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My South African Experience

MY SOUTH AFRICAN EXPERIENCE

On Thursday night of October 1^st 2009, the national Chairman of our great Party Chief Bisi Akande, the Lagos State Chairman of the Party in Lagos Chief Dele Ajomale, his wife, the representative of the Governor and my humble self left for South Africa to inaugurate the chapter of our Party. Business finished on Saturday 2 and 3 of October 2009 in both Pretoria and Johannesburg, we had Sunday October 4 to look around. It was my first visit to South Africa and what I saw stunned me into disbelief.

Am I in Africa or Europe? Am I in America? Is this another Singapore? Could this be true? Where was Nigeria when South Africa was putting all these structures in place? If the white man did all these in South Africa why was Nelson Mandelas of this world complaining? If South Africans got their independence on a platter of gold the way Nigeria got hers in 1960, would there have been all these structures I am seeing here today? Impossible! Impossible!! Impossible!!! From what I saw on ground in South Africa, it looks as if all the companies and industries all over the world are physically present there. Ah! Nigeria has been left behind. South Africa is the potential and undisputable leader in Africa. Thanks to the white South Africans.

I came to the unhappy conclusion that the mosquitoes that drove the whites away from Nigeria in 1960 did a colossal and unmitigated damage to Nigerians. I again asked myself these questions: How many black Africans did the whites kill before surrendering power to them few years back? How many Nigerians have been killed by Nigerian leaders since they took over power from the whites in 1960? Let us compare the figures. I am sure the supreme prize SouthAfricans paid to have the South Africa I see today will be so infinitesimal compared with what our leaders have killed to remain in power in Nigeria I see today

What I am saying is that is God would have allowed the whites to tarry for at least more 30 years in Nigeria and we would have been better for it. Madela survived 27 years in prison because the whiteman was a better person. He could not have survived ten years in prision in Nigeria.

My conclusion after seeing what I saw in South Africa is that the whites left Nigeria in a hurry, and that is why we are suffering today. Had the whites tarried in Nigeria, Nigeria would have been like South Africa today. I want the whites back in Nigeria!

Joe Igbokwe

Lagos

posted on 11-05-2009, 17:55:12 PM

Austin

Re: My South African Experience

Dear Mr Joe Igbokwe,
I read your article and the first emotional reaction that overwhelmed me was to feel sorry for you. I also felt like heaping insult on you. But then, my sense too charge. I realised that if I did all those, I wouldn't be acting better than yourself. And that would be two wrong, which will never make a right. And if you happen to regain your consciousness (which is inevitable) faster than me, then of course, I would be cooked. So, my advice to you sir, is to eat the chill pill. Try relaxing and reflecting on a deeper scale, about all you saw. And then take a look back at your comment above and see how off the mark you have gone.
By the way sir, aren't you supposed to be one of the people running Lagos state? I guess i needn't ask more than that. Honestly. Cheers and so long.

posted on 11-05-2009, 19:54:37 PM

What?

Re: My South African Experience

You can have all the whites you want. Confer with your LG Councilmen and state Governor to invite them to take over your hometown and state. Once the rest of Nigeria sees the paradise they'll create everyone will be rushing to hand over control of their state to white people.

posted on 11-05-2009, 20:35:05 PM

Emj

Re: My South African Experience

QUOTE:

I came to the unhappy conclusion that the mosquitoes that drove the whites away from Nigeria in 1960 did a colossal and unmitigated damage to Nigerians. I again asked myself these questions: How many black Africans did the whites kill before surrendering power to them few years back? How many Nigerians have been killed by Nigerian leaders since they took over power from the whites in 1960? Let us compare the figures. I am sure the supreme prize SouthAfricans paid to have the South Africa I see today will be so infinitesimal compared with what our leaders have killed to remain in power in Nigeria I see today

What I am saying is that is God would have allowed the whites to tarry for at least more 30 years in Nigeria and we would have been better for it. Mandela survived 27 years in prison because the white man was a better person. He could not have survived ten years in prison in Nigeria.

My conclusion after seeing what I saw in South Africa is that the whites left Nigeria in a hurry, and that is why we are suffering today. Had the whites tarried in Nigeria, Nigeria would have been like South Africa today. I want the whites back in Nigeria!

Eherm Mr Igbokwe,
Thank you very much for this short satire...hope u realize that leaves a bad taste in the mouth?.

Hmm....hope it was a satire(if so, it was in bad taste), if not, u had better shoot yourself for what u wrote(see the bolded and underlined). How in the world can u equate the tarrying of the white to development and growth in South Africa and Africa in general?

How do u even begin to compare the wasting of human life?
What's the worth of human life in your own opinion?

PS>>>..Abtw, the South Africa u visited has in it's bank's vaults a lot of petro dollars that belongs to Nigeria...stashed by politicians and corrupt govt officials and their fronts.

posted on 11-05-2009, 21:35:36 PM

Lapalapa

Re: My South African Experience

Mr Igbokwe, I hope you are reading these comments. The truth, and my main advice to you, is that smoking is not good for your health, especially when you smoke something stronger than SM! In addition, drinking something more than water and CocaCola coke is not a good idea. If you really want to live long, desist from all those things. They make people hallucinate a lot, and such people begin to see white bodies in their dreams! Please, do contact your physician as soon as possible. If you show him your posting, he will definitely tell you a little bit more about what you need to do.

I hope this helps.

posted on 11-05-2009, 23:15:52 PM

Auspicious

Re: My South African Experience

QUOTE:

MY SOUTH AFRICAN EXPERIENCE

On Thursday night of October 1st 2009, the national Chairman of our great Party Chief Bisi Akande, the Lagos State Chairman of the Party in Lagos Chief Dele Ajomale, his wife, the representative of the Governor and my humble self left for South Africa to inaugurate the chapter of our Party. Business finished on Saturday 2 and 3 of October 2009 in both Pretoria and Johannesburg, we had Sunday October 4 to look around. It was my first visit to South Africa and what I saw stunned me into disbelief.

Am I in Africa or Europe? Am I in America? Is this another Singapore? Could this be true? Where was Nigeria when South Africa was putting all these structures in place? If the white man did all these in South Africa why was Nelson Mandelas of this world complaining? If South Africans got their independence on a platter of gold the way Nigeria got hers in 1960, would there have been all these structures I am seeing here today? Impossible! Impossible!! Impossible!!! From what I saw on ground in South Africa, it looks as if all the companies and industries all over the world are physically present there. Ah! Nigeria has been left behind. South Africa is the potential and undisputable leader in Africa. Thanks to the white South Africans.

I came to the unhappy conclusion that the mosquitoes that drove the whites away from Nigeria in 1960 did a colossal and unmitigated damage to Nigerians. I again asked myself these questions: How many black Africans did the whites kill before surrendering power to them few years back? How many Nigerians have been killed by Nigerian leaders since they took over power from the whites in 1960? Let us compare the figures. I am sure the supreme prize SouthAfricans paid to have the South Africa I see today will be so infinitesimal compared with what our leaders have killed to remain in power in Nigeria I see today

What I am saying is that is God would have allowed the whites to tarry for at least more 30 years in Nigeria and we would have been better for it. Madela survived 27 years in prison because the whiteman was a better person. He could not have survived ten years in prision in Nigeria.

My conclusion after seeing what I saw in South Africa is that the whites left Nigeria in a hurry, and that is why we are suffering today. Had the whites tarried in Nigeria, Nigeria would have been like South Africa today. I want the whites back in Nigeria!

Joe Igbokwe

Lagos

Wow.

A few questions:

1. Is this the same Joe Igbokwe we hear about?

If so, na wa o.

2. What is the need to open a \"South African Chapter\" for their Party?

Last I checked, ANC or the US RNC didn't have a branch in Abuja or Lagos.

3. Has Mr. Igbokwe ever travelled out of Nigeria before?

To where? Ghana?

----

The ability to communicate one's views effectively (without losing the message to unintended(?) misyarns) is a priceless asset that everyone should strive for.

Auspicious.

posted on 11-05-2009, 23:49:35 PM

UDEMEAKPAN

Re: My South African Experience

Mr. Igbokwe, I would advise you to travel more often. Use your own money (not the local govt./State govt. or your 'great' party money) to travel more. This will obviously provide an invaluable lesson in the development of self worth. I find no central theme in your convoluted submission, so my comments will be general and sometimes paternalistic. I hope you forgive me for this.

From your very first paragraph, you espouse an attribute of cronysm and personality worship that has been the bane of development of my country, little wonder why the above replies to your short post has been mercilessly scathing.
You will soon learn that this is not a forum to be easily impressed by name-dropping and exultation of people without integrity.

Since your return from south Africa, have you asked your 'great' party National and Local Chair, his wives, girlfriends and hangers-on (like yourself) to be more accountable for the tax payer's hard earned money that has been entrusted in your care? This is one of the ways that the massive infrastructure in SA was developed. Visionary leadership (though initially deeply flawed) fortified by robust judiciary; where thieves, some of whose patronage you may be benefiting from, are brought (even if eventually) to justice.

Are you a reading man yourself, Mr. Igbokwe? I also implore you to read a bit about the countries you visit. Read about the silent and unacknowledged effort of the 'slaves' that the Apartheid regime used to build the beautiful country you visited.
Read about Selfless leadership and sacrifice of Sages like Madiba Alfred Luthuli, Govan Mbeki, Mandela and the silent minority that paid the ultimate price, so that their children might be free; and that by extension, your patrons on the other side of Africa- Nigeria, might enslave their own people, when they steal public funds with impunity, to buy real estate in Sandton and Cape Town. Did you ever think to take your entourage of shame, to visit Robben Island or even the Apartheid Museum in Johannesburg?
Would Bisi Akande or Chief Ajomale and his wife ever be caught dead in Soweto or the Townships in Capetown, exploring the deeper meaning of the legacy of Apartheid? I would opine that this is a better use of the scarce resources of your 'great' party than the hedonistic frolic disguised as a useless party excursion, that your hapless tour group embarked on. At least God-forbid, your party would have added a patina of knowledge.

When you left the 'posh' parts of Johannesburg and Pretoria, did you also visit the inner city areas, which are arguably more dangerous than the worst parts of Lagos? These areas are the vestiges of the crimes against humanity perpetuated on an innocent people by others with delusions of racial superiority; a legacy of the 'whites' you apparently are in awe of. The impact of these crimes are; fractured socio-cultural cohesion and a loss of sense of self, as evidenced by the unacceptable crime figures in South Africa today.

I believe the few minutes I have spent responding to your short, albeit poorly thought through write-up, will hopefully, help you take a position of integrity when you and your government sponsors use the scarce resources entrusted in your care.

posted on 11-06-2009, 08:17:09 AM

Ikpemalueziokwu

Re: My South African Experience

Villagers,

Why are you all behaving like people who do not want to look at the Biblical tree, so that the poison of the serpent does not kill us all

Fact the Whiteman stayed longer in SA and practised Slavery using the labour to build the edifices that Nigerian immigrants are struggling day and night to go and enjoy and Igbokwe is saying that nigeria would have been better off with the SA approach but for the Almighty Mosquito

Late Dee Sam Mbakwe in one of his weepful moments called for the White man to be brought back to govern this space for another 40 years

As for me Ikpema, I do not really care who governs this space any longer provided like Aristotle, "what is best is that which is best governed".
I think that the root cause of the whole problem is a palpable deficit in good governance

An excess dose of the latter and Nigeria cna be an El Dorado in our life time.

posted on 11-06-2009, 10:02:01 AM

Peterclaver2006

Re: My South African Experience

I can see most of the people that have so far commented on Joe Igbokwe’s article are falling over themselves to demonstrate what I call empty patriotism, verged on paranoia. They throw up at the mention of the whiteman coming back. They have seen the world but they have not impacted anything on the borderless land of tears we have here. They have travelled over land and sea. They have seen the bests of civilization and modernity, yet they have not been able to transfer a neon of what they saw outside to the rampaging hell we have here in Nigeria. They sneak into their country, ply death traps, sleep in pitch darkness, hide from robbers and kidnappers, leave under a stone age condition and sneak out again to a world of comfort, leaving the Igbokwes and millions of others to die slowly here under the canopy of freedom. They won’t mind this pitiless rot continues while we fool ourselves about being free. They treasure our powerlessness to deal with our common foes as signs of freedom and they wont mind if we all die singing the songs of freedom; freedom for scoundrels. Pity, pity, pity…………

posted on 11-06-2009, 19:16:21 PM

Lapalapa

Re: My South African Experience

@Peterclaver2006

I understand your feeling. But, my brother, the reasons for the indignation against the Igbokwes of Nigeria are more than what you can read on these pages. I'm struggling really hard not to say much because if I burst this debate will continue forever. Many of the respondents to Mr Igbokwe's article feel the same way. It is something more than patriotism; it is more about being human beings! Of course, I know Mr Igbokwe is a patriot, the main reason he wrote that piece. He was in severe pain when he knew what could have been, and doubly frustrated that it never looks like it will happen someday under the current political state of our dear nation. Out of frustration, he cried for the return of the white man, just like many Nigerians do daily. But many of us who have seen the white man know exactly who he is and will banish any of those thoughts represented by Mr Igbokwe's piece. It is simply not the solution. People who think the white man will solve our problems are smoking bad stuff and should stop it quickly because it is not good for our national health! Remember we once had a president who thought the best solution was to travel around and get the white man to save Nigeria? Well, we now know better. An average Nigerian can say it but when people in positions of leadership begin to say such things, it is a problem. Our help shall not come from outside the shores of Nigeria. We are the ones who will save our nation. We may currently be toiling away in several corners of the world or shaking and boiling under the hot farts our "leaders" are spouting at home; a day shall come when we will all arise and take back our nation. We shall not need the help of a foreigner to do it. Enough said.

posted on 11-07-2009, 09:54:57 AM

Ofunwa Villager

Re: My South African Experience

Mr Igbokwe abi na Hausajuu, my question is, what is the name of this your 'GREAT PARTY' that you mouth about and what made you think that a party that exist only in name deserves to be called great. One of the greatest evil that the millitary heaped on Nigeria is that those who found fame simply because they could haul abuses at the millitary, now consider themselves and whatever nasty political amalgam they are associated with to be the greatest. See how Tinubu stole Lagos state blind yet Bola Tinubu was one of the voices that railed against corruption and misrule of the millitary. Joe Igbokwe's recent ressurection, i have my doubts if it's not in connection with the coming elections.... Your great party indeed. the most dangerous thing any State or Nigeria would do is to handover the keys to a government house or ministry to this white worshipping fellow called Igbokwe.

posted on 11-07-2009, 11:23:00 AM

Igboamaeze

Re: My South African Experience

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I am Igboamaeze and I endorse Igbokwe's opinion...

posted on 11-13-2009, 12:35:53 PM

M. Akosa

Re: My South African Experience

QUOTE:

Mr. Igbokwe, I would advise you to travel more often. Use your own money (not the local govt./State govt. or your 'great' party money) to travel more. This will obviously provide an invaluable lesson in the development of self worth. I find no central theme in your convoluted submission, so my comments will be general and sometimes paternalistic. I hope you forgive me for this.

From your very first paragraph, you espouse an attribute of cronysm and personality worship that has been the bane of development of my country, little wonder why the above replies to your short post has been mercilessly scathing.
You will soon learn that this is not a forum to be easily impressed by name-dropping and exultation of people without integrity.

Since your return from south Africa, have you asked your 'great' party National and Local Chair, his wives, girlfriends and hangers-on (like yourself) to be more accountable for the tax payer's hard earned money that has been entrusted in your care? This is one of the ways that the massive infrastructure in SA was developed. Visionary leadership (though initially deeply flawed) fortified by robust judiciary; where thieves, some of whose patronage you may be benefiting from, are brought (even if eventually) to justice.

Are you a reading man yourself, Mr. Igbokwe? I also implore you to read a bit about the countries you visit. Read about the silent and unacknowledged effort of the 'slaves' that the Apartheid regime used to build the beautiful country you visited.
Read about Selfless leadership and sacrifice of Sages like Madiba Alfred Luthuli, Govan Mbeki, Mandela and the silent minority that paid the ultimate price, so that their children might be free; and that by extension, your patrons on the other side of Africa- Nigeria, might enslave their own people, when they steal public funds with impunity, to buy real estate in Sandton and Cape Town. Did you ever think to take your entourage of shame, to visit Robben Island or even the Apartheid Museum in Johannesburg?
Would Bisi Akande or Chief Ajomale and his wife ever be caught dead in Soweto or the Townships in Capetown, exploring the deeper meaning of the legacy of Apartheid? I would opine that this is a better use of the scarce resources of your 'great' party than the hedonistic frolic disguised as a useless party excursion, that your hapless tour group embarked on. At least God-forbid, your party would have added a patina of knowledge.

When you left the 'posh' parts of Johannesburg and Pretoria, did you also visit the inner city areas, which are arguably more dangerous than the worst parts of Lagos? These areas are the vestiges of the crimes against humanity perpetuated on an innocent people by others with delusions of racial superiority; a legacy of the 'whites' you apparently are in awe of. The impact of these crimes are; fractured socio-cultural cohesion and a loss of sense of self, as evidenced by the unacceptable crime figures in South Africa today.
I believe the few minutes I have spent responding to your short, albeit poorly thought through write-up, will hopefully, help you take a position of integrity when you and your government sponsors use the scarce resources entrusted in your care.

Thank you. Thank you !!!

posted on 07-03-2010, 14:14:28 PM

Selous

Re: My South African Experience

@Lapalapa... "Our help shall not come from outside the shores of Nigeria. We are the ones who will save our nation." Correct me if I'm wrong... but you have had 50 years... very good article mr. Igbokwe, glad to see there is still sanity left in Africa...

posted on 07-04-2010, 04:29:31 AM

Eja

Re: My South African Experience

People, take this article as a serious warning. Get involved. If you are not yet involved, then make it a priority to get directly involved in what is going on in dat cuntry becos if you don't, na persons with minds like the one possessed by dis Joe Igbokwe na dem go dey run tings. And we can see where they intend to take us all. They can do nothing else. Na de limits of dem capability we dey see so.

Meanwhile....

QUOTE:

very good article mr. Igbokwe, glad to see there is still sanity left in Africa...

One 'wise' man sitting half-naked in a gutter sees another running past without trousers - long blokos flapping in the wind - and says "good to see there are still some sane people in this village..."...kai!! dis peepul no go take laff kill pesin on a Sunday morning.

posted on 07-04-2010, 04:50:17 AM

Denker

Re: My South African Experience

QUOTE:

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I am Igboamaeze and I endorse Igbokwe's opinion...

..i second dis comment....abi na 20 years plus blacks dey rule SA..their people still dey live in slums...nawah for wawah...lol!

QUOTE:

My conclusion after seeing what I saw in South Africa is that the whites left Nigeria in a hurry, and that is why we are suffering today. Had the whites tarried in Nigeria, Nigeria would have been like South Africa today. I want the whites back in Nigeria!

..no ma bruder, we no dey come..make Allah torment una until una start using una brains proper or die off..we no care anymore!

posted on 07-04-2010, 08:02:53 AM

Selous

Re: My South African Experience

Stop raping the language, and learn to spell! or... is that the education you have?

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