Who are These Pastors?

On the front cover of Tribune, 13 November, 2007, former President Olusegun Obasanjo was pictured  cutting the tape to declare open the Precious Cornerstone University at the Garden of Victory, Old Ife Road, Ibadan. With him are the General Overseer of the Redeemed Christian Church of God, Pastor Enoch Adejare Adeboye, his wife, Folu, and Bishop Wale Oke, President, The Sword of the Spirit Ministries.

Shortly after, Obasanjo proceeded to Lamidi Adedibu's house to decare him "the father of PDP". The blessing received from Pastor Adeboye, must have trickled down from Obasanjo to Adedibu, and on to his god-son Alao-Akala and to the thugs that eat from the crumbs, I hear from his very generous tables – giving them more strength to attack NAFDAC officials in their lawful duty of saving the Ibadan indigenes from death and fake drugs.

In another episode, as reported by the SUN Newspaper, Tuesday November 13, 2007. Pastor Tunde Bakare, of the Later Rain Assembly was quoted as saying that he would only forgive Obasanjo if he returns his loot; "For us to forgive anybody, the founder of the Latter Rain Assembly told Saturday Sun, we have to confirm that he did not steal anything that belongs to you and I. And if he did, he has to return whatever he stole before we can talk about forgiveness" he said.

The naive would presume that God speaks to both Pastor Adebayo and Tunde Bakare for both men claim to be men of God. But if God gives them contradictory messages then he is a God of disorder not of peace.  My God has definitely not spoken to any of them, "For God is not a God of disorder but of peace". - I Corinthians 14:33.

Meanwhile, I just got wondering whether it was this same Bakare that prophesied that Obasanjo would die before being sworn in as the president in 1999. When his prophesy failed he claimed it was his prayers that saved Obasanjo!

That religious leaders indulge in spiritual fornication with political leaders have always been a historical fact, the Nigerian pastors are taking the phenomenon to unprecedented height. The orthodox religious leaders go to great lengths to court the patronage of politicians and big men, but they always manage to attach some dignity to their antics, couched under the veneer of public good, but not so today's so called pastors.

Pastors should mean fathers of the flock and not fleecing of the flock – ten percenters and tithe collectors – and definitely should not be spiritual prostitutes – oholah and oholibah; Committing spiritual adultery with political leaders and business merchants for money and influence.

Because of the poor economic condition in Nigeria, many pastors today have deviated from the gospel as it was at the beginning. They have to fight for survival. Secondly, because of the large number of churches, pastors have to devise enthralling strategies to win flocks, religion have been decentralised and very competitive, so pastors have to be very ingenious. They remove what God wants man to do in their gospels and preach only what God would do for them. Their message is prosperity, not poverty, flamboyance rather than modesty, indulgence and never chastity. What they sing to cover what they do is ‘Me I no go suffer, I no go beg for food. God of miracle na my papa o…' Is such song not an insult to God? They go for broke to attract the big men; they water down the gospel in order to please their benefactors. They tell the big men what they want to hear and not the truth. They offer soothing balms to gloss over their iniquities.

Preachers should not go against their precepts, but these men go against what they teach. Hypocrites, they bear big names; ‘reverend, evangelist, apostle, primate, overseer' and so on while the Christ says religious leaders should be called "servants". They gather people and calculate their numbers. They buy costly cars and travel overseas. Did Christ do those things?  The Bible says, ‘the Birds have their nests and Dogs have their dens but the son of man have nowhere to lay down his head'.  The Christ came to suffer, and they are now singing "Me I no go suffer," Is that the way of Christ. Is that the way of that lowly, modest, humble man that trudged the town of Galilee and villages of Palestine barefooted, preaching repentance? Blatant advertising and attention seeking that we observe among the pastors of today, is that the way of that righteous man that the scriptures said "would not raise his voice in the village square"?

The scripture aptly says concerning them, "These people honour me with their lips, but their hearts are far removed from, they turn aside the commandments of God and teach their human ideas as doctrines". Their form of religion is a snare and a racket. Their prescriptions are not eye salves and their teachings are wormwood; the gate to hell rather than the highway to heaven.

Karl Marx must have the naïve and feeble minded Nigerian in mind when he termed religion "the opium of the masses"!



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Re: Who are These Pastors?
WaleAkin posted on 11-14-2007, 17:45:54 PM
It's so sad to see the present day church so vain and seriously out of context with the principles of God. It's even so appalling when Pastors raise unneccesary offerings when they are guest speakers at other churches cos the more money you can raise in my church, the larger your HONOURARIUM would be when going back to your church.

Pastors here in the UK drive Porsche Cayenne, Porche Cayman, BMW X5 and live in 5-6 Bedroom Houses in the outskirt of London while hardworking church members come to church in Toyota Carina(M-Reg), Renault Laguna(R-Reg), Vauxhall Corsa (T-Reg) and still very gullible to dance to their coverteous tunes of the Pastors.

Lets continue to attend church services and have the strong belief that we are going to such places to meet our Omnipotent and Omniscient God who is able to see us though the travails of life. Lets continue to pay our offerings and tithes as instructed in Malachi 3 so that the windows of heaven will be opened and blessings poured.

Let the Pastors continue to siphon the funds, i am very sure that when we eventually get to heaven, many of us will be shocked cos some popular Pastors will be seriously flogged and frog-marched by Angel Michael before being sentenced by God.

Paul and the disciples in Antioch were called Christians cos they were well behaved and had the traits of Christ the Master in them all hence the use of the word- Christian

The office of the Bishop in Nigeria has been turned into something else, i can confirm that no Bishop is ordained in Nigeria today without having a BIG CATHEDRAL which is one of the criteria before you can be ordained and consecrated!!

They are very quick to travel to the UK and US on preaching engagement cos they know it will either be Pounds Sterling or Dollars honourarium, they leave their primary place of assignment and rush to the UK where they stay in 5-Star hotels and shop at SOMETHING ELSE (They have their kind of Bishopic cum Nigerian shoes at this store) and VINA TEXTILES in Liverpool street.

Reinhard Bonnke came to Nigeria in 2005 and the Pentecostal Fellowship of Nigeria PFN which was his main contact for his crusade messed up his finances and we heard that popular bishops siphoned his dollars-The rest is history now!!

Heavy Heart
Re: Who are These Pastors?
Pappilo posted on 11-15-2007, 01:06:45 AM
These so called pastors are spiritual guymen and the followers are spiritual maga

Let the f.ools who want to continue to make these fake men of God richer continue in their ways and let the wise ones learn..... no long thing!
Re: Who are These Pastors?
Mikky jaga posted on 11-15-2007, 02:15:37 AM
Adeboye failed to tell Obasanjo the home truth about his looting of the Nation's treasuries because of the monetary gains he got from the government, he was condemned; Bakare told him to return the looted money before thinking about forgiveness, he was also condemned by the writer. What else?

There is no need lumping all pastors together for blame. If one man has decided to corrupt himself for filthy lucre's sake, it does not mean that all pastors are out for gain, and there are no more men of God around again.

Talk to Adeboye and people like him who have sold their consciences for a mess of pottage. Do not try to condemn all men of God.
Re: Who are These Pastors?
OluSegun posted on 11-15-2007, 02:22:24 AM
One very good excuse that comes now whenever Pastors are prodded about thier seeming capitalist tendencies is the fact that they say that "churching" is business And they support that attitude with the quote from the bible attributed to Jesus Christ "...i must go about my father's business" All thier actions therefore are geared towards maximising profit. As a matter of fact, one wont be surprised if one of these days, one of the mega churches in the country goes to the stock exchange market!

However, where majority of the masses sees hopelessness almost submerging them, they can only run towards "anything and anybody" who promises hope! That is where the Pastors becomes relevant-They are supposed to be messengers of hope. It now becomes criminal for anybody, irrespective of whatever he or she calls himself to now exploit that situation.Unfortunately, that is what happens, exploitation of the hopeless. How Fela is becoming more and more prophetic by the day?

Oh, i agree that some of us will continue attending church services, we will continue paying tithes and offerings, but we do all of these based on personal convictions. Whoever choses to siphon money should go on, i have this serious feeling that such would be used as some firewood in Hell!
Re: Who are These Pastors?
WaleAkin posted on 11-15-2007, 07:50:24 AM
QUOTE:
Adeboye failed to tell Obasanjo the home truth about his looting of the Nation's treasuries because of the monetary gains he got from the government, he was condemned; Bakare told him to return the looted money before thinking about forgiveness, he was also condemned by the writer. What else?

There is no need lumping all pastors together for blame. If one man has decided to corrupt himself for filthy lucre's sake, it does not mean that all pastors are out for gain, and there are no more men of God around again.

Talk to Adeboye and people like him who have sold their consciences for a mess of pottage. Do not try to condemn all men of God.


Hi Mikky,
Can we have the proofs that Pastor Enoch Adejare Adeboye did sell his conscience and has become a spiritual stooge? I eagerly await your response.

Daddy G.O as he is fondly called is a Pastor amongst Pastors, a university don who took over the control of the RCCG from a stark illiterate in person of late Pa Josiah Akindayomi of blessed memory(A plus to his academic prowess) on the verge of him becoming the Vice Chancellor of the University of Lagos.

Adeboye turned around RCCG to what it is now and many of us will eternally be grateful to God for birthing such outstanding virtue in Nigeria.

Cheers
Re: Who are These Pastors?
UncleTisha posted on 11-15-2007, 08:51:27 AM
QUOTE:
Hi Mikky,
Can we have the proofs that Pastor Enoch Adejare Adeboye did sell his conscience and has become a spiritual stooge? I eagerly await your response.


Daddy G.O as he is fondly called is a Pastor amongst Pastors, a university don who took over the control of the RCCG from a stark illiterate in person of late Pa Josiah Akindayomi of blessed memory(A plus to his academic prowess) on the verge of him becoming the Vice Chancellor of the University of Lagos.

Adeboye turned around RCCG to what it is now and many of us will eternally be grateful to God for birthing such outstanding virtue in Nigeria.

Cheers



@WaleAkin,

Point of correction.

The fact that Pa Akindayomi could not speak english did not make him a 'stark illiterate'. It is on record (from the video commemorating him) that he could read and quote from his Yoruba Bible.

Such a man person cannot be regarded as 'stark illiterate'

Cheers!
Re: Who are These Pastors?
WaleAkin posted on 11-15-2007, 09:18:35 AM
Tisha,
Apologies for the use of the words "Stark Illiterate" but you'd notice that i meant no harm at all, it was just a form of expression as to the spiritual bonding between an academic don and a Pastor.

Cheers
Re: Who are These Pastors?
Nero africanus posted on 11-15-2007, 09:38:16 AM
most of these new generation churches have nothing spiritual about them ,

most of them exist for purely therapeutic relief they offer to the congregation

you need hope to get from one day to the next in nigeria

most of them are businesses pure and simple

that preach odious messages in the name of sermon

they conduct advertisement and call it tv evangelism

meanwhile our people ever superstitious and gullible are continually fooled and fleeced of their hard earn money

in most cases the pastors are richer than almost every member of their congregation and they see their wealth as their right

this capitalist message that they preach this days was started by patrick anwunah of zoe ministries

who used the catch phrase all the time "begin to prosper .......... poverty is a sin "

can you believe this ?

people like chris oyakhilome took it to the next level , with glamour, film tricks and dramatics etc

it is pathetic what has happened in nigeria ..............................
Re: Who are These Pastors?
Overdryv posted on 11-15-2007, 10:11:35 AM
No matter how people try to paint these `' men of god'', the truth is that they are all fraudulent people. These people are hardened criminals and have never receive any message from any god. They are in possession of magical powers with which they hypnotize their followers. Was it not the same Adeboye that was linked with N20 billion import waiver scandal? There is a tv pastor in Britain who goes by the name Gilbert Deya. He was implicated in baby theft cases in Kenya. He still preaches on tv. Nigerian have an insatiable appetite for religious deceit. Thats why the churches are filled to the brim every sunday. None of them could come forward to say what he has benefitted from the church. Their pastors asked them to donated their last kobo to get multiple blessing. And such members trek home after service. The same pastor would drive past them in his jeep and wave at them saying may the lord be with you. What a primitive folk!
Re: Who are These Pastors?
Austin posted on 11-15-2007, 10:24:35 AM
Just curious, has any of the commentators on this thread ever heard of the concept "sanction of the victim"? There's no doubt that the undestanding of that simple phrase will go a long way to explain a lot. But once again I was just being curious!
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