| How to Interview Babangida |
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| Written by Hakeem Babalola | |||||||||||||
| Sunday, 12 November 2006 | |||||||||||||
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Babangida was reported to have gone to collect his #25million PDP presidential nomination form in Abuja. During this pilgrimage, Inspector General of Police was among the escort! Many Nigerians obviously the rented ones lined up to assure him of their moral support. Meanwhile, a Nigerian-Canadian, Babs Ajayi, has vowed he would take the green passport to Nigerian High Commission in Ottawa to renounce his Nigerian citizenship if Babangida became president in 2007. While I share Ajayis sentiment, pseudo-patriots like Babangida will never force me to renounce my citizenship. Another Nigerian, Jonathan Elendu, recently had interview with the same man. That interview to me was image laundering of the former dictator. Such interview is an intellectual assault on Dele Giwas talent. The interviewer refused to ask appropriate or good follow up questions. Therefore, the interviewee got away with his trademark maradona or evil genius. The former dictator must have hypnotized Jonathan Elendu, a man who has exposed some corrupt governors in the past. From that interview, one could probably see why Omoyele Sowore finally left Elendureports. Hence I have prepared this mockery interview. Good day Mr. Coup plotter IBB: Point of correction. I prefer Mr. Junta. Okay sir, but what is the difference? IBB: The same way annulment is different from cancellation. Bo, words have much more meaning to me than wealth. I do not joke with words. No, I do not.
I see, why did you cancel the election, after all, you agreed it was free and fair? IBB: Because it didnt favor my candidate and my agenda. Your agenda! What agenda? IBB: I shall tell you before the end of this interview.
But MKO was your friend.
IBB: I didnt trust him.
Trust him over what?
IBB: For my agenda, which I said Id tell you later.
But people voted for Abiola, and he was declared winner until you annulled, sorry, cancelled it... IBB: (Interruption) yeah, they voted for ITT...I am sure you remember Felas song. International Thief, Thief Oh, I admired the man Fela. I still do. He even had death in his pocket. Tell your readers to go listen to Abami Edas song again and again, and then tell me if Abiola was such a saint to die for, or to rule Nigerians. He was a military man in civilian disguise. Forget about him.
But it wasnt about Abiola rather democracy.
IBB: Yeah, democrazy
demonstration of crazy.
Talking about Fela, your government and your predecessor persecuted him and now you seem to be eulogizing him.
IBB: See, youre wrong. I actually released him from where power drunk Tunde and Muhammadu caged him. Honestly, no government would tolerate people like Fela. He was too blunt and arrogant. Was he also Owu man? You know what he said when I released him? He said: I no go say thank you to any government. That was an ingratitude thing to have said to your saviour. I hope Mallam OBJ will not be asungrateful as that. That man Fela was too crude. His songs were revolutionary and iconoclastic. However, he was an honest man till the end.
Unlike you, a liar and cunning man!
IBB: That is why they named me evil genius. Every politician is a liar and cunning so I take your comment as a compliment. You either know how to manoeuvre your way or become politically reticent. A kind of dog eat dog situation.
Are you proud of being named evil genius?
IBB: A genius is a genius, period! Sir, why did you guys always take such risk by plotting coups since death was the penalty?
IBB: Boy, plotting a coup is an adventure. Coup to the military is what news to the press. I think you get my analogy. It is a dream of every Nigerian military man. You either do it or lose your wife to other guys who are brave enough to thread the path of lions. A military man will never earn his wifes respect until he plans a coup a successful coup. Mallam, successful coup means money. This is the vehicle by which a man can become wealthy and powerful two most important things in life. But your song usually was coming to rescue the nation.
IBB: And you believed us! My friend, it was only a slogan for quick acceptance. Nigeria is beyond repair. And I challenge anyone who thinks otherwise.
Ribadu just said that Nigerian past leaders stole over 65 trillion naira. Gosh, you guys really have stealthy finger steps to have stolen that much. How did you guys manage to do it?
IBB: I dont think its up to that amount. We all know that Ribadu likes to exaggerate. That guy definitely has a hidden agenda. Nigerians need to watch him before he becomes a dictator.
You showed how coward you are by rejecting summonses to appear before the Human Rights Violations Investigations Commission. I cannot understand why any right-thinking person, especially a man of your caliber, missed such opportunity to clear a dented name.
IBB: That commission was set up to persecute IBB, and I would be a fool to be so naïve not to recognise it as such. Have you suddenly forgotten my name? I am Maradona, the evil genius. And I do not joke with my precious life.
So why do you want to stage a come back?
IBB: (adjusts his agbada) Do you want my honest answer?
Sure
after all, we based our agreement on that concept.
IBB: Okay
I am broke. Besides, I need to get my inheritance back from senior Segun.
So you lent it out to him? You lent out a whole country to an individual?
IBB: (flashing his gap-teeth) Correct, I let it out to him. Yes.
What if OBJ refused to return it to you?
IBB: He is not an ingrate fellow. Besides, its my turn again. Mallam, it is IBB 2007. Insall Allah, the campaign has started. By the way, what do you think of the recent 1st Annual Thisday Independence Musical Festival? It was fabulous. Wasnt it?
Why did you save him from that lunatics gulag?
IBB: From whos gulag?
From Sani Abachas gulag
IBB: Well, I didnt save him. It was you people, and em
human right activists like Beko who actually saved him. By the way, only OBJ and I have the charisma and intelligence to rule Nigeria. And now that he has lost the third term agenda, the power belongs to me.
But what if he passes the baton to someone else?
IBB: Then you will see why they call me evil. Mallam, you will see why it was easier for me to rule the country that has produced a Noble laureate and an Achebe. Nna, you will see why I am the master of the game. You will know the meaning of IBB.
Are you going to Dele Giwa him?
IBB: Just wait and see.
The fact that Abacha did not eliminate you before you got rid of him is still a surprise to Nigerians.
IBB: (laughing) although I did not have anything to do with his death, I have always won whenever we fought. I mean right from those days we used to play chess. Sani was a moron. How he managed to be a General is still a mystery to me. Some are even carrying the rumour that he was not a Nigerian.
Why did you assassinate Abiola?
IBB: I was not in power then, so IBBs hands are clean. But you see, Nigerians always attribute everything that is wrong to me. It is not fair. No court has ever found me guilty of any crime. It is speculation, lie and slander.
Why did you guys kill Dele Giwa?
IBB: (stares for about two seconds, and then coughs, and then the muscles on his forehead become visible, and then he stammers) T-The court said we-we d-didnt. (Regains his posture) Anyway, the question should be like this: what was Dele Giwa expecting from the president
?
(Interruption) Meaning what?
IBB: Dele Giwass case is now history. He sold his life at a considerable sacrifice. He was such a brilliant handsome young man! Unfortunately, he was too simple and vulnerable for the task he embarked on. Now nobody is talking about the man again not even his associates. Remember the magazine he founded once named me The Person of the Year and this, after his death. Mallam, this is Nigeria. Only the lion hearts survive. You can get away with anything. Nigeria I hail thee.
Chief Gani Fawehinmi recently said that you cannot escape justice for Giwas murder. Are you afraid?
IBB: No, I am not afraid. That man Gani is a troublemaker. You should not take people like him seriously. By the way, I think I have already won the case in the court of law. Gani is a very brilliant lawyer and a true human right activist but Giwas case he will never win. I am ready for him anywhere any time.
Why did you execute your bosom friend, Mamma vatsa?
IBB: Mamma was a bloody coup plotter, and all coup plotters should end up like him.
Including youself I suppose.
IBB: No, I am not a coup plotter as I corrected you from the beginning of this interview. Call me a junta. A juntas junta.
But it has the same meaning!
IBB: No, and we should leave it like that.
Okay, what if OBJ were Jerry Rawlings?
IBB: (frowns and then adjusts himself) If any Nigerian would be Jerry Rawlings, then its me (he beats his chest) Ibrahim Badamasi Babangida, the former Nigerian President and Commander in chief of the Army Forces of Republic of Nigeria.
Are you implying that you will execute all former heads of state?
IBB: Just wait and see. Wait and see my friend.
But people will not vote for you anyway. They are terribly tired of your maradonic tendency
IBB: I believe that is your prejudice. Besides, the results of Nigeria elections have never determined the winner. Arent you a Nigerian? In fact, many Nigerians trooped out to see me when I went to pick my #25 million presidential nomination form.
#25 million nomination form! Anyway, the international community will not accept your presidency.
IBB: Who cares? As long as power is in my hand, I will force them to crawl before me. No, I wont beg them. IBB is quite different from OBJ. I will force them to the negotiating table. Look at Iranian President. The man is using what he has to get attention. The western world does not respect beggars. Africans must realise this fact otherwise we shall remain the joke of the universe.
Your ambition to rule Nigerians again is reckless. It is like throwing a challenge to Nigerians. It is as if 2007 had been maradonically planned in 1993 when you cunningly stepped aside.
IBB: Whatever! Then let the people prove me wrong or right Its my right to contest for any position in the land.
So what is that agenda you promised to tell me before the end of this interview?
IBB: (grasps) To make Nigeria a permanent member of OIC
Insha Allah.
Are you serious? But Nigeria is a secular state!
IBB: That is only in theory, my friend. Why do you think the Arabic inscription on our currency remains! Religious is the best way to destroy the masses inclination. It is a ploy most leaders use to cause confusion. So Nigeria will gain a lot by joining OIC.
Ah, what of Ejigbo plane crash?
IBB: Some citizens would have to sacrifice their lives for their country. It is the primary duty of any military man to protect their country from external aggression. Or what are you implying by Ejigbo plane crash?
Any comment on OBJ?
IBB: He is the Father of Modern Nigeria. He is a man who knows how to deal with you people.
Buhari?
IBB: He is a bloody coup plotter who has no respect for law. He is also a religious fanatic. Muhammadu is not fit to rule good people.
Abacha?
IBB: He was a lunatic as you said. He was a boy trying to be a man. He milked our treasury dry. Sani was a big time armed robber in army uniform.
Omo Omoruyi?
IBB: Omo is one of my boys. He has been a very good boy.
Bolaji Akinyemi?
IBB: He used what he had to get what he wanted.
Arthur Nzeribe?
IBB: A prostitute
he is a sophisticated political prostitute. But of course I like him.
Wole Soyinka?
IBB: An intellectual to the core. But I really cant pinpoint his ideology. You know he served under me despite his hatred for the juntas. Our relationship was very close in those days until he divorced me. You know it was because of that closeness that made Gani to turn him down when he (Wole) organised a party for Gani to rejoice with him for winning a case on the 18th of December 1987.
What of Oshiomole, labour leader?
IBB: (laughing) You know that I do not join issues with my subordinate. However, this man is worst than me. He pretends to be fighting on behalf of the masses whereas he lives a life basically designed for the super rich like those bloody coup plotters. He should be prosecuted. Of course he wont escape prosecution comes 2007.
Nuhu Ribadu?
IBB: (shrugs then picks his nose) No comment.
Maryam your wife?
IBB: (face wreathed in smiles) Hum
I have done everything for her. Even my coming back is because of her. I dont really care as long as I satisfy her ambition. She has never been wrong. She is my beautiful angel, who directs every step I have taken. Her wish is my command. She knows the best. And this is the main reason why I know that 2007 belongs to the Babangidas. Maryam wants to be the first lady again. It is an exalt position she enjoys so much. And I think she did well during her first reign. Didn't she? Remember she won an international award for her better Life for Rural Women programme. I am proud of her.
She could as well go for presidency.
IBB: No, no, no
We know our limit. Nigeria is not ready for a woman to be their leader. Babangidas do not chew more than we can swallow. Besides, Nigerian women are not born for such task. Let them continue to be our helpers as ordained by Allah.
Who do you fear and respect?
IBB: Allah.
Human being?
IBB: Maybe Gani. You know he was the only one who had the gut to turn down the military by rejecting ministerial appointment. Others including those yeye professors were not brave enough to refuse the military, contrary to their fake posture to the nation. Anyway, I think Gani was spiritually blessed to have rejected such appointment because it was a bait to catch him. Sani would have destroyed him if he had agreed to serve under him.
Just like you meant to destroy Tai Solarin, Abi?
IBB: (broad smiles) Well.
What do you think of Jonathan Elendu?
IBB: Jonathan who?
The guy who interviewed you recently
Elendureports.
IBB: His interview has meaning than yours. He was a professional. The guy is a true Nigerian and one of the best among you. He reminds me of Nduka Obiagana of Thisday, a fine young man. This Elendu has got himself a plum job, while you remain poor with this your yeye interview.
It's Obiagbana sir...Anyway, what do you think of againstbabangida.com?
IBB: Oh, thats another entity I fear. Those guys are mad but well organised. I am glad you mention them. You know Ive sent emissary to those guys but they proved stubborn. They bend on destroying me. I mean they should name their price, so we can sweep everything under the red carpet. If they are reading this, I promise all of them ministerial posts.
Your legacy?
IBB: A man who knows how to dribble.
Thank you sir.
IBB: (he frowns) No answer.
Epilogue
Oh, I thought he was going to ask questions about my sexuality. Anyway, I knew what I would have said. I would have told the idiot that a man with a beautiful wife and children could be neither homosexual nor bisexual. In any case, IBB is for project 2007 and nobody is going to stop us. There is no cause for alarm, for if I cancelled the 1993 fair and free election and heaven did not fall then there is nothing these yeye people can do in 2007 when I become Mr. President.
Surely if Nigerians are dogs that bite instead of barking all its life, I would never dream of ruling this country again. However, this reporter hinted that Nigerians are angry with me. Is it true? On the other hand, my boys are drumming it loudly that Nigerians want IBB back. Allah, who should I believe? Well I know I am the only Nigerian who can turn things around. Long live my Nigeria!
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Posted by Robot| 12.11.2006 15:10