12

Apr

2006

Still on Dianne Abbot (MP) PDF Print E-mail
By Ben Oghre
By Ben Oghre

I think Uche Nworah expected Diane Abbott's views to be different from the average ethnic Jamaican's sciolism and perception of most things Nigerian. This phenomenon is deep rooted in the psyche of many of our Jamaican brothers and sisters based in Britain.

If Diane Abbott looks carefully she will see it is the Jamaicans in the UK who continually seek relevance by recourse to the primordial sentiments of ethnicity and nationality that fans the flames of discord amongst Nigerians and Jamaicans. It is this overwhelming ignorance that pervades the black race in Britain.

If you were raised and surrounded by people who have enslaved, abused and hated you, it's no surprise that in addition to whites and Asians you'd find other groups to despise. The Jamaicans in the UK in my view and observation are a good example of this.
 
As a Nigerian living in the UK for many years, it is indeed quite a revealing experience; the brand of hate you will find among the Jamaicans in the UK is very interesting. It is not only the interface of indecency and illiteracy but it's the ignorance, cretinism, inanity and irrelevance in some of the utterances and actions of this lost in the time wasp group of former slaves. The hate of Africans is visceral and pathological.

There is no political correctness with this lot, the Jamaicans tried to no avail to become a part of Britain's "accepted" ethnic power structure by turning on Africans. Many Jamaicans talk about Africans with quizzical nescience and obtuseness, wondering why Nigerians are so functionally literate and professional, why even the criminal elements among Nigerians are brainy scammers, as supposed to the petty criminal lot of their mugging, rape and yardie intelligentsia.

When former British metropolitan police commissioner, Paul Condon said 80 percent of muggings in the City of London was perpetrated by blacks he was in fact talking about our violent and barbaric brothers of Jamaican extraction.

 They cannot understand why even in crime the average Nigerian is a white-collar, non violent skilful criminal. They envy Nigerians their resourcefulness and drive to succeed. Initially their claim was that Nigerians work dirty petty jobs that blacks should not do in modern day Britain, they claim such lowly jobs make us look like slaves and put all blacks in a bad spotlight.

They prefer instead a culture of handouts and dependency on state welfare and benefits, the average Jamaican sees welfare dependency as a way of getting back at the white man for years of enslavement. They consider council social welfare housing as their birth right, and once saw Nigerians as rivals in struggling and scrounging for hand outs in a society they feel blacks have become economically deprived and alienated.

 But times have changed, with multiculturalism and changing legislation against racism and discrimination, many blacks have started to enter professions they were never allowed to venture before, many have aspired to become academics and professionals in many fields of endeavour, many seek educational pursuits, and it's sad to say that many of our Jamaican born brothers and sisters refuse to uplift themselves educationally and professionally. It is understandable that many of them are illegal but then so are Africans; the question is why are there more Africans in UK higher institutions than there are Jamaicans? Why are there more Nigerians and Africans buying properties than the average Jamaican? Why is it that when you look in higher institutions and in the corporate corridors where minorities exist there are more Asians, British born West Indians and Africans than Jamaicans?  

Their constant drivel about slavery and victimisation is almost costing them socio-economic empowerment in the UK society and serve to do anything else but leave them in the time wasp that they created for themselves. The average Nigeria see many Jamaicans as desolate and wasters of opportunities, a wasted chance derived from being more affiliated with the UK from the days of slavery and being one of the first minority groups in the country.

The successes of other minority groups compared to the depravity of many Jamaicans in the UK are an eyesore that many Nigerians can't understand, why waste many academic and professional opportunities in a land of plenty like the UK?

 Nigerians often speak of Jamaicans as confused and out of touch with the changing times. I often wonder why the Jamaicans will be more associated with weeds, alcohol, dread locks and reggae music as supposed to say the medical profession, engineering and science. What standards have the Jamaicans set for people from Africa who came after them? How have they socially and economically helped the lot of many black people who initially came here to meet Jamaicans as the first mainly black people in Britain?

Perhaps Diane Abbott should use her time in Nigeria to find out why Nigeria was voted the happiest nation on earth a few years ago; she should check what lessons Jamaicans can learn from Nigeria's fast growing economy that has produced freedom from debt and a surplus of nearly $50 billion, rather than engaging in irrelevant homilies she should advice Jamaica to learn from the socio-economic successes of Nigeria.


Ben Oghre, Co Wexford, Republic of Ireland



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RobotRobot is offline

 # 1 | 12.04.2006 16:49

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DeepThoughtDeepThought is offline

 # 2 | 12.04.2006 17:22

I really don't know what the writer is trying to accomplish. If you have issues with Jamaicans and feel like abusing them, pls do so but don't use Ms Abbott as a convinient excuse for Jamaica bashing.

Simply write an article and abuse Jamaicans to your hearts content!

As far as I'm concerned Ms Abbott speaks for herself. This is an issue, if you want to make it one between you and Ms Abbott. Pick up the phone or write her.

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AdamuAdamu is online

 # 3 | 12.04.2006 17:49

DeepThought, did you read this article at all? Better still, did you read the article by that so-called British MP with Jamaican ancentry? If your anwers is yes to these two questions, then it's either you are blinded by some inexplicable prejudice here or you are simply in need of a lesson in English grammar!

Haba....this is a very educative and wonderful article that gives an insight into the arrant nonsense previously written by that woman who wanted to seek glory for her ancenstral land at the expense of Nigeria.

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ExxcuzmeExxcuzme is offline

 # 4 | 12.04.2006 18:12

Uncle Ben,

You write up is no different from Ms Abbo(r).t. Both of you do not look at why people are what they are? You seems to be saying all these bad attributes are the content of their characters? instead of years of colonia mentality and abuse.

Both you and madam Abbot are condescending just like a Mexican professor that came to the my US college mentioned about the native mexicans fighting the Mexicans govt in Chiapas as lazy, uneducated lots etc. I asked him isn't thesame whites are saying about the mexicans in the US? He just shot up! and I think it will be adviceable to those who want to write thesame to do likewise...keep quiet...and ask pray to God..."for the grace of God...there goes I"

There was a study done in the in 70's that my work showed us during and ethic class. It was how when you call someone a goa for too long he will start seeing himself like a goat.
They divided two kids in a primary school class into two to show how praise and criticism affects people.

One group A kids were given a task with encouragement while group B group were given similar task with criticism. The group with praise did the task faster while the other group were slow and frustrated. They reversed the process giving group B praise and they improved and group A kids, with critisim this time, did not improve but were frustrated.
This was to show the white kids the effect of racism on Black Americans. Just like the Jamaicans.... you will not know the effect of racism and ingnorance if you were born IN IT. We Nigerian or other Africans should be glad that we were not born in such cirmcumstances. These Black Jamaicans and American had their lineage denigrated for many years and these became self fulfilliing prophecy. It takes time for a family to break out of such ignorance.

We should all look for ways to collectively help each other lift the darkness we see and erase in our minds such darkness.

We should thank those before us, who were able to teach us we can be equal or better than the whites, instead of looking down on others..

Please Ucle Ben and ms Abott disabuse ignorance from ya mind.

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DeepThoughtDeepThought is offline

 # 5 | 12.04.2006 18:46

Adamu,
Imagine you are a passenger in a car . The driver runs a red light and then the police apprehends the vehicle. Instead of accosting the driver, they arrest you.

What do you think of that logic?

O.k , someone (an individual) has insulted you or your country. Rather than taking issues with that person will you go to Mr Xs house and fight? Did Mr X send the individual to insult you?

Thanks

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EyanEyan is online

 # 6 | 12.04.2006 19:26

But in which ever way u pple look at it, Ben is still saying the truth. Majority of the jamaicas here in canada look down on africa. They belive they r better than anybody from africa.

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N.A.R.N.A.R. is offline

 # 7 | 12.04.2006 19:40

Looks like this madam is causing a lot of headache for NVS members!

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DeepThoughtDeepThought is offline

 # 8 | 12.04.2006 19:59

Eyan,
Honestly, we should be thanking Ms Abbott as this has provided an opportunity to straighten some things even amongs ourselves starting with the NVS.

Have you noticed the tribal battles on the villagesqure. It goes something like this:
A stupid Yorubaman abuses Igbos. Rather than an offended Igboman personally calling the first ***** to order. No- what does he do?. He abuses the Yoruba back. Then takes a side swipe at the Hausa.

Before long, an Hausaman or his sympathiser comes along, rain curses on the Yoruba, Igbo, all southernerns and just to satisfy his bile, he drags Christians into the matter.

Soon we have WWIII on the NVS with muslims abusing Christians, Igbo against Yoruba, e.t.c. Even Atheists and Babalawos will eventually join the sensless fray.

Do you see where I'm going with this? We need to come to our senses before we escalate these kinds of things.

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ObugiObugi is offline

 # 9 | 12.04.2006 20:11

All,

**Obugi enters thread with smoke belching from his nostrils**

Did I hear someone mention Igbo ppl in the same sentence as Yoruba? DeepThought, how far will u go with this ur Igbophobia? The conflation of Igbo and Yeye Yoruba ppl in the same sentence is an affront 2 Ndi Igbo everywhere.

DT, u must apologize! So now because Uche Nworah started a thread u and NAR ur Ngbati brother decided 2 gang up on him? :mad: Since when did any self respecting Igboman ever see himself in the same sentence with the Yoruba? This is how u ppl instead of minding ur business during the war, chickened out and joined on the side of the Gworo munching Hausa fools and useless, lazy South South ppl!

**Emmm, did that last sentence make any sense? Hold on let me consult my dictionary**

Never mind, e correct. Did I insult enough ppl? Let the war begin. Una go hear wen.

Obugi.

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emjemj is offline

 # 10 | 12.04.2006 20:27

Obugi, u will get urs soon, we will send dedicated chemical weapon missile(di one wey ur brotherbush bin wan plant 4 iraq) after u----------:wink:
dis one go pass ija ore'----:biggrin: :biggrin: that is if u remember where ore' is located in Nigeria:D


C--caution, this message will self destruct immediately u read it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!^^^^^^^^^^^^^
 

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