Guess Who Is Coming To Dinner

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StandPoint

Guess who is Coming to Dinner


September 06, 2010

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China is in Nigeria's business. Literally. The Chinese are on the streets of Nigeria offering to fry akara and build roads for the masses. Why not? Boundaries are blurring, the globe is in the grip of a Chinese invasion and Nigeria seems to be happy to luxuriate in the new warmth from the East. Nigeria seems enthralled by the opportunities the partnership with China presents.

The growth of trade between China and Nigeria has been phenomenal – over $7 million in 2008 alone. China is investing in Nigeria's infrastructure and her abundant, if abused natural resources like crude oil and gas. Who knows, China may finally deprive comedians from mining jokes out of Nigeria's beleaguered state-owned electricity company. In addition, China is granting Nigeria access to hundreds of millions of dollars in soft loans to jump-start its railway system and assist with development.

Western nations have been viewing this relationship with concern and skepticism. They have reason to be concerned, but they have no moral authority to complain about the lack of altruism in China's entreaties to Africa. The hypocrisy is galling. Western nations have been overwhelmingly predatory in Africa, reducing her people and economy to ruins with practices that would be criminal in their own lands. With the aid of thieving political and intellectual elite, policies and structures were put in place to ensure that Africans remained bonded to the West. Entire populations and civilizations have been decimated to serve the West's need for human and natural resources. Ask the people of the Niger Delta.

While we remain cautiously optimistic that Nigeria's partnership with China presents an opportunity for Nigeria and Africa to invest in a true partnership, there is concern that this is an enthusiastic, perhaps uncritical relationship that tips the power balance to China's advantage. The first concern stems from a lack of faith in our government. Greed and ineptitude have robbed our leaders of the foresight and will to craft robust agreements with any nation. The second concern is that the Chinese may overwhelm us with the ubiquity of products and services that may have quality control issues. Third, there are complaints that the Chinese are developing a reputation for not delivering on their promises. Finally, Chinese infrastructure agreements stipulate that 70 per cent of the labor must be Chinese and thousands of Chinese retail shops have sprung up across Africa with this condition in place. This is unacceptable. A lopsided business partnership forged between inept rulers and a self-serving China will prove to be very costly indeed for Nigeria, and exacerbate pre-existing conditions like acute and chronic poverty, anemic production capacity, unfair balance of trade and crippled sovereignty.

These concerns have to be addressed. The Nigeria-China relationship has the capacity to be mutually beneficial only if Nigerian rulers live up to their responsibilities and demand the following:

  1. Good fiscal, technological, and resource concessions from China
  2. Observance of at least minimum environmental standards acceptable to international environmental consensus.
  3. Labor concessions in which the bulk of the workforce of these massive infrastructure projects is Nigerian and there is a conscious, monitored and evaluated effort on the part of the Chinese to train African technical staff to maintain these projects.
  4. Honest, purposeful, measurable technology transfer.

On balance, excessive and unreasonable terms imposed by Western donors make Chinese aid especially attractive. We welcome the increased competition and say to our leaders, go into these ventures with all eyes open. In the interest of our long-suffering nation.

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The StandPoint is the consensual position of the NVS editorial board.



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Re: Guess who is Coming to Dinner
Eace posted on 09-06-2010, 05:37:21 AM
The hosts are too busy worrying about whether the guests will be so impressed with the table setting that they won't notice the rice is over cooked.

If only they know that the dinner guests have no intention of eating the host's rice; they've brought their own rice with them.
Re: Guess who is Coming to Dinner
Nezie posted on 09-06-2010, 05:42:40 AM
Chinese, - I wanted to say - some history books tell us, were the first foreigners to set foot on the African continent, (before the Europeans) but did not take slaves.

While our old Western trade partners are fast driving themselves to the edge through over-priced labour and goods, Chinese are fast digging in all over the world with cheap products and services, and above all,..... humility.

You would wish our rulers can set up a good quality control mechanism to deal with our trade with China.
Re: Guess who is Coming to Dinner
TEchi posted on 09-06-2010, 07:30:53 AM
One thing we all know is that when a man takes bribe it clouds his judgment to reason effectively. The Chinese deals with some of our corrupt officials or should I say many, is to keep them reasonable inept from negotiating favorably for Nigeria. We also know that no man in his right mind will make an investment that will not be to his advantage.

The Chinese are investing in Nigeria for a major return which might be tenfold to twenty their original investment and their profit will be reinvested in China. I do hope we all wrong in many of our assumptions while our infrastructure remains dilapidated.
Re: Guess who is Coming to Dinner
Patcho posted on 09-06-2010, 07:52:14 AM
Were we a nation that could be called a country, all Nigeria should have done is to ask itself what China did to open under Late President Deng Xiaoping. They neither handed their resources nor did they sell their people koboless under a so called trade and investment. What China did was to galvanize internal enrgy that took off from Guangdong Province on experimental level and spread even to hinterlands.

There are many examples like todays Venezuela and Japan. China knows that the environment is unsafe in terms of stability. They know that our leaders knows how unsafe Nigeria is and therefore, for the moment, its cut and run.

But Alas! all is well that ends well; that leads to the decapitation of Nigeria.

Patrick Nwadike
Tokyo Japan.
Re: Guess who is Coming to Dinner
Denker posted on 09-06-2010, 08:10:53 AM
QUOTE:
Were we a nation that could be called a country, all Nigeria should have done is to ask itself what China did to open under Late President Deng Xiaoping. They neither handed their resources nor did they sell their people koboless under a so called trade and investment. What China did was to galvanize internal enrgy that took off from Guangdong Province on experimental level and spread even to hinterlands.

There are many examples like todays Venezuela and Japan. China knows that the environment is unsafe in terms of stability. They know that our leaders knows how unsafe Nigeria is and therefore, for the moment, its cut and run.

But Alas! all is well that ends well; that leads to the decapitation of Nigeria.


Patrick Nwadike
Tokyo Japan.


true/real change/development can only take place alone from within....!-denker


Re: Guess who is Coming to Dinner
Bode Eluyera posted on 09-06-2010, 09:02:03 AM
NIGERIA IS DOOMED!!!

At last, your team have come up with a really serious problem that will eventually kill Nigeria's economy - in actual fact, Nigeria never had any economy. Most likely, if I am not mistaken this piece was written by the only lady in your team.

In any case, I am glad that my series "Sovereignty, Economic Security, Obama's visit, Jonathan, 2011 Elections and Development of Nigeria: Correlation" have spurned you guys to take up this issue in your editorials. This is one of the questions I expected you to ask Buhari during the interview. Anyway, better late than never. I hope that this issue of crucial importance will now feature regularly not only in your editorials but in interviews with these opportunists that we have as leaders. We need to bring it to their awareness and make them understand that in the short and long un, the present loopsided economic relationships that we have with China and other foreign countries will eventually kill our economy and enslave Nigerians.

Most importantly, we need to make them understand that Nigerians need to be challenged and are more than capable of carrying out at least 80% of the projects that we give out to foreigners even better and much cheaper if the necessary conducive enviroment is provided. And this is the only way we can earn the respect of other African countries and the world - by doing things by ourselves.


Honestly, without any exaggeration, Nigeria as a country is DOOMED simply because we are being ruled by corrupt, corrupt, visionless and morally bankrupt opportunists. A country without any trade policy, investment policy and development strategy will eventually perish.

In his interview, Buhari naively believed that the collapse of the textile industry in the North was due to the absence of electricity. In actual fact, it was due to the uncontrolled influx of very cheap and better Chinese textiles that enter into Nigeria's market without the Chinese paying any customs tax/duties. So, spending billions of dollars on electricity alone will not resolve this problem. The only way to resolve this problem is through a sound and well implimented trade policy which must be worked out by Nigerian experts and not by Northerners - products of quota system.

This is one of the reasons why I think that Babatunde Fashola too is NOT AN IDEAL CANDIDATE to become Nigeria's president. Lagos and Nigeria in particular have become a 'dumping ground' for all sorts of goods. Most of the (construction) contracts in Lagos (and in Nigeria as a whole)are been carried out by the Chinese and other foreigners - everything from brooms to locomotives and the workers are being imported into Nigeria. And these Yeye leaders talk all the time about 2020 project, local contents and all sorts of jargons when in actual fact fact they have no clues about what they are talking about and foreigners continue to have a field day in Nigeria: dominate and control our economy.

While we continue praising Fashola, the Chinese and other foreigners are taking over all the assets in Lagos and Nigeria and cutting loopsided deals with us. In the next 5, maximum 10 years Nigerians will become slaves to Chinese, Indians and other foreigners. It's very easy to enter Nigeria, live and work or do any thing you want there as long as you want without anybody querrying you.

This is the policy of Fashola and Jonathan - Give/outsource ALL CONTRACTS/EVERYTHING TO FOREIGNERS AND FOREIGN COMPANIES. THEY DON'T BELIEVE IN NIGERIA - INCLUDING NIGERIANS IN DIASPORA TO DESIGN A RAIL NETWORK SYSTEM, MANAGE THE COUNTRY'S ELECTRICITY, BUILD ROADS AND BRIDGES, WRITE A ENERGY BLUE PRINT FOR THE COUNTRY, DRILL OIL, MAKE SHOES, E.T.C. THEY WOULD RATHER OUTSOURCE THEM TO THE CHINESE, INDIANS, LEBANESE, MALASIANS, BRITISH, AMERICANS AND OTHERS. TO THEM, IT'S LESS RISKY AND MUCH SAFER THAT WAY. THEY DON'T WANT TO TAKE RISKS WITH NIGERIANS AND GIVE THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO LEARN. THESE OPPORTUNISTS HAVE NO CLUES WHATSOEVER WHAT 'ECONOMIC SOVEREIGNTY AND SECURITY' ARE ALL ABOUT. THEY CAN NOT THINK STRATEGICALLY.

I wrote about this problem in one of my articles titled "Roger Dawson: American negotiations expert is a fake." This article is available at nigeriansinamerica.com under a different title "Empowering Nigerian professionals to turn around the economy."

Details of my assessment of Fashola's govt. will be captured in my series "FREEDOM COALITION: $250M FUND TO ELECT MAJ. ABUBAKAR UMAR (RTD.)/RIBADU AND AKUNYILI IN 2011 AND GET RID OF BABANGIDA, JONATHAN AND THE CABAL FOR GOOD! YES WE CAN!" available on nigeriansinamerica.com

Unlike Nigeria, the Chinese know what they want and they have a strategy for achieving them. So far things are going perfectly well according to their plans. The present trade relationship between Nigeria and Chine can be depicted byb somedody giving a hungry and man a loaf of bread and taking over the rights to everything his land including all the mineral resources: gold, diamond, oil, uranium e.t.c. and all Agricultural products on it.

TO BE HONEST, THINGS ARE REALLY VERY VERY VERY BAD. NIGERIA IS A DOOMED COUNTRY!!!

THE LEAST WE CAN DO NOW IS TO VOTE IN RIBADU AND START REVISING ALL THESE POLICIES THAT NOT ONLY KILLS NIGERIAN ECONOMY AND UNCOMPETITIVE, BUT AS WELL MAKES US SLAVES TO COUNTRIES THAT WE ARE MUCH MORE ENDOWED THAN. null
Re: Guess Who Is Coming To Dinner
I Love Nigeria posted on 09-06-2010, 09:46:06 AM
China Bashing & Foreign Investments In Africa
http://www.nigeriavillagesquare.com/articles/paul-adujie/china-bashing-a-foreign-investments-in-africa.html


China As Friend And Partner To Africa
http://www.nigeriavillagesquare.com/articles/paul-adujie/china-as-friend-and-partner-to-africa-9.html



China, Emergent World Superpower!
http://adujie-writings.blogspot.com/2007/10/china-emergent-world-superpower.html
Re: Guess Who Is Coming To Dinner
Iamgod posted on 09-06-2010, 14:44:51 PM
I think all TRADE AGREEMENTS with Chinese, and indeed all foreign companies, should be made available for everyone to view what is contained therein.

We lack the technology and expertise to produce almost all 21st century High tech gadgets. There is no way within the next century that Nigeria would be able to develop such technology on her own. And Engineers always say there is no need to reinvent the wheel.

Therefore we NEED such partnership. (Btw, 80% of
"American goods" are produced in China).

The real question is: what clauses in the trade agreement are of long term benefits to Nigeria as a Nation?

What percentage of local workforce should be used?

What percentage of local workforce should be trained?

I see no reason why Foreign companies cannot be compelled to site their factories here in Nigeria. You want to sell in Nigeria? Then you make it in Nigeria. We are already one of the worlds largest consumers of finished goods of all sorts and foreign companies are definitely aware of this.

But of course, this scenario would demand the herculean effort of putting our house in order, and that ultimately is the crux of the matter. Is government ready to live up to its responsibilities?
Who Are Nigerians? Who Are Africans? Who Are We Really?
I Love Nigeria posted on 09-06-2010, 15:50:17 PM
Why is it that our interests are often defined by westerners?

Western nations are in do or die battles with China for resources in Africa... Western nations are scared to death about the fact that a few African nations are now exploring business and technical opportunities with China... and all of a sudden, Nigerians and other Africans are now referring to China with denigrating labels created by westerner nations.

Western nations have this sense of entitlement about Africa... it is the case that western nations have had a thousand years of absolute monopoly over African economies, politics, culture and religion etc and now, western nations feel insulted by the advent of China in African nations. China is a direct threat to western monopolies on the African continent...

Nigerians and other African are prejudging China, based on western definition of China's forays into some African nations... China is being judged in advance of mistakes!

Upon reading all the hysteria written about China, and all the phobias regarding China's presence in Africa... you will be forgiven if you thought that China runs Halliburton which is known to have given bribes to Nigerian public officials...

You will be forgiven if you thought that Siemens was a Chinese company.... Siemens which is also implicated in bribery and corruption scandals in Nigeria

You will as well be forgiven if you thought that Shell, BP, Exxon-Mobil, Elf, Agip Texaco, and all the other oil giants and oil conglomerates are all Chinese companies....

But the truth is these oil companies are from western nations, oil companies which have operated in Nigeria for over fifty years.... during which Niger Delta has been environmentally degraded, polluted and poisoned beyond redemption!

Where is the "best business practices" by western governments and western nations' multinationals?

Nigerians and Africans are ignorantly and naively sidetracked by self-interested western nations... as they present China as the enemy? Even in the face of what western nations and their multinationals have already done.... with negative consequences, impacts and outcome?

Why are some so afraid of China, even before we give China a Chance?

Are Nigerians/Africans aware of trillions of dollars investments by China in America? Are Nigerians/Africans aware of the fact that tea cup, toothpicks, handkerchiefs and computers in America are all made in China? Why are some of us so gullible? Why are some of us so will to swallow and regurgitate, like Pavlov Dog, the fears and phobias of western nations in connection with China?

China Bashing & Foreign Investments In Africa
http://www.nigeriavillagesquare.com/articles/paul-adujie/china-bashing-a-foreign-investments-in-africa.html


[/B]China As Friend And Partner To Africa[/B]
http://www.nigeriavillagesquare.com/articles/paul-adujie/china-as-friend-and-partner-to-africa-9.html



[/B]China, Emergent World Superpower![/B]
http://adujie-writings.blogspot.com/2007/10/china-emergent-world-superpower.html
Re: Who Are Nigerians? Who Are Africans? Who Are We Really?
Big-k posted on 09-06-2010, 18:30:18 PM
These Videos are worth watching and reflecting upon. These guys are wiping out our factories, but in the second vidoe there was talk of how a Nigerian out-chinesed the Chinese in the plastics industry





Also see
http://www.chinaafricarealstory.com/
http://beegeagle.wordpress.com/2010/09/05/china-nigeria-building-huge-free-trade-zone-in-lagos/
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