Boko Haram Is "Absolutely Unreconciliable," US Secretary Clinton Tells FG

BOKO HARAM IS "ABSOLUTELY UNRECONCILIABLE," US SECRETARY CLINTON TELLS FG

*Obama told Jonathan Palestinians will not get bid for Statehood through the UN
*Union Bank gets $250m from US for revitalization
LAOLU AKANDE, WASHINGTON DC
Sept 30-In very strong terms the US government is speaking out against Nigeria's government's efforts at negotiating with Boko Haram, insisting that it might be impossible for the federal government to convince Boko Haram to end their violence, which the Americans consider as "absolutely unjustifiable," because many of such terror groups are "absolutely unreconcilable," according to US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.

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Speaking in Washington DC Thursday afternoon after her first official meeting with Foreign Minister Gbenga Ashiru, accompanied by Nigeria's Ambassador to the US, Prof. Ade Adefuye, at the State Department, Mrs Clinton reiterated America's dissatisfaction and condemnation of Boko Haram's use of force saying,"we think that its attacks on ordinary citizens, on institutions of the Nigerian state, on the United Nations office in Abuja, are absolutely unjustifiable."
According to her, terror groups like Boko Haram "cannot be convinced to end their violence and participate in society," stressing that there is no set or principles or beliefs that can justify taking the lives of innocent people.
Condoling with families whose loved ones have died in the many of the Boko Haram's "senseless attacks," the US Secretary of State observed that the American government is "working with Nigeria to try to develop capabilities to provide better security, to strengthen the security sector, because we think that some terrorist and extremist groups are absolutely unreconciliable.They cannot be convinced to end their violence and participate in society."
However she said if an opportunity exists for any dialogue or outreach, the US would support such as it has done elsewhere around the world. But Clinton added that such a dialogue nonetheless will have to go hand in hand with better security against such groups, saying "we also know that it has to be both at the same time."
"There has to be a strong, effective security response and an effort to try to remove the reasons why people would, in any way, condone or support this kind of terrorism," the former US first lady explained.

Hillary Clinton then reassured that the US will "stand with Nigeria as it faces serious security issues. The bombing of the UN headquarters in Abuja last month was a horrific and cowardly act, and we want to work with Nigeria and West Africa to improve security and to make sure that we also address the legitimate needs of people before extremists have a chance to exploit them."

In his own comment on the issue while addressing the press, Nigeria's Foreign Affairs Minister Ashiru restated that the US has offered to support and assist Nigeria "to combat this issue of terrorism."

According to Ashiru who had delivered a lecture earlier on Thursday at the United State Peace Institute at the US capital "no one country can handle this issue on its own, so it has to be multilateral and multifaceted. And from all our meetings, we've received assurances of support to help Nigeria in this new wave, which of course, as you rightly know, is much new to us in Nigeria. But we believe that our government is on top of the situation and they will continue to develop expertise and capability to manage and curtail this new menace that we have."

The US Secretary of State also disclosed that both the US President Barack Obama and herself had exchanged ideas with Nigeria's President Goodluck Jonathan on the issue of Palestinian membership application at the United Nations.

Said she "I had the opportunity to talk to President Jonathan, as did President Obama, last week at the United Nations General Assembly. We believe strongly, and we have certainly communicated that to the president and the foreign minister, that the only route to a Palestinian state, which we want to see happen, is through negotiations. We know that whatever does or doesn't happen in the United Nations will not create a state, and our goal is to see two states living side by side in peace and security."

Clinton observed that being friends to both the Israelis and Palestinians, the Nigerian government "will tell both of them, get back to the negotiating table, because that's where the differences must be resolved. It is the only place where we can get a durable and lasting peace, but we have certainly made it clear to all of our friends that we want to see a return to negotiations. Anything which is done that disrupts that or detours that is a postponement of the outcome that we are all seeking."

At the Clinton-Ashiru meeting on Thursday afternoon, the US government also announced the approval of $150m in financing for the Union Bank. The US Secretary of State disclosed that the money is "to help revitalize the Union Bank of Nigeria, and to reach previously un-banked people in Nigeria. And we will look for ways to support Nigeria as it reduces inequality and builds a broader base for prosperity."

She said economic development is key and the US wants to see Nigeria prosper and grow. According to her Nigeria is one of the fastest-growing economies in the world, with the largest population in Africa and strong trading relationships.

"We want to see Nigeria prosper and grow. To this end, the United States Overseas Private Investment Corporation, OPIC, has just approved $250 million in financing, the US Secretary of State disclosed.



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Re: Boko Haram Is "Absolutely Unreconciliable," US Secretary Clinton Tells FG
Patcho posted on 10-02-2011, 12:52:41 PM


BOKO HARAM IS "ABSOLUTELY UNRECONCILIABLE," US SECRETARY CLINTON TELLS FG




*Obama told Jonathan Palestinians will not get bid for Statehood through the UN


*Union Bank gets $250m from US for revitalization



LAOLU AKANDE, WASHINGTON DC



Sept 30-In very strong terms the US government is speaking out against Nigeria's government's efforts at negotiating with Boko Haram, insisting that it might be impossible for the federal government to convince Boko Haram to end their violence, which the Americans consider as "absolutely unjustifiable," because many of such terror groups are "absolutely unreconcilable," according to US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.










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Speaking in Washington DC Thursday afternoon after her first official meeting with Foreign Minister Gbenga Ashiru, accompanied by Nigeria's Ambassador to the US, Prof. Ade Adefuye, at the State Department, Mrs Clinton reiterated America's dissatisfaction and condemnation of Boko Haram's use of force saying,"we think that its attacks on ordinary citizens, on institutions of the Nigerian state, on the United Nations office in Abuja, are absolutely unjustifiable."



According to her, terror groups like Boko Haram "cannot be convinced to end their violence and participate in society," stressing that there is no set or principles or beliefs that can justify taking the lives of innocent people.



Condoling with families whose loved ones have died in the many of the Boko Haram's "senseless attacks," the US Secretary of State observed that the American government is "working with Nigeria to try to develop capabilities to provide better security, to strengthen the security sector, because we think that some terrorist and extremist groups are absolutely unreconciliable.They cannot be convinced to end their violence and participate in society."



However she said if an opportunity exists for any dialogue or outreach, the US would support such as it has done elsewhere around the world. But Clinton added that such a dialogue nonetheless will have to go hand in hand with better security against such groups, saying "we also know that it has to be both at the same time."



"There has to be a strong, effective security response and an effort to try to remove the reasons why people would, in any way, condone or support this kind of terrorism," the former US first lady explained.

Hillary Clinton then reassured that the US will "stand with Nigeria as it faces serious security issues. The bombing of the UN headquarters in Abuja last month was a horrific and cowardly act, and we want to work with Nigeria and West Africa to improve security and to make sure that we also address the legitimate needs of people before extremists have a chance to exploit them."



In his own comment on the issue while addressing the press, Nigeria's Foreign Affairs Minister Ashiru restated that the US has offered to support and assist Nigeria "to combat this issue of terrorism."


According to Ashiru who had delivered a lecture earlier on Thursday at the United State Peace Institute at the US capital "no one country can handle this issue on its own, so it has to be multilateral and multifaceted. And from all our meetings, we've received assurances of support to help Nigeria in this new wave, which of course, as you rightly know, is much new to us in Nigeria. But we believe that our government is on top of the situation and they will continue to develop expertise and capability to manage and curtail this new menace that we have."


The US Secretary of State also disclosed that both the US President Barack Obama and herself had exchanged ideas with Nigeria's President Goodluck Jonathan on the issue of Palestinian membership application at the United Nations.


Said she "I had the opportunity to talk to President Jonathan, as did President Obama, last week at the United Nations General Assembly. We believe strongly, and we have certainly communicated that to the president and the foreign minister, that the only route to a Palestinian state, which we want to see happen, is through negotiations. We know that whatever does or doesn't happen in the United Nations will not create a state, and our goal is to see two states living side by side in peace and security."


Clinton observed that being friends to both the Israelis and Palestinians, the Nigerian government "will tell both of them, get back to the negotiating table, because that's where the differences must be resolved. It is the only place where we can get a durable and lasting peace, but we have certainly made it clear to all of our friends that we want to see a return to negotiations. Anything which is done that disrupts that or detours that is a postponement of the outcome that we are all seeking."


At the Clinton-Ashiru meeting on Thursday afternoon, the US government also announced the approval of $150m in financing for the Union Bank. The US Secretary of State disclosed that the money is "to help revitalize the Union Bank of Nigeria, and to reach previously un-banked people in Nigeria. And we will look for ways to support Nigeria as it reduces inequality and builds a broader base for prosperity."


She said economic development is key and the US wants to see Nigeria prosper and grow. According to her Nigeria is one of the fastest-growing economies in the world, with the largest population in Africa and strong trading relationships.


"We want to see Nigeria prosper and grow. To this end, the United States Overseas Private Investment Corporation, OPIC, has just approved $250 million in financing, the US Secretary of State disclosed.




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Re: Boko Haram Is "Absolutely Unreconciliable," US Secretary Clinton Tells FG
DeepThought posted on 10-02-2011, 20:38:50 PM
Yes ma!....Yes ma.....Sorry ma!!!

Don't be annoyed ma
Re: Boko Haram Is "Absolutely Unreconciliable," US Secretary Clinton Tells FG
Basuwe posted on 10-03-2011, 02:53:05 AM
And the order was given! No negotiation with boko haram and dont u dare support palestinian quest for statehood.
Re: Boko Haram Is "Absolutely Unreconciliable," US Secretary Clinton Tells FG
Eire posted on 10-03-2011, 05:00:30 AM
The US are speaking tot he wrong person, Jonathan is too weak to do anything about Boko Haram, his policy is pretend it is not happening.
Re: Boko Haram Is "Absolutely Unreconciliable," US Secretary Clinton Tells FG
Olamide posted on 10-03-2011, 14:05:01 PM
Americans are hypocrites. They will advise him not to negotiate with Boko Haram because it suits their plans in Nigeria for now, next year they will tell him to commence negotiations with Boko Haram. The Americans are presently negotiating with the Taliban in Afghanistan and looking for a way out of the problems they created there and in Iraq after the death of Saddam.
Was it my eyes or did I see Jonathan almost ready to prostrate to Hillary Clinton while being addressed or 'instructed'?
Re: Boko Haram Is "Absolutely Unreconciliable," US Secretary Clinton Tells FG
Denker posted on 10-03-2011, 14:27:53 PM
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Americans are hypocrites. They will advise him not to negotiate with Boko Haram because it suits their plans in Nigeria for now, next year they will tell him to commence negotiations with Boko Haram. The Americans are presently negotiating with the Taliban in Afghanistan and looking for a way out of the problems they created there and in Iraq after the death of Saddam.
Was it my eyes or did I see Jonathan almost ready to prostrate to Hillary Clinton while being addressed or 'instructed'?


mallam olamide, abi ya have seen usa dey negotiate with terrorists for home front....neva...
Re: Our conditions for peace, by Boko Haram - 100 per cent implementation of Sharia law in the country
Denker posted on 10-04-2011, 02:52:06 AM
Our conditions for peace, by Boko Haram - 100 per cent implementation of Sharia law in the country Monday, October 3, 2011


Â…celebrate low-key 51st Independence

BY KINGSLEY OMONOBI & NDAHI MARAMA



ABUJA- Members of the Jaamatus Ahlus Sunnah Lid Daawatis Wal Jihad, a.k.a. Boko Haram yesterday celebrated the inability of the Federal Government to celebrate the nation's 51st independence anniversary at the Eagle Square owing to threats by the group and the Movement for the Emancipation of the Niger Delta (MEND), to bomb the nation's capital city if the celebration went ahead.



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Members of the sect have also restated their determination to continue to unleash terror on government and its security forces, should the federal government refuse to meet their earlier demands.

It will be recalled that after the federal government announced that the celebration will be low keyed and denied insinuations that the low key celebration was due to fear of MEND or Boko Haram, there was a military and Police parade inside the Presidential Villa, with foreign ambassadors, High Commissioners' and Chief de missions present at the villa to celebrate Nigeria's 51st Independence anniversary.

Vanguard was told by security sources, that they have intelligence reports indicating that members of the Boko Haram sect celebrated their ability to restrict the independence anniversary to Aso Rock rather than the national ground, Eagle Square, where such occasions are usually held.



Incidentally, security measures put in place following the threats of the two groups are still in place and will remain for days as security agencies feel, both groups especially Boko Haram were put at bay because of the heavy security presence and checks going on in the FCT.

According to the source, \\"we have not rested since last Thursday and there is no indication that we would rest soon because we may be deceived that they have had a change of mind to attack. So the security cordons will go on until we are satisfied the risk threats have reduced\\".



Meanwhile, spokesman of the group, Abu Qaqa in an email message sent to newsmen written in Hausa language yesterday said that
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\\\\\"the country would not have peace until there is 100 per cent implementation of Sharia law in the country as enshrined in the holy Quran as well as immediate release of all our members who were detained and in the custody of security agencies for no just cause\\\\\".



He said the group was not satisfied with the report of the Presidential committee on Security in the north on possible negotiation with the federal government, adding that the members were even surprised that the committee told the world, that they have had a meeting with the sect in the course of their investigation, insisting that no committee ever sat with the group.



He dismissed the recommendation of the committee on the involvement of the Sultan of Sokoto, Emir of Bauchi or Abubakar Giro in the negotiation talk saying, \\"all these people are not respected by the sect members, and could not mediate for them\\".


Meanwhile, unidentified gunmen yesterday shot and killed an Igbo butcher in broad daylight at the popular Baga Road Market. There was also a reported incident of an explosion at the same Baga Road which claimed two lives while some were seriously injured. Following these incidents, most shops in the market remained closed.

http://odili.net/news/source/2011/oct/3/323.html
Re: Boko Haram Is "Absolutely Unreconciliable," US Secretary Clinton Tells FG
Eire posted on 10-04-2011, 04:03:51 AM
Arms inflow from Northern borders intensifies *The Gaddafi mercenaries connection *Boko Haram members relocate to Kano, others.


Written by Olawale Rasheed, Abuja
Monday, October 3, 2011



AS security services struggle to combat budding terrorism, a fresh alarm has been raised about the inflow of sophisticated arms of various types into northern Nigerian cities from the vast northern borders of the country with Niger and Chad.

Nigerian Tribune was told that arms and ammunition taken by loyalists of ousted Libyan president, Moammar Gaddafi, from Libya to the Agadez region of Niger Republic are finding their way into northern Nigeria, even as fresh reports indicated that hard core Boko Haram members are now hibernating in northwestern cities after escaping counter-terrorism onslaughts from the northeastern part of the country.


Previous reports had shown that Nigerians who served as mercenaries in the Libyan army were flocking into the country through the country's northern borders, even as speculations are rife about the involvement of the former Libyan strongman who had earlier advocated a division of Nigeria into three, in the Islamic insurgency led by Boko Haram sect.


A retired senior security officer told the Nigerian Tribune that the nation had about 480 irregular border crossings in its 4,500-kilometre borders with Niger and Chad Republics while the official border manned by Nigerian officials are 12.


"These illegal crossings are witnessing inflow of arms and nobody is checking, nobody is trying to control this dangerous phenomenon. The arms are highly sophisticated going by the advanced nature of Gaddafi armoury," the source said.


Affirming that the nation's northern borders have not been demarcated nor properly policed 51 years after independence, the ex-security officer noted that "on a daily basis since the defeat of Gaddafi, northern borders are witnessing strange movements, not just of men, but of arms and this is beyond the control of police, immigration and customs service.


"Have you ever heard of any arms seizure in the northern zones? Go to Ngala, go to all those remote areas in the North, go to areas south of Gimbiya, Ilela and others, you will see ungoverned territories with criminal gangs dealing in arms and ammunition," the source said.


Nigerian Tribune further investigations revealed that the promised military patrol of the northern borders to stop the influx of arms and mercenaries has not taken off, even as the existing military patrol in the Chad Basin is alleged to have become compromised and incapable of controlling the growing mercenary and criminal activities in the Chad Basin.


Citing a report by our sister paper about extremists and northern porous borders, the source explained that "since that report three weeks ago, no high-level visitation and action have been taken," adding "the new trend is Gaddafi's ammunition flowing into the country."


Meanwhile, Islamic insurgents may be feeling the heat in the northeastern part of the country, as fresh reports indicated that the north-western cities of Kano, Sokoto, Gusau, Kaduna and Katsina are now witnessing the inflow of internally displaced persons from northeastern states.


"These so-called internally displaced persons may include many members of the Boko Haram, who may be fleeing the counter offensive of the securitymen in the North-East. That is why there is a renewed interest of security agencies in these 'refugees,' a security source told our correspondent.


Contrary to earlier reports that the Boko Haram members fled to the South after operations in the North-East, members of the sect are reportedly finding solace in the North-West, a situation said to have heightened security screening and checks, especially in Kano.


"The North-East is now very hot for the sect. The Kano command of the intelligence service has done a good job of containing the extremists based on immediate actions on actionable intelligence on movements of these sect members from the crisis zone to the North-West," a very dependable security source told the Nigerian Tribune.

http://odili.net/news/source/2011/oct/3/620.html
Re: Boko Haram Is "Absolutely Unreconciliable," US Secretary Clinton Tells FG
Enyi posted on 10-07-2011, 17:06:57 PM
This makes an interesting reading. First, Mr. Campbell advises us to lay down our arms and negotiate. Now, Mrs. Clinton tells us to continue with arms and negotiate when the need arises. The latter makes more sense. As I have stated on previous occasions, I do not believe that FGN should negotiate withy BH at this time. Their position is very clear- they want full implementation of Sharia, at least in the Northern states. How can this be negotiable? Yerima and the Sultan of Sokoto have been quoted to have placed the Sharia above the Constitution. Obviously, I believe that there may be other leaders of thought in the North who hold this view. Therefore, BH may be expressing the opinion of some segments of the North. The hooker in this, is that nobody mentions the fate of the indigenous, non-Muslims in the North.
The answer to BH remains having a loose federation. In practice the Northern governors that introduced full Sharia had indirectly opted for a loose federation. Why are we still deceiving ourselves, running a veiled unitary government. Now is the time to restructure Nigeria nad let Yerima and his cohorts live with the Frankenstein they have created. As we say in local parlance-wahala de silip, inyanga go wek am.
Re: Boko Haram Is "Absolutely Unreconciliable," US Secretary Clinton Tells FG
Cokonkwo posted on 10-09-2011, 10:24:28 AM
Negotiating With Boko Haram Will Be Counter-Productive

In a law abiding society any one who breaks the law should be sanctioned accordingly. Anyone who has grievances should go to their representatives/leaders (elected, spiritual etc) or the courts of law and make their concerns known. If, for example, it is true that many northerners want full sharia etc, they can get this through their state and federal executives and legislators. There is no need to blow up people. If the Boko haram people
have enough money to travel around to learn deadly acts and buy cars for blowing up surely they would have enough money to organize other northerners to seek the enforcement of Sharia. Again if its true that many northerners share this view then organizing them would not be difficult. After all, many northern states are implementing sharia. How many people were blown up before this was achieved? President Jonathan please hunt down these terrorists so that people thinking of similar acts will forget the idea.

In airing grievances, people can also form pressure groups. There are many peaceful avenues for airing grievances. This is why anyone who goes too far in doing so should not be let to go free. This is the reason the world did not negotiate with Al-queda. There is nothing to negotiate or discuss with Boko haram. Instead the traditional rulers, local, state and federal governments should address the unemployment level in the country as well as other problems that create social tension. These problems are well known but poor leadership, poor followership and the corruption and indiscipline they work through have not allowed us address them. Many people in Nigeria would want to see more progress. How many of them have become suicide bombers? Even the Niger-Delta people focused on disrupting oil production - not blowing up people. Any discussion with suicide bombers is an invitation to further such acts as ways of getting attention.

The security agencies should learn from the US and co on how to deal with this type of problem. The response of the government should focus on reorienting the people in the strategic areas, reducing unemployment, improving the efficiency of the security agencies and judicial system and reducing poverty in general. One idea may be that of community policing where everyone is his brother's keeper and people report suspicious activity. If anyone is to be discussed with, it should be the people of the areas where Boko haram seems to have strong presence. Any one who identifies himself as a member of Boko Haram should be treated as a criminal and interrogated and not negotiated/discussed with.
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