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2009

Black Women, White Men And The Question Of Marriage PDF Print E-mail
By Sabella O Abidde
06 July 2009

There are enclaves where interracial relationships are still frowned upon. But by and large, this phenomenon is on the upward trend: becoming common around the world -- especially in Europe, Canada, and the United States. A cursory look suggests that interaciality has a longer history of acceptance in Western Europe than in the United States. And when aggregated, interracial liaisons seem less common and less celebrated in societies that are considered conservative, dutifully religious, and politically closed.

 

Except perhaps in the early years of its existence as a Republic, one could hardly consider the United States a “conservative, dutifully religious, and politically closed” society. A few settlements may fit that description, but in the whole, America has mostly been a social laboratory in many respects. Race was something else, though. And not a few has attributed racial tension and unhealthy racial competition to the residual effect of slavery and to the manner in which the country was “discovered” and founded.

As commonplace as interracial relationships are becoming, the vast majority of such interactions seem to be between Black men -- African-American or Sub-Saharan Africans -- and White women. And indeed, there is also an upward swing in liaison between Black men and women of Asian and Latin America heritage. The evidence for these can be found in places such as Seattle, New York, DC-Tri-Cities, Los Angeles, Atlanta, Miami, Minneapolis-Saint Paul, Chicago, and in many college towns.

Many reasons have been proffered for why people date and/or marry outside of their race. Such studies and/or social commentaries generally look at “why black men date white women.” My own commentary, published in the spring 2006 edition of CYH Magazine -- “African Men: Why They Favor Non African Women” -- did exactly that. In the Fall of 2005, I wrote Nigerian Men and Their Foreign Wives, which has remained my most oft-quoted essay. What about African women: why don’t they date non-Blacks as often as their male counterparts date and marry outside of their race?

Put another way: why is marriage -- or any type of relationship between Black women and White men not as common? I have been associated with six university campuses in the United States. And even within these settings, the norms was/is Black male students with White female students. Rarely does one see a White male student dating or going gaga over a Black female student. One is left to think, or at least suspect, that the general populace prefers the former as opposed to the latter.

Without the benefit of systematic studies, and relying primarily on casual conversations with friends and friends of friends and online acquaintances, one was able to glean some specifics as to why large number Black women don’t date or won’t marry non-Black men. In all I spoke with 19 single Black women between the ages of 27 and 39. (Statistically the number of respondents is way too small to make any kind of scientific inference.) Nonetheless, other than wanting to know why “Black women don’t/won’t date/marry white men,” some of the questions I put forth included:

1) What do you think of White men

2) Would you date or ever date a White man

3) Would your friends and family accept such a relationship

4) Do you think his friends and family will accept/celebrate such a union, and

5) What do you think of Black women who date/marry White Men

I also went in search of Black women (African-American and sub-Saharan Africans) who have or currently dating, had intimate relationship with or married White men.

1) What’s the difference between dating a black man and a white man?

2) What did your friends and family say about it?

3) Have your friends/family, and your partner’s friends/family accepted the union?

4) What are the advantages/disadvantages of such a union; and

5) Do you have regrets?

Paraphrased, several respondents said, “to give myself to a White man would be like allowing my self to be enslaved again.” For Hanna and for Leah, they simply could not imagine a condition under which they would date or marry a White man. Or any non-Black for that matter. Both women seem to have mental barriers -- barriers that seem rooted in historical events, and as if to say “the white and black world must not mix;”

Olamide and June -- best friends for more than 12 years -- simply do not find the white skin attractive. Besides, they believe that the “white culture is simply too permissible.” Both specifically point to “their sexual practices…anal sex, ass-to-mouth, and the awful things they expect women to do with the male body fluid.” Reminded that there are some westernized African men in the Diaspora who also engage in such practice, both concurred but said “such men are few, perhaps 1:5000.”

Three of the women thought “a white man will never respect a Black man or a Black woman,” and so they have no intension of allowing themselves to be treated less than a cat.” Three of the women -- Bessie, Marie and Aina -- believe that “white boys don’t get circumcised,” and under no condition were they going to go to bed with uncircumcised men. Most of what was said about “uncircumcised white men” cannot be printed here.

The last online acquaintance I spoke with is a product of a biracial relationship, and was raised mostly by her dad with whom she has a very healthy relationship. However, she has not dated a non-black since she was 17. For undergraduate and graduate education, she attended historical black colleges in the south. At 32, more than 95% of her friends are non-blacks. “In spite of the loving relationship I have with my dad and his family…I never could bring myself to dating one of them. The Black world is my world,” she said.

But for women who date and marry White men, what are their lives like? Why did they date and or marry their partners? How does it feel to be removed from the Black world? Are they totally accepted by their non-black friends and in-laws? Are they able to navigate both worlds without feeling like strangers or feeling unwanted in either world? How are they treated by their own friends and family members? And how are they treated, for the first time, when it is known they date or are married to non-Blacks, by new friends, associates and co-workers?  

More questions needs to be asked. Systematic studies needs to be done before one can be definite in ones pronouncements. Nonetheless, there are three distinct impressions one gets whenever one observes Black women who dates or are married to White men. First, insofar as sub-Saharan African women are concerned, they generally do not look or feel comfortable or secured in the company of White men. It is as if they are not completely into the relationship; as if they are holding out to the day when a Black man will come along and take them away.

Second, within the sub-Saharan African group, the Ethiopians seem different. In fact, the majority of Diasporan Africans thinks of and sees Ethiopian women in a not-too-bright light. The intention here is not to perpetuate stereotypes or morbid generalization; still, the general judgment is that a sizeable number of women from that part of the continent would rather marry a White man than a Black man -- even if the White man is less educated, less endowed, less cultured, and is less of everything than the Sub-Saharan.

Finally, the African-American women, within the context of what is being discussed, find themselves in a position they did not bargain for. In most cases, these women have more formal education than their male counterparts; and seem more secured in their career. For such women, finding a fitting man becomes difficulty. Also, an increasing number of educated, successful and marriageable Africa-American men seem to be ignoring Black women for non-Black women.  And so a growing number of well-educated, well-traveled, and successful Black women look to the non-black world for suitors and for well-deserved comfort.

Relationships are not easy to maintain. And love is not easy to come by. In the end though, it really and truly should not matter who one marries or fall in love with. Global events indicate that the world is getting smaller and smaller and becoming more interconnected and integrated. What mattered in yesteryears -- culture, religion, distance, family ties, etc, etc -- may not matter as much today as they once did. One must marry he/she who, amongst other qualities and requirements, thinks the world of us.

Part 2…coming soon

Sabidde@yahoo.com



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RobotRobot is offline

 # 1 | 07.07.2009 09:23

As common as interracial relationships are becoming, the vast majority of such interactions are between Black men and White women. There is also an upswing in liaison between Black men and women of Asian and Latin-America heritage. The evidence for these can be found in places such as Seattle, New York, Los Angeles, and Minneapolis-Saint Paul. But why is marriage, or any type of relationship, between Black women and White men not as common? Are White men afraid of Black women? ...Read the full article.

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AgidimolajaAgidimolaja is offline

 # 2 | 08.07.2009 02:30

Ladies and gentlemen, pls stay in your lane! I do.

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agathamarieagathamarie is offline

 # 3 | 08.07.2009 05:32

im a white lady from the us marred to a nigierian. yes it is rare to see a white man with black women in the us but not for the reasons you think. do you know the most common thing said to me about my interracial relatioship? "why did you have to marry one of ours. arnt your men good enough? you have to take one of the few who isnt in jail or have tons of kids away from us." this is from the black women.

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liloldladyliloldlady is offline

 # 4 | 08.07.2009 06:32


=agathamarie;369911>im a white lady from the us marred to a nigierian. yes it is rare to see a white man with black women in the us but not for the reasons you think. do you know the most common thing said to me about my interracial relatioship? "why did you have to marry one of ours. arnt your men good enough? you have to take one of the few who isnt in jail or have tons of kids away from us." this is from the black women.



I can bet you my last kobo that the statement above did not come from a NIGERIAN woman....
You may have heard it from a Black woman but not from a NIGERIAN WOMAN....Never.
You see our men are not at all what you described.
They usually are.......
Well educated,
Have fantastic work ethics
Strive for top positions in their jobs
Aim high and achieve big
articulate
ambitious
hardworking
born leaders
good providers
community minded
know their roots and are well anchored
Will strive for the best for their offspring unless prevented by circumstances beyond their control.
Will go to the end of the world for their wife and children and make sure they are provided for.
will never be found wanting or lazy, when it comes to doing what it takes, to fulfill his responsibility, even if it means doing any kind of lowly job, just to make sure his family is taken care of.
Will never sit back so a woman will House,feed, and clothe him.
When it comes to being satorially endowed, they could dress as if they are about to grace the cover of GQ.
Are sexy as hell, in and out of the bedroom might I add.

Sorry....wannabes won't do. no way!!!!!
Nigerian men are like cocaine to the system (for moi at least)
(you should know.....you are living with one)

Sorry.....

With all these, why take a chance in the dark for poor imitations.....
Only the best will do....I and my Nigerian sisters prefer to stick to what we know, has proven track record for quality, class, and all the other good things that flow from it.

When we see a Non-Nigerian, married to one of us....we smile a secret smile of satifaction, because we know that here goes a woman, who till the day she dies, will walk with her head high, knowing that in her life, is a man, who can only be classed as the best amongst other men.
no!! we do not suffer from that insecurity you described.
You see, the men I described above, are not in the Minority....nah...they are the norm. they are the normal/default position you get with a Nigerian man....There is no lack of these qualities, or the men who have them for that matter....No shaking.

Edited to add....there is also that not so insignificant matter of personal hygiene
You see with my Nigerian man, the issue of soap and water, will not be in a state of negotiated peace.
it is a given that he will "baff" at least once a day in winter, and no less than twice in warmer climes.

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kalu31kalu31 is offline

 # 5 | 08.07.2009 08:52

intresting.

most brothers from Africa "marry" the whities for the papers and the support , other marry cause white ladies appear more careing (jury still out).

a black sister likes the Benjamins, like to look goood, and especially the "*****" ones too much drama and gragra.

a white lady will move to the village in Owerri with you, a black sister may not..(may ooh), besides why look for something in sokoto ewey dey shokoto!

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ISLISL is offline

 # 6 | 08.07.2009 11:38

see as liloldady is just making my head swell.....

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M. AkosaM. Akosa is offline

 # 7 | 08.07.2009 12:31

Marriage is a source of comfort, strength, nurture and love. It is difficult for one to marry or commit to another person outside of ones own comfort zone. It is not like a career or job, where you backstab, compete, fight and hurt others.
I can understand why so many white men, especially the younger middle class and upwardly mobile ones are not open to marrying black women or crossing those boundaries in terms of procreation and raising family. They are very thoughtful.

Interracial marriage is mostly borne out of or necessitated by immigration purposes and ambitions for upward social mobilty by the party who feels inferior or with lesser social standing in society.

Why would someone spend the rest of their lives marrying someone they will never understand, get to really know, or feel very comfortable with, even their children will sometimes never be accepted by immediate family?
I am proud and happy with my black, black, blacker African children. They fit in every where in the world, they are global citizens and have no identity complex or self hate. They love their skin colour and hair texture. They behave appropriately with every one they encounter, know who to relax with and who not to, can easily identify people and places wary of them and know how to deal with it, without personalizing anything.

Please say NO to interracial marriages.

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toksyleightoksyleigh is offline

 # 8 | 08.07.2009 13:07

Dear M. Akosa,



Why would someone spend the rest of their lives marrying someone they will never understand, get to really know, or feel very comfortable with, even their children will sometimes never be accepted by immediate family?
I am proud and happy with my black, black, blacker African children. They fit in every where in the world, they are global citizens and have no identity complex or self hate. They love their skin colour and hair texture. They behave appropriately with every one they encounter, know who to relax with and who not to, can easily identify people and places wary of them and know how to deal with it, without personalizing anything.



Now this is what I call Black Pride; thank you my sister for your input.

Personally, as a Balck Man, I will have to marry Black 10 times (preferably Nigerian) and if it doesn't work out, then Asians, Indians, Filipinos et all before I will go White.

It's just a matter of preference.

God Help us all,

Goriola Abamieda Jr.

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Anioma777Anioma777 is offline

 # 9 | 08.07.2009 14:19

@liloldlady

They should erect a statue of you or at least a monument with your post engraved at all villages,towns and city squares in Nigeria.:hail::hail::hail:

@agathamarie

I hope for your sake you husband does not reda your post he might start having second thoughts. As liloldlady said that is an average African American woman complaint and most of their men are that way, but its no excuse.

Personally I have dated all and sundry but I prefer black women and espercially Nigerian ( but not cast in stone ), even for brief liasons there is something spiritual about being with an black woman. But at the end of the day its about a person's happiness.

@Agidimolaja


Ladies and gentlemen, pls stay in your lane! I do.



Your too funny with your comment:D

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mulanmulan is offline

 # 10 | 08.07.2009 14:29

Find love where you can people...
 

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