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My Grouse With Yar'adua (unedited) PDF Print E-mail
By Nasir El-Rufai

My Grouse with Yar'Adua (Unedited) - This DAY Saturday Interview - October 17, 2009

The Yar’Adua administration has accused you and Nuhu Ribadu of mounting a campaign against the government abroad. What exactly is your agenda, what have you set out to achieve by mounting opposition against the government from overseas? 

This is completely untrue and wrong on several levels and is reflective of Yar'Adua's way of doing things. First, I have done nothing other than share my three decades of knowing Umaru Yar'Adua as a person for Nigerians at home and abroad to know the true character, motivations and leadership style of our president. And he does not like that because he became president by being unknown by virtually everyone, Yar’Adua deceived everyone including me, and effectively used people I trusted like Tanimu Yakubu to promote character and achievements that were non-existent. By the time I discovered his true color from others that worked with him in Katsina, the election was over. The disclosures in my essay therefore caused him great discomfort. And he does not like that because he became president by being unknown by virtually everyone except in Katsina. 

Secondly, there are three arms of government. And equating Umaru to the government is doing disservice to the judiciary and the legislature. I have greater confidence in our judges than officials of the executive branch headed by Umaru. Even within the executive, some people are working quietly and tirelessly for Nigeria. For instance, I have nothing but commendation for the head of Federal Inland Revenue Service, new CBN Governor and the Head of Civil Service - they are islands of excellence in an ocean of incompetence and self-seeking conduct. 

Thirdly, it is clear that Yar'Adua has made a Faustian bargain - to embrace corrupt people and criminalize those that are honest. Look around and take a roll call - Umaru is more comfortable surrounded by convicted felons, career criminals, smugglers, bribe-takers and dodgy lawyers. These are notorious facts that do not need an El-Rufai to state. In fact, in Yar'Adua's interview with the Guardian earlier this year, he confirmed that his relationship with these people is subsisting and more important to him than honest governance! 

Fourthly, the view that anyone needs to mount any campaign against Yar'Adua abroad is laughable. These countries have embassies in Abuja and consulates in Lagos and have their own information gathering and feedback mechanisms. The media is global now with the Internet. Reuters, AFP, Financial Times, the Economist, BBC, VoA, Deutsche Welle and Radio France, among others, all have correspondents in Nigeria that inform the world. The style of governance exhibited by Umaru Yar'Adua, his embrace of certain characters and the gulf between his words and his actions are well known. Those that attribute Yar'Adua's lack of standing in the world to any other Nigerian should ask him who stopped him from attending two consecutive UN General Assembly meetings in three years. Was it El-Rufai that stopped him? 

Finally, and most importantly, I believe that the duty every Nigerian owes to Nigeria is patriotism, which is love and fidelity to one’s country. Where there is a clash of interest between Nigeria and any one, the interests of Nigeria must prevail. In this instance, I am acting with the utmost good faith established in my heart that the interest of Nigeria and the interests being pursued by Umar Yar’Adua are at variance and I consider it my patriotic duty to speak up about this. This is what I am doing. Now you will agree with me that actions have consequences and my stance has caused me some discomfort at the instance of the administration and I consider this as the price I must pay. 

I have no agenda other than a desire to see my country governed better and standards of living improved for a majority of our people. Nigeria and Nigerians deserve better than what we have seen in the last two and half years. It is wrong to state that I am mounting opposition overseas. When I was in government, I was vocal with my views within and outside the Federal Executive Council. Before I went abroad, I responded to every attack on my reputation and tenure. I have always been this way. The fact that I am abroad was due to my studies. 

What is the response you get from institutions and individuals you talk to about Nigeria and the way it is governed at the moment? 

What I hear from Nigerians and friends of Nigeria are expressions of disappointment and despondency. The country is perceived to be regressing domestically and internationally. Some even go as far as predicting the failure of the Nigerian state if the current trajectory is maintained, with grave consequences for the stability of our sub-region, the continent and the pride of Black people all over the world. You live in Nigeria - and my question to you is – ‘are you better off than you were 30 months ago?’ I think every Nigerian, except a handful of Yar'Adua's cronies will answer in the negative. 

Won’t your objective have had greater impact if you had to oppose and critique the government from home? 

I am not a social critic, either by training or orientation. My public service record in both BPE and FCT - is there for all to see - I did not criticise and lament, I did not say one thing and did the opposite, I took tough decisions and got things done no matter whose ox was gored. And even though I had decided not to be in public service any longer, when Yar'Adua asked me to serve in the National Energy Council, I accepted as it was part time, and I believed he was serious about addressing our energy challenges. I resigned when I realized that it was sloganeering 'ad infinitum', and left the country for my studies shortly after. 

I had things to do abroad like completing my studies. And I can comment on the state of my country wherever I am. Millions of Nigerians in the Diaspora participate in their nation's governance that way. The feeling that only those resident in Nigeria know what is going on, or are the only ones qualified to comment is incorrect. An administration that shuts down newspapers, and arrests journalists and bloggers must be confronted both from within and outside Nigeria. I happen to be abroad now, but will return home at my own time to continue what I believe to be the right thing. 

Being a prominent member of the PDP and a member of the last administration right in the thick of policy formulation, to what extent has continuity been sustained in the present PDP government? 

The Yar'Adua administration is characterized by policy suspension, reversal and discontinuities. So continuity has existed only in breach. Examples abound but I’ll give you just one. Take the NIPP, ex president Obasanjo was very anxious about the power situation in Nigeria and set up this project. When Yar'Adua came in, he made statements while receiving Oby Ezekwesili in her new capacity at the World Bank to the effect that he believed that the amounts spent by Obasanjo were wasted. He came up with a figure of $10 billion. When his own Senior Special Assistant (Engr. Foluseke Shomolu) wrote him a memo to the effect that the figure quoted was inaccurate, the president fired him. Very conveniently, the House of Representatives began a probe of the NIPP under Obasanjo and sensationalised it. The National Economic Council also had a committee under Governor Suswan of Benue reviewing this NIPP. After a year, both committees were not able to establish any wrongdoing against Obasanjo and in fact confirmed that the actual amount spent was not $10 billion, but actually a fraction of that amount (less than $6 billion committed and $3 billion actually disbursed - the exact amounts quoted by Engr. Shomolu). And all that time, General Electric turbines worth billions were rotting away at our ports all because this administration wanted to gain traction by maligning its predecessor. 

In his campaign video posted (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4iBy39WzLlI) on the Internet, Yar'Adua promised to generate 30,000MW by 2011 and 50,000MW by 2015. The target of 10,000MW by December 2007 has been revised downwards to 6,000MW by December 2009, while in mid October they cannot generate half that number. So to answer your question in specifics, this administration has thrown continuity to the dogs. And more worrying is that since he came into office, he has not fulfilled a single promise he made while campaigning, at his inauguration and in all his speeches. The Yar'Adua administration does not appreciate the most basic lesson of nation-building: it is done through policy continuity and building on foundations from generation to generation. 

Which major policies or programmes do you believe should have been brought to fruition in a timely and efficient manner? 

In his Inauguration Speech, Yar'Adua promised to do a whole lot. In my view, four items should have commanded his attention and brought to closure by now - complete the power supply improvement programme (the NIPP and related projects by December 2007 as scheduled), the Niger Delta infrastructure development programme, the railway modernization programme and Electoral Reforms. 

I chaired the very last cabinet committee on power supply improvement and we had identified all the bottlenecks to timely completion. The turbines were already in-country then, and what was needed was to focus on accelerating the gas gathering and transmission projects, build access roads to some of the sites and resolve compensation issues in a couple of communities. The funds were available – he just needed focused project management, but Yar'Adua did not comprehend the issues and put everything on-hold for two years with cost overruns that I am sure will cost the nation billions. 

The Lagos-Kano twin-track, standard gauge railway line would have revolutionized transportation and reduced the price variance of agricultural and consumer goods across the country, while relieving pressure on our crumbling road infrastructure. Yar'Adua suspended that and is still unsure which way to go. This will also cost the nation billions in contract cancellation costs or overruns if the suspension is lifted. 

The Niger Delta Master Plan had been prepared and subjected to extensive consultations within the region. Its implementation would have provided the enabling environment for enhancing employment opportunities, internal security and growth of the economy. Several key infrastructure projects had been commenced and would have been completed if there was the will and commitment. That was put on hold and the Ledum Mittee Technical Committee report was produced and never implemented either. The new buzzword is amnesty and we hope that when the hype is over, the real work of infrastructure development, governance and security improvements will be addressed. 

The Uwais Electoral Reform Committee produced an excellent piece of work complete with draft legislation and constitutional amendments. The Yar'Adua administration's response was to first misrepresent some of the recommendations and then use his dodgy lawyers to ensure that the resulting White Paper will lead to no reforms at all. It is the same Yar'Adua style - say one thing, keep repeating it to convince people, and then do the exact opposite with a straight face! 

It is not too late for Yar'Adua to redeem himself and wake up to these issues and a few more that focused implementation will lead to results before the next elections in 2010 or 2011.

Are there things you feel that could have been handled differently either as a minister or as the director general of the BPE? 

No human being is perfect and one is learning all the time as one gets older and more knowledgeable. But as I have said before, I have never repeated a class in my life, so I never look back. I tried to execute any assignment given to me by getting smart people to work with me, empowering them and driving execution. I leave the judgment on what we did in both BPE and FCT to posterity.

How would you react to the notion that your seminar presentation while at Harvard on the state of governance in Nigeria was driven by vendetta? 

I do not understand the vendetta you are referring to. How can an individual standing up in protection of his reputation, life and property against an insecure, lawless and vicious president be accused of vendetta? I do not have the wherewithal of a person in control of the coercive powers and unlimited treasury of the state to pursue a vindictive agenda. 

I supported Umaru Yar'Adua's bid for the presidency. I raised money for him. I campaigned for him. I was not prepared to rig for him so Buhari won in FCT. And I left Abuja to mind my own business. I have said this before and I will say it again - I am grateful to God for many blessings, particularly because I am a person incapable of envy towards another person, or fear of any person born of a woman. I had the greatest respect and feelings of warmth towards Yar'Adua. Of course, I did everything in good faith believing that he was the right leader who would be fair and just in his governance style. 

Then he decided that some of us are threats to him. A campaign of character assassination, false allegations and charges, and threats to my life and property then ensued. What am I to do when the whole machinery of the government goes in a persecution-mania against me - an ordinary citizen. And the president keeps denying that he is the architect of it all? 

I had no choice but to defend myself, and in doing so show that the accusers are the wrong doers. I had to begin systematic research and documentation of Yar'Adua and his cronies to make my defence effective and credible. Part of that included unmasking Yar'Adua's style. And I have more, much more, to be published in future essays and my memoirs. The lack of any concrete accomplishments by Yar'Adua and the preference for slogans to addressing real problems, have not helped him either. 

Yar'Adua started the war against my person. I am simply responding - against the whole might of the Nigerian state. No self-respecting person could be expected to accept what is going on by raising a white flag of surrender or succumbing to the impotence of resignation. I call that defending one's reputation, not vendetta. As Isaac Newton said, every action has an equal and opposite reaction. I am simply putting things in the right perspective while also performing my patriotic duty by alerting my nation to the dangers posed by this form of leadership and in doing this I am going against the whole might of the Nigerian state improperly deployed by this administration. 

And everything I wrote in my essays is true and has not been contradicted by Yar'Adua and his people. They sponsored anonymous writers to attack my person and attribute motives, many of which are laughable. No one impeached the facts or Yar'Adua's character profile and as time wears on, more and people will see the truth of what I wrote. In summary I will say this - in Nigeria, as things stand now, the inmates are running the asylum. 

Now that you’ve finished your academic studies at Harvard, what are doing to pre-occupy yourself these days and where exactly are you resident? 

Since graduation from Harvard in June, I have gone on a long holiday - something I have not had for over 10 years. I have been writing what will be an interim memoir, and reconnecting with my children. Many of my children grew up while I was busy being a public servant. I am now catching up and rebuilding my relationship with them. I have been spending most of my time in the USA, the UK, Lebanon and the United Arab Emirates. 

Are there any international job offers that have come your way or are coming your that you are considering? 

I have had offers but my preoccupation has always been Nigeria. I have worked abroad twice for short spells before and did not quite enjoy it. I was a Teaching Assistant at Harvard which I enjoyed very much, persuading me that my true calling is teaching in a University. May be that is what I will do when I return home. 

Is there any chance of you coming home to take on the authorities over the charges they have against you? 

All the charges as well as EFCC's falsehood are being challenged in court. My lawyers are doing an excellent job of that. The government has one case against me and I have filed six against them. There are two cases of violation of international law in foreign jurisdictions. One of the cases against the government is scheduled for judgment in November. I intend to be back home, in sha Allah, before Christmas, this year. 

You always spoke of writing your memoirs at some point, is this something you might be considering? I am certain it will be explosive and possibly a best seller here in Nigeria. 

As stated above, I have been writing my story - what I call an interim memoir, because I am not yet 50 and too young really to write a real memoir. My nine years in government have been quite eventful and I think my story will inspire as well as prepare young people of humble backgrounds to the challenges of public leadership. It has not been easy and the experience of writing has humbled me and made me respect writers even more. 

The story will be factual and will contain supporting documents and records of my service. I kept detailed notes and diaries and have copies of all my key products while in PIMCO (1998-99) BPE (1999-2003), FCT (2003-2007) and the Presidential Persecution Period (2007 to date-). I hope it will be an inspiration to our young people. I will be happy if it becomes a bestseller - God knows I need the money! 

With respect to your travel documents, I noticed your lawyers are challenging the propriety of the FG instructing our embassies not to issue you a new passport or offer any consular assistance. What are their chances of upturning the decision? 

The story of the denial of the renewal of my passport and the blanket refusal of consular services to Nuhu Ribadu and I are illustrative of the double-speak of the Yar'Adua administration. They talk about rule of law and observe the rules only in breach. 

The administration's problem is rooted in the thinking that Nigeria is a feudal-medieval empire under Yar’Adua instead of a 21st century democracy. Its lack of foresight stems from failure to appreciate that in today's age, information transparency must be taken as given. When I was in BPE, I had a rule to guide my colleagues when they are taking a decision and are unsure if it is the right one - The Front Page Rule – ‘If what you have decided appears on the Front Page of THISDAY tomorrow, would you be able to defend it?’ If you can, go to sleep, it is the right decision, and if you cannot - think again. If the media had not obtained and published the damning evidence of their decisions and actions, they would have maintained the lie that – ‘El-Rufai was too big and arrogant to observe due process and wait one week for the passport.’ The Nigerian media caught them red-handed and we are grateful for the vigilance and integrity of some sections of our media and blogging community for this patriotic expose. 

The Supreme Court had already ruled clearly on the matter in Olisa Agbakoba's case against the SSS so our chances are near 100%. In addition, I had petitioned the UN Human Rights Council for the violation of my rights under Nigeria's treaty commitments. I was certain to win in the long term, but Yar'Adua was not bothered. He was willing to infringe on my rights, his oath of office and ignore the Constitution as long as it inconvenienced me, and ensured that I cannot return to Nigeria. They do not want me back while shouting since October 2008 that they were going to extradite me. 

How do you travel right now? 

My passport is still valid, I think, till 2012. It is just that I ran out of pages for visas. I have speaking engagements all over the world and some businesses I am pursuing. These I have been unable to do because the passport booklet is full. I can travel but cannot apply for new visas. It is inconvenient and may have cost me some lost business opportunities so I am looking at options for legal redress. 

Have there been any threats whatsoever to your person or family overseas? 

No, there have been no threats to me or my family abroad. However, I have hired lawyers who keep the authorities in the countries I visit informed of my movements just to be on the safe side. 

Your wife and children had problems with the Nigerian Immigration Service recently when they flew into the country, what exactly was the problem; were they unduly harassed and held in the airport against they will? 

First I think it is important to clarify that the Immigration Service DID NOT unduly detain my family. It was the SSS that did that. The immigration officers were courteous and stamped the passports even if they took over 40 minutes. After this, the SSS seized the passports and held on to them for an hour or so, while my family waited for clearance from the “powers that be”. And it was not the Immigration Service that refused to renew my passport, it was the Nigerian High Commission in the UK on the orders of President Umaru Yar'Adua to the NSA and then to DG-NIA. 

Has any one tried to make overtures to you from the government or on its behalf to resolve your differences with the administration? 

I am not aware of any such overtures. And I do not have differences with the administration. I am just one of Yar'Adua’s targets. He considers any Northerner with a reasonable profile a threat to his life presidency, followed by succession by his family members. These are not based on any facts, logic or common sense and are near impossible to settle. 

Do you see any end in sight to the current impasse? 

Everything that has a beginning invariably has an end including life itself will end one day, so this will end. Yar'Adua is president now and has the machinery of state to harass me and my family and propagate stories to tarnish my reputation. He will leave that office one day no matter what. Then the impasse will end. As for me, as long as I live, I will speak out to defend any false allegations against me and use every legal machinery available up to the highest courts in the land. 

Has your experience since leaving government given you a new perspective on life, politics, management, humanity, etc? 

Certainly. When you leave a high-profile public office, you go through an adjustment process which tests your faith in humanity, your self-confidence and trust in the future. Depending on how far one deluded oneself in believing what the sycophants around ingrained in the mind, the adjustment process can be easy or painful. 

In my case, I am lucky to have faithful spouses, good friends and family members who not only helped ground me when I was in the corridors of power, but supported me through the period of adjustment. The fact that I was busy completing two degrees in two years also helped. The problem from Yar'Adua added to the burden but it was beneficial as it helped me know who my real friends and family members are. In some ways, I am grateful to him for the experience - painful as it has been. I thank God for President Yar’Adua because the persecution and pain only drew me closer to my Creator. 

I have learnt a lot from this experience and I think on the whole, it is going to make me a better manager of my life, human and financial resources. That I am in excellent health in spite of these stresses is something I will forever be grateful to Allah for His Blessings, Mercies and Grace. 

Would you contemplate running for elective office sometime in the future? 

This is not the issue for me now. My priority is to protect my reputation, bond with my family and rebuild my personal finances. I will be active in the political space certainly, but running for office and full-time public service are not on my table right now. I intend to collaborate with other like-minded Nigerians to release our nation from the current administration. Nigeria deserves better, and I will work with anyone and in any capacity to have better quality leadership elected for Nigeria in 2011. Yar'Adua Must Go!

As FCT minister you went about the demolition and revocation of several properties leading to several court cases and subsequent rulings by the courts which you often times disregarded. Now you are seeking justice from the same justice system. Don’t you think your actions at the time could be used against you in the present cases you have against the government by judges whom you once discountenanced?

This is one of the falsehoods promoted by the Yar'Adua administration and I am happy for the opportunity to respond and debunk them. First, there was never an instance in which as Minister I was served with a court order and I disobeyed it. With regards demolition, the only case I remember is that of Bulet Construction that illegally occupied government land and was given ample time to relocate. The court order was not served on us and the Chief Judge of the FCT who gave the order discharged it after being availed of Ismaila Funtua's shameless and illegal conduct.

When any person is seen to disobey a Court Order, the Court can order arrest and imprisonment. It is not the President or the media that can remedy the disobedience. And indeed, in one case involving sale of houses, I appeared before a judge of the FCT High Court and defended my actions and was accordingly discharged. If I had convinced the judge, he could have imprisoned me for contempt of court. So it is totally false to assert that I "often times" disregarded court orders. In fact I never did. The two cases I mentioned both involved improper service or no service at all, of the orders and I cannot obey an order that I have not been served. This is what both judges found.

Now coming to the reference of my cases to the justice system, the Judges, particularly those resident in Abuja know what we did as an administration. The lies, the rumours and innuendo are not lost on them. And they know the truth - not Yar'Adua's version. In any case, it is my right to approach the judiciary for redress and I have every confidence in their fairness.

And indeed, what has occurred in the courts of law so far has vindicated the legality of our policies and decisions. The State Governor of Anambra, Peter Obi lost his plot of land due to failure to develop within the statutory time frame. He challenged the revocation decision in an Abuja High Court. The Court ruled that the revocation was properly done and Governor Obi lost . Former Minister of Aviation Oluwole Adeosun had a plot revoked due to non-development over 10 years after allocation. He sued me personally when I was no longer Minister for improper exercise of power and sought damages. The Abuja High Court gave judgment against Chief Adeosun just last week. We just have to wait and see how the rest of the cases play out.

Your stewardship in the FCT resulted in a probe by the Senate which unearthed a lot of allegations over land and property allocated to yourself, friends and family. Did you not compromise your position as minister by awarding land and property to yourself and family, among several other charges?

Let me respond by setting the record straight with facts. First, It is not true that as Minister, I allocated any plot of land to myself. Instead, I revoked a plot allocated to me in Asokoro by Minister Kontagora in 1998 for my failure to develop by 2006! The plot was allocated to an applicant I do not know and has been developed already. And I challenge any one to prove otherwise with facts.

Second, the ownership of a plot of land in Abuja is the right of every Nigerian of age who has applied. In the FCT, I took the unprecedented step of working with the Federal Executive Council to enact delegated legislation to guide land administration. Among other policies, I recommended a modification of the absolute discretion of the FCT Minister in land allocation by limiting my discretionary allocation from 100% to 20%. The FEC approved allocation of land in the FCT based on defined criteria and limited discretion as follows :

• Every Nigerian citizen above 21 years/company with Directors above 18 years is qualified for at least ONE plot.

• Valid and subsisting application with payment of charges.

• For residential land the criteria shall be:

o Equality of States: 60%

o Population: 10%

o Public Servants in FCT: 10%

o Ministerial Discretion: 20%

• Equality of States is not equality of allocation but dependent on applications received.

• Capacity to develop is the key criterion as Abuja needs to be developed rapidly.

• City and Satellite Town allocations are dependent on financial capacity evidenced by income levels.

• Non-residential allocations shall be based on need and capacity to develop.

It is the practice for public servants and high-ranking government officials to exercise the discretions under the powers of their office to enrich themselves through the use of front companies, fake names and names of close associates and even deceased family members. It is my refusal to do this but to comply with the criteria approved above that became the kernel of the elite anger against me. I am not a hypocrite. I will not allocate a plot of land to my wife under a fake name. If she applied for plot and meets the criteria approved by the FEC above, I will approve the allocation and that is what I did. In all, I approved the allocation of land to over 27,000 applicants that I do not know, yet I am expected to exclude those that I know. That is hypocritical. Any one that is qualified and entitled to land should be allocated.

If you are suggesting that approving the allocation of a plot of land to one's friends and relations compromises one, then I will say, you are relegating one's friends and relations to the status of second class citizens - an unconstitutional and illegal act and violation of the oath of office we took as public servants. As for the accuser, Umaru Yar'Adua, I have a list of his friends and relations that were allocated plots of land, carved out of government land in Katsina GRA during his tenure. Does that make him a criminal? I do not agree.

A follow-up to that is the case of the judge whose house the FCTA took over and was later to die possibly as a result of that experience. Don’t you think that all these helped to compound your problems with the National Assembly and federal government, and isn’t there a tinge of guilt over what happened to the judge?

This is the misrepresented case of late Justice Bashir Sambo. Let me clarify for the umpteenth time. First, judges houses were not among those to be sold under the FGN Sale of Houses programme. The initial error in offering the house to Sambo was because he was chairman of the Code of Conduct Tribunal, now chaired by Justice Constance Momoh. When the error was discovered and based on advice from both the then Chief Justice of Nigeria and the then Attorney-General of the Federation, the offer was withdrawn and monies refunded. Justice Sambo collected the monies and took us to Court.

He had retired by then , living rent-free and Justice Momoh was staying in hotel accommodation. There was no court order restraining us and after several notices and his requests for more time, he was legally and properly ejected. The man was over 70 years old, and even babies die when it is their time. As I challenged Senator Smart Adeyemi during the public hearings, I do not know if he is a pathologist and whether an autopsy of Sambo's corpse was undertaken to attribute cause of death. It is all useless rabble rousing and this will not bother me in any way. Sambo is dead and cannot defend himself so I am reluctant to go further. In my memoirs I will publish some of his letters to me to shed more light on this and other issues. In the end it is God that will judge between us.

The National Assembly and I have had a long relationship of adversarial interaction. Right from my BPE days, I had cause to take them to court and won a judgment that defined and limited the powers of the legislature, (El-Rufai v. House of Representatives (2003) 46 WFN 70-103) saying that the only two cases that the legislature can pursue are investigations of corruption and misspending of public funds. 

Then came the Mantu-Zwingina affair and "Silence is the best answer to a fool" incident. Another attempt to victimize came with a pronouncement on 25th of May, 2005 from the House of Representatives that sought to ban me for the first time from public office for life. In the ensuing review of the case, the Federal High Court, Abuja, delivered a judgment on the 24th of July, 2006 – the second court ruling against the Nigerian parliament in my favour. It is not expected that I will ever get fair treatment from the legislative arm of the Nigerian government.

And this was compounded by the undue influence, collusion and outright bribery of the legislators with plots of land in Maitama and Asokoro, and even houses allocated to them and their staff in Abuja by my successor. We have details of all these that will be published in my memoirs.

As a key and loyal member of the Obasanjo government, you were perceived to have supported the Third Term plot of the former president. Why did you support what was obviously unconstitutional?

I am happy you used the word "perceived". I did not support what you call the Third Term Plot. Indeed, a few of us that took principled positions on the matter paid (and are still paying) a heavy price because the Yar'Adua administration is a government of Third-Termers. Yar'Adua hosted the "consultations" for the North West Zone in Katsina in which two protesters were killed. When the story of Third Term is written, people like Senator Ken Nnamani, Hon Aminu Bello Masari, and Dr. Usman Bugaje in the legislature then, and some people in the media will reveal the truth. All I am prepared to say at this point is I never supported Third Term, but I know those who did. My memoirs will provide more details.

Don’t most of the problems you have with Yar’Adua stem from the fact that you might have coveted the top job yourself and were disappointed when Obasanjo threw his weight behind Yar’Adua? Even Nuhu Ribadu, your close friend and ally was alleged to have told Yar’Adua that he would not support his candidacy, and that he’ll only support you for the office of the president. 

I did not covet any job and have never done so in my life. Apart from the first job I applied for during my NYSC, I have never applied or lobbied for a job in my life. What often happens is that my abilities are observed by someone who needs them and makes an offer. While many people, (and this may include Nuhu Ribadu) had enough confidence in me to think I could run for an elective office - state governor, senator or president - I have never considered adding these burdens to my life. I am humbled and appreciative of the thought, but my answer has always been, thanks but no thanks.

As I said before, Yar'Adua's spiritualists have told him that I was one of his competitors and consistent with his feudal-medieval mindset, he has decided that it is essential that when two princes compete for a throne, the losing prince must die. So as the prince that in his mind lost, I must be destroyed at all costs. His Attorney General has confirmed that in his media briefing in April. And I am not the only one - Ahmed Adamu Muazu (Bauchi), Ahmed Makarfi (Kaduna) and Abdullahi Adamu were all competitors that must be similarly excluded from the mainstream and destroyed if possible. That is vintage Umaru. But he forgets that there is God, who has control over all things.

Is it true that you are sponsoring or supporting a political party on which you might possibly contest or use as a platform to support someone else against Yar’Adua?

It is true that I am involved in widespread outreach and consultations to form a coalition that will challenge Yar'Adua's desire to punish Nigerians with incompetent and corrupt governance. Whether the outreach leads to the creation of a political party will be a matter to be determined democratically by those that are leaders and members of the Group. I am certainly determined to support someone else that will be better than Yar'Adua. That person will emerge from the consultations and internal democratic process within the Group - and it will not be like what just happened in Anambra State!

You said in your response that current power generation capacity is not up to probably less than half of the 6,000MW December target. This assertion is not entirely correct. The Power Minister who once worked under you in the BPE recently revealed that we have generating capacity of almost 5,000MW and the government is on course to meet the 6,000MW target in 3 months. Doesn’t this indicate that the FG is trying to keep to its promise, even if not the campaign pledge?

It is not "generating capacity" Yar'Adua promised to raise to 6,000MW. Nigeria's installed generating capacity was above 6,000MW even in 2003 when I was in BPE and was briefly member of the NEPA Technical Board. What Yar'Adua promised and my former colleague, Dr. Lanre Babalola is to deliver is raising "actual generating capacity to 6,000MW (from about 3,200MW when we handed over), transmitting and distributing it nationwide". Right now they are NOT generating, transmitting and distributing 5,000MW. And we will check back on the 31st of December. Everyone should be vigilant so they do not change their story to installed capacity, blame the militants or blowing pipelines, or God for interfering with the rainy season.

You must admit that some measure of success has been recorded through the amnesty programme; at least there is peace in the Niger Delta. What more does the government have to do to consolidate on what has been achieved so far? 

I am prepared to accept that the militants and their leaders have been offered money and promised contracts and jobs to lay down some of their arms. And they will continue to be paid in lieu of earnings from kidnapping and oil bunkering. I hope the truce holds. But as I said, the hard work must begin - economic development is impossible without investments in physical infrastructure and human capital, and security of lives and property. These cannot be achieved without better governance in the region. With criminals like James Ibori still pulling the strings, I do not know how that can happen. Like every well-meaning Nigerian, we hope Yar'Adua will wake up and start addressing the fundamental problems - by clear thinking and hard work, not sloganeering and bribery.

I see you are travelling around a lot, where are the resources coming from to support your travel, business and living expenses?

I have been travelling between the UK, USA and the Middle East mostly. Wherever possible I use some of the over 1 million air miles I accumulated in my years in public service. Other times, I pay with my savings and earnings. By the grace of God, I became a chartered quantity surveyor licensed to practice in the UK and indeed every Commonwealth country since 1982. My consulting firm - El-Rufai & Partners founded in 1982 still thrives with offices in Abuja and Lagos. I have made some investments in telecoms and financial services that have turned out to be profitable. 

I am grateful to God. I have never been very rich but have never lacked anything in my life. My family members - particularly my brothers - have been generous, and a handful of friends as well.

I work too, consulting for companies and countries wishing to do business in African countries. For instance, at Harvard, I was engaged as Teaching Assistant for Statistics. And my needs are not much. I live a simple and austere life. Most of my money is spent on books and electronic gadgets.



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 # 1 | 17.10.2009 08:09

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 # 2 | 17.10.2009 11:21

Not a big fan of Mallam Rufai but this is his fisrt interview I can read objectively and the picture he paints of Yar Adua IS too troubling. Esp when one considers that he may actually run and 'win' a second term.
Thank God MY personal timeline for change in Nigeria is in the next 50 to 100 yrs cos we really do have a very long way to go with all these CIP (Charlattans In Power)!

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 # 3 | 17.10.2009 11:43

Mallam El-rufai. Greetings and trust you are feeling quite triumphant after the passport palaver. Now that they are ready to give you a passport, we hear that you are insisting that na only UN fit give you Naija passport. Na wa o! E be like say no be passport you want but just to give them wahala.

Who would have thought that a Nigerian passport, which is perhaps the most derided document at entry ports in the developed world would be something that our government would choose to do yanga with? Anyway, a toloto can only do yanga with wetin he get, dirty or not.

Mallam Giant, on behalf of my fellow villagers and as an elder in the square, I want to complain a bit. You are getting too visible these days o. You keep disturbing us with all this essay after essay that is proving a big headache to read including the dogon turenci inside. The day before yesterday na petition dem say make we sign. Yesterday na podcast you dey do. Today na interview. Mallam make I ask you, You no get work to do? If Yardie no give you work, you no go find work to do instead of disturbing our peace with your whinning and whinning and whinning? Haba Mallam Guntun Doya?!?!

When you were in government, it was your bulldozers that were disturbing us. Now you have found another way of disturbing our peace with weekly essays, podcasts and petitions. Wetin now? I beg now!

Now to your interview. We know that the interviewer, Ijeoma Nwogwugwu ne ko(?) wey dey behind the figures for ThisDay, worked for you at BPE, so the interview was really a kids glove affair. No be so? That kind paddy paddy interview that Nigerian journos do with Ibori.

Anyway, I think that you are holding UMYA's government to a higher standard than you have held any other Nigerian government. Why? Afterall, they are not the first government that has not kept its promises. In fact, we are still looking for a Nigerian government that will keep its promises so we can give it a gold medal.

Obasanjo promised us power within six months, we did not get it and still don't have it. Obasanjo cavorted with criminals, people's wives and convicts, we did not hear you complain when Chris Uba was kidnapping a governor and Obasanjo allowed him a battalion of mobile policemen. We did not hear you complain about lack of due process, when your paddy Nuhu hijacked a whole house of assembly pending when they were ready to impeach their governor. We did not hear you complain, when Obasanjo was squeezing government contractors to donate to his private causes. We did not hear you complain about Adedibu when he was publicly advocating for the sharing of security votes in Oyo state. Obasanjo promised us free and fair elections, by your admission, you were part of the process of ensuring a pre-determined objective that was the product of anything but free and fair elections. Infact, we did not hear you complain when you and Ibori were working towards enthroning Yar'Adua in office. When did you know that Ibori was a crook? You claimed somewhere earlier that you opposed the third term, it is a suprise that your protest was a whisper, abi na whimper sef because we no hear you, when you were in office and now that you are out of office, your voice come loud pass loudspeaker. Haba short man devil!

Mallam El rufai, the truth of the matter is that your disappointment with Yar'Adua is personal and is not on behalf of Nigerians. It is not because you are disappointed that he did not continue the policies of the Otta brigade. It is because you expected that you were going to be part of the continued despoilation of the land but the Katsina boys outsmarted you. It is not because you did not do your best as best as you can when you were there. It is not because the power did not go to your head and you saw yourself as a Django in a western movie. It is because suddenly Nigeria is no longer safe for you while out of power. Mallam, welcome to our world. This is how it is for 99.5% of Nigerians. You may have lost sight of that having spent a continuous 9 years in the villa flying high and playing footsie with the fortunes of the people. Now is reality check time. Its the time to harvest the wind.

It is true that they really do not want you back because of your nuisance value. You too do not want to go back because you don't want to spend time at Kuje Hilton. So stop all this shakara oloje of you are going back, you are going back. Just do it!! Nuhu did not tell anybody that he was going or coming. He just did it. And it was he that had been shot at before o, not you.

I can only close by reminding you of the plight of Umaru Dikko. When the Shagari regime was rightfully turfed out, he was the only one going about doing what you are doing. Denigrating the government of the day, abusing them and calling them names. That's how he found himself in a crate and his life has never been the same since. Smarter dudes like Akinloye and others just kept their heads down in exile to fight another day.

So thank you Mallam Giant for another irrisistible diatribe. I know that you will not hear word and continue to disturb us here with your complaint against UMYA. You however need you to show respect because;

1. He is not your mate.
2. He has been sworn in as our President, thanks to you.

Stop abusing him like he is your mate afterall, he senior you well well if nothing else. Shikena


Aluta!


Alhaji Gwobezentashi Janinjaka of Malumfashi via Saminaka

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AuspiciousAuspicious is offline

 # 4 | 17.10.2009 12:56

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At the end of the day, Nasir El-Rufai stands condemned of the very acts he is complaining about (at least, in light of the performance and activity of the government he served in). At almost every turn of his interview, one thing that kept recurring in the reader's mind goes like "Ah, Obasanjo did that too - oh, and that other one too Obasanjo did", thereby making it too inconvenient to place much value on his protestations, as sincere or genuine as they may seem to be.

I see a man tormented by two things: First, he is tormented by a past that tolerated or condoned wrongdoings, some by himself(?) and others by those around him - including his erstwhile boss, the Balogun of Owu. It is hardly Mr. El-Rufai's place to cry foul now, when throughout the arrogant tenure of the incumbent President's predecessor, El-Rufai hardly uttered a peep of criticism, especially given that he served in the capacity of a political appointee and not a civil servant.

Two, he is now a victim of the very kind of arrogant and vindictive autocracy that reigned under his then-boss, Olusegun Obasanjo, who bullied and persecuted everybody and anybody who dared disagree with him, for example by starving a whole state as Lagos of its share of federal revenue despite the courts declaring such an action illegal. I wish I was the journalist who interviewed this man, for I will like to see if he's ready to admit that wrongs existed in the past, too.

Nevertheless, much to my chagrin, I find myself comparing the failure of the past government to the failures (or abject poverty of initiatives and success) of the currrent government. If there is any reason to believe that we should NEVER settle for less where the choice to seek excellence abound, examples are legion in Nigeria's recent history. But we Nigerians (or should I say black folks everywhere) tend to want to 'manage" things all the time, deluding ourselves that "this time will be better".

By now, zero tolerance for less than we deserve should be our mantra, while keeping at the back of our minds that rare flashes of goodness should be encouraged rather than trashed, bathwater and all. As I was saying, I am now looking back to the days of the past government with a weird sense of 'longing' (I spit the sentence out with bitterness for lack of a better phraseology!). Back then, as recent as 6 years ago, the nation still commanded some modicum of respect and a tiny prospect for transformation.

Yes, it's the bitter truth: the Federal Capital Territory was edging back towards its original masterplan. Parks were being built. Investments, though laced by corruption here and there, were trickling back in. Citizens who had long departed and given up on the country were straddling borders, half-in, half-out, wondering if the slight uptick will continue. We had balanced sheets in the Federal Finance Ministry with Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala at the helms. Education under Oby Ekwelesili was bending slightly towards progress.

Nuhu Ribadu, baggage and all, warts and all, was (pretending to) work towards re-establishing our image on the corruption front. You know, it was slow, but you could see a tiny bit of consciense - even if a little pretencious - show in the activities of those in power. The office of the President of the Federal Republic managed to carry a semblance of respect in many places that the current one cannot boast of - possibly the reason why the incumbent dickhead there now would not make use of the privilege of a Forum as the United Nations General Assembly to make a case for himself - if he had any.

We should never have settled for Umaru Yar'Adua after that last election. But to say so would make it right to say that we should NEVER have settled for Obasanjo in 2003 as well. Or, to go another step further, even in 2000. But God knows the relief that came after the last of a string of goons rushed through an election process and quickly passed the buckle before he misteriously expired like the 'Seed of Chucky' (Abacha) before him. Today, we live with the consequences of our collective tolerance of the intolerable.

If that country must change, if we must take that country back, we must dare to be mad enough to make this government the last one that lacks the credibility to govern us. The next elections must not just be free and fair, but should past the strongest test of electoral credibility. And the plan to achieve that need not start a few months to the elections, but must start NOW! Ordinarily, protests to ensure the implementation of the much-touted electoral reform should be rumbling across the nation already, crippling activities until the Head-Goat in the Abuja is forced to respond to it in person and see to it that it is activated.

The bastard who heads the Independent National Electoral Commission should set free to go and hang himself somewhere. Why he remains in office should get one as mad as a hatter, except that one is already aware that between the Boss and the Bitch, there is hardly any difference and both will never be willing to let go of each other. And the same goes for the rest of them, from the thug who doubles as the Federal Attorney-General to the shit-bearer (formerly of NAFDAC) who doubles as the Federal Image-Maker.

Those who hold the aces of that country are blind to reason and therefore, no amount of sane talk or appeal will convince them to let fairness and justice reign. The last batch (though they are just as bad) were at least pretending to listen and reacting in a way that seem to suggest that they did in fact seem to want to look good in the eyes of the world given what they tried to do. But this current bunch are a conscienceless bunch of carpetbaggars who don't seem to understand what shame means. If in the past, we were warring against the devil, today, the devil has won and is having a laugh at the high-table.

I don't know what the future will be like for our country, if all it'll do is keep on lurching on and on and on and on. But I do know that the only thing that can change the destiny of that country for progress is a popular insurrection to say "ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!" - wether civil or violent, preferably the former. That is the only 'sense' that these minute proportion of unconscionable greedy and arrogant Nigerians can understand. Anything else is giving them more time to stuff their pockets and arrogate more and more power unto themselves - all of them, from Yorubaland to Igboland to Hausaland. The whole lot of them!

The question is, when will we stop being such individualistic, selfish survivors? When will we begin to make sacrifices towards that wish we want to witness of our country? Those who hold the aces have sacrificed everything they have got already: name, honor, conscience, integrity - everything, without a care in the world for the consequences! When are we going to invest our own assets to fulful our desire for everything we seek of our societies, as opposed to what we seek for ourselves as individuals? Until we begin to confront these questions with sincerity, Nigeria will continue to lurch along on the road to perdition.

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 # 5 | 17.10.2009 12:59


The Yar’Adua administration has accused you and Nuhu Ribadu of mounting a campaign against the government abroad. What exactly is your agenda, what have you set out to achieve by mounting opposition against the government from overseas?

This is completely untrue and wrong on several levels and is reflective of Yar'Adua's way of doing things. First, I have done nothing other than share my three decades of knowing Umaru Yar'Adua as a person for Nigerians at home and abroad to know the true character, motivations and leadership style of our president. And he does not like that because he became president by being unknown by virtually everyone, Yar’Adua deceived everyone including me, and effectively used people I trusted like Tanimu Yakubu to promote character and achievements that were non-existent. By the time I discovered his true color from others that worked with him in Katsina, the election was over. The disclosures in my essay therefore caused him great discomfort. And he does not like that because he became president by being unknown by virtually everyone except in Katsina.



Why now? Why are u just telling us about a man you've known for 3decades? Like my people are wont to say..ti ko ba si idi ni, obirin ki je kumolu...there's a reason for all dis. The said unknown man was foist on all Nigerians by you and the kitchen cabinet. You should have allowed Nigerians to get to decide if they wanted an unknown man...the wash wash of image laundering was done.....and we're all left to live with that.....if by some miracle we are now allowed to vote(without being muscled, and votes actually counted, not iwurized)...do u think that he will smell ASO ROCK again?

We need all hands on deck to move our nation Nigeria forward...the country is now more like a banana republic...lawless. Even the chief law enforcement officer is no better than an agbero. We're all despondent...who will bell the cat?
What you should concentrate your efforts on if u really love and like Nigeria is to pray for the country's deliverance from the leprosied hands in PDP...recalibrate that party if u're a member.
Help to talk to your friends in both the upper and lower houses to do their job....Talk and implement real reforms...like electoral reforms. See that the bill to allow Nigerians in diaspora to vote goes through and is in place.
Above all, respond properly and clearly to all allegations made against u. U can afford to get a battery of lawyers to do so on ur behalf.


You're a very intelligent and articulate man. Put that which u have to good use. I wish u all the best in all ur endeavors.

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 # 6 | 17.10.2009 13:38


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What you should concentrate your efforts on if u really love and like Nigeria is to pray for the country's deliverance from the leprosied hands in PDP...recalibrate that party if u're a member.
Help to talk to your friends in both the upper and lower houses to do their job....Talk and implement real reforms...like electoral reforms. See that the bill to allow Nigerians in diaspora to vote goes through and is in place.
Above all, respond properly and clearly to all allegations made against u. U can afford to get a battery of lawyers to do so on ur behalf.


You're a very intelligent and articulate man. Put that which u have to good use. I wish u all the best in all ur endeavors.



Your assertion that all he can do is to pray, is the lazy approach that has brought Nigeria and Africa to where we are. God has given us all we need to stand, and we are also free to fall. It is only when we have DONE what we are able to do that God will do what we are UNABLE to do. But praying over what God has given us power to do is simply laziness and the bible book of proverb advised lazy people to learn from the ant. Look at Asian countries that are either animists or pagans or invariably practicing religions that Christians and Muslims consider abominations are they not progressing in geometric progression because of the works of their hands?

I disagree with you. What he needs to do is precisely what he is doing, he should challenge evil or wrongdoing. As Edmunk Burke said, the only thing, the absolute only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing. El Rufai is on the right track by challenging Yar'adua and you emj may pray (which is also not a bad thing) but remember that the bible says in Philipians 4:13 'I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me'. The key word is DO. What have we DONE to challenge evil/bad rulers? What has EMJ done to challenge evil and bad rulers? If we can not do anything other than pray, then let us leave people like El Rufai who are doing something, they may just be the answer to the prayers of people who are praying.

If Nigerians had challenged previous bad rulers Nigeria would not be what she is today. We always take the lazy way out and pray over things that God has given us power to change, forgetting that principles are for daily living while prayers are for thanking God and then asking him for His intervention over things of which we have no control.

Also, while he was in office, El Rufai has always been this way. Did he not challenge those who took bribe and even named names! Did he not fight the legislature over their idleness? He has always been an outspoken person.

Even more importantly he HAS been responding to the allegations against him. Has the president and those around him like James Ibori, David Edevbie and Michael Aondoakaa been doing the same? Let us be objective of this man and what he has to say of Nigeria.

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 # 7 | 17.10.2009 13:43


=Harmonious;396650>Your assertion that all he can do is to pray, is the lazy approach that has brought Nigeria and Africa to where we are. God has given us all we need to stand, and we are also free to fall. It is only when we have DONE what we are able to do that God will do what we are UNABLE to do. But praying over what God has given us power to do is simply laziness and the bible book of proverb advised lazy people to learn from the ant. Look at Asian countries that are either animists or pagans or invariably practicing religions that Christians and Muslims consider abominations are they not progressing in geometric progression because of the works of their hands?

I disagree with you. What he needs to do is precisely what he is doing, he should challenge evil or wrongdoing. As Edmunk Burke said, the only thing the absolute only thing necessary for the triumph of eveil is for good men to do nothing. El Rufai is on the right track by challenging Yar'adua and you emj may pray (which is also not a bad thing) but remember that prayer Philipians 4:13 'I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me'. The key word is DO.

If Nigerians had challenged previous bad rulers Nigeria would not be what she is today. We always take the lazy way out and pray over things that God has given us power to change, forgetting that principles are for daily living while prayers are for thanking God and then asking him for His intervention over things of which we have no control.



I suggest u go back and read me properly....i said pray for deliverance,yes amongst all other things that is needed...i believe that i dont need to repeat myself....go back and get the full gist from my post....and quit being mischievous.


PS>>>...and btw, he has no moral right to challenge Yardy cos he helped install him...wat leg does he want to stand on? We've heard his story and regrets.

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 # 8 | 17.10.2009 13:45


Obasanjo promised us power within six months, we did not get it and still don't have it. Obasanjo cavorted with criminals, people's wives and convicts, we did not hear you complain when Chris Uba was kidnapping a governor and Obasanjo allowed him a battalion of mobile policemen. We did not hear you complain about lack of due process, when your paddy Nuhu hijacked a whole house of assembly pending when they were ready to impeach their governor. We did not hear you complain, when Obasanjo was squeezing government contractors to donate to his private causes. We did not hear you complain about Adedibu when he was publicly advocating for the sharing of security votes in Oyo state. Obasanjo promised us free and fair elections, by your admission, you were part of the process of ensuring a pre-determined objective that was the product of anything but free and fair elections. Infact, we did not hear you complain when you and Ibori were working towards enthroning Yar'Adua in office. When did you know that Ibori was a crook? You claimed somewhere earlier that you opposed the third term, it is a suprise that your protest was a whisper, abi na whimper sef because we no hear you, when you were in office and now that you are out of office, your voice come loud pass loudspeaker. Haba short man devil!

Mallam El rufai, the truth of the matter is that your disappointment with Yar'Adua is personal and is not on behalf of Nigerians. It is not because you are disappointed that he did not continue the policies of the Otta brigade. It is because you expected that you were going to be part of the continued despoilation of the land but the Katsina boys outsmarted you. It is not because you did not do your best as best as you can when you were there. It is not because the power did not go to your head and you saw yourself as a Django in a western movie. It is because suddenly Nigeria is no longer safe for you while out of power. Mallam, welcome to our world. This is how it is for 99.5% of Nigerians. You may have lost sight of that having spent a continuous 9 years in the villa flying high and playing footsie with the fortunes of the people. Now is reality check time. Its the time to harvest the wind.




Mallam Gwobe,

Thank you jare for the above. In fact anyone who wants a patriotic reading/evaluation of the desperate tirade of Mr. El-Rufai should read those two paragraphs of yours. It sums up the source of the curious little irritation that the former minister has become. He is a master whiner who is also a coward and a fugitive to boot. He doesn't even have the balls to face the consequences of his many evils. Here is a man who presided over (and probably benefitted from) one of the most scandalous sales of public assets in Nigerian history: the sale of NITEL to a shady, incompetent set of fronts, a deal which cost the Nigerian people N40 Billion and the relative solvency of the national career.

Here is a man who spent his tenure as FCT minister presiding over the most blatant land and asset sharing bonanza in Nigerian history (the monetization scam in which OBJ, his friends, and the PDP oligarchy sold choice government properties to themselves in Abuja) and who, for good measure, shared choice FCT lands to his family and friends. This same man has the gall to pontificate about corruption and incompetence. Only in Nigeria!


El-Rufai is complaining that Yar'Adua embraces corrupt folks, but he forgets to add that in that respect (as well as many others) Yar'Adua is merely being an excellent student of the beast from Otta. OBJ perfected the political game of selectively embracing some crooks (friendly ones like El-Rufai, Bode George, Andy Uba, Tony Anenih, Peter Odili, James Ibori, etc) while making a show of intolerance against (not so friendly) others.

For starters, perhaps El-Rufai can tell us how he came about the money to fund the multi-million dollar NEXT newspaper and media empire, perhaps the most capitalized media organization in Africa.

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 # 9 | 17.10.2009 14:15


=emj;396654>I suggest u go back and read me properly....i said pray for deliverance,yes amongst all other things that is needed...i believe that i dont need to repeat myself....go back and get the full gist from my post....and quit being mischievous.


PS>>>...and btw, he has no moral right to challenge Yardy cos he helped install him...wat leg does he want to stand on? We've heard his story and regrets.



But this is what you said Emj

'What you should concentrate your efforts on if u really love and like Nigeria is to pray for the country's deliverance from the leprosied hands in PDP...recalibrate that party if u're a member.'

How have I misrepresented you or been mischievous?

From the above it is quite clear that what you mean is that El'rufai should direct his efforts at praying for Nigeria's deliverance rather than what he is currently doing. It is clear enough.

Nigeria's deliverance from the PDP is going to come from what Nigerians do. And I still maintain that your assertion that all he can do is to pray, is the lazy approach that has brought Nigeria and Africa to where we are. God has given us all we need to stand, and we are also free to fall. It is only when we have DONE what we are able to do that God will do what we are UNABLE to do. But praying over what God has given us power to do is simply laziness and the bible book of proverbs advised lazy people to learn from the ant. Look at Asian countries that are either animists or pagans or invariably practicing religions that Christians and Muslims consider abominations are they not progressing in geometric progression because of the works of their hands?

If I have misquoted you or if what you meant by saying 'What you should concentrate your efforts on if u really love and like Nigeria is to pray for the country's deliverance from the leprosied hands in PDP...recalibrate that party if u're a member.' does not mean that he should pray for Nigeria's deliverance from PDP, then please explain what you mean so that others and I will not be 'mischievous' and mistinterprete your words.

And BTW, saying that he has no moral right to challenge Yar'adua because he helped Obasanjo instal him is like saying that you have no right to challenge your child because you gave birth to him. In actual fact, it is those who have had a hand in the creation of a thing that have the greatest moral right to challenge its being.

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 # 10 | 17.10.2009 14:21

ACT1 SCENE1:

=Harmonious;396650>Your assertion that all he can do is to pray, is the lazy approach that has brought Nigeria and Africa to where we are..


ACT1 SCENE2:

=Harmonious;396662>But this is what you said Emj..



Bia Nna..

She dey do am as she see am fit.

Yu sef do ya own as yu see am fit.

'Do ya own, Do my own', Allah nor go ves.

Abi nor be so dem tohk am? If na crush yu get for am, jus' tell am. :p

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