Thursday17May2012

Homosexuality And The Nigerian Society

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Until sometimes in late 2003 right after my youth service in Port Harcourt, the LGBT (Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, and Transgender/Transsexual) or the so called alternative lifestyle is something I only hear about in passing comments, whispers from the dark closets of society.  Until this new guy joined our company, I forgot dude’s name but I remember he’s an Ekpeye guy from Rivers State. I just couldn’t figure why this guy in my office walked, talked or stare the way he does, until someone unintentionally ‘outed’ him to the entire office one afternoon after lunch (I guess it was the okasi soup!). I still remember how from that afternoon everything changed for my Ekpeye guy; we all just thought he was weird before, now we all mostly avoided him totally. In hindsight, I thought we could have been more tolerant and accommodating, but in my defence I haven’t met a gay person until then! The whole LGBT worldview was strange to me, not to talk of very awkward. The mere thought of a man ramming it into another man’s behind, I found (and still find) not only disgusting, but also very outrageous! I ultimately spent 2 and half years in Port Harcourt before relocating to Lagos, and as it turned out, it was during those years that I came into the reality of homosexuality in Nigeria.

As I returned to Lagos, with my enhanced worldview on sexuality I realized homosexuality is more pervasive in Nigeria than I have ever thought or imagined (maybe more so in the creeks and oil platforms of the Niger Delta)! Since I now know some of the tell signs especially in men, the swaying walk with the hip swing, the girly talk with accompanying hand gestures, the piercing eye contact (oju t’on soro!), I was able to better ‘field-screen’ gays most often at first sight! But then with that came the realization that the more you see, the less you hear. Homosexuality still occupies the dark underbelly of the African society, seen but invisible to mainstream society, known but constrained to the dark closets where they supposedly belong.

 Despite our flare for western liberalism, Nigeria like the rest of Africa is still a very conservative society when it comes to sexuality. Prehistoric African culture may not necessarily include extensive knowledge about homosexuality but records suggest that homosexuality was present in Africa, possibly from the earliest European contact. The 'yan dauda’ (homosexual) and 'dan dauda’ (homosexual ‘wife’) in Hausa-land are known to either engage as male prostitutes and/or are procurers for female prostitutes. In some parts of the southwest in Yoruba-land there are historical accounts of men who behave effeminately, generally referred to as ‘gbowo’. These people were recounted to be mostly good orators, exemplary craftsmen, musicians, and poets.

The LGBT world is now buzzing following the recent unanimous passing (on or about January 15, 2009) by the House of Representatives of the outright ban on same-sex marriage in Nigeria. The bill “prohibits marriage between persons of same gender, solemnisation of same and other matters related therewith”. The European Union Parliament's committee on gay and lesbian rights is calling on the EU to suspend foreign aid to Nigeria following this latest move to ban same-sex marriage. They described the new bill as redundant and catering to "aggressive homophobia preached" by Christian and Muslim religious leaders, as well as the Nigerian news media. Michael Cashman, president of the Intergroup on Gay and Lesbian Rights, stated a couple of weeks ago that the passing of the law in Nigeria will only raise hatred against gay, lesbian and transgender citizens. "I do not understand how legislators in such a big and diverse country can be so cruel and indifferent to millions of their own people who are already such a marginalised and oppressed minority in their country," he added.

Unlike the European advocates for homosexuality, I consider this recently passed bill by the Nigerian House of Representatives not an oppression of the sexual minority but an affirmation of majority values, democracy in action if you ask me. Every society must find a way to acknowledge and positively engage its deviants, but to affirm every deviant behavior in society is to destroy society itself. This is the social struggle western societies are currently embroiled in, and even they are still searching for answers. 

A few nights ago as I was writing this article, my wife wanted to read through and before long we were debating the age-long homosexuality question: nature or nurture? Are people born with LGBT traits or are they acquired as a consequence of environment? Of course no one knows for sure. Personally, I’m inclined to believe that nobody was born gay but I cannot discount seemingly credible accounts of people who manifested such traits at very early ages. Some have argued that a good Creator who opposes homosexuality cannot create people with homosexual genes, but how do you explain babies born with cerebral palsy, or leukaemia, or conjoined twins? I guess all I’m trying to say is there’s a lot we don’t know or understand, but as we continue in the quest, we must acknowledge those that are different but not be too hasty (as in some Western societies) to sacrifice society’s collective majority values on the altar of minority accommodation.

Arguably the most visible face of homosexuality in Nigeria in recent times is Rowland Jide Macaulay, Pastor of the House Of Rainbow MCC, Lagos Nigeria. When I first heard about this guy and his church on the internet a couple of years ago, my first thought considering that Nigeria is such a homophobic country was that, what is this guy trying to proof! No surprises to learn (in my recent visit to his blog) that his church no longer meets regularly and he had himself fled to the UK. While I do not share his worldview on alternative lifestyle, I agree partly with Rowland that “The simple and radical inclusive message of the bible calls for all of us to love our neighbours as ourselves. Most of the Christian churches in Nigeria may have forgotten this message and seem to be preaching hatred and condemnation towards homosexuals”.

The test for the Nigerian society, as it is for every society is in how well it engages those outside its mainstream. It is also in the interest of those outside society’s mainstream to understand that, right or wrong, societal cultural evolution takes time and not force change. The homophobic mainstream can disapprove of homosexuality without resorting to hate and verbal or physical attacks. The latest bill as everyone knows, will not spell the end of homosexuality in Nigeria, but it is our society’s way of saying, “we just are not comfortable with this yet”.



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posted on 02-04-2009, 04:40:49 AM
Iyke
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Unlike the European advocates for homosexuality, I consider this recently passed bill by the Nigerian House of Representatives not an oppression of the sexual minority but an affirmation of majority values, democracy in action if you ask me

the above quotation tends to obscure the main issue. it is not the question of majority values. if it is so, then it may amount to the tyranny of the majority. the actual issue is whether homosexuality is a proper way of life. a good in itself. in my own opinion it is not, democracy is not a means for the majority to stiffle the minority rather an affirmation of what is proper and voicing out ways of maintaining that. democracy does not create values rather democracy maintains values. therefore it is proper that the house outlawed it but it shouldnt be seen as a case of majority carrying the vote. it could still be wrong even if majority approves it. however tolerance with the hope that homosexuals are erring and will change is the way. not outright hostility.

posted on 02-04-2009, 05:58:00 AM
BOE
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but records suggest that homosexuality was present in Africa, possibly from the earliest European contact. The 'yan dauda (homosexual) and 'dan dauda (homosexual wife) in Hausa-land are known to either engage as male prostitutes and/or are procurers for female prostitutes. In some parts of the southwest in Yoruba-land there are historical accounts of men who behave effeminately, generally referred to as gbowo. These people were recounted to be mostly good orators, exemplary craftsmen, musicians, and poets.
Incredible analysis! Are you saying Europeans brought gay to Africa? Should a tolerant society tolerate intolerance? By that, some people have turned Africa into an intolerant society that will destroys itself. Religious fears (thanks to incomplete education) led to great brutality as fear always does. This discrimination against gays and lesbians will be back to hurt future Africans, and those are words for history. Protection from discrimination based on gender, religion, race, sexual orientation is basic and until laws protect all, a state of war in the primordial sense will always exist in awkward Nigeria.

posted on 02-04-2009, 06:00:28 AM
BOE
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As I commented, the google ad above updated to a Gay & Lesbian one. Awesome code or what!

posted on 02-04-2009, 06:54:33 AM
Emenanjo
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I wonder how the world will look like if we all become gay or lesbians! How will society reproduce itself?

I think it was in Dec, 2005 that the Labour govt passed the law legalising same sex marriage in the UK and a year later, Dec, 2006, more 15,000 couples have been wedded in the Registries. If we go by that figure, it means that by Dec, 2008, about 45,000 of such marriages have been registered in the UK, conservatively.

So, we can see that the figure is probably rising. The same govt has approved that these people, who deliberately said they are not going to sleep with the opposite sex, are free to adopt children. They don't want children of their own, but can adopt children born by humans like them! That is funny!

There is no doubt that there are a lot of these people in Nigeria. Some big shots are involved in it, which they do in absolute secrecy. That they do it in secret shows that they know that it is an unnatural act. We should, for the sake of humanity, speak against these acts and seek to counsel those who are involved in it, that is, if they willing to come forward. Violence against them in Nigeria should be ruled out.

From what one has gathered in the UK, these behaviour patterns are mostly learned and rarely genetical. It is a learned behaviour pattern. The rate of divorce in this clime too might be another contributory factor. Most males and females distrust marriage. Their hearts have been broken by trusted ones thus they sought solace and bliss else where.

I pray always that God will descend one day; never to re-ascend. The advanced clime may be technologically up there, but the world is morally going down, big time!

posted on 02-04-2009, 08:11:12 AM
Rhemaman
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Interesting article i must say.

Its very sad we that we live in an age where right is called wrong, black is called white, and where depravity and immorality has been elevated to godlike heights. An age where there are no absolutes, where "if it feels good then its ok" is allowed to reign, an age where people have been cowed or afraid to stand up and be counted for being on the right side.

Yes the right side, because homosexuality is the wrong side, no matter what some people say. No one is born a homosexual, its a choice, short and simple. There are no genes for homosexuality no matter the nonsense some scientist are trying to peddle to that effect.

It doesn't matter whether you believe in God or not, because even nature teaches us that there is always two sides to every living thing.

I've long made up mind not to be politically correct about homosexuality. Its wrong, finish.

For that fake gay pastor in Nigeria (like Gene Robinson of USA), and his likes/supporters, know that even though Jesus loved all men, sinners or non sinners, he NEVER condoned their sins, which is why he told the woman caught in adultery to go and sin more. The so called gay Christians are not interested in "not sinning anymore", they actually want to continue in their sin, and make us believe its no sin. How sad!

All said and done, there should be no violence against gay people, but at the same time, we MUST refuse to accept that "gayness" is ok. Its not!

posted on 02-04-2009, 09:47:38 AM
S/hewhoisdifferent
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Some of the comments are so predictable. First of all DO NOT FEAR all the world has never been nor will it ever be populated by a 100% LGBTI :clapopulation. Now I hope that will allay your fears about population. LGBTI population is generally set at about 10% of the community, country, continent, world population so there is room for all of us to exist side by side.

Secondly why are people so concerned about who sleeps with whom when it comes to gays and lesbians yet they are prepared to sleep with their house girls, other peoples wives and husbands, even their friends wives and husbands, school girls, and oh yes children. Child sexual abuse is rampant in Nigeria as elsewhere in the world but I near no outcry against that or any of the above. So much for Nigeria's moral authority. Anal sex disgusts you? Tell me how many of you men have anal sex with your wives in secret? Why do you do this? Do you imagine that a mens anus is different to your wives? Wives why do you put up with anal sex from your husbands? hmmm . We could go on now and no doubt there will be those shouting fire and brimstone and sending Gods wrath down to punish the "deviants" I say let he or she who is not deviant throw the first stone and remember, Christianity and Islam were brought by foreigners to this hear continent - let us return and worship our own Gods who were far more willing to be inclusive!ray:

posted on 02-04-2009, 10:45:09 AM
BOE
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the Labour govt passed the law legalising same sex marriage in the UK
The dark side of christian history where victims were rubbed with lard or grease and slowly roasted alive begged a philosophical question in the 1700s. Was christianity worse than canibalism? A least the canibals killed their victims before eating them. Gay or lesbians are getting married while according to you divorce rate among normal people has risen. Is that good or bad? An open mind with a degree of tolerance is a good way forward.

posted on 02-04-2009, 10:46:56 AM
Blooming_i
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I wonder how the world will look like if we all become gay or lesbians! How will society reproduce itself?


I asked the same question on another thread sometime ago. What happens to the instruction given by the creator to go and multiply?

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The same govt has approved that these people, who deliberately said they are not going to sleep with the opposite sex, are free to adopt children. They don't want children of their own, but can adopt children born by humans like them! That is funny!


I call the highlighted part speaking from both sides of the mouth by the govt.

posted on 02-04-2009, 10:53:20 AM
SUYA
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Decades ago we were forced to sit at the back of the bus because of the hue of our skin. So why cant we live and let live? As for the absurdity of Homosexuality being a European sin introduced to Africa one only needs to read The Washing of the Spears and realize that arguably Africas most famous warrior and poster boy for Masculinity one certain Chaka was GAY.


posted on 02-04-2009, 19:26:30 PM
Eleniyan
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You can see the author is even shaky in his own conviction. Conviction that is only anchored on tradition not reason or fairnessI feel for the author because he is in a quandary, he holds one view yet argued compellingly for the contra view. Perhaps it was inadvertent or a foggy thought process, his arguments for GAY marriage right TRUMP his argument, if any, for his position of Anti-Gay marriage.

And abeg o, lets not quick to pull the card of MAJORITY rule, like someone said above, pulling that card is tantamount to aiding majority tyranny.

Gay issue is very thorny; fairness has rendered me incapable of critiquing and encumbering these peoples lifestyle

posted on 02-04-2009, 19:44:38 PM
Eleniyan
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I wonder how the world will look like if we all become gay or lesbians! How will society reproduce itself?


Well guess what partner, we dont live in a hypothetical world. We live in a real one. With this particular issue, it is funny how people (even the well learned ones) tender argument based on what it could have been instead of what it is. Abeg jare!

It is unwise and quite unfair to speak categorically in a negative manner about these people when we dont even know how their shoes fit like. Have you asked yourself, how defiant could someone be to continue to weather perpetual persecution just to maintain a lifestyle he could have controlled to avoid that persecution?

posted on 02-04-2009, 23:41:45 PM
K_Station
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It is unwise and quite unfair to speak categorically in a negative manner about these people when we dont even know how their shoes fit like. Have you asked yourself, how defiant could someone be to continue to weather perpetual persecution just to maintain a lifestyle he could have controlled to avoid that persecution?


What exactly r u trying to say?

posted on 02-05-2009, 00:19:39 AM
K_Station
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Tell me how many of you men have anal sex with your wives in secret? Why do you do this? Do you imagine that a mens anus is different to your wives? Wives why do you put up with anal sex from your husbands?


I think you are totally confusing the issues here! First of all, anuses are made for shit and shit alone, either in man or in goat!!!

That being said, what a man and his wife do in their bedroom is NONYA (as in non'ya business)! She is his wife and he is her husband, their bodies belong to each other and I think your comparison/analogy is in bad faith.

posted on 02-05-2009, 01:17:10 AM
Ajede
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Nobody knows what makes a man to be sexually attracted to another man or a woman sexually attracted to another woman. And the claim that Africans, just because they are Africans, cannot be or are not naturally homosexual or bisexual is a delusion, since human nature is just human nature. What two adult do with each other is a private business and cannot be legislated against.

posted on 02-05-2009, 01:25:53 AM
Free Publius
Re: Homosexuality And The Nigerian Society
Folks,

The level of ignorance with which people speak on this issue is galling. Interestingly enough, all of the so-called latter-day puritans remain in awe of the ancient Greek civilization that brought us original-thinking pioneers and philosophers like Socrates, Aristotle, Plato, etc. Guess what folks? All of these men were flamboyantly GAY!!! Check out the arts and relic from that society. They worshipped the male body, especially the penis, to a near diety level! The entire society was bouyantly gay. Yet, today, we continue to herald that society for their dawning of the modern civilization.

If homosexuality was so evil, how did so much good come out of this community and other known homosexuals? And if the holier-than-thou communities today despise homosexuality so much, why do we cling for dear life to the fruits of these homosexuals?

I am not gay and do not even understand what it is like to be gay. However, I think all of the intolerance being displayed by the African communities (and some Western ones too) is an unfortunate manifestation of our own insecurities.

Oh, recently in the US, a fire-breathing evangelical pastor who had openly and repeatedly condemned homosexuals to eternal hell was discovered to have had a regular habit of patronizing homosexual prostitutes himself, over several years. And, this man was married with five kids. I guess he was curious about those evil people he spent all his Sundays condeming? May God have more mercy on his soul that he publicly declared on others.

Free Publius

posted on 02-05-2009, 02:22:32 AM
Akuluouno
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Nobody knows what makes a man to be sexually attracted to another man or a woman sexually attracted to another woman. And the claim that Africans, just because they are Africans, cannot be or are not naturally homosexual or bisexual is a delusion, since human nature is just human nature. What two adult do with each other is a private business and cannot be legislated against.


The Rt Hon Ajede, JJC,

I totally disagree with you. I do not think that you put enough thoughts into what you wrote How can you say that what two adults do with each other is a private business and cannot be legislated
Society and government has every right to know that.
Yes, if one goes historical, many African Kings including Chaka the Zulu and the Buganda of yore kept a lot of fine young men whom they had sex with in order to increase their "invincibility" which any way is better than offering them as human sacrifices like the old Obas of Benin etc, but society has since moved on.
Except the whole world wnts us to go back, then bring on killing of twins, saccrifice of albinos, dwarfs etc etc and all those
QUOTE:
atrocities
previously done in the name of culture.
I know that homosexuality has always been with us in Nigeria, justl like other vices including the taking of drugs, and paedophilia. Let us still leave them in the closet or discriminate against them as someone said for now hoping that it will soon pass away rather legislate them into being.

posted on 02-05-2009, 03:05:45 AM
Iamgod
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Personally, I pity gay folks in Nigeria cos of the 'stigma' and choking secrecy in which they are forced to live in. I do regard them as an oddity, although I put myself in no position to question their lifestyle. We all are accountible to God.

However, I'm more concerned with our Representatives. Has anyone noticed how quick Nigerian legislators are to pass bills which do no directly affect their thieving ways? Instead of them to 'unanimously' compel the presidency to do its work and sign electoral act, Foi bill and others. They are busy passing bills to ensure who sticks what in where.

Idiots!!!!

posted on 02-05-2009, 04:16:30 AM
S/hewhoisdifferent
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Oh really what man and a woman do is their business? So why is it your business what a man and a man do? Anyway that is not my point. My point is heterosexual people engage in anal sex so all this display of disgust is just a pretense.
What is sad here are all the myths and misinformation around LGBT people. For example many are married so the issue of children does not come into the equation. So stop assuming there are no LGBT people around you. In fact in Nigeria most are married, do you know what your wife or husband are doing with that special friend?

Secondly even if not married people can still have children - I mean heterosexual people have children outside marriage dont they - with young girls, house girls even other peoples spouses!

Thirdly for the man who says he can pick out gay men that is interesting as there is something called "Gaydar" ie LGBT people know each other and can pick each other out from a mile. I leave the rest to you all.

I note that no one has responded to the point I made about the general immorality of Nigerians - Consensual sex between two adults is not immoral, sex with children house girls other peoples spouses is!

posted on 02-05-2009, 04:18:50 AM
S/hewhoisdifferent
Re: Homosexuality And The Nigerian Society
And please stop comparing pedophilia ie rape of children with sex between consenting adults! There is a stark difference so vast that your argument is completely lost.

posted on 02-05-2009, 04:27:36 AM
Tiger
Re: Homosexuality And The Nigerian Society
QUOTE:
I wonder how the world will look like if we all become gay or lesbians! How will society reproduce itself?

I think it was in Dec, 2005 that the Labour govt passed the law legalising same sex marriage in the UK and a year later, Dec, 2006, more 15,000 couples have been wedded in the Registries. If we go by that figure, it means that by Dec, 2008, about 45,000 of such marriages have been registered in the UK, conservatively.

So, we can see that the figure is probably rising. The same govt has approved that these people, who deliberately said they are not going to sleep with the opposite sex, are free to adopt children. They don't want children of their own, but can adopt children born by humans like them! That is funny!

There is no doubt that there are a lot of these people in Nigeria. Some big shots are involved in it, which they do in absolute secrecy. That they do it in secret shows that they know that it is an unnatural act. We should, for the sake of humanity, speak against these acts and seek to counsel those who are involved in it, that is, if they willing to come forward. Violence against them in Nigeria should be ruled out.

From what one has gathered in the UK, these behaviour patterns are mostly learned and rarely genetical. It is a learned behaviour pattern. The rate of divorce in this clime too might be another contributory factor. Most males and females distrust marriage. Their hearts have been broken by trusted ones thus they sought solace and bliss else where.

I pray always that God will descend one day; never to re-ascend. The advanced clime may be technologically up there, but the world is morally going down, big time!



Once again, I fully agree with you, all the way! It is a really odd world, indeed.

posted on 02-05-2009, 11:26:52 AM
S. Njokede
Re: Homosexuality And The Nigerian Society
Europeans are of the mindset that our female genital mutilation practice is nonsensical and as a result, we should condemn and reject it. And we, Africans, are saying that their homosexual culture is as misnomer as it is hedonistic, and as a result, Africans do not want to have anything to do with it. So where exactly is the problem? They do not like our system of circumcising female and we do not like their homosexual madness. Why are they forcing us to embrace their ills, when we are not superimposing upon them to accept ours? I thought that they pride themselves of being civilised?

Homosexuality is a personal choice it is like choosing to rob a bank. Adolf Hitler once contemplated among other things, the deportation of homosexuals to Madagascar as a punishment. Whether he is right, is matter of another debate. Those with nuisance behaviour should bear the brunt of stigma that their actions stir up.

During the Middle Ages, there was the practice of witchcraft via which many were innocently killed. But there came a time when the practice was outlawed by Europeans with a legislation that anyone who witch-hunted the other to death has committed murder, and shall be put to death, that brought the killing in the name of witchcraft to an end. If Europeans are serious to end homosexuality, a single legislation like the witchcraft one will do, to stop the pervasive act of sodomy.

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posted on 02-05-2009, 12:05:59 PM
Bharlow
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Homosexuality is a misnomer. It is quite irritating, not even animals' nature. It is absolute madness. God created us male and female for a purpose while are we trying to change this good intention of God. Such a thing can only be found among imps not humans. Read Romans 1vs26-27

posted on 02-05-2009, 13:03:24 PM
Ada
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Anal sex the facts :-


"...This month’s myth is heterosexuals do not participate in penile-anal intercourse. In fact, most people believe that only homosexual men have penile-anal intercourse, and they believe that all homosexual men have penile-anal intercourse, and we will deal with that some other month. This month we’re going to deal with the idea that in fact heterosexuals do not have penile-anal intercourse. Now the historical and ethnographic record – the ethnographic record is what happens in other cultures, and the historical record is of course history – disputes this idea very much – that heterosexual anal intercourse is rare or that it is limited to any one culture. There are Greek ceramics, Roman oil lamps, ancient Peruvian chica pots and Lambayequen pottery, East Indian temple sculptures and miniature paintings, Persian paintings, Chinese and Japanese paintings and prints, African carvings and metal sculptures, French paintings and illustrations, Austrian and German bronzes and porcelains – and this is just to name a few things that show us heterosexuals having penile-anal intercourse. So we know that people have been doing it all over the world, and we know that they’ve been doing it for a very long time because some of these sculptures and paintings go back through centuries, and some of them even before the Christian era. Modern research also supports the view that many heterosexuals have participated in penile-anal intercourse at least one time..."

rest of article http://loveandhealth.worldgroups.com/Article.cfm?Topic=2&SubTopic=18&Article=193


"Kinsey data collected between 1938-1963 found that 9 percent of non-married males and 28 percent of non-married females had engaged in anal sex at least once. Among married subjects, the numbers were much lower--around 11 percent for both men and women.

In 1974, Playboy magazine published a huge survey of over 2000 people. Depending on the age of the respondent, between 14 and 25 percent of people said they had tried anal sex at least once.

A more recent study, conducted in 1990 at the Kinsey Institute, found that 27 percent of male and 24 percent of female college students had anal sex at least once.

One researcher, who surveyed one group of people in the 1970s then another in the late 1980s, offers a good point of comparison. In the first survey, 25 percent of women had anal sex and 8 percent reported engaging in it regularly. In the second, 72 percent had anal sex, and 23 percent reported engaging in it regularly.
A 1991 survey of 3200 men (in a nationally representative sample) found that 20 percent of men age 20 to 39 had engaged in anal sex at least once. Fifty percent of the men who had tried it had only tried it once. Interestingly, in this more contemporary study, more older men reported having had anal sex than younger men (27 percent of men age 35 to 39 versus 13 percent of men age 20 to 24).

The most recent U.S. data from a national representative sample comes from the 2002 National Survey of Family Growth (NSFG), which was conducted on over 12,000 men and women aged 15 to 44. Results show that 34 percent of men and 30 percent of women reported engaging in anal sex at least once.

In a 1996 survey of Swedish women aged 18 to 74, about 20 percent of women overall reported having engaged in anal sex--specifically, 28 percent of 25 to 34 year-olds and 2 percent of 66 to 74 year-olds.
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"..About a third of heterosexual couples in Britain are thought to use anal sex as an occasional method of sexual expression, with about 10% using it as a preferred or regular method.2 Perhaps two thirds of gay men practise anal sex as a regular part of their sexual repertoire. This means that, in absolute numbers, there are more heterosexuals having anal sex than there are gay men. There are little published data on how many heterosexual men would like their anus to be sexually stimulated in a heterosexual relationship. Anecdotally, it is a substantial number. What data we do have almost all relate to penetrative sexual acts, and the superficial contact of the anal ring with fingers or the tongue is even less well documented but may be assumed to be a common sexual activity for men of all sexual orientations..."

http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=1114912


Given that engagement in anal sex seems to be fairly consistant across the sexual spectrum and prevelant within both genders, One cannot in all seriousness continue to propagate the myth that anal sex is a "gay thing". Likewise one cannot continue to use it as a substantive tool to discriminate against homosexuals. Given the studies and statistics, one must ask ones self to what is it that am really objecting ?and more importantly why do I feel I have the right to pass judgment on something that has absolutely no reference to me in any shape or form ? After all if intimacy between two people is consensual and is not being forced on me.. then why is it that I mind so much ?
personally I am more concerned by the Iraq, poverty and global warming, than what goes on behind someone elses closed doors.

posted on 02-05-2009, 14:04:04 PM
Eleniyan
Re: Homosexuality And The Nigerian Society
QUOTE:
Europeans are of the mindset that our female genital mutilation practice is nonsensical and as a result, we should condemn and reject it. And we, Africans, are saying that their homosexual culture is as misnomer as it is hedonistic, and as a result, Africans do not want to have anything to do with it. So where exactly is the problem? They do not like our system of circumcising female and we do not like their homosexual madness. Why are they forcing us to embrace their ills, when we are not superimposing upon them to accept ours? I thought that they pride themselves of being civilised?

Homosexuality is a personal choice it is like choosing to rob a bank. Adolf Hitler once contemplated among other things, the deportation of homosexuals to Madagascar as a punishment. Whether he is right, is matter of another debate. Those with nuisance behaviour should bear the brunt of stigma that their actions stir up.

During the Middle Ages, there was the practice of witchcraft via which many were innocently killed. But there came a time when the practice was outlawed by Europeans with a legislation that anyone who witch-hunted the other to death has committed murder, and shall be put to death, that brought the killing in the name of witchcraft to an end. If Europeans are serious to end homosexuality, a single legislation like the witchcraft one will do, to stop the pervasive act of sodomy.

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Are you by chance related to SEAN HANNITY or a fan of SEAN HANNITY? You reason just like him. You are a JJC on this board, but you have not arrived cerebrally.

How are Europeans imposing homosexuality on us? So homosexuality is demographical and geographical?...It is not a universal thing? I wanna respond to the rest of your views but I dont even know how to beginYou really do need to read and reread it again.

Comparing witchcraft to homosexuality?????...like what? Who can honestly and intelligently do this and pass a giggle test.

Some people sha!

posted on 02-06-2009, 12:45:49 PM
WallaceBobo
Re: Homosexuality And The Nigerian Society
My take on homosexuality is that it is a genetic aberration. The fact that it is common certainly does not make it less of an aberration. The fact that some animals show homosexual behavior makes no difference either. Infanticide and cannibalism are also common among animals.
Also, it hardly matters whether the practice is natural or nurtured. Mental illness can be genetic but can be caused by environmental factors. Either way, it doesn't make mentally ill people normal . The fact that its between two consenting adults doesn't make it normal either. Consenting adults do a lot of abnormal things.

But just because I think homosexuality is abnormal doesn't mean I think it must outlawed, or that gays should be persecuted in some way or the other. People shouldn't be harrased for been abnormal. Sicklers are abnormal, but are helped not harassed. So also dyslexics, and autistic persons. There are even people who beat each other up for fun (masochists?), no one would pretend that's normal but the rational thing would be to leave them be so long as partakers are all consenting adults.
But it would look a bit weird if masochists all of a sudden become a political force and decided they should have legal rights encouraging them to manifest their lifestyle. This is my problem with the gay movement. Why should you push your lifestyle in my face??

posted on 02-06-2009, 17:54:09 PM
Ispy
Re: Homosexuality And The Nigerian Society
QUOTE:
Anal sex the facts :-


\"...This month’s myth is heterosexuals do not participate in penile-anal intercourse. In fact, most people believe that only homosexual men have penile-anal intercourse, and they believe that all homosexual men have penile-anal intercourse, and we will deal with that some other month. This month we’re going to deal with the idea that in fact heterosexuals do not have penile-anal intercourse. Now the historical and ethnographic record – the ethnographic record is what happens in other cultures, and the historical record is of course history – disputes this idea very much – that heterosexual anal intercourse is rare or that it is limited to any one culture. There are Greek ceramics, Roman oil lamps, ancient Peruvian chica pots and Lambayequen pottery, East Indian temple sculptures and miniature paintings, Persian paintings, Chinese and Japanese paintings and prints, African carvings and metal sculptures, French paintings and illustrations, Austrian and German bronzes and porcelains – and this is just to name a few things that show us heterosexuals having penile-anal intercourse. So we know that people have been doing it all over the world, and we know that they’ve been doing it for a very long time because some of these sculptures and paintings go back through centuries, and some of them even before the Christian era. Modern research also supports the view that many heterosexuals have participated in penile-anal intercourse at least one time...\"

rest of article http://loveandhealth.worldgroups.com/Article.cfm?Topic=2&SubTopic=18&Article=193


\"Kinsey data collected between 1938-1963 found that 9 percent of non-married males and 28 percent of non-married females had engaged in anal sex at least once. Among married subjects, the numbers were much lower--around 11 percent for both men and women.

In 1974, Playboy magazine published a huge survey of over 2000 people. Depending on the age of the respondent, between 14 and 25 percent of people said they had tried anal sex at least once.

A more recent study, conducted in 1990 at the Kinsey Institute, found that 27 percent of male and 24 percent of female college students had anal sex at least once.

One researcher, who surveyed one group of people in the 1970s then another in the late 1980s, offers a good point of comparison. In the first survey, 25 percent of women had anal sex and 8 percent reported engaging in it regularly. In the second, 72 percent had anal sex, and 23 percent reported engaging in it regularly.
A 1991 survey of 3200 men (in a nationally representative sample) found that 20 percent of men age 20 to 39 had engaged in anal sex at least once. Fifty percent of the men who had tried it had only tried it once. Interestingly, in this more contemporary study, more older men reported having had anal sex than younger men (27 percent of men age 35 to 39 versus 13 percent of men age 20 to 24).

The most recent U.S. data from a national representative sample comes from the 2002 National Survey of Family Growth (NSFG), which was conducted on over 12,000 men and women aged 15 to 44. Results show that 34 percent of men and 30 percent of women reported engaging in anal sex at least once.

In a 1996 survey of Swedish women aged 18 to 74, about 20 percent of women overall reported having engaged in anal sex--specifically, 28 percent of 25 to 34 year-olds and 2 percent of 66 to 74 year-olds.
Sources:

Billy, J.O., Grady, W.R., Klepinger, D.H. \"The Sexual Behavior of Men in the United States\" Family Planning Perspectives Vol. 25. Issue 2 (1993): 52 -60.
Bolling, D.R. “Prevalence, Goals and Complications of Heterosexual Anal Intercourse in a Gynecologic Population. Journal of Reproductive Medicine Volume 19 (1977): 120-124.
Bolling, D. “Heterosexual Anal Intercourse: A Common Entity, Perceived Rarity, Neglected Patients and Ostrich Syndrome.” Paper presented at the 1987 Kinsey Institute Conference, AIDS and sex: An integrated biomedical and biobehavioral approach, Bloomington, IN, December 5-8, 1987.
Fugl-Meyer, K.S., Oberg, K., Lundberg,P.O., et al. \"On Orgasm, Sexual Techniques, and Erotic Perceptions in 18- to 74-Year-Old Swedish Women\" Journal of Sexual Medicine Volume 3, No. 1, (2006):56-68.
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Voeller, B. “AIDS and Heterosexual Anal Intercourse.” Archives of Sexual Behavior Volume 20. Issue 3 (1991): 233-276.
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\"..About a third of heterosexual couples in Britain are thought to use anal sex as an occasional method of sexual expression, with about 10% using it as a preferred or regular method.2 Perhaps two thirds of gay men practise anal sex as a regular part of their sexual repertoire. This means that, in absolute numbers, there are more heterosexuals having anal sex than there are gay men. There are little published data on how many heterosexual men would like their anus to be sexually stimulated in a heterosexual relationship. Anecdotally, it is a substantial number. What data we do have almost all relate to penetrative sexual acts, and the superficial contact of the anal ring with fingers or the tongue is even less well documented but may be assumed to be a common sexual activity for men of all sexual orientations...\"

http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=1114912


Given that engagement in anal sex seems to be fairly consistant across the sexual spectrum and prevelant within both genders, One cannot in all seriousness continue to propagate the myth that anal sex is a \"gay thing\". Likewise one cannot continue to use it as a substantive tool to discriminate against homosexuals. Given the studies and statistics, one must ask ones self to what is it that am really objecting ?and more importantly why do I feel I have the right to pass judgment on something that has absolutely no reference to me in any shape or form ? After all if intimacy between two people is consensual and is not being forced on me.. then why is it that I mind so much ?
personally I am more concerned by the Iraq, poverty and global warming, than what goes on behind someone elses closed doors.


Why the emphasis on anal sex? Homosexuality is not limited to men you know?

Are you also trying to imply that the pleasure of anal sex is why men become gay?

Are you saying that an heterosexual couple who engage in anal sex and enjoy it would because of that necessarily have anal sex with people of the same sex just because they enjoy anal sex? i. e because i have anal sex with my girlfriend and enjoy it does not mean i would be willing to have it with a man.


Personally in as much as i believe some form of genetic make up influences people to become gay, i however also believe peer pressure, mans innate desire to experiment and developmental problems such as a man growing up under an excessively aggressive mother e.t.c may have also contributed to people becoming gay. This however is my personal opinion.

Personally also, i have realised its one thing to have an intellectual view on issues and publicly express this as many have done on this forum only to change that view when that same issue or situation 'comes home to roost' or moves closer to home. Basically, when i find myself in a position of uncertainty in taking a categorical stand on issues, the way i like to fully and honestly gauge my feelings towards that issue is to imagine someone close or dear to me being in that particular situation for example i would look at my young daughter or son and imagine how i would feel later when he or she in future suddenly come to tell me they are in a same sex relationship and that i probably would not have a grandchild? Yes i know about artificial insemination and all that but quite frankly i do not even like the thought and i sincerely hope it never comes to that.I would therefore implore all those that seem to be taking an intellectual view on this issue to also imagine the possibility of say their only son or daughter in future revealing this to them and then truly and honestly determine if it would be ok with them. If it is, then fine, but i can only speak for myself.


posted on 02-07-2009, 06:31:58 AM
Ada
Re: Homosexuality And The Nigerian Society
QUOTE:
Why the emphasis on anal sex?

( I was responding to a comment made by K station \\"]\\"I think you are totally confusing the issues here! First of all, anuses are made for shit and shit alone, either in man or in goat!!! \\" [/COLOR]

(Homosexuality is not limited to men you know?[/B] ( as above)

Are you also trying to imply that the pleasure of anal sex is why men become gay?

( no- where did you get that from?)
Are you saying that an heterosexual couple who engage in anal sex and enjoy it would because of that necessarily have anal sex with people of the same sex just because they enjoy anal sex? i. e because i have anal sex with my girlfriend and enjoy it does not mean i would be willing to have it with a man.
( no- again have no idea how you reasoned that)


Personally in as much as i believe some form of genetic make up influences people to become gay, i however also believe peer pressure, mans innate desire to experiment and developmental problems such as a man growing up under an excessively aggressive mother e.t.c may have also contributed to people becoming gay. This however is my personal opinion.

Personally also, i have realised its one thing to have an intellectual view on issues and publicly express this as many have done on this forum only to change that view when that same issue or situation 'comes home to roost' or moves closer to home. Basically, when i find myself in a position of uncertainty in taking a categorical stand on issues, the way i like to fully and honestly gauge my feelings towards that issue is to imagine someone close or dear to me being in that particular situation for example i would look at my young daughter or son and imagine how i would feel later when he or she in future suddenly come to tell me they are in a same sex relationship and that i probably would not have a grandchild? Yes i know about artificial insemination and all that but quite frankly i do not even like the thought and i sincerely hope it never comes to that.I would therefore implore all those that seem to be taking an intellectual view on this issue to also imagine the possibility of say their only son or daughter in future revealing this to them and then truly and honestly determine if it would be ok with them. If it is, then fine, but i can only speak for myself.

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here here !

posted on 02-07-2009, 08:59:25 AM
Ozoodoo
Re: Homosexuality And The Nigerian Society
@Ada,

Please how do lesbians have anal sex????

posted on 02-08-2009, 06:15:34 AM
Ada
Re: Homosexuality And The Nigerian Society
QUOTE:
@Ada,

Please how do lesbians have anal sex????


i dont know ozodoo.. how do lesbians have anal sex?

posted on 02-08-2009, 06:44:57 AM
Denker
Re: Homosexuality And The Nigerian Society
ada, my dear loving sista, is anal sex directly proportional sensually to anal gaping or would you say is rather inverse proportional..?

inquiring mind wants to know...thx!
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