As seen in Mary's case) part of the said investigation?


I have said it over and over again, but since you seemed not to have read it, I repeat it here. Accusation of witchcraft is a spiritual matter. The investigation has to be done spiritually. Using physical means to investigate spiritual matter is very wrong indeed.



Talking about Mary's Younger Sister, Utibe-Abasi, a 2 year old baby, whats the investigation conducted to ascertain/prove that indeed she is a witch? Utibe-Abasi was returned to her Mother and she was accepted back into the family house, a Baby that has been tagged as witch? Why was she accepted back if indeed she is a witch? The slippered Brain. Saliva Dropping. Halitosis Mouthed Man who brandished the cutlass chased Mary and threatened to kill her before dawn but accepted her younger Sister. Whats the reasoning here?[FONT=Palatino Linotype]Where? Pastor(?) Helen Ukpabio's church? The cassock wearing Bishop who mouthed the now famous statement?"There are 2.3 Mirrion (sic) in Akwa Ibom state"[/FONT


That somebody made a diagnosis using a wrong method does not foreclose any other future investigations. If you felt the diagnosis was wrong seek for better judgments from more qualified people. They will either confirm or reject the previous diagnosis. Dismissing what you do not understand with a wave of the hand is a lazy way of solving a problem. Investigate!! Your investigation may lead you to discovering something deeper than you set out to seek.

WaleAkin
Nov 26, 2008, 05:15 PM
mushroom churches? And how did you determine that?Yes, i repeat that they are mushroom churches cos real churches will stick to the tenets of Christ where everyone is a Christian- ChristLike behavioural attitudes!
Hear the Sharia Court Judge - WaleAkin. The parents should be stoned to death for being "eediotic" and "monkeyed". How you are different from the people that rammed nails into the heads of the children is difficult to imagine. Mikky, i am sorry but i am of the opinion that your thinking is really warped(No insults intended at all). I have two lovely Boys and will protect them with my whole life. I cant fathom why on earth a right thinking Parent will dance to the cacophonious tune of a Pastor(?) and tag their children witches even going to the extent of drilling holes on the head of a child and you expect that we fold our arms and turn away from such despicable act? I also note that you attend Christ Embassy.........Is that what they teach you there? Whats your Pastor take on little children even when they misbehave? Throw them to the Bears and Hyenas for food?
Using physical means to investigate spiritual matter is very wrong indeed.You have failed in the last one week to tell us all what preffered method should have been used a la spirituality! Tell us pls!

Mikky jaga
Nov 26, 2008, 05:44 PM
MJ

Fine, you are correct. However, you seem to be missing the point, your premise for arriving at this conclusive statement is faulty. in many cases, it is NOT the family that is making the accusations BUT the so called men and women of God or the community. Examples? First Look at the documentary again, the example that Kenn used on the Mother and her the two little kids. The two year old who was later on returned to the Mother. Did the mother accuse her childeren of being witches or pastor or the community?

Secondly, there was a scene when at one of the churches, under an open canopy, the pastor walked up to a woman in glasses, told another woman to take her hand, prayed and asked where are your children? And the the teenage boy was pointed out and he proceeds to say, he is a problem or a witch. You see the mother shaking her head and saying no, I believe she said something like: "it must be an accident"

You can see that these parents a pushed, cajoled and intimidated to finally believe that their childeren are witches. likewise the kids themselves are "tortured" to confess and "tell the truth". Now in the case of the woman with the two kids and the two year old that was returned to her, consider this:

If she believed her children where witches:
1. Why did she accept for Sam to go with her back to her village to plead with the people to allow her return with her children?

2. Why did she take back the 2 year old that had be said to have been initiated as a witch by the older sibling?

3. Why did she continue to make visits to the center to see the child she had to leave behind at the center? Did you see the last scene of the poor child running after her? Did you see the mother crying? Or you saw the mother beating the child?

So considering the above, why would a sane woman want to have her two witches kids returned to her? If indeed she believed they were witches and the cause of all her problems and misery?



Whether it is the family or the community or the "so-called men of God" that made the allegations, accusation of witchcraft is a very serious one indeed. Unfortunately, like everything spiritual, you cannot prove them under the telescope. They are dealt with using spiritual means. Terefore, investigate! Do not sweep the accusation under the carpet! Let spiritual people versed in that aspect of ministry handle the matter. We abide by what they say based on the scriptures. Again, for those who want to jump on the Mikky Bashing Wagon, Physical means are not employed to solve spiritual problems.

The examples you cited are very unfortunate indeed! You do not cajole a person into believing his child is a witch! The parents may have witnessed some strange things happening in their house and may have rightly or wrongly suspected the child. The man of God prays for the child and if in the process of prayers, he discovers some evil forces operating in the lives of the child, he casts out the evil spirit by word of command and the child is delivered. No torture, No beating and No payment. The people in the video are charlattans and not men of God as I have said repeatedly here.


MJ

So back to what you said:

Lets consider a real situation that occurs many times in Nigeria, misscarrage. Now if a woman miscarries and the child is accused of being a witch and causing the misscarrage, I ask you who makes the accusation that the child is responsible and on what basis? Physical or spiritual evidence?

Now lets look at the second part of you comment:

Now if a woman miscarries, who should be carrying out the investigation for the cause? A Pastor or a Doctor? Do pastors have the ability to investigate the physical causes of Misccariages or have doctors looked at the woman and concluded that nothing physical caused the situation and therefore hands over the woman to the Pastor for spiritual diagnosis?



Physical problems can be caused by spiritual means. A man can be charmed spiritually and then he starts to behave irrationally physically. A miscarriage can be induced by either a physical or spiritual means. The first thing is to call for a doctor. At least he will solve the physical problem of bleeding, so the woman does not bleed to death. Of course, a honest doctor does not discountenance the spiritual causes of sicknesses. That is why we pray for those in the hospitals. Doctors care, but God heals! That has already introduced the spiritual into the healing process.

So, doctors have their parts to play and pastors have theirs too. None is exclusive of the other.


MJ

Lets change the situation: A man falls from a Palm trees and dies and the child is accused of killing him, same things applies, who investigates the cause of death, the Pastor or a Doctor? Who tells us if the man slipped or was pushed? A Pastor or a detective?

So not only do we see that we have a problem with first, who is making accusations, we also have a problem in validating the accusations as you have said should be done. Pastors do not validate accusations on their own. Hence assuming this is a faulty premise also.



A man falls from a tree and dies. Purely physical incident - An accident. But then, somebody said it is not just that, that his child used spiritual means to cause the accident, then a spiritual dimension has been introduced to what we thought was purely a physical problem. Do we dismiss the spiritual angle just like that? No! Investigate!!! That is where the pastors now come in. Everybody has his own duty to perform. The coroner's report may not be necessary if there is no dispute as to the cause of death.



MJ

So we now get to the latter part of your comment:

So my question to you is: Where is the proper place and who determines where this proper place is? So if we do discover for example later on that one of the kids at the center is indeed a witch, you are reccomending that we send him to that chap who mixes blood and alcohol and gives the child? Or lets be a bit more civil, should we be sending them to what church? Catholic? Methodist? Anglican? Pentecostal? Brotherhood of the Cross and Star? Furthermore, exactly as noted above who determines the proper place? The parents or somebody else?



The proper place to send a child that is possessed of witchcraft spirit is where he/she will receive deliverance without torture or any kind of abuse whatsoever. A parent that loves his/her child will not condone the evil practices seen in those videos.

As to which church, I have not mentioned any church, but there are men of God everywhere. By their fruits you shall know them. It is the duty of the parent to determine where his/her child's problem will be taken care of. No man of God forces solutions on people. You never read of such in the Bible.


MJ

From the above I hope you can see that your premise is actually as faulty if not more faulty, hence many of us cannot understand why you are basing your assumptions on such a faulty premise and sticking to it.



I see no faulty premise. Maybe it exists only in your fertile imagination.


MJ

The truth is Nigeria does not have a system for the identification of witches or wizards as I doubt any country does. These are spiritual matters not easy to determine. So I say to you that let us worry about the physical we can see, we can see the children have been severely abused. let us deal with that. I tell you if any of them are really witches, we will find that out! It is not like they will stop their ways simply because they have changed location.

You made a very valid point there. But I modify it by adding: "If we cannot find a man of God to minister to the spiritual needs of these children, we should then stick to getting them off the streets and giving them rice and chicken for Christmas". But, are we sure we cannot find true men of God in Nigeria? I doubt very much.

Mikky jaga
Nov 26, 2008, 06:09 PM
Yes, i repeat that they are mushroom churches cos real churches will stick to the tenets of Christ where everyone is a Christian- ChristLike behavioural attitudes! [B]


Ogbeni Wale,

Your "tenets of Christ" baffles me o! Everyone is a Christian ke! Mba That one no be tenet of Christ at all! Jesus told some people: Ye are of your father, the devil and the deeds of your father ye will do". I cannot recollect where Jesus called children of the devil Christians!


i am sorry but i am of the opinion that your thinking is really warped(No insults intended at all). I have two lovely Boys and will protect them with my whole life. I cant fathom why on earth a right thinking Parent will dance to the cacophonious tune of a Pastor(?) and tag their children witches even going to the extent of drilling holes on the head of a child and you expect that we fold our arms and turn away from such despicable act?


I am with you on this score!! I will never allow cutlass wielding "pastors" to come near my children, or carpenters turned preachers to practise their long forgotten profession on my child's head not to talk of listening to their evil preachings. Any action aimed at bringing them to book is welcomed short of stoning them to death.:D


[FONT=Palatino Linotype][SIZE=3] I also note that you attend Christ Embassy.........Is that what they teach you there? Whats your Pastor take on little children even when they misbehave? Throw them to the Bears and Hyenas for food?[FONT=Palatino Linotype][SIZE=3]

I think you need to see an optician to correct the vision of your third eye. It is not very sharp again at all! Me, a member of Christ Embassy? Ogbeni, you are way off. Stick to what you know and stop relying on that third eye.

My pastor's take on little children? My man, you belittle my intelligence. I know how to take care of my children that I do not need any pastor to tell me what to do. But when spiritual questions crop up, I defer to spiritual men to handle spiritual matters.

My pastor will not ask anybody to throw his children out of the home (That is a way of saying his god is powerless to handle the problem created by a common witch) No! He speaks the word and the witch in the child runs away! Very simple, eh? That is the way of God. It is the way of transgressors that is hard.

lizmoses
Nov 26, 2008, 06:33 PM
I have sort of pulled myself together and can manage to comment on this tread without so much emotions like when I saw the videos.

I have also noticed there have been so much exchanges between my brother and my brother(s). While I cannot do much of writing at this moment, l'll be brief putting forward my thoughts in few supportable facts:

It is possible that even children can be possessed by demonic spirits;

It is not untrue that deliverance can be done to set whoever is possessed (including children) free;

Godly deliverance should follow in Christ's steps using the word and not weapons;

When an (acclaimed) man of God begins to use weapons and inflicting of injuries to cast out demons, it suggests that he lacks the true power of God.
Jesus was never violent in casting out demons, my bible records that the demons feared when they saw him. All those who were oppressed that he set free, he never condemned but told them to go and show the world the goodness of God.

Let's ask ourselves the honest question, where exactly can we place the sort of deliverance happening in those videos? Of who are these pastors, Jesus or satan?

By their works (fruits) you shall know them

Ewuro
Nov 26, 2008, 06:53 PM
I have sort of pulled myself together and can manage to comment on this tread without so much emotions like when I saw the videos.

I have also noticed there have been so much exchanges between my brother and my brother(s). While I cannot do much of writing at this moment, l'll be brief putting forward my thoughts in few supportable facts:

It is possible that even children can be possessed by demonic spirits;

It is not untrue that deliverance can be done to set whoever is possessed (including children) free;

Godly deliverance should follow in Christ's steps using the word and not weapons;

When an (acclaimed) man of God begins to use weapons and inflicting of injuries to cast out demons, it suggests that he lacks the true power of God.
Jesus was never violent in casting out demons, my bible records that the demons feared when they saw him. All those who were oppressed that he set free, he never condemned but told them to go and show the world the goodness of God.

Let's ask ourselves the honest question, where exactly can we place the sort of deliverance happening in those videos? Of who are these pastors, Jesus or satan?

By their works (fruits) you shall know them
Thanks for your exposition. Let ALL little chidren come to me, for theirs is the kingdom of God - JESUS. So by HIS words there are no children witches.

To give a little doubt that children could be possessed is to allow miscreants and evil pastors to play the field on the weakest and the ignorant and make a living out of sheer wickedness. None of these people have pronounced their own children as witches.

In Africa, we have transfered our fetish beliefs of the past into christainity.

If there are any christain pastrors left in Nigeria, they should come out with the vast resources made from tithes and offerings and wage a long and sustainable campaign against this type of corrupted christain practices.

Pastors Adeboye, Kumuyi, Ashmolowo, jasper Akinola, Okogie and all other prominent christain leaders must come out to wage a campaign on this disgraceful practice and make sure they are eliminated in every nook and cranny.

lizmoses
Nov 26, 2008, 11:30 PM
Ewuro,

I have chosen not to be drawn into an argument with you on a very sensitive issue as this.

I hope someday, somehow, you will get the understanding of my words.

My opinion remains "anyone can be possessed, old or young" but the good news is that Jesus Christ did not come for those who are perfect but to save and deliver the possessed, the robber, the prostitute etc of this world. God's salvation is based on love and does not add any sorrow (as in what the children are experiencing).

So whoever says s(he) is truly helping them to be saved, needs not subject them to humiliation, sorrow and pains. I think we agree on this point, so kindly let's keep it that way.

Keep smiling!

Obugi
Nov 27, 2008, 12:04 PM
All,

I see the Xtians have gathered to shed crocodile tears over what is normal practice with solid Scriptural basis. It is the very essence of hypocrisy to read the Bible and then come onto NVS to evince righteous anger over infanticide.

Don't take my word for it: By their own testimony, we know Yahweh & Jesus have killed children many, many times. What is so extraordinary about this in Xtiandom abeg? This is NORMAL practice for Xtians.

I hope those among you who so readily condemn Muslim violence in Northern Nigeria and elsewhere can at least tone down your smug condemnation of the Koranic incitement or whatever you call it. You are no better. Christianity in Africa perpetrates violence against children on a level that is truly medieval.

Its pitiful, the excuses that Xtians trot out to justify the blood lust that is so basic to Biblical doctrine.

Yahweh & Jesus killed thousands of infants?

Nothing wrong with that, says the African Xtian.

Yaweh gave the kids plenty of warning before crushing their infant skulls against the nearest desert rock.

Oh, the babies were part of an army that attacked God's chosen people. Just picture Amalekite infants and babies wielding swords and spears :lol::lol::lol:

Oh, God gave us freewill and people choose to use it the wrong way. Really???? But the Bible tells us that Yahweh and Jesus knew thousands of years ago that their murderous followers in Akwa Ibom would be spiking children in the head with nails......and yet Yahweh & Jesus allowed it to go ahead. Just what kind of God is this????? You see death coming to innocent kids but let it go ahead?

Where is the freewill in something that God has already ordained?

The African Xtian........a dirty, hypocritical and craven creature, if there ever was one. What an ignoble bunch........true wizards of logic.

Obugi.

Mikky jaga
Nov 27, 2008, 12:26 PM
Verily, verily I say unto thee, Obugi, the day cometh when Yahweh, the Father of Jesus Christ shall cast into hell both young and old that continue in their rejection of the love of Christ.

That day, Obugi shall realise the fact that no creature has the right to query his Creator, but then it will be too late.:rose:

Obugi
Nov 27, 2008, 01:05 PM
MJ,


Verily, verily I say unto thee, Obugi, the day cometh when Yahweh, the Father of Jesus Christ shall cast into hell both young and old that continue in their rejection of the love of Christ.

That day, Obugi shall realise the fact that no creature has the right to query his Creator, but then it will be too late.:rose:

Nah, I'm not going to heaven, hell or purgatory, but I'll humor you.

What about people who never heard of Jesus in their entire lives? Pray, what happens to them? You do know such people exist even today, right?

If I'm going to hell, then what happens to some of the strong, born-again Xtians on this NVS who
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1. Have openly advocated for the mass murder of Igbo people living in their states ( this was before you came to NVS. The guy is here shedding tears over infanticide by his fellow Akwa Ibom Xtians).

2. Openly stated that Igbo people are not worthy of marriage?

3. Stated that pogroms against the Igbo are "small matters" of no consequence?

In spite of these beliefs that deny the simple humanity of others, do they get a pass to heaven just because they call on the name of Christ?

I'd really like to know.

Then there's this nagging question: Don't Yahweh & Jesus already know my fate? How then do I have a choice? :lol::lol::lol::lol:

The African Xtian!!!!!!!

What a creature!!!!!

Obugi.

Mikky jaga
Nov 27, 2008, 01:25 PM
MJ,

Then there's this nagging question: Don't Yahweh & Jesus already know my fate? How then do I have a choice? :lol::lol::lol::lol:

Obugi.

I will like to address your nagging question since, as you said, the other things happened before I came to NVS

Yes, Jesus and Yahweh already know your fate and Yes you still have a choice. You can change your fate by accepting the love freely given by Jesus the Son of Yahweh.

Yahweh has not changed. He is still the consuming fire that decreed that all Amalekites be wiped out, both adult and children. That is why He sent His Son to show you how to escape the damnation of hell. Like I always say, if you go to hell, it is because you chose to, not because you had no choice.:rose:

Obugi
Nov 27, 2008, 01:39 PM
MJ


I will like to address your nagging question since, as you said, the other things happened before I came to NVS

Yes, Jesus and Yahweh already know your fate and Yes you still have a choice.

MJ, I very much respect your Xtian viewpoints because you don't shy away from the logical conclusions that flow from the scripture.

On this particular matter, I see no logic to your answer. Maybe logic and Jesus don't go hand in hand, mmmmmh?

Yahweh already knows my fate, just like he's always known the fate that would befall the child witches of Akwa Ibom. Yahweh chose to allow the events to happen......after all, he has the power to stop or change them and he didn't.

Its either I have freewill or I don't. Please don't give me a headache I can't afford.............lol!

Obugi.

Mikky jaga
Nov 27, 2008, 02:11 PM
MJ



MJ, I very much respect your Xtian viewpoints because you don't shy away from the logical conclusions that flow from the scripture.

On this particular matter, I see no logic to your answer. Maybe logic and Jesus don't go hand in hand, mmmmmh?

Yahweh already knows my fate, just like he's always known the fate that would befall the child witches of Akwa Ibom. Yahweh chose to allow the events to happen......after all, he has the power to stop or change them and he didn't.

Its either I have freewill or I don't. Please don't give me a headache I can't afford.............lol!

Obugi.

Logic? Any problem with that?

A judge knows the fate of any armed robber convicted in his court. But he does not know who those convicts will be. Everybody has the freewill to decide whether to be the next to be sentenced by that judge. You can also decide, by your freewill, not to do anything that will bring you before that judge to be sentenced.

So, you see, you have the freewill to go to hell or heaven. It is your choice.

Obugi
Nov 27, 2008, 02:22 PM
MJ


Logic? Any problem with that?

A judge knows the fate of any armed robber convicted in his court. But he does not know who those convicts will be. Everybody has the freewill to decide whether to be the next to be sentenced by that judge. You can also decide, by your freewill, not to do anything that will bring you before that judge to be sentenced.

So, you see, you have the freewill to go to hell or heaven. It is your choice.

We're not talking about a human judge here. We're talking about a God who knows exactly what will happen thousands of years in the future. An all-knowing God. Do you understand?

Let me put it simply.

God knows right now what I'll be eating for dinner on May 1, 2015.

So do I have any freewill to DECIDE what I'll be having for dinner on that day?

Obugi.

lizmoses
Nov 27, 2008, 06:20 PM
I suggest a complementary thread be opened for MJ and Obuji:lol::D but not in the dump...please Admin!

If I remember that guy Obuji very well, then I am right to forecast that this engagement will take the next 10pages....so they deserve a new thread.
:clap::clap::clap::clap:

My viewpoint though, arguing Obuji on Christianity is time wasting...I used to love replying both Fjord and himself in not more than 3 posts and taking my leave.:D:D

Obugi
Nov 27, 2008, 08:27 PM
Liz,

Come on now, indulge me.

Heed the Scriptures, light your lamp and let it shine into the dark places.....such as the hearts of the unsaved heathen who will burn forever and ever and ever for not calling on the name Jesus.

You don't even have it in your heart to try and bring me into the Lord? Is this the extent of you faith in Jesus and the power of the Xtian doctrine to cleanse even the worst of sinners such as Obugi? Or YOU KNOW that your faith makes no sense, but you choose to toe the most popular, profitable and socially acceptable path......just so you can belong?

Here I am having a very civil discussion with Mikky Jaga and you drop in suggesting that it be sent to the dumpster. What are you afraid of???

I've been reading your commentary here on how children.........CHILDREN.....can be witches. Now that definitely belongs in the dumpster, don't you think?

You're telling us here on NVS that if the appropriate Wo/Man of God tells you that your child or your neighbors child is a witch, that you would find it PLAUSIBLE, that for you, LizMoses, such a thing is actually within the realm of POSSIBILITY. :eek:

:lol::lol::lol:

So why are we surprised at African Xtians emulating Yahweh and Jesus, killing their children at the command of holy voices?

Why the surprise?

Why the hypocrisy?

I started a thread months ago pointing out this practice, CIkpatt was waxing indignant, pretending he didn't know this was NORMAL practice among African Xtians, particularly in Akwa Ibom.

Here we have you giving true voice to what we know in hour hearts to be true. :eek::eek::eek:

Thank you my sister.

Get Yours o jare!
Obugi.

Mikky jaga
Nov 28, 2008, 07:01 AM
MJ



We're not talking about a human judge here. We're talking about a God who knows exactly what will happen thousands of years in the future. An all-knowing God. Do you understand?

Let me put it simply.

God knows right now what I'll be eating for dinner on May 1, 2015.

So do I have any freewill to DECIDE what I'll be having for dinner on that day?

Obugi.

Obugi, it appears you have problems with the matter of freewill. God is not going to decide for you what you will eat for dinner. He therefore will not know what you will eat for dinner.

But we say God is all knowing? Yes, but by giving the power of freewill to His creatures, he has effectively denied himself of knowing what his creature will decide to do. That is one side effect of freewill for you. Fortunately, God decided to give it to humans knowing fully well He will be depriving Himself of part of His infinite powers.

Other effects of freewill are:

You can choose to believe in God or not

You can choose to go to hell or not

The power God has not relinquished to any other apart from His Son, Jesus is the power to judge humans on actions they decide to do so freely. You will read in the Bible that there are always alternatives:

The narrow way or the broad way
The way of life or the way of death
Heaven or hell

The repercussion of any of the choices is also made clear to everyone, with either God or his messengers advising you on which to choose. If, in exercising your freewill, you make the wrong chice, you face the consequence of that choice.

Of course, those who make it to hell will have the freewill to choose whether to weep or gnash their teeth.:rose:

Obugi
Nov 28, 2008, 03:12 PM
MJ,

I hope LizMoses is reading this and learning that it is possible to have a reasonable discussion once people decide to use their brain and be intellectually honest.

There's nothing to be scared of in confronting SIMPLE, ELEMENTARY contradictions that someone like me can see in Xtian doctrine. Fear is not the answer, enquiry is.


Obugi, it appears you have problems with the matter of freewill.

Just one of many, many question that I have. Unlike others, I've chosen not to just ignore them and do as my pastor says.....that's what lead to the infanticide that prompted this thread.


God is not going to decide for you what you will eat for dinner. He therefore will not know what you will eat for dinner.

But we say God is all knowing? Yes, but by giving the power of freewill to His creatures, he has effectively denied himself of knowing what his creature will decide to do. That is one side effect of freewill for you. Fortunately, God decided to give it to humans knowing fully well He will be depriving Himself of part of His infinite powers.

You've made quite a momentous declaration here that I think illustrates the contradictions of Xtian doctrine in the matter of freewill. I'm sure I remember passages where an infinite and complete knowledge of the future is attributed to Yahweh. Jesus himself denied knowledge of exactly when the end times would come, saying ONLY Yahweh was privy to that.

The core of the matter is this: To attribute to Yahweh complete and infinite knowledge of the future must necessarily NEGATE freewill.

To say human freewill exists means he isn't all knowing, which directly contradicts His own words in the Bible that He knows everything, including the future.

For example, he foretold the coming of Jesus and John the Baptist, he foretold the rise of Cyrus and Nebuchadnezzer, et c. How come Yahweh can't predict my actions on May 1 2015 and more importantly whether I will accept Xtianity or not and if I do accept it, on what date?



Other effects of freewill are:

You can choose to believe in God or not

You can choose to go to hell or not


Nope. God chose to create heaven and hell, he chose to make rules that would possibly send some of his children to go and BURN ETERNALLY in a furnace. The Jehovah witnesses have dispensed with this doctrine, makes sense to me. The merciful attributes of God lead me to believe he would NOT punish human beings in such a barbaric way.


The power God has not relinquished to any other apart from His Son, Jesus is the power to judge humans on actions they decide to do so freely. You will read in the Bible that there are always alternatives:

The narrow way or the broad way
The way of life or the way of death
Heaven or hell

The repercussion of any of the choices is also made clear to everyone, with either God or his messengers advising you on which to choose. If, in exercising your freewill, you make the wrong chice, you face the consequence of that choice.


Again there's the nagging matter of freewill. Did I choose or was it already ordained that is shall be so?


Of course, those who make it to hell will have the freewill to choose whether to weep or gnash their teeth.:rose: :clap:

I actually laughed out loud at that one, but Yahweh already knows what I'll be doing. I have no choice in the matter.

MJ, seriously..........I want to thank you for choosing to engage on the level of reason. Its annoying when you ask an Xtian a VERY SIMPLE question and they come up with stuff that makes them out as simply STUPID.

Take the issue of Yahweh killing the Amalekite infants, I can understand your take, but what's with something like.........

"God gave them sufficient warning before killing them....."

Or LizMoses and her endless exhortation to simply believe, don't ask questions or that the Old Testament doesn't belong to Xtianity.
I mean, it makes me literally cringe. What it makes clear is that most people just adopt their beliefs without examination, simply because they want to fit in.

I wish you and yours well. No matter our differences, I will always respect your courage to at least face up to reasonable questions in a non condescending and honest way.

! Get Yours !
Obugi.

Big-K
Nov 28, 2008, 04:42 PM
Hello everyone

I've been requested to clear the air on the 1500 donation. The amount is meant to meet immediate needs of the akwa-ibom kids - food, bedding, etc. This is different from other activities (christmas party) being planned for the akwa-ibom kids in December. Apologies if my earlier post appears confusing.

Auspicious
Nov 30, 2008, 05:46 AM
News Update from Akwa-Ibom..

Auspy.


http://www.ngrguardiannews.com/news/article03//images/gnlsection125.jpg

Akwa Ibom Govt To Close Churches, Prosecute Fake Pastors Over Child's Withcraft
Sunday, November 30, 2008 | LINK (http://www.ngrguardiannews.com/news/article03//indexn2_html?pdate=301108&ptitle=Akwa Ibom Govt To Close Churches, Prosecute Fake Pastors Over Child's Withcraft)

Akwa Ibom State government would soon close down mushroom churches and prosecute fake pastors, who are in the habit of stigmatizing children as witches and wizards.

Governor Godswill O. Akpabio announced this yesterday at the maiden Annual Teachers' Award for Excellence in Akwa Ibom State public schools sponsored by Inoyo Toro Foundation held at the Le Meridien Hotel and Golf Resort, Uyo.

Chief Akpabio expressed shock at the reckless abandonment of children labeled witches and wizards by their parents and guardians, saying this portends a dangerous signal to any society.

He attributed this ugly trend to activities of self-styled prophets who form the habit of deceiving and extorting money from innocent people on the pretext of exorcising demons from the suspected children thrown out into streets by their parents and guardians.

The state chief executive, however, warned the people against patronising churches on serious health matters needing medical attention, noting that this could result to avoidable deaths.

Meanwhile, an investigation committee has been put in place to look into issues surrounding the stigmatization of children as witches and wizards by some people for prosecution within the ambit of the law.

The State Commissioner for Information and Social Re-orientation, Aniekan Umanah said the Child's Rights Act is undergoing legal niceties preparatory for the Governor's assent.

Umanah advised public-spirited individuals and organisations to report perpetrators of this unfortunate trend to the security agencies, and government for arrest and prosecution.

Obugi
Nov 30, 2008, 07:04 PM
All,

Mark my words.

I pray I'm wrong, but nothing will come of this so-called govt effort.

Both the Gov and every relevant official believes in this Christian spiritualism or whatever it is. Most Nigerians do, that's why Nigeria is Nigeria.

Obugi.

No Smoking
Nov 30, 2008, 07:54 PM
We don't want to mark your words. We want you to do what you can, as a person to help the situation of the children.

Sign the petition, review what other contribution(s) you may add, have faith in the govt to do the right thing, even as now promised in the article above.

lateesha
Nov 30, 2008, 11:22 PM
Hello everyone

I've been requested to clear the air on the 1500 donation. The amount is meant to meet immediate needs of the akwa-ibom kids - food, bedding, etc. This is different from other activities (christmas party) being planned for the akwa-ibom kids in December. Apologies if my earlier post appears confusing.

God bless you big K and all the good people here.

Kenn
Dec 1, 2008, 12:58 AM
Hello everyone

I've been requested to clear the air on the 1500 donation. The amount is meant to meet immediate needs of the akwa-ibom kids - food, bedding, etc. This is different from other activities (christmas party) being planned for the akwa-ibom kids in December. Apologies if my earlier post appears confusing.


Big-K,

Pardon my confusion. Are you clarifying here that you and the Christmas Angels are no longer liaising with "emj and team" (The Nigerian Child Google group) anymore about how to send the money (as you earlier stated here) or are you clarifying what you and the Christmas Angels have now unilaterally decided to do with the $1, 500?

Anyone who goes to The Nigerian Child Google group or anyone who has received our invitation is aware that we are not only doing a Christmas party. What we are putting together is a long term strategy to properly look after those kids. We welcome your efforts to do your bit, but it needs to be clearly stated at this point that yours is a sole NVS decision which has nothing to do with The Nigerian Child Google group (considering what you'd said earlier), so that people get a better picture of who is doing what.

For us at The Nigerian Child Google group, as far as the kids get the help needed, no matter how they get it, we don't have a problem. But we need to put the record straight as we go along.



CHEERS!

Big-K
Dec 1, 2008, 02:58 AM
Big-K,

Pardon my confusion. Are you clarifying here that you and the Christmas Angels are no longer liaising with “emj and team” (The Nigerian Child Google group) anymore about how to send the money (as you earlier stated here) or are you clarifying what you and the Christmas Angels have now unilaterally decided to do with the $1, 500?

Anyone who goes to The Nigerian Child Google group or anyone who has received our invitation is aware that we are not only doing a Christmas party. What we are putting together is a long term strategy to properly look after those kids. We welcome your efforts to do your bit, but it needs to be clearly stated at this point that yours is a sole NVS decision which has nothing to do with The Nigerian Child Google group (considering what you’d said earlier), so that people get a better picture of who is doing what.

For us at The Nigerian Child Google group, as far as the kids get the help needed, no matter how they get it, we don’t have a problem. But we need to put the record straight as we go along.



CHEERS!

Hi Kenn,

I'm in touch with emj and, as earlier stated, the xmas angel team is donating 1500 to meet immediate needs of the kids. My intial question was whether this is better in cash or kind. For now, we think those immediate needs are foods and school materials and if we have any cash left, we'll donate to CRAHN. And as earlier stated, this donation does not preclude members from helping to meet medium-to-long term needs of the kids in any way they deem fit.

Knowing that the googlegroup have plans in the offing, we are not doing anything at this point beyond this immediate donation, but I'll prefer that those plans are made clear here on NVS as quickly as possible so that everyone is kept abreast of developments. I hope this is clear and I dont think we should at this point dwell on the hows but on the what.

Kenn
Dec 1, 2008, 03:46 AM
Big-K,

Thank you for your clarification. In terms of what The Nigerian Child Goggle group is doing, I have severally provided a link to the listserv; so, I expect anyone interested to go there and see. But by way of summary, what we are doing now is getting the group together in terms of membership and raising money for the Christmas party for the kids. The Christmas party we are planning for them is not just a Christmas party for kids in the traditional sense. We are trying to use the party to raise awareness within the nation, the state and the locality where these children are based. We hope to involve church leaders and policy makers and also to get the kids to put up a show that will emphasise their predicament, development, education and the general vision for their future.

As you know, it’s a working group and we are putting together a membership interested in working to achieve our aims and objectives. Also, as I pointed out earlier, it’s a long term thing and every member of The Nigerian Child Google group knows this to be the case. In this regard, we are also hoping to set up a website in the near future as a media base for our efforts and other incidental efforts that may emanate from here. As you know, Sam Ikpe-Itauma has already joined us there and he has indeed provided an estimate for the Christmas party which we are now working towards. Gary Foxcroft has also written to say for now he’s very busy, but that he would be joining up with us at the group soon. Perhaps, the best thing I can do here now is to provide a copy of our standard Invitation, which explains everything in some detail:


Dear Friend,

INVITATION TO JOIN 'THE NIGERIAN CHILD' GROUP AND SAY "NO!" TO EVIL

At 9.00 pm on Wednesday, 12th of November, 2008, Channel 4 Television in the United Kingdom broadcasted a programme titled, Saving Africa's Witch Children. Below is a link to the show if you missed it:

http://www.channel4.com/video/brandless-catchup.jsp?vodBrand=saving-africas-witch-children

If you cannot access the above link, here are some clips of the programme on YouTube:

[ame]http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=EUJSME0TORw&feature=related


[ame]http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=u7C8Znyf510&feature=related


[ame]http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=wE8epBkSPfo&feature=related


[ame]http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=NYG-h1avVrc&feature=related


[ame]http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=0nH8ZJbJ9lY&feature=related


[ame]http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=BXUKF8dHf4A&feature=related


As you can see, it's a gripping tale of blood-curdling cruelty and depravity from Akwa Ibom State, Nigeria. Gary Foxcroft, Sam Ikpe-Itauma, his wife Elizabeth and their team are today exposing what is going on in that part of Nigeria, but who knows what is going on elsewhere within the nation? Who knows how many of those types of scenes captured in that programme are being replicated elsewhere in Nigeria, with everyone that matters conveniently looking the other way while this wickedness comfortably devours our young ones? Why are we all pretending to be marching to the beat of the 21st century when we cannot hold a candle to the Middle Ages?

Yes, most of us are Africans and we do know how prevalent the belief in witchcraft is throughout the continent. Thus, there's no use going into a debate with anyone on whether or not witches exist as we do appreciate that people are entitled to believe whatever they want to believe. However, the question we should be addressing is whether a belief in witchcraft gives people the excuse to commit these gruesome acts of child abuse. In other words, should the freedom to believe in witchcraft be allowed to impinge on the right to life and human dignity of others, especially where these others are vulnerable little kids? Should the fact that a self-proclaimed pastor, prophet or prophetess declares a child a witch or wizard simply be accepted as the gospel truth to the extent that such a child is tortured, starved, ostracized from his/her family and community or even killed? Are we to condone this surreptitiously-induced, but seemingly self-inflicted destruction of families? Are we to accept what is essentially a criminal erosion of communal trust in the name of witch-hunting? Of course, not only Africans believe in witchcraft, but other such witchcraft-believing cultures have not made their children scapegoats. Throughout the mad days of witch-hunting and witch-burning in Europe and America, no genius came up with the idea of targeting children!

If these prophets and prophetesses are true followers of Christ, then they ought to follow his example. Christ asked that little children should be allowed to come to him, because theirs is the Kingdom of Heaven! There may well have been children considered evil amongst those Christ embraced, but he did not judge them. He did not say, "You naughty little bastard, get out of my sight!" Why, because he recognizes that anyone who is part of the Kingdom of Heaven cannot be an instrument of the devil! And yes, if the devil manages to use them as his vessel of evil, anyone doing God's work definitely ought to know that they can only be regarded as victims and not to be treated as perpetrators. Indeed, Christ made it clear that anyone who leads little children into sin is better off putting a millstone around his neck and drowning in the sea. The implication of such a statement is that the sin is that of the adult who makes the kid sin and not the kid's. When Christ cast out demons, he did not condemn those he cured to loneliness, vagrancy or death; rather, he reunited them with their loved ones and decent society, restoring personal and communal trust in these people.

Really, if only those who believe these false prophets and prophetesses can honestly ask themselves some basic questions, they may well save themselves from the mental slavery they are in. Why are they still poor, sick, joyless and spiritually bereft of any sign of fulfillment long after they've banished these so-called little witches and wizards from their lives? What so far has been the value of all the witch-hunting exercises done by these prophets and prophetesses and why is it that up till now Africa is still as backward and underdeveloped as it is despite their tireless work? Why does evil still stalk the land unchallenged in Nigeria where there are more churches per square feet than anywhere else on earth? Isn't it pathetic watching fathers, mothers and relations gleefully hand over their own children to perfect strangers for fear of what they think these children are? Are these children the reasons those politicians loot us blind? Are they the reasons the roads are not tarred or maintained? Are they the reasons teachers are not paid, why kids are not in school and why the economy has gone pear-shaped? Are these children the causes of social decadence, armed-robbery, political assassinations, unemployment and senseless wars?

For those who still seek reasons for our perpetual state of underdevelopment and underachievement, the answer stares them in the face right here. The answer is in the fear in Mary's eyes, sucked of all expression of happiness – a child deprived of her inalienable right to joyfulness because of the warped thinking of people who should love and protect her. Mary looked unkempt, unwashed, uncared-for, serially-tortured and unloved at the age of five! "Do you believe you are a witch?" she was asked and grimly and innocently, she nodded "Yes". While the beasts who've dehumanized her may read that as a full public confession to her witchery, the simple truth is she did not know what else to say because that is what they've accusatorily drilled into her thin skull – the idea that she is not a good child, that she is a witch who'd killed her mother and run her father out of town! In a serially destructive process, they created the idea of a witch in her head and now she accepts it as true, even when all they talk about obviously sounds like Greek to her!

Yet, it does not take much to figure out that Mary is an intelligent and smart girl – attributes that should have been nurtured, but now interpreted as witchcraft. Imagine the answer she gave when she was asked what she wishes them to do for her. You would think that a child who'd been put through such hell would naturally ask for food, for clothes or material things and all that, but all she said she wanted was to go to school! Why, because she has been made to grow beyond her years by suffering. Her intelligence makes her see beyond her suffering as, even from the mean streets that was her home, she studied other children going to school, seeing as they walk past her daily the happiness and freedom education can deliver. Unlike her ignorant parents and relations, Mary knows that education is the only thing that can take her away from the hole that she's in. Out of the mouth of babes and suckling, wisdom cometh forth!

Dear friend, you need to join us at The Nigerian Child Google group to see what we can do together to influence some positive change. In talking with Gary Foxcroft and Sam Ikpe-Itauma, the men who are in the forefront of helping these kids, we've been made to understand the challenges they face. These challenges range from lack of structured and sustained support from the government, continued activities of the rogue fringe of the Christian church perpetuating this belief and practice of child abuse, general lack of awareness and the need for funds and materials for the continued upkeep of the children. In order to tackle these challenges, we feel that we can only make a difference by establishing an organization of interested and committed persons. It is okay to feel the indignation after watching the Channel 4 programme; but it's more important to be part of the solution. With The Nigerian Child Google group, we are trying to build an organization of Nigerians and well-wishers of Nigeria committed to helping with ideas and actions on how to solve this problem.

We need your ideas and contributions. We are still welcoming members and are waiting to get a critical mass before we begin to fully discuss the whole vision. Nonetheless, we have committed ourselves to one immediate project and we are hoping you will also want to be part of this. The Nigerian Child Google group is sponsoring a Christmas party for the kids at the Child's Rights And Rehabilitation Network (CRARN) centre. Of course, we recognize that there are so many serious things to do, but we feel that while we sit to discuss these and put machinery in place to tackle the issues, it is also important in the meantime to send a message to the children and the nation that there are people out here who love them and who think the world of them. Christmas is a good opportunity to put a little cheer on their little faces. The Christmas programme and what it entails is presently the subject of discussion on the listserv.

If anyone is concerned about the authenticity of this group, please go to the listserv and see that Mr Sam Ikpe-Itauma, the man who courageously began this crusade, the man who got it all started with his charity, the Child's Rights And Rehabilitation Network (CRARN) is there as part of the group. He, his wife and a team of volunteers are the ones taking care of the children day in, day out. We are inviting you to join those fighting the real darkness being perpetrated by those who feed fat on the superstition of our people – those heartlessly stigmatizing vulnerable little kids who cannot fight back and who are doing so with the backing of ignorant parents milked of their last cash and forced to borrow to pay false prophets and prophetesses for the pleasure of destroying their own homes and communities! This tongue-tying evil will not go away if people like you look the other way. It won't go away if you ignore this invitation. It won't go away by you merely going to church on Sunday or to mosque on Friday to pray for these kids. You must make yourself a direct instrument of God in their lives. We have opened this Google listserv as a working forum; join us there to effect the change we need. Join us to bring down the shameful wall of Jericho around these children.

If you are interested, all you need to do is open the link below, click the "Join this group" link at the right hand side of the page and follow the instructions:

http://groups.google.com/group/thenigerianchild?hl=en&pli=1

We look forward to the pleasure of your company.


Yours faithfully,
XXXX
(For and on behalf of The Nigerian Child Google Group)

NB: We have now registered a website (nigerianchild.org) which shall become fully operational in a couple of weeks. We intend to use it as a media and information outlet for dealing with children, youth development, maternal health and other related issues as they concern our country, Nigeria.

Big-K
Dec 1, 2008, 03:52 AM
Thanks Kenn. Please continue to keep us abreast of activities of the nigerianchild initiative.

Cheers

Kenn
Dec 1, 2008, 04:04 AM
Thanks Kenn. Please continue to keep us abreast of activities of the nigerianchild initiative.

Cheers

Absolutely! Let's all continue to do what we can. Good will prevail here once we continue to stand firm. We must use those children as a point of contact with other dark parts of our nation. It's huge work, but Rome was not built in a day!

CHEERS AND STAY BLESSED!

lateesha
Dec 1, 2008, 03:44 PM
why are people modifying my posts?
what type of al queda is this that I must be strapped in a windowless burqua
This is abuse o

emj
Dec 1, 2008, 04:44 PM
Thanks Kenn. Please continue to keep us abreast of activities of the nigerianchild initiative.

Cheers

Eherm, double eherm...okay guys, da 2 both of you see me in da Penthouse:eek::arrow:

@Lateesha, are you now in Purdah? Confirm Quick/Fast:cool:


PS>>......yes there's a lot going on right now...we are in the month of December and hope to tidy up plans for the Xmas Party and Cheer within the next 2weeks.......for more details take a look at Kenn1's very short post and of course visit the Google Group...thanks:arrow:

Kenn
Dec 2, 2008, 12:00 PM
Below is a heart-warming statement to the media from the Akwa Ibom Commissioner of Information, Aniekan Umanah. Mr Umanah is the head of a Committee set up by Governor Godswill Akpabio to look into the Child witchcraft issue. He was at the CRARN centre in October as part of his Committee's work.


'Child witches' and the Akwa Ibom Govt

SIR: On the orders of Governor Godswill Akpabio, the Police in Akwa Ibom State on November 29 at about 2 p.m. moved swiftly to Mbo Local Government Area for the search and arrest of one Bishop Sunday Ulup-Aya who stated his involvement in this matter in a documentary broadcast on Channel 4 and placed on several websites.

The said Bishop who claimed he had "killed" several children was successfully apprehended with an accomplice and are at present in detention on a holden charge from where he will face criminal prosecution this week. In view of the above, Government will not hesitate to effect further arrests and prosecutions of organisations, individuals or even parents who are involved in child abuse and labelling children as 'witches'. Already one Rev. Onuoha operating from Oron and fingered in the child stigmatisation saga has been arrested by the police for questioning.

At the arrest of the self-styled bishop, about three children were discharged from illegal custody and immediately given government support. They appear normal and healthy. Also the state government has ordered full investigation into the child abuse issue. This will help government fashion out ways of tackling the social problem head-on.

The Governor plans to assent to the Child Rights Act in December, a law that will be fully implemented for the protection of Akwa Ibom children irrespective of economic background.

Consequently, Government takes a stand on the matter and is set to deal very decisively and in accordance with the rule of law and due process as follows:

• Place full legislative machinery against labelling of children as witches;

• Advance high-powered investigation into every element of the issues involved and all allegations against persons involved in stigmatisation of children as witches;

• Prosecute all persons found culpable of this crime of child labelling;

• Deploy social resources for the support, comfort and enjoyment of all categories of children all over the state;

• Possibility of closure of every organisation involved in this evil stigmatisation of children.

Government will not spare any culprit involved.


Aniekan Umanah,
Commissioner for Information,
Akwa Ibom State

UncleTisha
Dec 2, 2008, 12:06 PM
Oi, Kenn1!

:source

.................................................. .................................................. ...


Heart-warming development i would say. Thanks to everyone working on this matter.

Cheers!

WaleAkin
Dec 2, 2008, 12:35 PM
YES!!!!:hail::hail:

Mikky jaga
Dec 2, 2008, 01:06 PM
for more details take a look at Kenn1's very short post

You are quite right!!

His very short posts, tough very few indeed, are always worthy of consideration. The long ones? Oh my Gawd, I wonder what to do with them!!:1love:

walesoje1
Dec 2, 2008, 04:10 PM
This is really terrifying. I was opportuned to watch only the concluding part of this horrible story on ITV in UK.

We are all Africans and sincerely speaking according to our religion and beliefs, there are witches but what does the bible say to us about all these spirits? It says cast out... The bible never said beat someone with an unfamiliar spirit or do all sort.

As a matter of fact I was in Festival of Life congress by Redeemed Christian Church of God which was held at Excel Exhibition Centre and too many European Pastors believes so much in African Pastors because of our so-called beliefs. About two of them made it known that the future of Europe religiously, lies in the hands of Africans. As it is I now ask myself the question, can we help these people when we have not helped ourselves? What kind of image are these people portraying?

Was it not said that Child Abuse Act has been passed in Nigeria? Do we have government in Nigeria at all? I guess there are outrightly too many questions to ask. Does our police uphold laws?

I give kudos to everyone who has posted something about helping the children now and it is a welcomed idea but may I remind us all that eventhough we are trying to save lives what we have done is only to cut the tree branches? Who knows where such other attrocities are been committed?

Imagine one of those pastors saying there are about 2.4million witches in Akwa Ibom which has only a population of 3.9million people. Statistically, 2 out of every 3 people in Akwa Ibom is a witch. I bet he has families too and if they are 10 in number right about 7 of them would be witches. What has he done about that? Why are they concentrating on the children only? Is it because they are defenseless? God is their refuge.

I guess awareness matters too. Most of these brainwashed people who believe so much in these pastors should be in their bibles too to know that salvation is free. How come most of them cannot eat but can afford to pay huge amount of money like that to pastors thereby enriching their pursues?

Jesus never casted any spirit or demon out of anyone by beating or through any physical means. The other lecture at the Festival of Life conference also addresses a siliar issue in which it was even addressed that anyone with any unfamiliar spirit need not to be asked any question but delivered. If truly God has ordained all these pastors they should cast out demon and spirits in no time. Was it not said in the bible that in Jesus name every knee shall bow and all tongue shall confess?

I think what is required mostly is to give all these kids a life but at the same time give all families awareness about the occurences happening around the world. There are witches everywhere. Check www.witchfestival.com and see how it is publicly advertised in New York.

Please let us all make people aware. Enough is enough.

+ I believe many people need to be inflicted with barreness to know value of children. It's only that men cannot be God. If I were to be him, everyone who has a hand in this would definitely suffer.

tengallons
Dec 2, 2008, 04:44 PM
Below is a heart-warming statement to the media from the Akwa Ibom Commissioner of Information, Aniekan Umanah. Mr Umanah is the head of a Committee set up by Governor Godswill Akpabio to look into the Child witchcraft issue. He was at the CRARN centre in October as part of his Committee's work.


'Child witches' and the Akwa Ibom Govt

SIR: On the orders of Governor Godswill Akpabio, the Police in Akwa Ibom State on November 29 at about 2 p.m. moved swiftly to Mbo Local Government Area for the search and arrest of one Bishop Sunday Ulup-Aya who stated his involvement in this matter in a documentary broadcast on Channel 4 and placed on several websites.

The said Bishop who claimed he had "killed" several children was successfully apprehended with an accomplice and are at present in detention on a holden charge from where he will face criminal prosecution this week. In view of the above, Government will not hesitate to effect further arrests and prosecutions of organisations, individuals or even parents who are involved in child abuse and labelling children as 'witches'. Already one Rev. Onuoha operating from Oron and fingered in the child stigmatisation saga has been arrested by the police for questioning.

At the arrest of the self-styled bishop, about three children were discharged from illegal custody and immediately given government support. They appear normal and healthy. Also the state government has ordered full investigation into the child abuse issue. This will help government fashion out ways of tackling the social problem head-on.

The Governor plans to assent to the Child Rights Act in December, a law that will be fully implemented for the protection of Akwa Ibom children irrespective of economic background.

Consequently, Government takes a stand on the matter and is set to deal very decisively and in accordance with the rule of law and due process as follows:

• Place full legislative machinery against labelling of children as witches;

• Advance high-powered investigation into every element of the issues involved and all allegations against persons involved in stigmatisation of children as witches;

• Prosecute all persons found culpable of this crime of child labelling;

• Deploy social resources for the support, comfort and enjoyment of all categories of children all over the state;

• Possibility of closure of every organisation involved in this evil stigmatisation of children.

Government will not spare any culprit involved.


Aniekan Umanah,
Commissioner for Information,
Akwa Ibom State


Good news. Thanks to the outing of this practice and the accompanying outrage, some progress has begun. If found guilty -- especially of killing over a hundred people -- the pastor's property should be sold with the proceeds going to the current and dead victims' families. A strong message needs to be sent here.

Kenn
Dec 2, 2008, 05:03 PM
Between 3.45 pm and 4.10 pm today (London time), I spoke to Mr Aniekan Umanah, the Honourable Commissioner for Information, Akwa Ibom State on matters relating to the child witchcraft issue and what the state government is doing about it. I told him we have read the statement issued by the government pertaining to the arrests of Bishop Sunday Ulup-Aya and Rev Onuoha and government’s stated determination to use investigative, legislative and judicial processes to arrest the untoward development. I expressed our support for government’s action and thanked him and the government for what has been done so far. I pointed out that we have noted that the last point in his media statement talked about “possibility of closure of every organization involved in this stigmatization of children” and that this does not strike me personally as strong enough as every organization so involved must, after confirmation through investigation, be closed down. I said we are not talking mere possibility, but certainty.

The Hon Commissioner said government is determined to use the full force of the law to effect such closures once investigation reveals the involvement of any such organizations. He said government would want to work with The Nigerian Child group and other organizations involved in helping the kids, pointing out however that government is wary of organizations that may want to use the kids’ plight to line their pockets or engage in other activities not in the interest of the kids. I assured him that our organization is committed to helping the children of Child’s Rights And Rehabilitation Network (CRARN) and that Mr Sam Ikpe-Itauma, the Founder of CRARN and the man living with and taking care of the kids is a member of our group.

Mr Aniekan, who is the head of a state government committee set up to look into the issue of child abuse, had visited the CRARN centre in October. I thanked him for this and asked that he keeps his diary open for the December date for the children’s Christmas party being sponsored by The Nigerian Child group.

The Honourable Commissioner thanked The Nigerian Child group for our efforts. He asked that I send him an email stating exactly what we are doing and how we want to collaborate with the government on the issue. He reiterated government’s commitment to rid the state of these types of practices and also its willingness to listen to advice and suggestions from groups such as The Nigerian Child group on this matter. I thanked him for taking the time to talk with me and promised we will get back to him and the government soon.

WaleAkin
Dec 2, 2008, 05:27 PM
Thanks Kenn1 and keep the flag flying!

valteena
Dec 2, 2008, 06:13 PM
Kudos Kenn :shake:.

emj
Dec 2, 2008, 07:07 PM
Kenn1, na you Biko...da Commisioner will not forget the Discussion he had with you in a hurry walahi....good news anywaz...Both the Governor and The commisioner, and indeed Akwa Ibom Indigenes and friends seems to be on top of things.


PS>>.Back into the Bunker...few weeks/days to go...all hands on Deck:arrow:

VOR
Dec 2, 2008, 08:33 PM
Good one Kenn.

Countess, you still dey here, you Valteena and Walata.....plenty work dey o..oya! :lol:

Veros
Dec 3, 2008, 01:17 AM
Below is a heart-warming statement to the media from the Akwa Ibom Commissioner of Information, Aniekan Umanah. Mr Umanah is the head of a Committee set up by Governor Godswill Akpabio to look into the Child witchcraft issue. He was at the CRARN centre in October as part of his Committee's work.


'Child witches' and the Akwa Ibom Govt

SIR: On the orders of Governor Godswill Akpabio, the Police in Akwa Ibom State on November 29 at about 2 p.m. moved swiftly to Mbo Local Government Area for the search and arrest of one Bishop Sunday Ulup-Aya who stated his involvement in this matter in a documentary broadcast on Channel 4 and placed on several websites.

The said Bishop who claimed he had "killed" several children was successfully apprehended with an accomplice and are at present in detention on a holden charge from where he will face criminal prosecution this week. In view of the above, Government will not hesitate to effect further arrests and prosecutions of organisations, individuals or even parents who are involved in child abuse and labelling children as 'witches'. Already one Rev. Onuoha operating from Oron and fingered in the child stigmatisation saga has been arrested by the police for questioning.

At the arrest of the self-styled bishop, about three children were discharged from illegal custody and immediately given government support. They appear normal and healthy. Also the state government has ordered full investigation into the child abuse issue. This will help government fashion out ways of tackling the social problem head-on.

The Governor plans to assent to the Child Rights Act in December, a law that will be fully implemented for the protection of Akwa Ibom children irrespective of economic background.

Consequently, Government takes a stand on the matter and is set to deal very decisively and in accordance with the rule of law and due process as follows:

• Place full legislative machinery against labelling of children as witches;

• Advance high-powered investigation into every element of the issues involved and all allegations against persons involved in stigmatisation of children as witches;

• Prosecute all persons found culpable of this crime of child labelling;

• Deploy social resources for the support, comfort and enjoyment of all categories of children all over the state;

• Possibility of closure of every organisation involved in this evil stigmatisation of children.

Government will not spare any culprit involved.


Aniekan Umanah,
Commissioner for Information,
Akwa Ibom State


Mr. Umanah is trying to do his job as the commissioner of information in Akwa Ibom state by writing the above to alert the public and whoever cares to know that the governor and government of Akwa Ibom state are living up to expectations. While this may seem a proper course of action it beggars belief to say the least that it took the "investigative journalism" of a foreigner to uncover these horrendous crimes on innocent children in the first place.

The said pastor was arrested only last week (on the 29th of November) more than 2 weeks after the programme was aired in the UK. It took the governor's orders to effect this. Why the police need to be "ordered" to do their job is still not very clear.

Well, it looks like something is being done; we await the result of the investigation and hopefully prosecution of the indicted individuals.

Kenn
Dec 3, 2008, 05:28 AM
http://www.ngrguardiannews.com/ibru_center/article14//indexn3_html?pdate=301108&ptitle=In%20God's%20Name&cpdate=301108

Ajibs
Dec 4, 2008, 02:11 PM
Nigeria 'child witch killer' held

Campaigners are looking after 170 children accused of being witches
Police in south-east Nigeria have arrested a man who claimed to have killed 110 child "witches".

"Bishop" Sunday Ulup-Aya told a documentary film team he "delivered" children from demonic possession.

But after his arrest, he reportedly told the police he had only killed the "witches" inside, not the children.

Child rights campaigners say children are frequently abandoned, hideously injured and even murdered because their families believe they are witches.

Self-proclaimed "pastors" extort money from families to exorcise the children, but none has been charged until now.

Mr Ulup-Aya was arrested in Akwa Ibom State after a child rights campaigner led police to his church and negotiated a consultation fee for an exorcism.

He has now been charged with murder.

Five others have been arrested since the weekend and the state government says more arrests are planned

Belief in witches

"So many people here believe that children can be possessed by demons that there is rarely any action taken against those who claim to deliver the children in violent exorcisms," says Sam Ikpe-Itauma, of the Child Rights and Rehabilitation Network (CRARN). He concluded the child was a witch and had placed a curse on him, so he took him on his bicycle to the river and threw him in

Sam Ikpe-Itauma
He says he has been working for six years to bring the attention of the state government to the children being abandoned, sold to traffickers, or murdered, but it was not until a documentary team from the UK showed the film last month that an arrest was made.

His organisation looks after 170 children who have been abandoned or abused after being accused of being witches.

Akwa Ibom State spokesman Aniekan Umanah denied they had been embarrassed into acting.

"Nobody knew about him, he lives in a very remote village," he said.

The state has cared for child victims of abuse, but has not been able to track down abusers because of "lack of documentation", he said.

'Misunderstanding'

Mr Ulup-Aya reportedly told police he had not actually killed children.

He said there was a misunderstanding - he meant he had killed the witch inside the child, not the child themselves.

When police raided his house they found two children inside, but no evidence that any others had been murdered there.

"We have him on tape admitting to killing," said Mr Umanah.

"It is now up to him to prove otherwise."

In the past other "pastors" who claim to have the power to deliver children from demonic possession in violent exorcisms have been arrested, but then quietly released by the police, according to Mr Ikpe-Itauma.

"I fear for my life now," he says.

Trafficking

Children in Akwa Ibom are blamed for all kinds of misfortune that befalls their families.

They are abandoned or sold to child traffickers who then indenture them into house slaves in other parts of Nigeria or into prostitution.

Others are violently exorcised to rid the child of the "demons".

Exorcism victims seen by CRARN in the past include a child who had nails driven into his head.

Earlier this week Mr Ikpe-Itauma said a six-year-old child was brought to their rescue centre after clambering out of a fast-flowing river.

"The boy's uncle was experiencing painful swelling in his legs," Mr Ikpe-Itauma told the BBC.

"He concluded the child was a witch and had placed a curse on him, so he took him on his bicycle to the river and threw him in."

Note the statement in bold above. Knowing that this is a money spinning venture for some of these crazy pastors, we may need to start thinking of police protection / private protection for Sam, his family and the kids in that compound, with the media attention this is getting and the arrests taking place which is great to see and long overdue, we should not forget that there are now disgrunted elements out there, pastors who are now on the run, others who will see their fortunes decline, even some parents / townsfolk who continue to be in deception. I think this needs to be considered now rather than later. Maybe we should appeal to the Comissioner to set up a police post outside the center. I know, that could be good or bad.

Bunch17
Dec 4, 2008, 03:08 PM
http://www.ngrguardiannews.com/ibru_center/article14//indexn3_html?pdate=301108&ptitle=In%20God's%20Name&cpdate=301108


:hail::hail::hail::hail::hail:

emj
Dec 4, 2008, 05:10 PM
Note the statement in bold above. Knowing that this is a money spinning venture for some of these crazy pastors, we may need to start thinking of police protection / private protection for Sam, his family and the kids in that compound, with the media attention this is getting and the arrests taking place which is great to see and long overdue, we should not forget that there are now disgrunted elements out there, pastors who are now on the run, others who will see their fortunes decline, even some parents / townsfolk who continue to be in deception. I think this needs to be considered now rather than later. Maybe we should appeal to the Comissioner to set up a police post outside the center. I know, that could be good or bad.

You are so right about that..Sam had made mention of subtle threats in the past....and i believe it might be more real now than before.....:eek:

Looks like the bishop who confessed on camera that he killed some people has now changed his confession to mean that it was the W spirits that he Killed....must have been using that to advertise his prowess...but when the Become comes to Become...he had to change his tune...No Longer At Ease...chei:arrow:

PS>....Bunch17 stop jumping up and down..lol.
Kenn1 o gbayi o......Keno from London..Nice goings and doings ojare...Take a Bow....:)

VOR
Dec 4, 2008, 07:24 PM
I find it rather amusing how prophet Ulup-Aya changed his story after being thrown in jail! Shebi he was boasting during the interview, owo ti te ni sin (he has been caught) he is singing another tune, oniranu.
I agree with the Commissioner, let him prove that he did not kill 110 children, Mr. Demon killer!

N.A.R.
Kenn and I actually discussed this earlier today. We will ask Sam to request police protection for them at the refuge and will follow it up with a request to the Commissioner.

Mikky jaga
Dec 5, 2008, 06:36 AM
I must confess (though not as a witch:D) that I did not, initially, read Kenn 1's write up in the Guardian Newspaper. But, seeing Bunch 17, jumping up and down as if he just won a lottery, I decided to check up the link.

At the end of reading the write up, I wanted to dash Kenn 1 a well deserved Thank you, but I stopped short of that having realised that there may be a mistake in some people's mind as to who was changing his stance, considering the altercation between Kenn 1 and myself on this same thread.

Having read through his write up, I have now come to the charitable conclusion that he misunderstood what I was all about initially, and that informed his initial reply to mine.

With that in mind I give Kenn1, his well deserved Thank You for what he wrote in Guardian. I jump up twice also for that:hail::hail:

Ewuro
Dec 5, 2008, 09:11 AM
I must confess (though not as a witch:D) that I did not, initially, read Kenn 1's write up in the Guardian Newspaper. But, seeing Bunch 17, jumping up and down as if he just won a lottery, I decided to check up the link.

At the end of reading the write up, I wanted to dash Kenn 1 a well deserved Thank you, but I stopped short of that having realised that there may be a mistake in some people's mind as to who was changing his stance, considering the altercation between Kenn 1 and myself on this same thread.

Having read through his write up, I have now come to the charitable conclusion that he misunderstood what I was all about initially, and that informed his initial reply to mine.

With that in mind I give Kenn1, his well deserved Thank You for what he wrote in Guardian. I jump up twice also for that:hail::hail:

If you are not cofessing as a witch, you must be doing so as a winch

emj
Dec 5, 2008, 10:33 AM
I must confess (though not as a witch:D) that I did not, initially, read Kenn 1's write up in the Guardian Newspaper. But, seeing Bunch 17, jumping up and down as if he just won a lottery, I decided to check up the link.

At the end of reading the write up, I wanted to dash Kenn 1 a well deserved Thank you, but I stopped short of that having realised that there may be a mistake in some people's mind as to who was changing his stance, considering the altercation between Kenn 1 and myself on this same thread.

Having read through his write up, I have now come to the charitable conclusion that he misunderstood what I was all about initially, and that informed his initial reply to mine.

With that in mind I give Kenn1, his well deserved Thank You for what he wrote in Guardian. I jump up twice also for that:hail::hail:

:lol::lol::lol::lol:i Yam/am flabberwhelmed...cheerios:biggrin::biggrin:

VOR
Dec 5, 2008, 11:33 AM
:lol::lol::lol::lol:i Yam/am flabberwhelmed...cheerios:biggrin::biggrin:

ze fower of fraya :lol::lol::hail:

Kenn
Dec 5, 2008, 10:15 PM
I must confess (though not as a witch:D) that I did not, initially, read Kenn 1's write up in the Guardian Newspaper. But, seeing Bunch 17, jumping up and down as if he just won a lottery, I decided to check up the link.

At the end of reading the write up, I wanted to dash Kenn 1 a well deserved Thank you, but I stopped short of that having realised that there may be a mistake in some people's mind as to who was changing his stance, considering the altercation between Kenn 1 and myself on this same thread.

Having read through his write up, I have now come to the charitable conclusion that he misunderstood what I was all about initially, and that informed his initial reply to mine.

With that in mind I give Kenn1, his well deserved Thank You for what he wrote in Guardian. I jump up twice also for that:hail::hail:

I have no idea what this man is on about...:D

Kenn
Dec 5, 2008, 10:25 PM
Between 7.45 pm and 9.30 pm (London time) on Thursday, 4th of December, 2008, I spoke with Okenikpoto (Ahaoma Kanu) and Sam Ikpe-Itauma separately in Nigeria. Okenikpoto is a Lagos-based journalist and one of those rare Nigerians who would go to any length for a good cause. He's a member of the Nigerian Child group and as part of our fact-finding mission he visited Sam and the kids in Akwa Ibom between Tuesday 2nd of December and Wednesday, 3rd of December. His mandate was to go there, meet the kids, look around and bring us specific information relating to the kids' condition. The idea is to begin to build a data-base of information about these kids for our future programmes. Okenikpoto returned to Lagos on Wednesday. He will write his report and it shall be posted once he's done so.

While we await the detailed report, Okenikpoto provided me with a general idea of what he saw. Okenikpoto says Sam and his team are encountering huge challenges in running the place – challenges ranging from financial and human resource limitations to those relating to the condition of the camp, their not-so-good feeding, poor and near non-existent healthcare and educational facilities, lack of social integration, challenges of the physical environment and so on. These, of course, are some of the things we hope to tackle in the long run. At any rate, as I said, Okenikpoto will be writing his report soon. We shall be considering it in detail when we get it.

I spoke to Sam wanting to get information on what is going on there on the ground with regard to government and police action and his role in the arrests being presently made. Sam says he's been very instrumental in the arrests. He has been working closely with the police to locate and apprehend some of the culprits. Sam is happy that the government and the police are doing something, but like the rest of us, he hopes there will be proper prosecution and punishment for those found guilty. Sam says there is presently some collaboration between the government, Akwa Ibom police command and their Cross Rivers State counterpart to get Helen Ukpabio, the General Overseer of Liberty Foundation Gospel Ministries questioned over this matter.

The British Broadcasting Corporation (BBC) conducted an interview with him by telephone earlier in the day. They asked him about the arrests, how they happened, how many children are at the centre and so on. Part of that interview was used in the BBC report of the same day. The link is provided below:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/7764575.stm

By the time I was speaking to Sam yesterday, another 6 children were brought into the centre. These were children released from a child trafficking syndicate in Aba being run by one Reverend Dr Joy Igwueze who is now on the run. Reverend Sam Excellent Onuoha who was earlier arrested in Oron is believed to be the Akwa Ibom coordinator for the syndicate. The operational mode of the syndicate is said to be through the Joy Igwueze-led Peace Sisters, which is organized like a church. They then registered a supposed charity known as the Abandoned Children Ministry, which they use to trap the children. The six children who were brought to the Centre all had on the white vests of the Peace Sisters, but they've all had their names changed and made to adopt new names like Jennifer, Precious, Esther and so on. Though Sam isn't sure all the people who work for the Peace Sisters are aware of the sinister aspect championed by the leadership of the organization, but it's quite clear that they've been at the heart of child trafficking in the region for a long time.

There are two other related issues I discussed with Sam, one was almost hilarious (but for the seriousness of the issue), the other a much more straightforward sober stuff. The near-hilarious one is hereby introducing you to "Sam, the Deliverer"! For a combination of reasons, some less informed members of the Akwa Ibom community in the grip of the child witchcraft superstition who have been hearing of Sam's Centre have concluded that the Centre is a church that ‘delivers' children possessed by witchcraft. So, parents call up Sam to bring their "witch" children to be delivered. Originally, Sam was in a dilemma. He didn't want parents to believe these things, but at the same time he felt he had to keep his doors open to save kids in danger, because any kid already stigmatized that way is clearly in danger. Sam painted a scary picture of the Oron area, pointing out that incidences of child murders over allegations of witchcraft are rampant, but mostly unreported and therefore never investigated. There's a general feeling that these murders do not lead to arrests or charges because "police and court know nothing about witchcraft". Thus, what happened to Kingsley Edet in Oron is actually a more common phenomenon!

For instance, Sam talked about the father who brought his five children to the centre and who claimed to have brought them out of "pity". The man painted a grim picture of what has happened to him – the loss of his car, the breakdown of his generator and so on and so forth, claiming these children are the causes and that they have ruined him. He said the next best thing to killing them was bringing them to Sam. The man said he had even "donated" his 10-month old child to the Peace Sisters (the child is about 18 months now. Sam has noted this and would be informing the authorities immediately). The man was neither regretful of this nor concerned that he was giving up his five children. Indeed, he was acting relieved, because he thought he was bringing the children to Sam for "deliverance". Sam says the man is in his late sixties and had earlier brought two children to be "delivered".

Sam says the way he deals with cases like these is to play along. Once the children are collected, he and his volunteers would promise to "deliver" them as requested by the parents. Sam says these are the lucky ones. But due to the fact that a high level of indoctrination and duress are usually applied by the churches and the fake prophets and prophetesses supposedly healing them to admit that they are witches, they arrive at the Centre in a very bad psychological state. The kids would usually be thoroughly beaten and tortured to accept that they are witches. They would then be cajoled into believing that they could have witchcraft without knowing it, but that until they accept they are witches, Jesus Christ isn't going to heal them and bring them good things of life, like he has brought to them the pastors, prophets and prophetesses. So, the kids readily accept they are witches over time and they are then made to rehearse this "acceptance" over and over until it becomes their default and standard answer to the question: "Are you a witch?" They are made to rehearse the "evils" they have done along these lines and their thoroughly fleeced parents are then brought in to hear these gory, but contrived "confessions". For the kids, they are doing it to be healed by Christ; for their ignorant parents, it is confirmation of their witchery and a testimony to the prophet or prophetess's unique gift and powers.

Sam says once the parents leave, he and his volunteers would then ask the child if he or she is a witch. Once they get the expected response, they will then ask the child why he or she thinks he or she is a wizard or witch. They usually don't have any answer apart from the kids looking blank, quizzical and clueless. Sam and co would then tell them that they are also interested in this witchcraft. They would ask the child to give them this witchcraft to "eat" because they want to be like them, be their best friend. Again, always, the child will look lost, unable to understand what is being asked. But if asked again if they're witches or wizard, they'd again say yes.

Thus, Sam says the most immediate thing they do when a child comes is to change their ‘witchcraft mentality', but not without a little trickery. Sam says the kids are usually looking hungry and sick when they arrive, so they are always in need of blood tonic. But rather than tell them what they are being given is blood tonic, they tell them it is the "Witch Cure". So, these kids drink these believing they are being cured or "delivered" from the witchcraft. The children at the Centre also play important roles in removing the witchcraft mentality from newcomers by telling them they are no witches or wizard, sharing their own experiences and so on. Sam says there's been a lot of success achieved through this approach, which involves reconciliation of children and parents who come to believe their children have been "delivered" by Sam and take them home. Sam says most of these were not shown in the Dispatches programme, but there's been quite a lot of that. He says the parents who come to him are usually those who cannot afford the fees of fake pastors and that the popularity of the Centre for "deliverance" is based on the fact that they do not charge a dime. The children in the camp are usually the ones not claimed back by their parents or relations or the ones picked up without knowledge of their family ties.

The more sober issue I discussed with Sam was concern about his own security and that of the children following the recent and ongoing police action against the child abusers. Sam says he's being inundated by calls from all quarters about the arrests, most of which are threats against him by supporters or followers of these persons. The Centre is in the middle of nowhere without a fence and Sam feels his life is in danger. After reading the BBC story, VOR had called me earlier in the day to raise concerns about the security of Sam and the kids and we resolved that I should discuss it with Sam since I was going to speak to him later. So, I told Sam this and assured him we are thinking of that as well. Sam insisted that he wasn't afraid of dying, because, after all, everyone has to die sometime; he's just worried that if anything happens to him, the Centre could collapse with the children attacked, forced to run away and so on. I advised Sam to demand police protection, including first recording the numbers and if possible names of those calling him over this matter and giving these to the police. I said he should discuss this with the Assistant Commissioner of Police he's been working with over the arrests and also with the Commissioner of Police and the State Commissioner for Information, Mr Aniekan Umanah. I said once he has done these, we will follow up with pressure on the government and police authorities. I personally think, and this is something proposed by VOR, that a police post should be stationed near the Centre. VOR believes that this would send a clear message to mischief-makers and dangerous criminals that government isn't taking threats to the kids and their handlers lightly.

I told Sam that Ebele has joined up with us and he was really chuffed about that. He said he would have come online to say "Hello!" to her, but his lack of access to the internet is still hampering him and obviously, he's been quite busy running around the state with the police these past few days in search of the culprits. But he sends his thanks to all those standing up to be counted. He thanks those donating for the planned Christmas party and working on various ideas for the future of the kids. He says he'd come on board as soon as he finds the time.


Kennedy Emetulu,

London

CIkpatt
Dec 6, 2008, 10:31 PM
http://www.governorakpabioinaction.org/events/akwa-ibom-child-rights-act/


http://www.governorakpabioinaction.org/images/akwa-ibom-child-rights-act/4.jpg

CHILD RIGHTS BILL
AN ADDRESS PRESENTED BY THE EXECUTIVE GOVERNOR OF AKWA IBOM STATE
HIS EXCELLENCY CHIEF GODSWILL OBOT AKPABIO
ON THE OCCASION OF THE SIGNING OF THE AKWA IBOM CHILD RIGHTS BILL
DECEMBER 5, 2008

We have come here today to sign an act to protect our children and posterity. We have come to make a law to protect everything we cherish and value, for it would be completely futile to make the gains we have made in terms of infrastructures, development and progress without preparing the next generation for sustaining our legacy.

It should be pointed out that this bill is today being domesticated in Akwa Ibom State and today marks a giant stride for our children. The law which gave birth to it emanated from a convention of the United Nations. It was adopted by the Africa Union and domesticated by the National Assembly in 2003. I thank the House of Assembly for its speedy passage of this bill and for its cooperation. This House deserves our collective gratitude.

Today, as this bill becomes part of our body of laws, we need to emphasize that our commitment to the protection of our children is total and would not brook any violation. Even though this law started from the global body, it should be seen in the light of the fact that it has been in the general direction of our policy trend towards our children.

So far, we had instituted free and compulsory education for all our children and no Akwa Ibom child would be denied this opportunity under any pretext. Every Akwa Ibom child would be completely protected by this law we are signing today, and this is a commitment we would protect with all the might of the legal instruments at our disposal.

Last month this state was subjected to global odium by a report on the British Television Channel 4, on alleged child-witches and their maltreatment by their parents and communities. The international outrage intensified as the report found its way into other news networks like the British Broadcasting Corporation (BBC), the Cable News Network (CNN) and got hoisted on the World Wide Web. On its first day of appearing on the World Wide Web it had over five million people visit the site. This signing had been planned before this saga, but we consider it timely that we are signing this bill today.

The substance of the television report was that over 15,000 children have been sent out of their homes in our state over allegations of witchcraft. A man who claimed to be a bishop was interviewed and he claimed to have killed up to 110 witches and wizards. In addition the man also claimed that there were 2.3 million witches in our state. For the avoidance of doubt we do not believe that anyone in our state is a witch, and we strongly condemn and deplore this stigmatization of our state. The report also showed clips of children who had been brutalized, abused and allegedly killed on accusations of witchcraft.

We do not know how this station came by its statistics of 15,000 children sent out of homes on accusations of witchcraft, but even if one child has been abused or mistreated or killed, we would ensure that the law takes its course. This administration is completely committed to the protection of the fundamental human rights of all its citizens and no one who violates the law would go unpunished. The self-styled Bishop who claimed to have killed 110 children and his accomplices had since been picked up by the police and will soon appear in court.

By the definition of this law every person under the age of 16 years is classified as a child and shall be entitled to rights we consider inalienable. Among such rights, is his or her parent’s responsibility to ensure that he or she benefits from our free education program by attending and completing his primary and senior secondary school education. A parent who runs afoul of this law shall on first conviction be liable to a fine of not more than N5,000 (five thousand Naira) or imprisonment for a term not exceeding two months or both.

The law also prohibits child labour which includes buying, selling, hiring, begging for alms, prostitution, domestic or sexual labour, slave or practices similar to slavery such as trafficking and compulsory labour, etc. Contravention of this law attracts an imprisonment of the term of ten years with no option of fine.

The law also prohibits sexual intercourse with children and classify same as rape and also harmful publication of materials like books, magazines, film, pictures, video or audio tape which contain harmful information and which children could have access to.

The law makes it punishable with an imprisonment term of 10 years to fifteen years without an option of fine for a child to be accused of witchcraft. Whoever accuses any child of witchcraft, whether his or her parents or a church or pastor will be liable for punishment.

The bill establishes a family court for the purposes of hearing and determining matters related to children. This is important to ensure speedy trial of cases and not let them run through long processes and terminate when the child is no more a child. The child has been granted the right to be represented by a legal practitioner, and to free legal aid in the hearing and determination of any matter concerning the child in the court.

We enlist the cooperation of all Akwa Ibom people to make this law be an effective protection for our children, and a shelter for our posterity. I sign this bill into law and with it, bring our children and posterity under the eternal protection of the Akwa Ibom State Government.

God bless our children.

Wayfarer
Dec 7, 2008, 01:40 AM
Kennedy Emetulu, I just want to say, thank you very much.

Mikky jaga
Dec 9, 2008, 03:20 PM
Kennedy Emetulu, I just want to say, thank you very much.

Sorry, you missed the London part of the name!!

The full name reads:

Kennedy Emetulu, London.

Thank you.

Ewuro
Dec 9, 2008, 06:02 PM
Sorry, you missed the London part of the name!!

The full name reads:

Kennedy Emetulu, London.

Thank you.

Me sef, I throway my salute for Kenn. Respect!!!

emj
Dec 10, 2008, 03:01 AM
The law makes it punishable with an imprisonment term of 10 years to fifteen years without an option of fine for a child to be accused of witchcraft. Whoever accuses any child of witchcraft, whether his or her parents or a church or pastor will be liable for punishment.

I hope there's enough fire-power to back this up:arrow:

Kenn
Dec 10, 2008, 03:56 AM
Between Sunday, December 7 and Tuesday December 9, 2008, I spoke to Sam Ikpe-Itauma several times about developments at the Centre. On Saturday, 6 December, some people came to see him over the arrests the police have been making. Obviously, because Sam has been in the forefront of the campaign and has been leading the police to make some of the arrests, some of the relatives of the arrested persons have found their way to his doorsteps – some coming to beg Sam to help release their relations and others actually coming to attack him. Though none of the attacks have become physical yet, there's been real tension.

Those who came that Saturday were relatives of two men arrested. One is Pastor Alfred Akpe who had been arrested since last Monday. He is the head pastor at Christ Apostolic Church at Ikpa, though he himself hails from Ekpenobo. The other is Pastor Ezekiel Bassey who heads the Akpa-Utong branch of the same church. One of those who came to see Sam was the policeman son of Pastor Akpe. He felt so strongly about the matter (especially his own powerlessness in the face of it all) that he planned to unleash his anger on Sam. But he came with a lawyer, and just as things were threatening to spill over, Sam warned him that he was going to report him to his superiors. The lawyer also warned him that if he gets violent, he was going to hands off the whole matter. Other relations acted more responsibly, pleading with Sam to help.

Sam told them he was not in a position to help, but that he was duty-bound to help the police effect arrest as his first and only responsibility is to the kids. He said most of what the police acted on were statements made by the kids about what happened to them. He urged the families to go help their relations prepare for their defence as they would have their day in court and surely be given the opportunity to state their side of the story. Sam assured them that there's nothing to worry about if the arrested person(s) are innocent. He told them that this is not a case of private prosecution as the state is in charge in every respect.

Pastor Ezekiel Bassey is a notorious child abuser. He actually has a child at the CRARN Centre by the name of Edidiong. He had thrown Edidiong out of his home and the poor boy had been living on the streets for over three years before he was brought to the Centre in 2006. Edidiong who is about 12 years of age is reported to be a fine young boy, who's always very respectful and diligent. But his father, Pastor Ezekiel Bassey branded him a wizard and threw him out. Pastor Ezekiel did not only do this to his own child, he did it to his late brother's children. He appropriated their late father's property, kept them out of it and made sure he made their lives miserable by first branding them (a boy and a girl) wizard and witch. He'd then ceaselessly beat them to the point of death to the chagrin of his neighbours, but who couldn't do anything, because he'd always claim to be trying to exorcise from them the spirit of witchcraft. There were incidences of the boy being beaten so badly that he ran and hid in a pond where he was mercilessly attacked by leeches, yet he remained still in there out of fear, because he couldn't afford to be caught by Pastor Bassey. At another time, he forced the boy to eat his own excreta! By the time the police picked up the girl on the street to bring her to the Centre, she was almost going mad. CRARN is presently sponsoring the boy to learn the fishing trade and have reserved a scholarship for him from 10 given to the Centre for next session by UNICEF.

Sam says it took a great battle of wits to track down Pastor Ezekiel Bassey who had gone underground when the police raids started. They eventually got word that he was in hiding in a place called Odoronkit, so they made to go and get him in company of policemen and some young people Sam took along. Sam knows the man is in the timber trade, so they pretended to be timber merchants who were bringing business to him. They had to be vetted by a long line of people until they finally were brought to his wife. All this while, the police were in hiding around the place following development. The wife then grilled Sam and company, asking questions that should expose them if indeed they aren't timber merchants. But Sam and co had done their homework, mentioning timber marketing points and giving names of other merchants who had directed them. When at a point it seemed the woman began to doubt them (all the while Pastor Ezekiel Bassey was hiding in an inner sanctum, hearing the conversation), Sam and co began a pretend fight over money supposedly from previous timber sales. They began to make a racket, which eventually smoked out Pastor Bassey, who, at that point thought they were indeed timber boys.

But as Pastor Bassey showed his face and they attempted to grab him, he took to his heels, just as the wife raised alarm, claiming hired assassins were after her husband. The account of the pursuit by Sam and his boys had me in stitches. Sam said the man meandered through the forest like an antelope and before they knew it, he had dusted them and the police and was increasing the gap so fast that they thought they'd lost him. Then one of the policemen drew out his pistol and barked out to Bassey to stop or he'd shoot. The policeman told him he had the power to shoot him because he was resisting arrest. After a few more threats, Pastor Bassey surrendered. When they caught up with him, they asked in half jest and in half seriousness why he was that fast. The man proudly responded that he was a great athlete in his youth! Anyway, if the police and the criminal justice system do their job properly, I do not think Pastor Bassey will be sprinting for some time.

Later, Sam had another visitor by the name of Akanimo. This one was a friendlier one. He said he's a member of "The Riders Club", comprising of him and his friends who work in the oil industry around Uyo. He said they've heard of the children's story and would want to pay them a visit on December 30, 2008. I took his number and promised to call him and have a chat with him about what we are doing. I also asked Sam about a Lithuanian by the name Viktor Poluektovas who was at the Centre in July 2006 as a volunteer. Victor was then a 25-year old public health practitioner who heard the CRARN story while he was in Ghana and then decided to visit and help. For the four months he was at the Centre, he was diligent, innovative and very helpful in so many ways. Sam says Viktor is now a trustee of Stepping Stones and is based in London. I also took his number and hope to call him to thank him and tell him what we are doing. Sam says there is a lady by the name Ranti from Germany who's also been of great help. He thinks she must have joined The Nigerian Child Google Group already, but he isn't very sure.

Sam says he'd be travelling soon to Abuja and Lagos for a programme jointly organised with Stepping stones, other NGOs and civil society groups to raise awareness about the issue. They had also planned some for Uyo and Calabar, but those ones are postponed in the meantime. He said he'd be in Abuja on 11 December, 2008 and in Lagos on 18 December, 2008. He said he's yet to be told the venues, but once he's told, he would let us know. Sam says he's spoken to John Charles (who, by the way, isn't Ebele Onwueme's brother, but a good friend and a believer in the cause). He will be visiting the Centre very soon to deliver some donations they raised (from Ebele's fundraiser) and other goodies. Indeed, there's a lot more Ebele and her family are doing for CRARN, but in due course she and those involved will let us know. She's really a huge asset to the Group.

On Tuesday night, shortly after 8.00 pm (UK time), I finally spoke with Elizabeth, Sam's beautiful and courageous wife. I thanked her profusely for being mother to over 170 children and for being the great rock behind Sam the man. I expressed our appreciation for everything she's been doing and pointed out that Sam would not be in the business of looking after these kids if she wasn't supportive. I praised her courage, commitment and kind-heartedness. I said God is using her and Sam to do great things for our nation. I thanked her for keeping a happy home and for returning some cheerfulness into the lives of those children. I told her she's an inspiration to us all. She said "Thank You" and sent her regards to everyone standing by the kids.


Kennedy Emetulu,
London.

Soul Sista
Dec 10, 2008, 04:55 AM
Kenn1:

Please do you have a copy of the Akwa Ibom State Child Rights Act? If so, can you post it on this thread? I looked on line but I don't think it is generally available yet. Many thanks and more grease to your elbows!

Soul Sista a/k/a Soul Sizzling

denker
Dec 10, 2008, 08:30 AM
kenn1, my very dear bruder, as you might have observed i have stopped thanking you..the thank button is not enough to express my heartfelt/deep seated gratitude for the wonderful job you're rendering...anywaz, dat's exactly your natural calling..abi, why you do think say you're endowed with dat kind of INTELLIGENCE/BRAIN POWER..gods be with you and yours!

WaleAkin
Dec 10, 2008, 10:21 AM
Thanks Kenn1! We at the GoogleGroup admire your tenacity, sagacity, dilligence and flair.

Thanks Bro!

Bunch17
Dec 10, 2008, 10:59 AM
Thanks Kenn1! We at the GoogleGroup admire your tenacity, sagacity, dilligence and flair.

Thanks Bro!

Some of us go night school, so abeg no big grammer :D

emj
Dec 10, 2008, 11:32 AM
Hmm.....Kenno, i just finished reading this at the other korner....looks like i've turned to an antelope...lol

Seriously the main man, you write well..your dedication to this cause is unsurpassable/unsurpassed...you have a good heart..will yak later...cheerios;)

PS>>>>...i promise not to give u too much grief about the length of your write ups..scout's honor.:)

emj
Dec 13, 2008, 01:50 AM
Olori VOR, Valteena, take a Bow please...nice doings Ladies....am really impressed by your effort to see that the project we embarked on in respect of xmas cheer for the akwa Ibom children becomes a reality...not only did you organise a fund-raiser(inspite of your busy schedules), Valteena found even a very interesting way that i never gave a thought to...to raise funds.

Also Ayo Omotade,Area-Boy, Wale and Kenn1 agun to aso lo stepped up the plate to do their own thing and carried out their assignments...take a bow sirs.

Not to forget all other visible members of the group, Mulan, Anioma777, NAR, a long list of NVSers and Other Google Group Members..it's interesting what one can achieve when one really set one's mind to it...good to see all Walk the walk as we talk the talk.

The time is near to remit funds...and we know that we will surely make a difference no matter what.

A big thank u to all who have thus stepped up and aligned with us in this..Thanks.

Ideas are flowing in and even the short term project will get executed inspite of time.

chiagozie
Dec 13, 2008, 04:23 AM
E don tey wey nash dey fo back!

VOR
Dec 13, 2008, 07:44 PM
Countess!!

I am so happy, the dream of holding a Christmas party for these kids which started nearly a month ago has become a reality! God is good!!!!:D

I can relax now and enjoy Christmas with my family, knowing full well that the kids will be having their own Christmas do :clap: Next year we will start brainstorming on how to further help the kids

I say a big thank you to all Countess mentioned in her post (including her eminence, the one and only Countess). May the Lord bless and keep you all, may special blessings come your way now and forever. I am very proud of you all.:kiss:



Olori VOR, Valteena, take a Bow please...nice doings Ladies....am really impressed by your effort to see that the project we embarked on in respect of xmas cheer for the akwa Ibom children becomes a reality...not only did you organise a fund-raiser(inspite of your busy schedules), Valteena found even a very interesting way that i never gave a thought to...to raise funds.

Also Ayo Omotade,Area-Boy, Wale and Kenn1 agun to aso lo stepped up the plate to do their own thing and carried out their assignments...take a bow sirs.

Not to forget all other visible members of the group, Mulan, Anioma777, NAR, a long list of NVSers and Other Google Group Members..it's interesting what one can achieve when one really set one's mind to it...good to see all Walk the walk as we talk the talk.

The time is near to remit funds...and we know that we will surely make a difference no matter what.

A big thank u to all who have thus stepped up and aligned with us in this..Thanks.

Ideas are flowing in and even the short term project will get executed inspite of time.

Kenn
Dec 14, 2008, 10:57 PM
People,

This isn’t funny O!:eek: And yes, I’m talking to you men, yes, you my homies! What happened?:confused1 We decided to raise money for these kids; but suddenly most of us just went underground while the ladies put us to the sword! The most fascinating thing really is their ingenuity! Valteena baked cakes and raked in £135! Then VOR cooked and sold some food and brought in £520! The ladies have been bringing home the bacon, left, right and centre! But me and my brothers dem just siddon for here dey speak oyibo! Chei! What a disgrace!:sad:

I mean, all we needed was to use our brains! For instance, Tonsoyo and I could have raised about a million pounds!!! if we’d had a ‘Charity Boxing Match!’ with Big-K as referee! I would have had my opportunity to reconstruct his face and you peeps would have paid for the privilege of seeing me demolish him with upper-cuts, lower-cuts, punishing body-jabs and the complimentary two or three head-butts when the referee isn’t looking!:wink: But no, we no use our brains – na so-so grammar we just dey knack, days dey fly by!:cry:

Well, I’m thoroughly ashamed – on behalf of myself and the boys!:redface: The ladies are proving once again that when it comes to the walk, they have longer strides than us! But I’ve not given up on you guys! Mbanu! Lai-lai!:pray: We shouldn’t let them win this one O! So guys, put your hands in your deep pockets and bring something for these kids. This is the Season of Goodwill! Don’t be a Scrooge!

If you are in the US and around, you can make your donation via Paypal to this address: ebel_e@hotmail.com

If you’re in the UK or anywhere else in Europe, you can pay into an account with the information below:

NAME OF BANK: HALIFAX PLC
SORT CODE:11-00-01
ACCOUNT NUMBER: 04496594
ACCOUNT HOLDER NAME: V. TEMITOPE

Or, if you prefer to pay by Paypal, you can pay to this address: victoriatemitope@yahoo.co.uk

Ladies and Gentlemen, no amount is too small!
Time is running out for these kids!
Just do something now!

May God the Almighty replenish your purse as you give generously to these needy children!

A-M-E-N!:biggrin:



CHEERS!:hail:

Kenn
Dec 14, 2008, 11:06 PM
Kenn1:

Please do you have a copy of the Akwa Ibom State Child Rights Act? If so, can you post it on this thread? I looked on line but I don't think it is generally available yet. Many thanks and more grease to your elbows!

Soul Sista a/k/a Soul Sizzling


Sizzling,

The Akwa Ibom Child Rights Act is just a state-specific adaptation of the national one. But it's not available yet. I've made arrangements to get a copy once it's out. As soon as I get it, I'll post it here.


CHEERS!

Wayfarer
Dec 15, 2008, 12:43 AM
I think that privacy concerns may be affecting this donation drive. People who post anonymously here are probably worried about their personal information will be revealed if they donate through paypal. A post office box was provided for donations from people who wished to remain anonymous the last time NVS conducted a fund drive. It would be helpful if it was provided again, or if any address that would enable people to send in money orders was provided.

emj
Dec 15, 2008, 12:52 AM
I think that privacy concerns may be affecting this donation drive. People who post anonymously here are probably worried about their personal information will be revealed if they donate through paypal. A post office box was provided for donations from people who wished to remain anonymous the last time NVS conducted a fund drive. It would be helpful if it was provided again, or if any address that would enable people to send in money orders was provided.

ebel_e@hotmail.com if you're in the US, email Ebele and she will send you the address where you can send the Money order to....also let her know that you dont want your name stated cos you cherish your privacy...thanks:arrow:

And if in the UK, same thing, email victoriatemitope@yahoo.co.uk and you will receive proper direction thanks.

We've thus far kept to the promise not to divulge people's identity....and some Donors for that reason remain anonymous.

PS>>>People who have stepped up to be part of this are NVS members and Non-NVS members.

VOR
Dec 15, 2008, 10:08 AM
Countess!!

I am so happy, the dream of holding a Christmas party for these kids which started nearly a month ago has become a reality! God is good!!!!:D

I can relax now and enjoy Christmas with my family, knowing full well that the kids will be having their own Christmas do :clap: Next year we will start brainstorming on how to further help the kids

I say a big thank you to all Countess mentioned in her post (including her eminence, the one and only Countess). May the Lord bless and keep you all, may special blessings come your way now and forever. I am very proud of you all.:kiss:

Forgot to mention villager Tonsoyo. Thanks Bros, e se pupo. owo yin a ma ro'ke o!

RAYNOSA
Dec 15, 2008, 02:33 PM
Forgot to mention villager Tonsoyo. Thanks Bros, e se pupo. owo yin a ma ro'ke o!

Olori
You statement above make me remember one Yoruba quiz programme on NTA channel 7 "Tan mo" ko wa so.........:lol::lol:

Anyway back to the main news

I was nearly lynched in London -Evangelist Helen Ukpabio, Founder and President of Liberty Gospel Church, Calabar

Founder and President of Liberty Gospel Church, Calabar, Evangelist Helen Ukpabio, has cried out against what she called 'wicked blackmail' against her person and ministry by a section of the Western media in collaboration with an Eket-based non-governmental organization (NGO).

Ukpabio said unknown to her, British Broadcasting Corporation (BBC) Channel 04 had carried a report in London on November 12, the night preceding her arrival in London that she promoted the killing of children that were accused of witchcraft in Nigeria.

She told journalists in Calabar that save for God's intervention, she would have been arrested by the police, shot or lynched by a mob that gathered about her after a lady identified her as the Nigerian preacher BBC Channel O4 showed the night before her arrival in London as promoting killing of child witches in Nigeria.

She said the black lady accosted her as she came from the airport to pick a taxi to her hotel and asked whether she was a Nigerian preacher and by name Helen.

When she answered in the affirmative, the lady screamed and asked why she was killing children in Nigeria.

Ukpabio said perplexed and embarrassed by that question, she asked the woman what she meant and she tried to tell her more about the said TV broadcast as an angry crowd gathered.

The woman had said churches in Nigeria's Akwa Ibom State were accusing children of witchcraft and causing parents to drive their kids from home while churches tortured and killed them in the process of deliverance from witchcraft.

She said the lady claimed the TV station said her film, End of the Wicked was the root cause of the accusation of children.

Ukpabio said it was the testimony of a couple that said they had a copy of the said film and that it was the said film that delivered their family from lots of problems. They said the film was a very good one and asked the people to get their copies. "It was then that all the people that gathered and took up arms against me changed their attitude," she said.

Ukpabio said The Guardian of London had earlier on November last year published an article on her person saying, "I preach sermons that endanger the lives of children, teach parents to kill their children and label the children witches. It said I asked parents to bring fat sums of money which I collected to build my house and buy big cars."

The Telegraph had also done similar report without making any efforts to contact her. She said the article was pasted in Google and people were asked to respond.

"They posted horrible comments - all abusing me," she said. She lamented that an arm of BBCand the Guardian of London could stoop so low as to print such lies against an innocent African woman, noting that the storyline of End of the Wicked was not witchcraft, let alone child witch.

emj
Dec 15, 2008, 03:08 PM
Olori
You statement above make me remember one Yoruba quiz programme on NTA channel 7 "Tan mo" ko wa so.........:lol::lol:

Anyway back to the main news

I was nearly lynched in London -Evangelist Helen Ukpabio, Founder and President of Liberty Gospel Church, Calabar

Founder and President of Liberty Gospel Church, Calabar, Evangelist Helen Ukpabio, has cried out against what she called 'wicked blackmail' against her person and ministry by a section of the Western media in collaboration with an Eket-based non-governmental organization (NGO).

Ukpabio said unknown to her, British Broadcasting Corporation (BBC) Channel 04 had carried a report in London on November 12, the night preceding her arrival in London that she promoted the killing of children that were accused of witchcraft in Nigeria.

She told journalists in Calabar that save for God's intervention, she would have been arrested by the police, shot or lynched by a mob that gathered about her after a lady identified her as the Nigerian preacher BBC Channel O4 showed the night before her arrival in London as promoting killing of child witches in Nigeria.

She said the black lady accosted her as she came from the airport to pick a taxi to her hotel and asked whether she was a Nigerian preacher and by name Helen.

When she answered in the affirmative, the lady screamed and asked why she was killing children in Nigeria.

Ukpabio said perplexed and embarrassed by that question, she asked the woman what she meant and she tried to tell her more about the said TV broadcast as an angry crowd gathered.

The woman had said churches in Nigeria's Akwa Ibom State were accusing children of witchcraft and causing parents to drive their kids from home while churches tortured and killed them in the process of deliverance from witchcraft.

She said the lady claimed the TV station said her film, End of the Wicked was the root cause of the accusation of children.

Ukpabio said it was the testimony of a couple that said they had a copy of the said film and that it was the said film that delivered their family from lots of problems. They said the film was a very good one and asked the people to get their copies. "It was then that all the people that gathered and took up arms against me changed their attitude," she said.

Ukpabio said The Guardian of London had earlier on November last year published an article on her person saying, "I preach sermons that endanger the lives of children, teach parents to kill their children and label the children witches. It said I asked parents to bring fat sums of money which I collected to build my house and buy big cars."

The Telegraph had also done similar report without making any efforts to contact her. She said the article was pasted in Google and people were asked to respond.

"They posted horrible comments - all abusing me," she said. She lamented that an arm of BBCand the Guardian of London could stoop so low as to print such lies against an innocent African woman, noting that the storyline of End of the Wicked was not witchcraft, let alone child witch.

Hmm, a case of the Hunter becoming the Hunted...how does that feel...Helen Ukpabio,.....wias she from again? An african woman...hmm:arrow:

VOR
Dec 15, 2008, 08:46 PM
Olori
You statement above make me remember one Yoruba quiz programme on NTA channel 7 "Tan mo" ko wa so.........:lol::lol:

Anyway back to the main news

I was nearly lynched in London -Evangelist Helen Ukpabio, Founder and President of Liberty Gospel Church, Calabar

Founder and President of Liberty Gospel Church, Calabar, Evangelist Helen Ukpabio, has cried out against what she called 'wicked blackmail' against her person and ministry by a section of the Western media in collaboration with an Eket-based non-governmental organization (NGO).

Ukpabio said unknown to her, British Broadcasting Corporation (BBC) Channel 04 had carried a report in London on November 12, the night preceding her arrival in London that she promoted the killing of children that were accused of witchcraft in Nigeria.

She told journalists in Calabar that save for God's intervention, she would have been arrested by the police, shot or lynched by a mob that gathered about her after a lady identified her as the Nigerian preacher BBC Channel O4 showed the night before her arrival in London as promoting killing of child witches in Nigeria.

She said the black lady accosted her as she came from the airport to pick a taxi to her hotel and asked whether she was a Nigerian preacher and by name Helen.

When she answered in the affirmative, the lady screamed and asked why she was killing children in Nigeria.

Ukpabio said perplexed and embarrassed by that question, she asked the woman what she meant and she tried to tell her more about the said TV broadcast as an angry crowd gathered.

The woman had said churches in Nigeria's Akwa Ibom State were accusing children of witchcraft and causing parents to drive their kids from home while churches tortured and killed them in the process of deliverance from witchcraft.

She said the lady claimed the TV station said her film, End of the Wicked was the root cause of the accusation of children.

Ukpabio said it was the testimony of a couple that said they had a copy of the said film and that it was the said film that delivered their family from lots of problems. They said the film was a very good one and asked the people to get their copies. "It was then that all the people that gathered and took up arms against me changed their attitude," she said.

Ukpabio said The Guardian of London had earlier on November last year published an article on her person saying, "I preach sermons that endanger the lives of children, teach parents to kill their children and label the children witches. It said I asked parents to bring fat sums of money which I collected to build my house and buy big cars."

The Telegraph had also done similar report without making any efforts to contact her. She said the article was pasted in Google and people were asked to respond.

"They posted horrible comments - all abusing me," she said. She lamented that an arm of BBCand the Guardian of London could stoop so low as to print such lies against an innocent African woman, noting that the storyline of End of the Wicked was not witchcraft, let alone child witch.

This woman is an eediot!:rant: she should be put in a padded cell!
So what was the movie about? How about her teaching that if a child cries too much at night or runs a high temperature it means the child is possessed by demons (witchcraft)?

The people at the airport should have asked madam " I have a voice in Nigeria" if she believes her teachings are responsible. Will she subject her children to such treatment in the name of deliverance. How come she has not since denounced such acts by these fake pastors, how come she is not leading the campaign to stop these acts?

Before she comes out all holier than thou, the woman should be told that she is an agent of satan, not God! She is evil and her outfit should be closed down.......imbecilic charlatan! The fat on her body has probably suffocated her senses! deranged animal. nonsense!:rolleyes:

Madam "deliverance for sale" did the Guardian lie?

valteena
Dec 15, 2008, 09:23 PM
Nonesense and ingredent. The evil woman is trying to use a sob tale to garner sympathy.

When she was asked in the documentary for a response why didn't she respond in a manner you'd expect from a true woman of god. Condemn such practice and express commitment to help stop it.

Instead she was ranting on and comparing herself and film ignorantly with J K Rowlings and her Harry Poter.

VOR
Dec 16, 2008, 12:04 AM
Emilia, alleged 'witch' Abandoned in the forest by her parents rescued by CRARN.

VOR
Dec 16, 2008, 12:10 AM
Remember her?

VOR
Dec 16, 2008, 12:12 AM
Another burn victim.

Exxcuzme
Dec 16, 2008, 12:30 AM
Can we stream the movie online?

emj
Dec 16, 2008, 02:06 PM
Another burn victim.

Hmm, spoke to Sam and the Children some minutes ago...May God send more divine helpers their way....quite a lot of work and need from what we can see and know...hmm

WaleAkin
Dec 16, 2008, 06:33 PM
YES!!! We are hitting the target! A big Xmas party for our Kids in Calabar............

Thanks to all the Contributors! Thanks to the Children who also supported us, your £5, £10 will go a long way!

VOR, thanks for birthing this dream and kudos to us all as we followed you, I LOVE YOU, believe me!

I am indeed happy!

emj
Dec 16, 2008, 06:48 PM
YES!!! We are hitting the target! A big Xmas party for our Kids in Calabar............

Thanks to all the Contributors! Thanks to the Children who also supported us, your £5, £10 will go a long way!

VOR, thanks for birthing this dream and kudos to us all as we followed you, I LOVE YOU, believe me!

I am indeed happy!

Eherm, Ogbeni, hope we're still going to have that Boxing Match o...Inabere Vs Inaolaji:lol::lol:

Way to go, from Yes we Can of 13th November...to Yes we have Arrived:lol:

Nice doings and goings all...here's sending Positive vibes(amy) your way...u Rock:rose:

PS>...Child Rights Bill already Passed and all in Motion.
Those already arrested are singing a Different Tune.

VOR
Dec 16, 2008, 10:14 PM
Hmm, spoke to Sam and the Children some minutes ago...May God send more divine helpers their way....quite a lot of work and need from what we can see and know...hmm

God is able Countess.
If necessary He will raise up stones, oh yes He can!:pray:

Did you see Mary in the pics?

lizmoses
Dec 16, 2008, 10:29 PM
Kudos to this team and God's blessings to you all.

Respects

emj
Dec 16, 2008, 10:36 PM
God is able Countess.
If necessary He will raise up stones, oh yes He can!:pray:

Did you see Mary in the pics?

Yes i did, and when i spoke to them today, my heart gave walahi...it took me a while to gather myself together...it is well:arrow:

A Special thank u to Ahaoma for the Visit and Pictures..take a Bow Sir.

BTW>>>....Everyone is so looking forward to the DO...i wish am on ground there..but...hmm

WaleAkin
Dec 16, 2008, 11:01 PM
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The Man himself.............Sam. Thanks for the love Bruv!

VOR
Dec 16, 2008, 11:04 PM
Yes i did, and when i spoke to them today, my heart gave walahi...it took me a while to gather myself together...it is well:arrow:

BTW>>>....Everyone is so looking forward to the DO...i wish am on ground there..but...hmm

What happened to your broomstick? There and back in minutes..:D:D:D:arrow:

WaleAkin
Dec 16, 2008, 11:12 PM
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This beauty was thrown into a river in Eket to drown, she lives to tell the story!

Anioma777
Dec 17, 2008, 07:58 AM
This wonderful child of God Nwaeka ( the girl who had a 3 inch nail in her head ) makes me cry eachtime I see her picture ( see below ) or the video. Most of our people really are evil!!!!

Well done to Sam and all his crew. Kudos to Kanu, just read his report and good to see the pictures of the centre,staff and kids.

Also to thenigerianchild group, I remember many imbeciles tried to mock us at the start. A big thankyou to all those who have helped. I normally cannot stand christmas time:(, but this year I will be happy knowing that the kids at CRARN can have something to celebrate. Now that the short term goal of the party is oncourse, in the new year we can forge ahead with long term goals. It just goes to show our differences in opinion and tribal background should not derail us from working together to reach a collective goal.
Vor great idea. Let me know if you will run for Presidency:D WaleAkin Minister of Finance thanks for keeping us updated. Have a nice day everyone:D

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Ajibs
Dec 17, 2008, 08:32 PM
WaleAkin, VOR, Emj, Kenn1
I have been swallowed up by work and so many other items. Did we hit our mark in the fundraising? And thanks to yoou guys for holding the fort.

WaleAkin
Dec 17, 2008, 10:35 PM
WaleAkin, VOR, Emj, Kenn1
I have been swallowed up by work and so many other items. Did we hit our mark in the fundraising? And thanks to yoou guys for holding the fort.Almost there! We sent the initial Quarter of a Million Naira straight into CRARN account yesterday!

VOR
Dec 19, 2008, 12:01 AM
Almost there! We sent the initial Quarter of a Million Naira straight into CRARN account yesterday!

I believe we have reached target, abi Walata? Party will hold Tuesday 23rd December.

VOR
Dec 20, 2008, 03:39 PM
The CRARN Christmas party for the children will hold on Tuesday 23rd December 2008 at the CRARN Centre, Ikot Afaha, Eket, Akwa Ibom State. Time: from 11am

Programme for the day (from Sam Ikpe-Ituama, Founder of CRARN)




This year CRARN children Christmas Party will be quit unique. It will look massively different from the previous ones. Unlike in the past, where the parties, more or less featured merely the children in CRARN, management/staff and volunteers of CRARN and a few members of the community and, restricted to the centre alone.

This time it will considerably feature outdoor activities like carnivals float on some major streets of at least three Local Government Areas, fleet visits to some political office holder, Traditional and religious leaders, and a few Patrons.

Equally in attendance will be the wives of some Local Government Chairmen and some government dignitaries.

The children choir will thrill the guests with carols and other musical renditions, just as the cultural dance group of CRARN will evoke the cultural display.

The event wil also feature distribution of enlightenment and advocacy leaflets within the area.

A segment that will not be left out is the media which tell the story as they see it.
The children will really enjoy it on Tuesday, 23<SUP>rd</SUP> Dec. 08

IT'S GOING TO BE XMAS PARTY XTRA FOR THE KIDS AT CRARN!!!



On the band stand - The CRARN children

If you are in the area please attend the event, it sure is going to be fun filled!:cool:

A special thank you to the Nigeriachild google group for sponsoring this event. :clap:

WaleAkin
Dec 20, 2008, 03:50 PM
We have jointly laid the foundation and the fruits are forthcoming. Thanks Sam for allowing us be part of this history. I am so happy!

Now, lets begin the Med. and long term projects NOW!

emj
Dec 20, 2008, 07:15 PM
We have jointly laid the foundation and the fruits are forthcoming. Thanks Sam for allowing us be part of this history. I am so happy!

Now, lets begin the Med. and long term projects NOW!

Some Medium Term needs... Medi Care and Counselling...those who can connect the centre with Medicare Providers.
Beds and Beddings, Furnitures, Provisions, Clothing, Books, Food, Help Finish some of the Building Projects etc etc.

PS>>>....A special thank you to the Nigeriachild google group for sponsoring the Xmas Party to put some cheer in the life of the Children and CRARN.
Was discussing with some Google group members some few minutes ago(conference call) and could feel/hear the excitement in their voice....am so happy/glad to be part of this...men u guys Rock......Oh Happy Day:)
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2azX548ppo&feature=related

WaleAkin
Dec 20, 2008, 08:13 PM
Was discussing with some Google group members some few minutes ago(conference call) and could feel/hear the excitement in their voice....am so happy/glad to be part of this...men u guys Rock......Oh Happy Day:)
Una dey talk behind me back cos i dey inside village where GSM no reach? Thanks EMJ, U are one strong shinning light!

Iba mejila plus 10 gbosas to you!

Kenn
Dec 20, 2008, 08:23 PM
People,

I want to use this opportunity to thank every member of The Nigerian Child Google Group for being able to raise the money we projected for the Christmas party for the kids at the Child’s Right And Rehabilitation Network (CRARN) Centre. It’s now clear that the party is kicking off on Tuesday, 23 December, 2008 at the CRARN Centre, Ikot Afaha, Akwa Ibom State. I absolutely salute the ingenuity of the ladies who came up with all kinds of money-raising ideas and the guys who simply took the shortcut of dipping their massive hands into their deep pockets to keep apace with the galloping ladies! It's no mean feat raising half a million naira in two weeks! Thank you, everyone!

As you all know, The Nigerian Child Group at Google and now at www.thenigerianchild.org (which is a new website we are putting together for the future work of The Nigerian Child Group) is made up of diverse membership. For those who are members of the NVS and also members of The Nigerian Child Google Group, I thank you. I thank you for being able to return here to tell NVS members what we are doing there. And by the way, we still are welcoming new members. Anyone who wants to join can always send a PM to VOR, EMJ, WaleAkin, BBalo, Chachanga, N.A.R., Areaboy, Oluwato, Mulan, Anioma77, Dziree, Valteena, Bunch17, Salstep or me. We have a standard Invitation we’ll send to you and all you need to do is read, click to the “Join this group” page of our group and join. It only takes a few seconds. But, we’ll need you to read the Invitation properly to understand what we are about and, when you join, you’ll also need to read the posts to keep up with developments.

So, as the CRARN kids prepare for this party that The Nigerian Child Group is sponsoring, I want to ask you all to spare a thought for them. We know what they’ve been through and why they are where they are. As we sit and eat the Christmas lunch with our family and loved ones, let’s remember that these kids have no family, but people like us who are trying to put smiles on their faces since learning about their plight. Obviously, the party isn’t just a traditional children’s Christmas party. As I told a few of the journalists already converging there for the day, we aim to use the party to send out a message to the community that has rejected them, to the state, the nation and the world.

The Nigerian Child Group has a long-term view of our relationship with these kids and other Nigerian kids in such vulnerable conditions. The Christmas party is just a short-term programme to tell the kids that they’re loved. There are huge challenges ahead and they need men and women of ideas. Those who have started The Nigerian Child Group have showed great courage to begin something. In the months and years ahead, we’ll need you. Please, join us to make a difference. The task at hand is huge!

We thank God for everything!



CHEERS AND STAY DLESSED!

emj
Dec 21, 2008, 01:51 AM
Una dey talk behind me back cos i dey inside village where GSM no reach? Thanks EMJ, U are one strong shinning light!

Iba mejila plus 10 gbosas to you!

Haa..Walata, i was told that u were in oko Gedu....in da Sawmill were there is no coverage(kenn1 told me o) ...make u no vex......and one of said culprit just called me again some few minutes ago, remi and scenting about naija and also very excited about the children's party...i've just told my Pilot to set da Flight Path for u know wia:lol::lol:

Moseba o Wale..nice doings and goings, thanks for tiding everything up nicely...btw, i miss and do enjoy our long convos....greetings to our wife...Cheerios;)

PS>>>>Kenn1...Thanks for initiating the Conference call...dat your voice still dey do me wan kain sha(juess messing with u)...booming, authoritative, soft etc etc ati bee bee lo, :)

Kenn
Dec 21, 2008, 01:58 AM
PS>>>>Kenn1...Thanks for initiating the Conference call...dat your voice still dey do me wan kain sha(juess messing with u)...booming, authoritative, soft etc etc ati bee bee lo:)

Ha! I dey go sleep!;)

Kenn
Dec 21, 2008, 08:34 AM
http://odili.net/news/source/2008/dec/19/512.html

Africa's witch children

By Sun News Publishing

Friday, December 19, 2008

Recently, a television network in Britain, Channel 4, presented a programme entitled "Saving Africa's witch children." The gist of the documentary is how self-styled religious exorcists, pastors and bishops, among others, spread horrifying tales about the existence of demons, evil spirits and witchcraft in Akwa Ibom State among children.

Virtually all the children identified as witches come from poor families. These defenceless children were then subjected to terrible dehumanizing treatment which brutalizes them physically, emotionally and spiritually. A child had a nail hammered into her skull, another was forced to drink a poisonous concoction. Some of the hapless victims were burnt.

In the documentary, several innocent children were cast out by their parents and relations because a pastor who "specializes" in the identification and destruction of witchcraft spirit alleged that the children were possessed. A self–styled Bishop Sunday Illup-Ayah affirms that "we have 2-3 million witches and wizards in Akwa Ibom." Illup-Ayah collects forty thousand naira for delivering a child from the power of witchcraft.

It is instructive to note that the children accused of witchcraft are mostly incapable of defending themselves because of their tender ages.

Those old enough to do so were never given the opportunity to prove their innocence. In most cases, they are tortured and coerced to accept guilt.

According to the documentary, two non-governmental organizations, Children Rights and Rehabilitation Network (CRARN) and Stepping Stones Nigeria, have been providing humanitarian support for the abandoned "witch" children.

The contents of the documentary are extremely damaging to Nigeria's image, both within and outside the country. The documentary also raises a number of fundamental issues relating to existential anomalies, which characterize the day-to-day existence of Nigerians. Deepening poverty stemming from mediocre leadership has rendered millions of Nigerians jobless, destitute, disillusioned and anxious. This situation has a number of serious consequences. Poverty, coupled with ignorance, makes it extremely difficult for low-income breadwinners to provide adequately for the basic necessities of their families.

Thus, many parents, without qualms, send out their children to hawk petty items in the streets to raise extra meager income. It also encourages them to readily accept superstitious doctrines which provide psychological succour for their inability to live up to their parental obligations. Such parents become willing gullible tools in the hands of unscrupulous tricksters who hide under the veneer of religion to dupe them.

As a corollary, the fake pastors exploit the emotion of fear in the church members–fear of the unknown, fear of death and economic ruin, fear of witches and evil spirits–to spread irrational hysteria in the community for their own economic advantage.

It is really disturbing to contemplate the absurdity of beliefs entertained by Nigerians, the level of inhumanity people are capable of in an atmosphere of poverty and ignorance surrounded by fear. Poverty, in this context, is not necessarily material poverty. The worst kind of poverty is intellectual and moral poverty. This explains why parents are willing either to pay some charlatans to "deliver" their children from witchcraft or allow their children to be subjected to all sorts of humiliation in the name of exorcising the power of witchery from these children.

Every competent psychologist knows that under the stressful conditions of physical and mental or emotional trauma, human beings tend to confess to deeds they did not commit–perhaps to end as soon as possible the torture they are undergoing. Thus, the alleged confession of the children to witchery, if indeed such confession took place is not a definitive proof that the children are witches.

The parents and guardians that permitted such atrocities are psychologically unbalanced. Now, due to years of mediocre leadership, Nigerians are sinking deeper and deeper into the morass of poverty. In such condition, easy resort to religious superstition, cruelty and necrophilia appear to be rational. Such parents weighed down by both material poverty and superstition transfer their frustrations to the innocent children and wards in their care.

It is sad that ignorant and cruel charlatans pretending as bishops and pastors are permitted by the authorities to unleash horrifying doctrines and wicked act on Nigerians. It is high time the government clamped down on these new-fangled religious organizations that exploit the gullibility and existential poverty of Nigerians to spread fear on the populace.

The non-governmental organizations and individuals who have been taking care of the children deserve plaudits for their humanitarian work. There is no good reason why the perpetrators of this heinous crimes on children should not be punished severely to deter other mentally unbalanced quack spiritual leaders from destroying our children's future.

Educational institutions and the media should take up the fight against pernicious superstition in the country. They can do this by promoting progr ammes which encourage the scientific outlook, the attitude of healthy skepticism and desire for evidence as the basis for our beliefs. At the moment, there is a lot of superstition, irrationality and anti-scientific orientation in our schools, newspapers, television, home videos and films.

Unless this ugly situation is replaced by a more positive and scientific out- look, Nigerians would continue to be humiliated by insane preachers of bombastic nonsense, and Nigeria's image abroad would sink further down into the cesspit of savage primitivism. The federal, state and local governments must rise to the occasion.





http://www.ngrguardiannews.com/editorial_opinion/article01//indexn2_html?pdate=211208&ptitle=The%20Akwa%20Ibom%20Debacle%20On%20Child%20 Rights



The Akwa Ibom Debacle On Child Rights

Sunday Guardian, December 21, 2008

AGAINST widespread reports of child abuse and stigmatisation in the state, the decision of the Akwa Ibom state Government to enact a law on Child Rights should be commended. For too long, religious profiteers and self-acclaimed exorcists have capitalised on the pervasive poverty in the land to stigmatise children as witches or wizards; and then go on to abuse them under the pretext of exorcising demons.

We urge the Akwa Ibom state Government to implement the new law strictly, fish out offenders and sanction them as appropriate. However, although the state has taken the initiative in enacting the Child Rights law, the social vice of child abuse is widespread. Other states which in the last eight years have refused to pass the Child Rights Law, on the unjustifiable ground that it violates cultural and religious beliefs, should emulate the Akwa Ibom example and do so.

Nigeria is a signatory to the United Nations Convention on Child Rights, 1989 which at least 24 states of the federation are required to endorse through their domestic laws. So far, about 18 states have embraced the convention. In view of the Akwa Ibom experience, and the likelihood of more bizarre situations in other parts of the country, there is need for urgent proactive measures against child abuse at national and state levels. But more important is the need to apprehend and sanction violators of the law.

Both the Akwa Ibom House of Assembly and Governor Godswill Akpabio of the State resorted to the law in apparent response to the recent broadcast on UK Channel 4 of a documentary titled 'Saving Africa's Witch Children.' In the documentary, which gave a detailed account of sheer cruelty towards children, one Bishop Sunday Ulup-Aya claimed to have "killed" 110 child witches. Upon his arrest by the Police, following sustained public outrage, he modified this to mean that he did not kill the children physically, but the demonic spirit in them.

Two Non-Governmental Organisations, Stepping Stones Nigeria (SSN) and the Child Rights and Rehabilitation Network (CRARN) have applauded the Akwa Ibom state Government's swift response to the documentary and the concern that it generated. Stigmatising children and branding them 'witches' and 'wizards' is certainly an unacceptable practice in this day and age. Its representation by the documentary casts a big slur on Nigeria's image abroad. Besides the fact that witchcraft cannot be proven scientifically, stigmatizing anyone as a witch and discriminating against such persons is an outright abuse of human rights.

It is lamentable that centuries after the legendary Mary Slessor rescued twins in the Eastern part of the country from being labelled as 'evil' and disposable, a similar belief and practice still exists across the country. We have little doubt that the Akwa Ibom episode is being regularly replicated in other parts of the country. Sometime ago, a television documentary showed how some children in Lagos had their hands burnt on account that they allegedly harboured evil spirits.

It is equally worrisome that some churches, which are supposed to preach the messages of peace, love and forgiveness are in the forefront of the rituals of exorcism and hate. We are confounded because the Scriptures do not recommend the methods of physical and mental torture adopted by these churches for expelling evil spirits. Socially too, such practices negate the standards of counselling and rehabilitation of persons that may have been identified as deviant.

In any event, since the law does not recognise witchcraft, anyone purporting to abuse a child, or inflict bodily harm for that reason, should be made to face the music. In the absence of a standard means of verifying a claim of witchcraft, it will be dangerous to tolerate exorcism anchored on deliberate bodily harm and death. An innocent person could well become a victim of such heinous acts as has been the case in Akwa Ibom state.

Under the Child Rights law, passed by the Akwa Ibom state House of Assembly and signed by Governor Akpabio, anyone involved in any form of torture, trial by ordeal or inhuman treatment of a child, purportedly to cure, purge or exorcise such a child of witchcraft would be liable to 10 years imprisonment without an option of fine. To ensure speedy trial of offenders under the law, the Governor further announced the establishment of a special family court to determine matters related to children. These measures are welcome.

As future leaders, children must be protected from acts capable of eroding their confidence and self-esteem. It is noteworthy that the Akwa Ibom Child Rights law makes it mandatory for parents and guardians to send children to school under the government's free and compulsory education scheme. No effort should be spared to ensure conformity with the law.

Beyond this, there is need for public enlightenment. We share the concern of the SSN programme Director, Gary Foxcroff that that the vast majority of Akwa Ibomites including commissioners, legislators, policy makers, police and social welfare teams, and even ordinary persons believe that children can be witches. Some people even tend to associate ailments such as epilepsy with witchcraft. The abuse of child rights is likely to continue for as long as this superstition endures. There is need for a government-private sector partnership, to launch a widespread and relentless campaign to educate and enlighten the general public, including religious groups

valteena
Dec 22, 2008, 07:47 AM
This song is dedicated to all those Akwa Ibom kids as they get ready to enjoy their christmas party tomorrow.
Have a wonderful party kids

Three Little Birds
By The Legendary Bob Marley
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valteena
Dec 22, 2008, 07:58 AM
This is to say a big thank you to everyone here and out there who has made it possible for these kids to smile this Christmas and given them hope.

And as we continue with our lofty goals towards giving these kids and other kids in Nigeria a good chance in life, I say love and peace to us all

Enjoy this inspirational song "One Love"

By Bob Marley

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Kenn
Dec 22, 2008, 08:00 AM
This song is dedicated to all those Akwa Ibom kids as they get ready to enjoy their christmas party tomorrow.
Have a wonderful party kids

Three Little Birds
By The Legendary Bob Marley
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Beautiful! Beautiful!:clap:

emj
Dec 22, 2008, 02:27 PM
This song is dedicated to all those Akwa Ibom kids as they get ready to enjoy their christmas party tomorrow.
Have a wonderful party kids

Three Little Birds
By The Legendary Bob Marley
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Good one there Valteena...and must say that a lot is happening in Nigeria this Season....learnt the other day from a friend of how his Son and some other friends are raising money to feed Beggars in Lagos this Season...and must say that am not too surprised....it is good to give without Regret....we dont and will never regret putting our hands on the Plow....Love you all:rose:


PS>>>>Back to pleading with mother nature to move this Snowmageddon away from this region....what with gusting winds of 120mph(hurricane level)....nature dumped snow on us last evening and must say that i was flabberwhelmed to see my neighbour clearing my drive way even b4 i could attempt to do so......He and his family just keep giving to us in such manner that is baffling...they just told me to go back inside whilst they clear all....God bless them real good:)

Oluwato
Dec 23, 2008, 03:32 AM
This song is dedicated to all those Akwa Ibom kids as they get ready to enjoy their christmas party tomorrow.
Have a wonderful party kids

Three Little Birds
By The Legendary Bob Marley
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Valteena,

You've taken me down memory lane with this song... it is one of my favorites and one of my late brother's favorites too. I sang it at his funeral. Thank God in Christ, everything is and will be alright!

We trust in God's mercies for the innocent children in Akwa Ibom!

Shalom!

Oluwato

Auspicious
Dec 23, 2008, 03:43 AM
This song is dedicated to all those Akwa Ibom kids as they get ready to enjoy their christmas party tomorrow.
Have a wonderful party kids

Three Little Birds
By The Legendary Bob Marley
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Awww...!

Nice how certain things in life just make your heart 'butter-up'

Blessings to ALL those who have played a role in bringing smiles to those kids faces in Akwa-Ibom. May we witness in the nearest future, a decline and an eventual end to the kind of horrors that happened to those kids in our country.

Auspicious.

WaleAkin
Dec 23, 2008, 03:22 PM
Calabar is agog right now!!!

I can hear mouth munching, spoons clattering and the heavy metal music of the DJ..................The Kids are jollying and i am thrilled! I cant wait to see the pixes!

Thanks Guys and God bless!

VOR
Dec 23, 2008, 06:27 PM
The procession around town went well I heard.



Calabar is agog right now!!!

I can hear mouth munching, spoons clattering and the heavy metal music of the DJ..................The Kids are jollying and i am thrilled! I cant wait to see the pixes!

Thanks Guys and God bless!

Idahota
Dec 25, 2008, 08:01 PM
This song is dedicated to all those Akwa Ibom kids as they get ready to enjoy their christmas party tomorrow.
Have a wonderful party kids

Three Little Birds
By The Legendary Bob Marley
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This is so movingly beautiful valteena. Thanks

Mikky jaga
Dec 29, 2008, 04:46 PM
The Party was held on the 23rd but no mention was made of NVS in the Nation report I read. The Sunday 28th December Edition. Are we publicity shy? Or are some of us secretly afraid of child witches?

It was a serious omision sha.

WaleAkin
Dec 29, 2008, 07:06 PM
Are we publicity shy? Or are some of us secretly afraid of child witches?
:D:D:D:D......Mikky, u dey buy newspaper at all abi na free reading you dey do for Bus stop?

WaleAkin
Dec 29, 2008, 07:53 PM
http://www.thenationonlineng.com/dynamicpage.asp?id=73527

Mikky jaga
Dec 30, 2008, 01:52 PM
http://www.thenationonlineng.com/dynamicpage.asp?id=73527

Wale,

So, where was NVS in the link you posted? Or is "Nigerian Child Group and the Nigerian Child Organization (NCO)" equivalent to NVS? I said no reference was made to NVS, you posted something to confirm what I wrote, yet you called me a member of Free Readers Association.

Na wah for Walata o.

Kenn
Dec 30, 2008, 03:27 PM
Wale,

So, where was NVS in the link you posted? Or is "Nigerian Child Group and the Nigerian Child Organization (NCO)" equivalent to NVS? I said no reference was made to NVS, you posted something to confirm what I wrote, yet you called me a member of Free Readers Association.

Na wah for Walata o.



Mikky Jaga & All,

This note is to clear up the misconceptions or more like answer the questions raised in Mikky Jaga's posts with regard to NVS and the Christmas party for the kids of CRARN. If you recall, NVS was never part of the Christmas party at any time. What happened was that some of us discussing the issue here opened a Google group in the name of The Nigerian Child Google Group where we joined up with several others who are not NVS members to form an organization known as the Nigerian Child Organization (NCO). It is this organization that conceived of the Christmas party for the kids, raised money for it and joined with Mr Sam Ikpe-Itauma and CRARN to put the whole thing together. That is exactly what The Nation reporter, Evelyn Osagie (whom I spoke to on the day of the party) reported in her piece that WaleAkin has linked here. NVS has nothing to do with it, even though some of us who are members of the Nigerian Child Organization (NCO) are also members of NVS. The party was not done in the name of NVS; money was not raised in the name of NVS and majority of members of the Nigerian Child Organization (NCO) who raised the money are not members of NVS and didn't do so on behalf of NVS.

Below are links to:

The Nigerian Child Google Group:

http://groups.google.com/group/thenigerianchild?hl=en&pli=1

The Nigerian Child Organization (NCO):

http://www.thenigerianchild.org/



There're still a lot to be done. The Christmas party was just a short-term affair. We have more short, medium and long-term objectives as enunciated in our Project document which I'm going to post here as well. Membership is still open. If you are interested, all you have to do is go to any of the sites above and register.



CHEERS!

Kenn
Dec 30, 2008, 04:02 PM
Please, find below the Akwa Ibom kids Project document from the Nigerian Child Organization (NCO)





The Nigerian Stigmatized Children Reclamation Project (NSCRP)



The Nigerian Stigmatized Children Reclamation Project (NSCRP) is the official name of the campaign we are presently involved in. Its aim is to support the children branded as "witches" and "wizards" and who are now being cared for by Mr Sam Ikpe-Itauma at his Child's Rights And Rehabilitation Network (CRARN) Centre at Ikot Afaha in Akwa Ibom State, Nigeria.

We do not think it is appropriate to continue using the term "witches" or "wizards" to describe the children, whether by those who hate them or those who love them. If the whole idea is to cure them of that witchcraft mentality and return them to better psychological and physical state, then we need to desist from using the term of oppression and stigma employed to alienate them in the first place. So, rather than call them "witch children" or "witches" or "wizards", we call them "stigmatized children". We are in the business of reclaiming for them the dignity and humanity denied them and this must be reflected in terms we use to describe or refer to them as well.

The project has short, medium and long-term dimensions. One of the short-term aspects of the project has to do with our immediate decision on formation of the Nigerian Child Organization (NCO) to first organize a proper Christmas party for the kids. Firstly, there is no underlying religious reason for choosing Christmas – it just happens to be the most popular children holiday in that part of the country and it is the one that is most imminent. Indeed, the kids have always had a Christmas party before now, even if not on the scale now proposed. Thus, in a lot of ways, we are just continuing with a tradition already established at the Centre.

Secondly, the Christmas party project is not only about giving the kids rice and sweets. We intend to use the party and activities around it to send a message to the world, Nigeria, Akwa Ibom and the immediate community where the children are based. That message is that these kids are normal kids like others, that they have people who love them out here and who think the world of them. We want to use the instrumentality of the party to invite policy-makers and supportive religious and well-regarded community leaders to come to the occasion and help spread the word that these kids are no different from other children elsewhere. It is the beginning of our attempt to make people around them to see them more positively. We are placing emphases on using the party this time for better public awareness campaign purposes.

A budget of £3,000 (three thousand pounds) has been earmarked for this party. We are presently raising money for this purpose. So, please, donate to the cause. You can go to our Donation Page to choose the method and means most suitable for you Please, note that if you are donating to CRARN directly for the purpose of the Christmas party, we would appreciate if you let us know by email. Just state your name and the amount you've donated. This is to enable us keep account of how much exactly we are raising for the party and from what source).

One immediate challenge we will need to address is the obvious lack of structured and sustained support from the government for the Centre. In view of the epidemic proportions of the problem of stigmatized and abandoned children and the positive role being played by the Akwa Ibom State government and the police in picking up perpetrators now, the Child's Rights And Rehabilitation Network (CRARN) Centre at Ikot Afaha needs sustained government support to be able to cope with minimum expectations. Sam Ikpe-Itauma is struggling to cope with over 170 children (and still counting) with different types of needs twenty four hours a day. He's doing a huge social and moral service to the state and needs sustained support in form of a monthly budget for running the place and looking after the kids. While we applaud the Godswill Akpabio administration for standing up and doing something, we believe there is more to be done. We are ready to collaborate with the state and national government in all aspects of development of the Centre and the children. We will always help with resources and we will always contribute ideas when called upon to do so. But government must take the initiative. Indeed, we shall be putting pressure on governments at all levels, nationally and internationally, to stand up. While it is necessary in the short term to feed the children and all that, the long term goal should be to influence political power to guarantee the children's survival. But the work to get there must start now.

Another immediate aspect of the project is security. This is one that is just becoming obvious as a result of developments relating to the recent and ongoing arrests of some of those behind the incidences of child abuse and stigmatization of children. Mr Sam Ikpe-Itauma has been very helpful to the police in their work of arresting these people and presently, he's being threatened by supporters and followers of these fake prophets and prophetesses. The Centre where Sam and the children live is not secure. There is now the need to provide Sam and the kids some kind of security. Sam will be speaking with the police about this and we shall also be doing the same. Indeed, we shall be making appointments to see the police and government officials concerned in the coming week and when we do, we shall be proposing that a police post be stationed very near the Centre.

The last of our short-term goals is to open up channels of communication with church leaders and organizations within the state with the aim of letting them know what we think of the activities of their fringe membership and their responsibility to disown these people and help stamp out these practices from the body of Christ. We need to engage with the Christian Association of Nigeria (CAN), the Pentecostal Fellowship of Nigeria (PFN) and the traditional denominations as well over this issue. There has to be a proper dialogue between us and church leaders to establish what the ground rules should be, based on the gospel and their responsibility to children and community. We have to let them know that they have to be part of the solution to the problem they helped create. They have to call their rogue fringe to order and contribute towards proper rehabilitation of the children. They must take to the road to convince superstition-ravaged parents that the prevalent teachings about child witchcraft are wrong. They must use a combination of faith-based teachings, common sense and sheer reason to get to these people. We are not saying they should try to tell the people that belief in witchcraft is wrong or unscriptural. What we are saying is that they must tell the people that Christ's love for children comes before all else. They must tell the people that Christ never rejected any child or ask that they be tortured to confess to witchcraft.

We have members of the Nigerian Child Organization (NCO) who are practicing Christians, but who know that there is no gospel that enables child abuse under any guise. They and the rest of decent society will never stand for anyone giving Christianity a bad name. The Nigerian Child Organization NCO) shall be taking a very close look at doctrinaire Christianity as practiced by these various churches and would be exposing those whose doctrines and practices support child abuse and stigmatization. We shall continue to liaise with the larger church on these issues with a view to pressurizing them to lean on their erring membership to do the right thing by the children as commanded by Christ.

Medium-term goals of the project include fundraising activities for the Centre's other near-immediate needs. Mr Sam Ikpe-Itauma is struggling to cope with looking after these kids in a very challenging environment. There is a serious case of poor and irregular feeding there in the camp and lack of basic healthcare facilities. Those taking care of the kids right now are volunteers, but there may be the need to involve professional nutritionists, psychologists and doctors to come take a look at the children and their environment. We may have to organize missions from abroad for these purposes as well as part of our own fact-finding exercise. Of course, another way we can help ameliorate the situation is to help put pressure on the federal and state governments to provide the Centre with some kind of standard financial help, not something dependent on the whims and caprices of an official. Their survival does not have to depend on luck. The state has a duty to protect, feed and heal the children at the Centre.

Long-term goals would look into the educational infrastructure available with a view to improving these. The fact that the CRARN children are prevented from attending the Stepping Stones Model School at Uquo is a big scandal. Now that the Child Rights Act 2008 has been signed, we would expect the state government to put its foot down and, if necessary use force, to put the children in the classroom at the Stepping Stones Model School at Uquo. Obviously, we support a process of mediation and persuasion first. Local community leaders have to take the responsibility to convince their people that the CRARN children have as much right to education at the Stepping Stones Model School as their children. But, if talks and persuasion fails, then we would expect the state government to implement the provisions of the Child Rights Act 2008 which has now been signed into law. And, as we've said, if necessary, we will support the use of force to put the children in the classroom at the Stepping Stones Model School at Uquo or any other school, primary or secondary, in the area refusing to accept the CRARN children. In America, when racism and bigotry was at its height, government used force to put black children in classrooms and today we can see the result of that in a Barack Obama winning the presidency of the United States! It may be practically more difficult to effect the same policy with those learning trades, but the solution to that may be in the provision of vocational courses and training around the Centre.

Whatever the situation, we have to lead efforts to ensure that the kids' education at primary and secondary levels is not compromised by the presently hateful attitude of the community around them. While we will join the government to engage community leaders in talks, we shall also be investing in facilities within the Centre while constantly putting pressure on government at all levels to do same.

The social integration and awareness aspect of the project is one that overlaps in terms of time. It is something we have to start now and sustain as the kids grow up. One of the ways this can be achieved quickly is through public enlightenment campaigns and publication of targeted literature to be constantly distributed in the area particularly and throughout the state generally. We can employ the native press (the town criers and cultural troupes, for instance) to spread certain targeted messages across villages and towns. Another way is the involvement of the traditional press. The celebrated Nigerian press, with its vibrant reportorial and investigative culture must prove its worth over this issue. Of course, we understand that the Nigerian press is also part of the traditionally suppressive social culture that sometimes defines crimes and punishments in superstitious terms; but as the Fourth Estate, they are capable of easily breaking free of that circumscription as they've done severally on matters of huge national importance. There can be nothing of bigger national importance than the life and wellbeing of children.

Indeed, it is time the national press begins to enlighten and train itself as to what its role should be in this matter, just as they are expected to enlighten and educate the people. Our role would be to continue to encourage them to shine the light on the issues and to help highlight their negative effects on national development. We will do our bit to collaborate with the press closely in this matter because of its sensitivity and seriousness. We believe with proper management of the issue, they will rise up to their responsibility and help with spreading the awareness nationally. That is why, for starters, their presence is crucial at the Christmas party.

It is important that now that the Child Rights Act has been passed in the state that the press plays its role of maintaining vigilance against those who wish to continue in the old dastard way. This means that the press will be critical during investigations and prosecution of persons still engaged in this children stigmatization business. The press will need to constantly help educate the citizenry about their responsibilities in this matter. Social integration is not going to happen overnight, but we must all be working towards it with vigour and commitment.

Finally, it is necessary to note that in order to achieve our objectives above, we may need to organize ourselves into work groups, with specific targets. But all that can wait until early next year. Nonetheless, it is important for members to put all the above in mind, so that we know exactly where to concentrate and what to aim for when discussions on these aspects of our programme begin.



NB: The above is by no means an exhaustive list of what the Nigerian Stigmatized Children Reclamation Project (NSCRP) should be all about. Anyone would appreciate that there are issues that are not yet in the horizon, but which may come up anytime and which may need to be addressed. Indeed, there are issues such as monitoring the children's progress in their educational development, self-help efforts (through agriculture, for instance) and progressive study of individual attitude of each child in order to see how they can best be helped to adjust to society outside the Centre when the time comes. Indeed, what we have done is to assume the role of parents for each child. We therefore are not only going to provide financial and political support, but sustained emotional support as well.

Kenn
Jan 5, 2009, 04:45 PM
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Showers of fun as CRARN hold Christmas Party


By Ahaoma Kanu

Everybody that saw them took a minute or two to get entertained as they watched how beautifully cute and lovely they looked; they laughed, they danced and they really showed the world that they were humans, innocent boys and girls that deserved to be treated with respect, love, affection and an understanding that they are the future of their state, their country and the world in general and there is no stopping them.

The children of the Child Rights and Rehabilitation Network (CRARN) based at Ikot Afaha in Eket LGA of Akwa Ibom State, Nigeria were a sight to behold as they celebrated their Christmas Party on the 23rd of December 2008. And they have the Nigeria Child Group (NCG) and other organisations to thank for the fun galore and exciting moments they had during the event.

Eleven year old Comfort Bassey, a child at the centre, captured the celebration as being a day they lived and were seen as normal children by the community and people that had hitherto branded them witches and wizards.

"People watched us and smiled; they waved at us and danced to our music. For once, they saw us as normal children doing things to make them happy."

It is no longer news about the infamous and nefarious man's inhumanity to children going on in some communities in Akwa Ibom State and its environs after the United Kingdom's Channel 4 Television broadcasted the documentary "Saving Africa's Witch Children" on Wednesday, 12th of November, 2008. The world was informed of the how some religious institutions ordained traditional practices and beliefs in witchcraft to perpetuate a massive pogrom on children by diagnosing them as witches and wizards responsible for assumed misfortunes and ill lucks lurking in some families. Their verdict most times was passed according to a law culled from a verse in the bible which commands them to "suffer not a witch to live." While an uncountable number of the defenceless children from the ages of three months to 15 years were unlucky to lose their lives by being tortured to death, buried alive or roasted through a trial of ordeal to make them confess to being witches, some lucky one were banished from the land or left in thick evil forests to die. Many survived and became members of the CRARN founded by Mr. Sam Ikpe-Ituama to cater for them and protect them from a society they were once part of.

The emotional documentary shook the whole world and made many curse the churches that were involved in the act while others wrote petitions to the government to act on some of the perpetuators of the act especially a self-confessed Bishop that claimed to have killed 110 children. The government of Akwa Ibom State led by Mr. Goodswill Akpabio suddenly woke up to their responsibilities to protect the lives of the affected children and went on a face saving operation to prosecute the offenders.

A group of Nigerians and friends of Nigeria took a step than actual criticisms and condemnations associated with the exposé; they came under the umbrella of the Nigeria Child google group to find a means of affecting the children in a way that would be sustainable. The group soon metamorphosed to the Nigeria Child Group after member participation became overwhelming. Their interaction and actions gave rise to a Christmas party for the children and it was one hell of a gig.

The party started with a Awareness Rally and carnival-like ride through the major streets in Eket and Esit Eket communities of Eket Local Council, cheering people dressed in their silk attires with painted faces and jerry curled hair style for the girls while the boys had a smart looking hair cut. The people were taken by surprise and had to give in to their better judgement as they waved at the carnival train that blasted cool Nigerian music to the delight of everyone. If the carnival train and the music did not get your attention, then the dance steps of the children will surely arrest your admiration and leave you with a smile that propels the hand to wave and dance at the same time.

After completing the round down Eket town, the train came back to the beautifully decorated CRARN centre which was the venue for the event. Already, the venue was bearing a party setting with canopies mounted, chairs arranged and ribbons of different colours giving the arena a silky feeling of Christmas.

As the two MC's that took charge of the occasion declared the party started, it was never a dull moment till the end.

The party started with an opening prayer by 8 –year old Joshua who prayed a touching prayer asking God to make the day a memorable one and bless the people that helped in making the event a grand one.

"God make the people keep seeing us as normal people as they all did today and also touch the hearts of our parents to know that we are not witches and wizards," he prayed.

The MC ordained him Pastor Joshua immediately to the applause of the crowd. Personalities were called to the high table starting from the President of the CRARN, Sam Ituama, followed by Mrs. Anne Medikong, a Nigerian by marriage who has been helping the centre for a long time. Interestingly, the white lady has married and being in Oron since 1974 and could speak the Ibibio language fluently. The representative of the Nigeria Child Group, Mr. Ahaoma Kanu, was also called to the high table. Other guests like the Governor, the wife of the governor, the Commissioner for Information and leaders of different religious institutions were visibly absent with nobody to represent them but it was not noticed as the excitement that hung in the air added more distinguished feeling to the event.

The first presentation was by the CRARN children who were clad in their different coloured clothes of pink, sky blue, green and yellow, they performed their welcome song to the delight of all. The welcome song was emotionally moving with lyrics that pleaded with society to have a change of mind towards the children. It welcomed everybody from far and near with whatever belief or insinuation to their Christmas party in the song that had part of its lyrics thus:

"We are here to celebrate with you on our Christmas Party day

We are kids from the CRARN academy and we are here to bring knowledge to the land

We are here to celebrate with you on our Christmas Party day.

You are welcome; you are welcome to our Christmas Party day."

Isn't that touching?

After the welcome song, the President and Chairman-in-waiting, according to the MCs, of the CRARN gave his opening speech. He welcomed everybody to the party and used the opportunity to thank the organizations that helped in making the party a reality.

"We are very grateful to you all for showing us that people really care for us and love us as human beings without any prejudice."

He also advised the communities to see the children as normal kids with normal lives that need love, care and affection.

It was then time for the first act of the day to present their performance and PRG, three –man group, made an appearance on their stylish white shirt, loosened ties and black trousers. They started by giving the children some soothing words of encouragement concerning their circumstances.

They said that the environment oppressing the children inspired the track.

"We feel very sad about what is happening to the children, parents needs to call these children home and show them love because they are the leaders of tomorrow," they said.

"Maybe your parents have done something bad to you, don't give up because you are special and you will get there," they said. They went on to perform a track that boosted the confidence of the children entitled, Don't Give Up.

The next act called Ame P came hard on the parents that were involved in the inhumanity to the children but consoled and gave hope to the CRARN kids in his song Change Your Way. His performance was strictly for the children and he faced them throughout the duration of his show time. He waved his hands in the air and all the kids waved back and chorused after him, Change Your Life style.

Ame P confided to NCG that he had to hit the parents because of how he feels about the discrimination going on.

"When I look around the society and see the discrimination going on, it brings pain to my heart and I feel like crying. I sat down and composed something that will touch people to change their lifestyle," he said.

After the thrilling performances, the children choir of CRARN led by the head teacher, Mrs. Rebecca Abiana and Juliana John came and delivered Christmas songs to the applause of the crowd. A comic member of the choir that made the children laugh a lot due to his demonstrations was the Party Mascot called Ekpeyong who danced to the Christmas carols to the envy of Santa Claus who though all day long that the party was supposed to be his thing. Both found a way around the event and became friends throughout the event.

It was during that time the first set of visitors of repute came, the entourage of Obong Mkparawa, King of the Boys, Obong Marcualay Thompson Akwaowo and the Village Chairman of Ikot Odiong, Mr John came into the event to give a cultural and traditional colour to the occasion. The children marched out to welcome the guests before reading out the keynote address that focused on their plight on being regarded as witches and wizards.

To buttress the point, the CRARN cultural troupe performed three presentations that depicted how the Child Witch phenomenon destabilizes families, disintegrates the child from receiving parental love and care and sets them on collision with the society which hunts them as predators. The result of the assault most of them pass through is gory, painful and results in psychological trauma, social discrimination and in most cases instant death without a chance of the children defending themselves. They called on the people and the government to have a rethink and accept them as normal as none of them are guilty of the sins for which they are sentenced for.

After the sympathy-loaded speech by 13 year old Emmanuel, the Obong responded by assuring the children that their plight is being looked into by both the traditional council and government.

"For the fact that I came here with my entourage right from the local council from which I collected my certificate shows you that our community accepts you all as our children," he said.

It was then time for the CRARN beauty pageant to produce Miss CRARN 2009, girls from the ages of 8-12 were called upon to participate in the beauty contest and they came out ready for some show off and they did present the crowd with majestic catwalks that elicited excitement, happiness and joy from the crowd.

After close to 30 minutes of careful unbiased display of the most captivating catwalks in the face of the whole Ikot Afaha, Miss Ime Godwin Mbok (11 years) emerged the winner and was declared Miss CRARN 2009, her victory attracted a whole lot of jubilation and she was showered with gifts of money amounting to over N2000.

When she did her victory dance around the arena, there was no doubting the decision of the jury which comprised of a democratic process of asking the people to elect their Queen; Miss CRARN became the dancing queen and showcased dance steps fit only for a royalty.

The boy's competition was in dancing and Etuk (8 years) beat his counterpart Ubong (11) to become the newly crowned Mr. Dance of CRARN.

The competitions then opened the floor for the CRARN cultural dancing troupe to present their dance drama that saw almost all the women and men joining in the dancing that involved a lot of waist bending and foot shuffling in a manner known only to the dancers but drew admiration from the crowd. The ovation was the loudest and was made more pronounced by the explosion of canon fireworks courtesy of the Obong.

The most colourful display involved the masquerade section by the CRARN children; their masquerade danced in a circular motion amidst traditional hailing from both his entourage and the crowd who were delighted to have the masquerade display which came as a surprise.

It was then time for group presentations by the kids and it came in a couple form; the children, dressed in cultural clothes depicting the different ethnic groups in Nigeria, entertained the crowd by informing them of the culture they represented as well as performing the dance of that particular ethnic group.

The cultural display gave room for refreshment and the children were fed to their fill as they were served with packaged rice and the drink of their choice; they all ate to their fill and that gave room for the dancing that soon ensued till the end of the party.

While delivering the vote of thanks, the CRARN president thanked all the guests that were present and showered his gratitude on the Nigeria Child Group that sponsored the party.

"We are very grateful and will keep saying special prayers for you all," he said.

Some of the children expressed their gratitude to NCG for giving them a wonderful Christmas party.

"I will like to say thank you NGC for coming to our aid and we wish you a merry Christmas and a happy new year," Comfort Bassey said.

One of the children went round the arena holding a placard that summed up all what the children had to say to the group; the placard read, "THANK YOU NIGERIA CHILD ORGANIZATION."

WaleAkin
Jan 8, 2009, 11:56 PM
Some photographs from the Childrens' party.
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Remember Mary? The Girl chased away from the family house by the Uncle with a matchete in the Channel 4 documentary..........She is happy at CRARN

WaleAkin
Jan 9, 2009, 12:05 AM
More Pixes...........

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The March past:D:D

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WaleAkin
Jan 9, 2009, 12:10 AM
The Man himself Mr Sam Ituama(Middle). Lets give it to him cos hes a rare breed.:hail::hail: and our very own amiable Okenikpoto
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VOR
Feb 7, 2009, 10:50 PM
Video #1 -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_bDcj-EduU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_bDcj-EduU)

#2 -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLnYVNYp6HE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLnYVNYp6HE)

#3 -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebpSkfN-61w (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebpSkfN-61w)

#4 -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0aUX_U7dXw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0aUX_U7dXw)

#5 -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUxqsX9RUIU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUxqsX9RUIU)

#6 -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nKSNYn_5x0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nKSNYn_5x0)

#7 -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thb6HSZgdL8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thb6HSZgdL8)

#8 -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-p9_UNBb6YE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-p9_UNBb6YE)

#9 -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wQ1HwBOyTI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wQ1HwBOyTI)

#10 -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5UEGedYUD8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5UEGedYUD8)

#11 -- missing for now

#12 -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-KtGKRtVVo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-KtGKRtVVo)

#13 -- http://www.youtube.com (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLU7Z-sIqKw)

No Smoking
Feb 7, 2009, 11:31 PM
My concern remains that efforts should be mad to integrate these children into the regular system. If they remain segregated, the witchcraft stigma will stick with them into adulthood and become an unshakeable problem.

emj
Feb 17, 2009, 09:00 PM
http://www.234next.com/csp/cms/sites/Next/News/National/4897287-146/Minister_alleges_that_children_were_paid.csp :source

Someone shld teach our dear Minister not to Fib...Fibbing is not Diplomatic...Torture might not be a State Policy..but those Children were sure Tortured.



Minister alleges that children were paid to admit torture

By Ayo Okulaja

February 15, 2009 11:20AMT
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Two months after the world was regaled with the revelation of mutilated, and abused children from Eket in Akwa Ibom state for being witches and wizards, the first official reaction from the federal government has come from far away Geneva.

The Minister for Foreign Affair, Ojo Madueke, leading the Nigeria delegation to the United Nations Universal Periodic Review (UPR) on human rights in Geneva, Monday denied that torture is an official state policy in Nigeria, suggesting however that the "children were paid to say they were tortured."

Madueke made this comment while answering questions in response to his official statement at a question and answer session after he presented the official Nigerian statement at the UN assembly.

The universal periodic review (UPR) is an assessment of human rights condition in particular countries and the current edition , the fourth in the history of the UN was dedicated to Nigeria, Russia, China and Azerbaijan, considered as trouble spots of official human rights violations.

Madueke declined a telephone interview from Geneva Wednesday to elaborate on this issue saying "I do not grant interviews on phone."

The children are held in shelters managed by the nongovernmental organisation, child right rehabilitation network centre (CRARN), with support from Nigerian citizens.

Children at the CRARN shelter were reportedly given up by their parents for witchcraft and handed over to pastors who put the children through torture that are beyond words for exorcism.

Civic organisations immediately fired pot shots at the minister Wednesday characterizing his comments in Geneva as "odious and unfortunate." Speaking to NEXT on Sunday, Chijoke Odum, chairperson civil liberties organisation of Nigeria [CLO], said "The minister told a lie because investigation revealed otherwise."

"There are evidences of psychological trauma in the children, in their speech, and in their eyes you see the loss of childhoodness" insist Odum who said "The sign of trauma is indelible evidence [of torture]"

The CLO president maintains that: "there are also biological evidences, when you go through their bodies; you will see lacerations, scars, enduring scars, marks that were not sustained during childbirth or childhood play or fun, marks that were deliberately made."

He also wants paediatricians brought in to determine the degree, depth, and age of the body lacerations, asking "How come no one contradicted any of the evidence months after the children articulated them and cried out except this one purported instance by the minister?"

Odum who stated that "Torture is not something you claim but you prove it" is unhappy that the minister is trying to defend the deplorable act of religious fanaticism, when the offence was not committed by the state/government. He wants to show the international community that all is well in Nigeria particularly at the religious level but this is all lies."

Odum's views are shared by Olasupo Ojo, president of committee for the defence of human rights (CDHR), who also flayed the foreign affairs minister. "Maduekwe believes everything should be politicised and sees everything from the spectacle of politics not based on principles."

Olasupo Ojo maintains too that "What happen in Akwa-Ibom is well known to all Nigerians that there was torture, and for the foreign affairs minister to now go and tell the UN that it didn't happen mocks the entire nation."

"Such discrepancies by a nation will never allow the world to take us seriously and that explains our denial a seat in the UN Security Council because we are signatory to so many international treaties particularly on human rights yet we do not honour the treaties domestically" concludes Mr Ojo

Highlighting some of the UN treaties Nigeria is signatory to and ratified some them;

-UN international convention on torture

-International covenant on civil and political right

-UN convention against torture and other cruel inhuman and degrading treatment

-African chatter on human and people's right

-UN code of code conduct for law enforcement officials

-UN basic principle on the use of force and firearm by law enforcements agents

-The European convention for the prevention of torture and human degrading treatment /punishment.

Also Section 27 and 28 of the Nigeria evidence act derecognises any evidence or confessional statement obtained through torture.

Section 15 of the criminal and penal code prohibits even police and law enforcement officers from bridging fundamental human in the process of law enforcement.


The above is what our very able Minister had to say abroad

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http://www.vanguardngr.com/content/view/28921/80/ :source


Succour as ‘child witches'are reunited with their parents
Written by Buki Ponle
Tuesday, 17 February 2009

Utit-Ofon, aged seven years, and her 10-month-old sister, Utibe, were pronounced witches'' by a local church in February 2008. That was at Uquo, a village in the Esit Eket Local Government Area in Akwa Ibom, described by the natives as a notorious haven for child witches who ``fly even in the daytime? Rattled by the pronouncement of the church, the mother, Mayen Sunday-John, decided to end it all with her two daughters.

Mayen's decision is based on the fact that once a child is confirmed'' to be a witch or wizard, he or she is stigmatised and until a church conducts a purification exercise, the child stands condemned in the family, as well as in the community.

Mayen, in her 30s, had just lost her husband, and to heighten her sorrow, her husband's building was razed by a mysterious fire thereafter. Her mini-mart also went down in calamity.

The string of disasters must certainly be the evil machinations of her own daughters, the church declared.

These signs portrayed her children as witches because when a calamity befalls a family, especially in this way and in this part of the country, then there must be witches among the children.

All Mayen wanted was a confirmation of her mindset, and in no other place than the church whose pastors claimed to have cleansed?? child ``witches'' and ``wizards'' of their evil powers for pecuniary reward.

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Children suspected of witchcraft: The Akwa Ibom Perception - a deeply held belief by the Efik speaking communities in Cross River and Akwa Ibom States cuts across all tiers of society. Photo: Courtesy Stepping Stones.
But she could not afford the N15,000 charged by the church to set her children ``free'' and, out of anger and frustration, she sent the daughters to a centre established by an NGO, the Child

Rights and Rehabilitation Network (CRARN).Mayen swore ``never to see the children again''.

However, two weeks after, the mother in her yielded, at least momentarily. So she went for the younger daughter and turned her back on Utit-Ofon, the older girl.

It was not until August 2008 that the centre, situated at Ikot Afaha in Eket, and rumoured among the locals to possess healing powers'', reconciled Utit-Ofon with her mother. `We don't have spiritual power to exorcise these children who are not witches in the first place. What we do is counselling and taking good care of the children who become unaffected after a while,'' remarks the President of the network, Sam Ikpe-Itauma.

Yet in a run-down fishing settlement at Ibaka, near Oron, in the same state, lives Julie Isaac Usung-Urua, who abandoned her

eight-year-old daughter, Comfort Edet Okon, at the centre for six years because the girl was declared a witch and a social pollutant.

As in other tales of child witchcraft, Julie, 48, lived a life of comfort with her Nigerian husband in Cameroon before separation. She had six children, but only three survived, including Comfort, the last child.

She relocated with her children to Nigeria in 2003 and remarried, but lived with her relations, who later started to accuse her of bringing misfortune to the family members. As fishermen, my relations started complaining of shrinking catches the day Comfort was brought home,'' recounts Julie.

So, the ``root cause'' of the misfortune, of course, was Comfort,who was later beaten to a pulp and made to ``confess'' after a church had declared her a witch.

Comfort became the first child to be rescued and admitted to the rehabilitation centre in 2003, but was reconciled with her mother on Jan. 28, 2009. Observers wonder why any sane mother, after carrying two pregnancies successfully in a country where maternal and child mortality is one of the highest in the world, tag herchildren witches and throw them away?

What would make a mother reject her child after she had lost three already? `I was misled by a church and the community, and I fell into it because I was down and out, and there was nowhere to turn to. I regret my action and I hope my children have forgiven me,'' says Mayen

``I went back to take the younger one because I started having sleepless nights, and because of the church's hold on me with its pronouncements on my children I became hardened against my first child.

The other reason for the abandonment is the community which stigmatised my children, but God could not have been happy with me if I had allowed them to die,'' recalls the mother amid sobs.

As she lay on her back in the thatched apartment, cuddling her children at Uquo village, Mayen recounts with nostalgia the good old days when her husband was alive.

Now she is a squatter in this building, the dwelling place of her aunt and her husband. `I need a home and money to start a small business so I can send the children to school. You only think of witches and wizards when you lack money, and that is why the church has capitalised on people's misfortune,'' she speaks though an interpreter.

Mayen says since the return of her children, no catastrophe has befallen the family, attesting to the fact that all is well with them spiritually, physically and mentally.

``I now look at some of these churches as a place of deceit, though I still go to the church, not that particular church'', shesays, pointing in its direction.

``So government should investigate their activities,'' she adds. Her daughter, Utit-Ofon, looking healthy and oblivious of her past, expresses joy at being reconciled with her mother.``I am longing to go back to school because I was in primary II at the centre,'' she says.

If Utit-Ofon is happy, perhaps Comfort could be described an embodiment of ecstasy. After being denied parental care for six years out of her 14 years of living, she was back home at last on Jan. 28, 2009 from the centre.

Popularly referred to as the ``Mother of the Camp'', being the first girl to be rescued and brought to the centre, Comfort says: ``Although I miss my colleagues, there is nothing as sweet as home.''

She was already in Primary 5 in the school run by the centre, and to ensure continuity in her education, the centre has awarded her a scholarship up to the university level.

``I am not a witch, and no matter what has happened to me, I will ensure that I use my past to straighten my future and be an ambassador for child survival and protection,'' Comfort says.

Her mother is equally happy over the reunion, saying that ``her (Comfort's) absence haunted me.

``At a stage, I became convinced that she was not a witch, so I started visiting her at the centre up to 2006, and when I felt she was comfortable enough, I stopped not because I did not want her, but because I had no means to support her if I had removed her from the Centre,'' she says through an interpreter.

Now a grandmother, Julie is appealing to other parents to have a change of heart and reunite with their children still living in the centre in a process that requires government intervention.

The centre has reunited at least 100 of such children with their parents, according to Ikpe-Itauma, the CRARN President. It is sad that some churches, instead of being intermediaries, have compounded the child-witch phenomenon by diagnosing without curing.

Government and Christian associations should step into this,''Mayen counsels.

Just as Mayen demands, Julie also wants government to empower indigent parents to check the rampant abandonment of children.

``It is only among poor people that cases of child witch and wizard exist,'' she says.

Observers note that at last, the state government has waded into the issue, with the arrest and the prosecution of some pastors, the construction of rehabilitation centres and the strengthening of the law to protect children from all forms of abuse and neglect.

A child rights advocate, Mr Adewole Adeoye, wants the government to identify the children at the rehabilitation centre and return them to their parents as well as fund their education without further delay.

Their parents should be offered jobs and loans to start their lives afresh, while the government should step up its enlightenment campaign against the child witch trend, he suggests.

peterosa
Feb 17, 2009, 10:11 PM
This is so heart-wrenching to watch!

Are there any Akwa-Ibom/Cross River people in this village?

i need to ask a few questions

Who will agree he is from akwa ibom/cross river with this atrocity charls4 are you there.

lateesha
Feb 17, 2009, 11:04 PM
There's a youtube clip of the same thing happening in edo/delta and someone earlier on this thread talked of a similar incidence in Yoruba land.
It's not just an Akwa Ibom issue.
Evil reigns supreme in Nigeria and ought to be dealt with as a Nigerian problem.
The world sees it as a Nigerian ill and I'm sure every community has similar things going on,just hadn't made the headlines yet.

VOR
Apr 7, 2009, 10:52 PM
Update:

A letter has been sent to Sam Ikpe-Itauma (CRARN) Gary Foxtrot (Stepping Stones) and Channel 4 by lawyers supposedly representing Helen Ukpabio of the Liberty Gospel Foundation demanding an apology for the Channel 4 programme on the Akwa Ibom "witch" children. They demand the apology is published in 3 Nigerian newspapers on 3 consecutive days.

A portion of the letter reads:

"The apology must recant in clear and unambiguous terms the false statement and insinuation of bad character contained in your callous and libelous publication/documenatry against our clients' and this must also be telecast on BBC Channel04, BBC WORLD and on the CNN on three consecutive days thereof"
If the demand is not met, they threaten to sue for 10billion Naira "in consideration for the emotional trauma, pains, distress, hate and anguish you have caused out clients"

Sam is being advised.

area boy
Apr 8, 2009, 02:56 PM
Perhaps, she can get an apology the moment she reverses the damage she's done to defenceless children and openly declares herself a fake preacher..... perhaps...
" emotional trauma, pains, distress, hate and anguish " my left foot .. nonsense. :rant:

Iroabuchi Onwuka
Apr 9, 2009, 02:33 AM
Dont you know that negative statistics and bias kill any economy. Akwa Ibom is of one the richest oil droplet in Africa. As much we come against such psychology in Jesus name and ask God to help deliver such children, but what are these white people doing in Akwa-Ibom. A few days ago - on sunday to be precise - NBC of US, a whole NBC (NATIONAL BROADCASTING CORPORATION) devoted a substantial portion of thier primetime hour on a documentary about Nigerian 419. This is coming in the heels of dening Nigeria invitation to the G-20 group meeting in London. Before they will be instability in that area. It is only of late have we found out that certain french element were involved in the agitation of Rwandan genocide.

George Soros' representatives, Merryl lynch representatives among others, visited and expressed interest in Nigeria, and I think they loved what they saw. The next thing is for their colleagues to find a way to destroy the social and psychological image on this country starting with oil rich Akwa-Ibom and Lagos. This of course is done without thier consent. If Nigeria don't take thier time and militarily re-arm its seas and borders, I see an invasion of that country in the name of peace. I am from the market and from New York and I can tell you that Blacks in NY are all but finished with negative and very wicked news analyses. Negative sentiments in business simply destroy your economy. That's what is going.

If you doubt me, ask yourself why and how did Nigeria miss out of hosting the common wealth games in 2014. Go back and review and you will see that BBC brought nothing but bad news about Nigeria and about kidnap which Nigerian police and state service said were unconfirmed. The kidnap news stopped on the very day that the hosting rights were announced and awarded to Scotland. BBC is your enemy not your friend. Look at the disaster of the beauty peageant and how they reckless spurn news about Nigeria. I was in New York when this issue about kidnap, some unconfirmed kidnap was going on and somehow I knew what was going to happen, that we were likely to loose out of the bid. What BBC did was to indirectly scare the voting committee out of thier wits with all that kidnap news. And when they succeeded they returned to the news about Africa and about progress in Lagos. SO excoriate child killing and expose it if you can but please tell UK channel 4 or 'forge' to hang themselves.

Yours in righteouness.

Anioma777
Apr 9, 2009, 08:32 AM
@Onwuka


Dont you know that negative statistics and bias kill any economy. Akwa Ibom is of one the richest oil droplet in Africa. As much we come against such psychology in Jesus name and ask God to help deliver such children, but what are these white people doing in Akwa-Ibom. A few days ago - on sunday to be precise - NBC of US, a whole NBC (NATIONAL BROADCASTING CORPORATION) devoted a substantial portion of thier primetime hour on a documentary about Nigerian 419. This is coming in the heels of dening Nigeria invitation to the G-20 group meeting in London. Before they will be instability in that area. It is only of late have we found out that certain french element were involved in the agitation of Rwandan genocide.

George Soros' representatives, Merryl lynch representatives among others, visited and expressed interest in Nigeria, and I think they loved what they saw. The next thing is for their colleagues to find a way to destroy the social and psychological image on this country starting with oil rich Akwa-Ibom and Lagos. This of course is done without thier consent. If Nigeria don't take thier time and militarily re-arm its seas and borders, I see an invasion of that country in the name of peace. I am from the market and from New York and I can tell you that Blacks in NY are all but finished with negative and very wicked news analyses. Negative sentiments in business simply destroy your economy. That's what is going.

If you doubt me, ask yourself why and how did Nigeria miss out of hosting the common wealth games in 2014. Go back and review and you will see that BBC brought nothing but bad news about Nigeria and about kidnap which Nigerian police and state service said were unconfirmed. The kidnap news stopped on the very day that the hosting rights were announced and awarded to Scotland. BBC is your enemy not your friend. Look at the disaster of the beauty peageant and how they reckless spurn news about Nigeria. I was in New York when this issue about kidnap, some unconfirmed kidnap was going on and somehow I knew what was going to happen, that we were likely to loose out of the bid. What BBC did was to indirectly scare the voting committee out of thier wits with all that kidnap news. And when they succeeded they returned to the news about Africa and about progress in Lagos. SO excoriate child killing and expose it if you can but please tell UK channel 4 or 'forge' to hang themselves.


Nwokem I am struggling to see what connection the obvious "child witches" saga in Akwa Ibom has got to do with Western dubios interest in Nigeria. The G20 snub of Nigeria was correct. Nigeria is not in the top 20 industrial and rich countries so why should they expect an invitation. Nigeria can hardly supply light for 20 days consistently in every town and you expect there is some conspiracy against Nigeria. As for the Commonwealth Games in 2014. The money we spend hosting a stupid and worthless competition will be better spent providing jobs and more important projects.

You should be aware that Westerners dont need to try even 0.1% to sabotage Nigeria. We already do that to ourselves, so its a no brainer.

UDEMEAKPAN
Apr 9, 2009, 11:06 AM
@ Anioma 777,
Thank you my broda. I now do not need to answer the nonsense above. I suppose, we are in season for jesters again; blaming the white man for our self-inflicted idiocy.

VOR
Apr 9, 2009, 11:49 AM
Areaboy, when I read the letter from the so called lawyers for Ms. Upkabio, I laughed so hard, I had tears streaming down my face - what a bunch of moro.ns!! I wont be surprised if the "Barrister" is a member of Liberty church (?)

Anyway, since the deadline has passed and no apology is forthcoming......I guess we'll see them in court!!! nonsense and jagbajantis.......:lol:

Who ought to sue for "emotional trauma, pains, distress, hate and anguish" if not the children. In a lawful country that woman will be cooling off in some facility not prancing about the place threatening to sue.

@ Anioma 777 - Thanks bro!!! sometimes I do marvel at how some of our people are skilled at ruthlessly tackling the ringworm whilst leaving the leprosy to run riot!!!:evil::rolleyes:






Perhaps, she can get an apology the moment she reverses the damage she's done to defenceless children and openly declares herself a fake preacher..... perhaps...
" emotional trauma, pains, distress, hate and anguish " my left foot .. nonsense. :rant:

Kenn
Apr 9, 2009, 01:22 PM
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Dear All,

There is no cause for alarm. Helen Ukpabio needs to first hire good lawyers. The ones that wrote these pleadings and served them are charlatans! The facts of libel must be clearly stated in the pleadings, but the ignorant lawyers do not seem to know the difference between the BBC and Channel 4! If you have no idea of the entity or entities you are suing, how can you make a good case against them in a court of law?

Anyway, the irrefutable fact is that the broadcast by way of the TV documentary is not a production of CRARN. There is no part of the various interviews conducted and showed during the programme that had Sam Ikpe- Itauma, CRARN or any of its representatives saying anything about Ukpabio or her church. Her sole encounter in the film in question was with the Dispatches reporter. I have no doubt that this case will go nowhere. The only thing I can see here is that Ukpabio wants, at the very least, to get CRARN to spend some money on lawyers. This is where I expect the tough-talking government of Governor Godswill Akpabio to put their money where their mouth is. This is an attempt by those they have been fighting to fight back. They obviously are not happy with the role Sam played in helping the police to track down some of the culprits. They have assessed the situation and now think their best bet is to attack Sam and CRARN who they think are most vulnerable.

It is my opinion that we have to now prevail on the Akwa Ibom State government to immediately join the fray on the side of CRARN. They should immediately pick up the legal bill and make sure Sam and CRARN have the best representation in court. They must do this to protect CRARN and the public and, more importantly, having garnered enough information about Ukpabio and her church through the security services, they must use the floor of the court to expose her for what she is.

I have spoken to Sam on this issue and I have told him of the intention of the Nigerian Child Organisation (NCO) to contact the state government on his behalf and get them on the case. It is my hope that after the holiday, we will make contact with them and put across our suggestions. Whatever happens though, I'm confident that the disgrace will be Ukpabio's.



CHEERS!

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blooming_i
Apr 9, 2009, 01:52 PM
Iroabuchi Onwuka, I don't understand your point. So, it's a negative publicity when records showed the dastardly acts of terror performed on these children? I don't seem to see the conspiracy theory you are trying to make us see with your comments. Let face facts and stop the buck-passing.

valteena
Apr 22, 2009, 08:10 PM
War over witches
•As pastors fight over demons

Tuesday, April 21, 2009

Source The Sun News


Helen Ukpabio, tele-evangelist, church founder, film actor and movie producer, is one clergywoman who can smoke out one witch in a crowd of millions of saints. Or so it seems.

Nearly all her films, which however are anchored on morality, has some elements of futile display of witchcraft powers which eventually get subdued by the power of the Holy Spirit.
Thus, when she literally came to paint Uyo red (her members actually marched in the streets wearing reddish T-Shirts) about three weeks ago, on a campaign which theme was “Coven on Naked Wire”, then it was obvious that something witching was in the air.

And those who expected a bountiful harvest of witches advised in the crusade posters to come out for free deliverance, were not disappointed as it was reported that more than 500 people, mostly children voluntary went out to label themselves witches or wizard in order to get the awoof deliverance.
But that is where the story began to get K-leg according to Apostle John Okoriko, the founder and president of Solid Rock Kingdom Church, whose church along Ikot Ekpene Road Uyo is only about 300 metres from Helen Ukpabio’s Liberty Gospel Church situated in the same axis.

Okoriko told The Sun a few days after the “Coven on Naked Wire” crusade that the claim of delivering 500 witches and wizards was nothing but a charade since there were no such number of witches in Uyo, as such the claim was fraudulent and ungodly especially when Ukpabio was reported to have instructed those delivered to be attending the various branches of her church for eight months for them to be monitored.

“It is embarrassing in 21st century where every nation is going scientific and to the space that we are still talking about witchcraft. It is time we faced reality and not absurdity. I strongly disagree with the notion that Akwa Ibom state has been taken over by witches.”

He said if at all there were witches and wizards in Uyo, they were not up to 10, not to talk of 500 who purportedly did the confession in a single church programme.
“I challenge all prophets and apostles to open contest to prove if there is more than one witch in Akwa Ibom. In the Bible we hear of the Witch of Endor; which means there is always one witch at a time in a town; not 500.

“And how can you tell 500 people who voluntarily confessed witchcraft to be attending your church for good or bad eight months for them to be completely delivered. Witchcraft is no spirit; it is a think of the flesh like drunkenness, fornication or stealing so it doesn’t call for spiritual deliverance,” he reasoned.
Okoriko stressed that church leaders who are benefiting from the alleged witches were manipulating people to conference, adding that such assumed witches are always the poor.

This thing is dragging our state backward; people have been brainwashed to think negatively. If the suffer a slight misfortune in their businesses instead of looking for practical solution, the pastors will tell them that they are attacked by witches and the person will become a slave to the pastors. It is sad.
“If this state has been taken over by witchcraft, why can’t we use witchcraft to achieve good things; at least win international football matches? All we need to do is put eleven bewitched boys on the pitch and win the world cup.

These so-called men of God are hireling or spiritual mercenaries,” he declared.
If Akwa Iboºm has only one witch or wizard, so who is the witch of Uyo? And the 500 that paraded themselves as witches? Okoriko says: “They are fake witches.”

Thank God another pastor is showing her out for what she really is "a fake taking advantage and feeding fat off the ignorance and fear of the poor.

VOR
Apr 22, 2009, 08:18 PM
Thanks Sis. I was going to post it but you beat me to it.

Lets see if she will sue this pastor too for defamation. I wonder how many children are going to go through another round of torture in the name of deliverance now she has taken her vile preaching to Akwa Ibom again:evil:


Thank God another pastor is showing her out for what she really is "a fake taking advantage and feeding fat off the ignorance and fear of the poor.

Kenn
May 15, 2009, 07:52 AM
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http://www.thisdayonline.com/nview.php?id=143426

Child Witch: Bishop, 4 Others Arraigned

From Okon Bassey in Uyo, 05.15.2009


Self-styled Bishop, Sunday Okon Williams, who allegedly killed 110 children in Akwa Ibom State, in an attempt to exorcise witchcraft from them, was yesterday arraigned before an Oron High Court, along with four others. They are facing torture and murder charges.

Williams, founder of a spiritual healing home at Ibaka, Mbo Local Government area, was arrested November last year, following a documentary: Saving Africa's Witch Children," broadcast by the United Kingdom (UK) Channel 4 station on November 12, 2008.

In the documentary, the accused, during an interview, allegedly admitted killing more than 110 children in Akwa Ibom State, as he claimed to possess the power to exorcise witchcraft spirits from children.

Embarrassed by the documentary, the state government, in conjunction with security operatives, moved swiftly to arrest and charged them to Court.

Although the accused persons pleaded not guilty when the charges were read out to them, the Presiding Judge, Justice Archibong Archibong, ordered that they be remanded at the Eket Prison.

The other accused persons include Pastor Samuel Excellence, Udeme Okon William, Ezekiel Bassey Oforkudok and Akpe Alfred Akpe.

Justice Archibong maintained that the accused could not be granted bail because of the serious nature of the case. He indicated that such application or order for bail should be made more formal before the court.

In an interview, Commissioner for Information and Social Re-orientation, Mr Aniekan Umanah, said the appearance of the accused in court was a practical demonstration of the government's determination to safeguard rights of children of Akwa Ibom State, as enshrined in the Child Rights Act 2008.

The suit number HOR/3C/2009, State vs Bishop Sunday Okon William and Four others, was adjourned till June 8, 2009, for continuation of hearing.


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Lotus Flower
Jun 23, 2009, 09:13 AM
Hello folks

On Monday 22 June 2009 at 8.30PM on the ABC (Australian Broadcasting Corporation), this extremely sad and sorry affair was aired on the 'Four Corners' TV investigative programme titled:

"An investigation into Africa's 'witch children' and how they are branded evil, beaten, tortured and sometimes killed in the name of God'.

I believe the ABC will be rebroadcasting it again.

I have had a fairly interesting discussion at work with my colleagues who are fairly disgusted (as I am) about the abuse of children and religion. :(

Check out the website on http://www.abc.net.au/4corners/content/2009/s2601755.htm

Saving Africa's Witch Children
Reporter: Channel 4

Broadcast: 22/06/2009

The Niger River Delta in Africa is a living hell for many of its people. Massive industrial projects have poisoned the land and the water. Sickness and disease are rampant. The source of the region's problems is clear but many people do not blame the government, instead they have turned on their own children.

Encouraged by a group of evangelical preachers these parents are told to believe that their bad luck is the work of Satan, given human form in their own offspring. Their children are accused of making people ill, of poisoning food and polluting the drinking water.

Denounced as 'Satan made flesh' by powerful pastors and prophetesses, the children are abandoned, tortured, starved and sometimes even murdered. These same ministers also offer to exorcise the devil from the children for large sums of money. In doing this they have created a remarkable industry and made themselves wealthy, while condemning many families to poverty.

Helen Ukpabio is one of these powerful evangelical preachers. She runs the Liberty Gospel Church. As well as preaching about witches and demon children, she has made a series of films that promote the view that children can be agents of Satan, and can kill and eat human flesh. In the wake of these movies the number of children being branded witches has increased dramatically. Few people will stand up to the evangelists.

This week Four Corners follows the work of Englishman Gary Foxcroft, who has devoted his life to helping these desperate and vulnerable children. Gary's charity, Stepping Stones Nigeria, raises funds to help Nigerians who have rescued children who have been accused of witchcraft.

We travel with Gary as he meets small children like Mary, who has been abandoned by her parents. The program tells how her mother has died, her father has left her and the villagers where she grew up now threaten to kill her because they believe she is a witch. Gary decides to take her to a special shelter to protect her.

Five years ago the Child Rights and Rehabilitation Network (CRARN) began by providing a home to four children branded witches; now it has over 150 in a makeshift shelter and school. The people there struggle to provide food and clothing for the children and the youngsters themselves live with the knowledge that their own parents have rejected them. The charity has few resources and struggles to survive.

Faced with this crisis Gary Foxcroft takes the children from the CRARN orphanage to the governor's residence to demand assistance and to ask that laws be made to punish anyone who harms children. The meeting provides a remarkable climax to a film that is both shocking and uplifting.

"Saving Africa's Witch Children" goes to air on Four Corners at 8.30pm on Monday 22nd June on ABC1 and is repeated at 11.35pm on Tuesday 23rd June.

Kenn
Jul 5, 2009, 09:18 PM
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Dear All,

This is a message on behalf of the Nigerian Child Organization:

http://groups.google.com/group/thenigerianchild?hl=en

http://www.thenigerianchild.org/


The Account Reconciliation Committee of the organization is presently sitting to review and certify the account following last December's fundraising for the Akwa Ibom Children's Christmas party. To this end, a Statement of Account has been issued and released to all members for verification:

http://groups.google.com/group/thenigerianchild/browse_thread/thread/8a8ad1d6243ddec8?hl=en

However, the Committee is aware that not only members of the Nigerian Child Organization were donors. This statement is therefore directed at donors who are non-members and whose name and donations may not have been acknowledged. If you fall into this category, please send a message detailing your name and amount paid to accountcommittee@thenigerianchild.org . It is important that we get this information, so that we can be clear that all monies collected are acknowledged and properly accounted for.



Yours sincerely,

Kennedy Emetulu

(For and on behalf of the NCO Account Reconciliation Committee)


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Kenn
Jul 6, 2009, 08:28 AM
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Dear All,

This is a message on behalf of the Nigerian Child Organization:

http://groups.google.com/group/thenigerianchild?hl=en

http://www.thenigerianchild.org/


The Account Reconciliation Committee of the organization is presently sitting to review and certify the account following last December's fundraising for the Akwa Ibom Children's Christmas party. To this end, a Statement of Account has been issued and released to all members for verification:

http://groups.google.com/group/thenigerianchild/browse_thread/thread/8a8ad1d6243ddec8?hl=en

However, the Committee is aware that not only members of the Nigerian Child Organization were donors. This statement is therefore directed at donors who are non-members and whose name and donations may not have been acknowledged. If you fall into this category, please send a message detailing your name and amount paid to accountcommittee@thenigerianchild.org . It is important that we get this information, so that we can be clear that all monies collected are acknowledged and properly accounted for.



Yours sincerely,

Kennedy Emetulu

(For and on behalf of the NCO Account Reconciliation Committee)


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Dear All,

There were some monies acknowledged but which were actually paid directly to the CRARN Account in Nigeria by the donors who are also our members. These were (1) N60,000 (sixty thousand naira) from the Richard Damazio Samuel Foundation and N26,800 (twenty six thousand, eight hundred naira) from NAR and his wife. It's been acknowledged on the Nigerian Child Google Group listserv by WaleAkin and Sam, but these monies are not part of this Statement of Account as they were not paid through the Nigerian Child Organization (NCO).


CHEERS!


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Austin
Jul 6, 2009, 09:05 PM
Finally, the documentary has (just) been aired on a nation-wide Danish television channel, DR 1, today 6 July 2009 between 22:00 and 23:00hrs.

Now, we have to get prepared to do my own explanation/condemnation and probably fund raising etc - now when we thought the case has somewhat died down and we have "escaped" :D.

Tynn2
Aug 8, 2009, 08:45 PM
Nigeria is a signatory UN CONVENTION FOR THE RIGHT OF THE CHILD.(CRC)
The United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child, often referred to as CRC or UNCRC, is an international convention setting out the civil, political, economic, social and cultural rights of children. Nations that ratify this international convention are bound to it by international law. Compliance is monitored by the United Nations Committee on the Rights of the Child which is composed of members from countries around the world.

There is an obligation for all States parties to move quickly to prohibit and eliminate all corporal punishment and all other cruel or degrading forms of punishment of children". Article 19 of the Convention states that State Parties must "take all appropriate legislative, administrative, social and educational measures to protect the child from all forms of physical or mental violence.

I think Nigeria Justice system should be clasify as corrupt, if nothing is done to those Lunatics that are killing innocent children in Akwa Ibom. By the way what are all the first Ladies in the country doing?

VOR
Nov 19, 2009, 10:28 PM
This will be shown on UK Channel 4 on Monday 23rd November 2009 at 8pm.

Nearly a year since the last programme the children are still not safe.


Return to Africa's Witch Children


How You Can Help (http://www.channel4.com/programmes/dispatches/articles/saving-africas-witch-children-help-and-support)
Mary's Story (http://www.channel4.com/programmes/dispatches/articles/return-to-africas-witch-children-marys-story)
Gary Foxcroft article (http://www.channel4.com/programmes/dispatches/articles/return-to-africas-witch-children-stepping-stones)
Saving Africa's Witch Children (http://www.channel4.com/programmes/dispatches/episode-guide/series-8/episode-1)
Awards (http://www.channel4.com/programmes/dispatches/articles/international-emmy-for-dispatches-film)

http://www.channel4.com/assets/programmes/images/dispatches/series-43/episode-1/e51be50d-ded4-48f7-853d-66aac7ba9203_200x113.jpg In 2008 a Bafta and Emmy Award-winning Dispatches told the story of how children in Africa's Niger Delta were being denounced by Christian pastors as witches and wizards and then killed, tortured or abandoned by their own families.
The film, which prompted international outrage against a practice conducted in the name of Jesus, forced the Nigerian authorities and the UN to act.
Child rights legislation came into force making it illegal to brand children as witches and some pastors were arrested. Financial support also poured in to assist a small British charity (Stepping Stones Nigeria) providing the only safe refuge for hundreds of youngsters attacked after claims that they were possessed by the Devil.
In Return to Africa's Witch Children, Dispatches reveals what happened to some of the children and church leaders who originally featured, and discovers that even now children as young as two are still being stigmatised as witches and treated as outcasts.
Gary Foxcroft of Lancaster-based charity Stepping Stones also returns to Nigeria and discovers that since his last visit the rescue centre that houses many of these children was the target of an attack. He also learns that the number of children living there has in fact risen.
Two-and-a-half-year-old Ellin is one such child. She was found at the side of the road, her body having been severely burnt with boiling water. Nwanakwo Udo Edet, around eight years old, wasn't so fortunate. He had acid poured over him after being labelled a wizard and later died.

Obugi
Nov 19, 2009, 11:12 PM
One year later, children are still being abused.....and I'm not surprised at all.

The belief in witches is firmly rooted in Christian religion among Nigerians. Click the links below for evidence.

Lizmoses, NVS member and Born Again Christian, Believes in Existence of Child Witches (http://nigeriavillagesquare.com/forum/main-square/26735-horror-akwa-ibom-14.html#post294229)

Oluwato, NVS Member and Born Again Christian, Believes in Existence of Witches (http://nigeriavillagesquare.com/forum/main-square/38733-father-poisons-2-yr-old-son-over-prophecy.html#post407448)

This one is kinda funny, in that she wrote:


written by Oluwato ---- "Witchcraft is a temporary mental hold, but it is still a hold nonetheless "

When our highly educated Nigerians still harbor these beliefs, what else do you expect? :lol::lol::lol:

!Get Yours!
Obugi.

emj
Jun 11, 2010, 01:19 AM
http://www.nigeriavillagesquare.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=10963&catid=201&Itemid=46 :source

http://www.focusnigeria.com/akwa-ibom-child-witches.htm :source

http://article.wn.com/view/2010/05/28/Remembering_The_Nigerian_Child/ :source

Are the children save now? Methink not:arrow:

Obugi
Apr 24, 2011, 02:06 AM
People,

Just in case we've forgotten, let's be reminded on this Easter weekend that Christians are STILL killing "witch children" in Nigeria.

Just a reminder.

Obugi.

Mikky jaga
Apr 25, 2011, 03:59 PM
People,

Just in case we've forgotten, let's be reminded on this Easter weekend that Christians are STILL killing "witch children" in Nigeria.

Just a reminder.

Obugi.

Never mind, the Governor of Akwa Ibom State is taking active step to stop both the propaganda and the act. Nothing to worry about, really.