article may be guided by some passionate belief in a good cause, while this is his right it may conflict with some fundamental principle of human rights, and humane regard for life and property. Celebrating terrorists is not the easiest thing to do; I don’t envy him but then one must try and understand why some people deem it fit to hold barbarians as their heroes.

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Garba A. Isa’s Iraq: Beyound Al-Zarqawi, a contribution PDF Print E-mail
By Ben Oghre

The writer’s article may be guided by some passionate belief in a good cause, while this is his right it may conflict with some fundamental principle of human rights, and humane regard for life and property. Celebrating terrorists is not the easiest thing to do; I don’t envy him but then one must try and understand why some people deem it fit to hold barbarians as their heroes.

Abu Musab Al-Zarqawi was a terrorist of the most heinous pedigree. At the height of his reign purported to be in revenge for the removal of a brutal dictator/attack on Islam (according to Garba), Al-Zarqawi and his brainwashed fundamentalist followers murdered thousands of Muslim and Christian Iraqis, peace keepers, aid workers, Americans and coalition forces. It is right to say this man was not a true messenger of Allah by all accounts. His was a private venture to seek some kind of paradise that any semi-literate person knows does not exist. For anyone to claim they will have access to 1000 virgins for fighting some ludicrous battle, rubber-stamped as religious-warfare, is not only insulting the intelligence of the most moronic of semi-humans but also abusing the gullibility of sycophants.

That the man survived for 3 years should once again raise the question of why the “good Muslims” who hardly renounces such violence and bloodshed cannot take it in their stride to help remove these human catastrophes. At the end of the day the American invasion of Iraq is a lesser evil than a man who kills his own Muslim people he claims to represent.

The question is not whether the Americans attacked a Muslim heartland, it is whether the war was illegal in the first place; Americans have attacked many sovereign nations under the guise of democracy, but then their brand of democracy only works if you have an abundant supply of crude oil or access to some other means of enrichment. If you know what the Americans are like, it is either in your best interest to ally with them permanently or at best be a responsible country with a UN backed rule of law. Saddam Hussein made that mistake, he once befriended the Americans, fell out with them, and continued to abuse and murder his people (who by the way are mostly Muslims), and assumed the role of a brutal dictator. Such posture is a recipe for disaster, even if the world will try and rescue you from the clutches of the Americans don’t give them much to work with.

By the way, Saddam Hussein was never accused of an attack on Islam though he probably killed more Iraqis and Iranians than the Americans. No jihad was ordered on him and no Islamic country sent terrorists to bother him. He is a Muslim and as such allowed to kill as many as he deem fit. He was later to be forcefully removed from power, disgraced, when he was arrested; nearly a million in cash found on him, all of it in American dollars. Why he bothered to carry the currency of the great evil nation beats me till this day.

With Saddam the dye was cast and it may be cast again with the way the new Iranian president is going about his business. Building a nuclear weapon and calling for a country to be wiped off the face of the earth are hardly educated utterances. When he then gets attacked to stop him introducing the first “nuclear suicide bombers” he calls it an attack on Muslims and appeals to the Islamic world to fight a jihad, people like al- Zarqawi gets in the picture. They embark on murder sprees of their own people and a small handful of the opposition, die in the process and are expected to be transported to a place somewhere in the heavens where there are virgins waiting to pleasure him for the rest of his life. If anyone believed that in the 13th century I don’t expect many to in the 21st century. The educational system present in the universe today is adequate enough to educate people and prevent them from such farcical interpretations.

The armed robbers of Nigeria should not be left out of this plethora of virgins dished out when you rubber-stamp any pogrom a jihad. Why not setup a road block in Keffi or Minna, rob and murder people for their possessions, loot them, kill them and when you get caught, sentenced to death by firing squad, you should call it an attack on your faith, seek martyrdom and demand your 1000 virgins.

Many countries don’t learn from these mistakes, they rather wait for it in the hope that the rest of Islam will join their crusade and label an economic, human rights or social issue a crime against Islam and seek martyrdom thereafter. The Pakistani internet café owner who had his license revoked by a west London local Authority called it an attack on Islam. The Northern Nigerian leadership are still calling for a jihad on the Nigerian government because some Muslims were removed from government and the military. That is the level of ludicrousness we have come to see with playing the religion card.   

We are treated everyday to clerics, religious leaders and ordinary Muslims who claim the religion by large is one of “peace”. The present state of events shows otherwise, it is currently involved with 2/3 of the conflicts going on in the world; hardly any of these conflicts are resolved using diplomatic or objective means. Why bother to fight in the first place knowing the other party has more sophisticated weaponry defeats my imagination.

For these brainwashed militants to fight some war that has nothing to do with the religion, they are promised paradise and virgins that even the planet has an abundant shortage of. These hoodwinked illiterate miscreants who have no clue of the issues involved in the dispute then go on a murdering and pillaging cocktail of booby traps and suicide bombings. I can bet my bottom dollar that if you pull one of these mujahideens to discuss politics of the conflicts they probably don’t have the faintest clue what caused the battles, who the other party is and why they are fighting. That is the level of idiocy involved with fighting a war where the adversary is assumed to be against the religion.

It is not bad enough that the bloodshed is happening in one country, other animalistic-types unconnected to these conflicts then decides to play brotherhood and attack the next non-Muslim in their communities, as far away as northern Nigeria or Chad. It is no longer an issue involving a dictator like Saddam Hussein or the production of a nuclear weapon by an irresponsible government but now a universal call to kill and destroy anything in a crusade-like slaughter of Christians.

When we hear these near-silent whisper of “peace” from some Muslims they don’t always back it up with a call renouncing the atrocities of these terrorists, there is no strong voice of opposition from a religion that is supposed to seek co-existence with other filths (sorry, faiths). We are instead treated to sermons of how the Iraq and Palestinian conflicts are the cause of the killings of Christians in the Sudan, northern Nigeria or the bombings in Bali. Where are the voices of opposition from the “good Muslims”?

With the number of Muslim clerics, leaders, sheikhs, commentators, editors, news writers who speak on international issues is in abundance but none of them offer any sort of explanation or a call to desist from using violent means to resolve issue concerning Muslims. When they do it is so weak and laughable! If they use the same passion they muster to condemn the Americans on al-jazeera and other al-jazeera-types and the will they gather to encourage these terrorists they would probably reduce the amount of violence associated with Islam.

Garba believes the invasion of Afghanistan was against Islam; what he did not mention is that the same Taliban regime in Afghanistan was responsible for the murder of over 5000 Muslims, Christians and animists in the world trade centre. That particular crime has not been called a crime against Christianity, not a single Christian has called for a jihad to murder Muslims in the city of New York or in Timbuktu.

When some home grown British terrorists got upset one morning and slaughtered 52 people in the City of London the Muslims in east London and Bradford UK were not rounded up and sent to the slaughter house, their compatriots instead accused the whole country of ostracising them and of police heavy-handedness. One of these bearded ones will soon get compensation for the intrusion into his home while police were looking for home made Hamas-type bombs and lethal gas.

While Garba was busy eulogizing his terrorist heroes, he did not have enough writing time to pray for the souls of the innocent people killed by these maniacs; instead we are treated to a sermon of America’s wider strategic plans against the Islamic World. The likes of Garba were on holiday when Muslims went on numerous Christian killing sprees in Northern Nigeria. Who can blame him when he has no knowledge of what transpired, afterall his focus is on Iraq, thousands of miles away. He surely could not have read any of the Nigerian papers reporting these atrocities; they sure as hell did not happen in the region where he resides.

Garba is not aware of any unprovoked Islamic terrorism on innocent non-American Christians before and after the Iraq invasion and that would explain why he never wrote an article denouncing the northern Nigerian, Sudanese or Bali terrorists.

Garba’s joy in the fact that another al-Qaeda leader in Iraq may soon emerge from the rubbles of al-zarkawi tomb is a reality, what is also a reality is that leader will be targeted and removed from the face of the earth. Evil like that cannot be around for too long to make nonsense of civilisation. It is ironic that a man who spent his time bombing innocent people had to die by the same sword, in this case two F16 500lb bombs.

Today Bin Laden is stuck in a hole, a man who celebrated heroism after the fall of the soviets in Afghanistan. He is now nothing more than a shadow of himself; this was a man who lived a palatable lifestyle, had money and could have made a difference to the lives of other Muslims. He chose instead a life as a fugitive after killing 5000 innocent people, none of them American soldiers. Nemesis will catch up with these murderers, the will of decency and civilisation will prevail, and good will continue to triumph over evil.

 

Ben Oghre

London, UK



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RobotRobot is offline

 # 1 | 19.06.2006 10:24

The writer’s article may be guided by...Read the full article.

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AbraxasAbraxas is offline

 # 2 | 19.06.2006 15:04

Hi, Mr. Ben Oghre!

You seem to be Mr. Garba A. Isa’s exact alter ego: in short, you are a Christian fundamentalist bigot, just like Mr. Garba Isa is a Mohammedan (Muslim) fundamentalist bigot. You two make a very good sado-masochistic pair!

Quite frankly, I see no reason whatsoever why your article, which is actually a misdirected rejoinder to one Mr. Garba A. Isa’s article that came up in a totally different website (Gamji.com), should find expression in the Nigerian Village Square.

Why send your rejoinder to the Nigerian Village Square, even after sending same to Gamji.com (where it rightfully belongs), instead of distracting our focus here with absolutely unproductive dogma-related diatribes?

Please, even if nothing else, the patriotic task of peacefully escorting His Imperial Majesty General Okikiolakan Aremu Mathew Olusegun (Baba 3rd Term) Obasanjo (GCFR) back to his village villa in Owu hamlet by (or before) mid-day, Tuesday, 29 May 2007, by any means necessary, demands that we sharpen our vigilance and thinking, instead of indulging in trivial pursuits like veering tangentially into esoteric discussions about dead Iraqi insurgents. Why not discuss the socio-economic ramifications, philosophy, psychology, and logistics of mangrove forest insurgency in the Niger Delta, for a change?

Please, (in the mighty name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth) kindly quickly cut the crap, I beg you!

Thank you very much, my friend.

Muchas gracias, mi amigo.



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OghreOghre is offline

 # 3 | 19.06.2006 16:31

It sure takes one bigot to know one, you seem to indulge in this trait yourself now and again, only when it suits his highness I suppose. I don’t know about “sado-masochistic”, Is that not the exclusive preserve of an honourable Don like you? Your photo surely foots the bill.


About websites, if the keepers of the NVS, Amanaonline and Gamji see fit to publish an article that bothers on a serious issues why should your highness have a problem if it originated from one website or the other? Is your highness a busybody perhaps, one who takes to infantile incoherent comments riddled with platitudes and claptrap?


Does you highness not think that Islamic fundamentalism that’s cost thousands of lives in Nigeria is not more important than OBJ? Is your highness in love with OBJ perhaps, “sado-masochistic” comes to mind here.

Perhaps his highness has made significant contribution to the Nigerian nation and her socio-economic and political situation by sitting here everyday reminding us of the problems, without so much as offers any solutions.


No disrespect to your highness but he left his royal self wide open there, It was too tempting, I had to take a shot.

Have a nice day your highness and Muchas gracias, mi amigo.

Ben

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Bunch17Bunch17 is offline

 # 4 | 19.06.2006 16:44


........Islamic fundamentalism that’s cost thousands of lives in Nigeria ......



Is that the daily, weekly, monthly, yearly or the cummulative total?
What is your source or are you making up facts again?

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OghreOghre is offline

 # 5 | 20.06.2006 03:16

Below are some of my sources.

The question is not only whether you can read but also how long it will take you to comprehend.

http://michellemalkin.com/archives/004588.htm

http://www.bpnews.net/bpnews.asp?ID=19992

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/war/nigeria-1.htm

http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/CWN/050605nigeria.aspx

http://www.harpers.org/Nigeria.html

http://islamstrueface.blogspot.com/2005/07/muslim-atrocities.html

http://jamestown.org/terrorism/news/article.php?articleid=2369814

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Bunch17Bunch17 is offline

 # 6 | 20.06.2006 03:30

I see.
First you refuse to answer my first question. Let me repeat, is your use of "thousands" a reflection of the daily, weekly.........figure?

Now I see what your evidence is. I don't know what type of man that will stake his reputation on what does not even qualify as level 5 evidence. May be you expected us to believe any rubbish you come up with just because Ben Ogre says so.
Some evidence.

BTW: None of your links say anything like Islamic fundamentalism that’s cost thousands of lives in Nigeria ...... . I think you should avoid making sweeping statements which you cannot defend. It is a sign of immaturity. I note that you made similar claims on the Diane Abbot thread and vanished when challanged.

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AbraxasAbraxas is offline

 # 7 | 20.06.2006 04:03

Dear Mr. Ben Oghre!

Once more, I insist that there is no reason whatsoever why your article, which is actually a misdirected rejoinder to Mr. Garba A. Isa’s article, should surface in the Nigerian Village Square, even after sending same to Gamji.com (where it rightfully belongs), instead of distracting our focus here with absolutely unproductive dogma-related diatribes, and dismally uncouth responses? You seem to be Mr. Garba A. Isa’s exact alter ego: in short, you are a Christian fundamentalist chauvinist, just like Mr. Garba Isa is a Mohammedan (Muslim) fundamentalist chauvinist. You two make a very good sadomasochistic pair!

Please, the patriotic task of peacefully escorting His Imperial Majesty Chief General Okikiolakan Aremu Mathew Olusegun (Baba 3rd Term) Obasanjo (The Great) back to his village villa in Owu hamlet by (or before) mid-day, Tuesday, 29 May 2007, by any means necessary, demands that we sharpen our vigilance and thinking, instead of pandering to the lure of trivial pursuits like veering tangentially into esoteric discussions about dead Iraqi insurgents. Why not discuss the socio-economic ramifications, philosophy, psychology, and logistics of insurgency in the swamps of the Niger Delta, for a change?

Please, I beg you, cut the crap!

Thank you very much.

Muchas gracias.

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OghreOghre is offline

 # 8 | 20.06.2006 04:05

I just found the below in the first link I sent you, there are many more like it. You may need a calculator. You may also need a dictionary to understand what fundamentalism is.

I know you have reading problems and can't inbibe anything. Are you also a Neanderthal perhaps?

"November 20-21, 2002 - Angry Muslims went on a rampage in Kaduna after an article in the This Day newspaper suggested that the prophet Muhammad would probably have married a contestant from the Miss World pageant scheduled to be held in Abuja. Muslim mobs ransacked the newspaper's office and then began to attack Christian targets, damaging up to 20 churches. Over 200 people were killed and 1,200 were injured in the attacks. Non-Muslims were reportedly singled out and stabbed, bludgeoned, or even burned to death. (Barnabas Fund, CSW)"

“Nigerian Muslims protesting caricatures of the Prophet Muhammad attacked Christians and burned churches on Saturday, killing at least 15 people in the deadliest confrontation yet in the whirlwind of Muslim anger over the drawings.”

"If there is something worse than the killing of 15 innocent Nigerian Christians and the burning of their churches by their Muslim brethren for the sin of belonging to the same religion as the Danes, it is the refusal of reporters to tell the ugly truth."

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OghreOghre is offline

 # 9 | 20.06.2006 04:21

Abraxas,

If you have nothing to contribute to any discussions relating to Islamic fundamentalism in Nigeria, regardless of whether it was published on the “wrong” website then do the honourable thing and either keep quiet or move on to the then next post.

If you have no constructive comments or contribution, why attack the writer and the website where it was published? I think the best thing you can do on this occasion is ask the NVS to ban me, and I insist they should if they find me a nuisance. If you must know I have asked them to stop my membership at any point if they feel the need.

In the meantime please write an article on your favourite subject and we can all contribute, if you are unable to do so then hold your horses and back the off instead of sitting in judgement of others.

There are just too many unknown quantities on this website, begging for terrafirma beneath their feet, people without substance, those with complex problems who cannot have their say but rather attack others for voicing theirs.

Go away Abraxas, leave me alone. Go hide somewhere where you may be significant.

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Bunch17Bunch17 is offline

 # 10 | 20.06.2006 04:26

Ogre,

You need to check the dictionary again. There is a difference between thousands and 200+.


I just found


So you did not even read the article before you posted a link to it. That is so immmature.

Don Juan,
No kidding, the Oghre guy is very scary!
 

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