08

Nov

2009

Recently someone paraphrased Olusegun Obasanjo, the former Nigerian President. The erstwhile ruler was quoted to have said that Nigerian youths are leaving - and dreaming of leaving - the country in droves because Nigeria is overpopulated. I did not know - nor did I read it anywhere - when the man made the comment, so I would assume it is apocryphally attributed. But such statement is not beyond Chief Olusegun Aremu Obasanjo. Nor is it beyond any man walking the streets of Lagos. However, I do know that Obasanjo counted the glut of mobile phone handsets in Nigeria as one of his government’s achievements. Only handsets, I’d choose to say, because Nigeria has nothing to do with both the manufacture of either the phones or the digital technology that makes them function.

Certainly, Obasanjo did not just wake up one day imagining mobile telephony was one of his achievements. The rather amen-minded people he led must have, wily-nilly, suggested this to him. As early as 1999, I had heard people begin to thank the fledgling Obasanjo’s government for enabling a lot Nigerians to own mobile phones. I wonder how those who spieled off this sort of bull did not take a moment to think that the spread of mobile phone use was a demotic inevitability, an immanent staple of globalisation. Even the government of a tiny country like the Gambia, which had as many mobile phones per capita in 1992 as Nigeria was to have eight years later, did not consider it an achievement. The dynamics of globalised supra-economics that began with the fall of the Soviet Union in 1990 are such that a country led by a fool would ultimately get connected to the ‘information highway,’ even if it had to be helped by the Chinese, or South Africans, who might have their eye on exponential returns.

I have heard it parroted for as long as I can’t remember that Nigeria’s hyperpopulation is one of the reasons the country is failing. And from the first time I heard this flawed reasoning I have always countered it, even when my views had not even been mellowed with data, statistics and considerable knowledge of political economy. The problem with the notion of high population is not so much that it is erroneous as that it might give Nigeria’s misrulers something to blame for their slimy utter badness. I would not be surprised if Obasanjo had indeed blamed huge population for any number of Nigerian maladies, he must have had his ear close to the ground.

Now it might be argued that as the 14th largest country in continent, speaking about square miles, one might be tempted to say that Nigeria is overpopulated, hosting 1 in 6 Africans within its space. But this would be an argument built on false premise, what philosophers might call paralogy. Africans might be breeding faster than Europeans for instance, that does not mean that there are more than enough people for the size or wealth of the continent. Countries bigger than Nigeria, like Libya or Algeria, may even be considered underpopulated, seeing that the vast Sahara that flows into other sparsely populated countries like Chad and Niger is mainly uninhabitable.

Then subsaharan Congo, which is more than double the size of Nigeria. With a population of just over 63 million, it is 3 million more than the United Kingdom, and it is more than ten times the size of latter country. The sociology of demography is not that simple, but Congo can easily take as many people as India or China and has the natural resources to give itself the needed shunt onto the trail of self-sufficiency – even with a hypothetical population of a billion. Although right-wing fascists are whipping up fears of overpopulation and overcrowding in the United Kingdom, it has been proved over and again that the British isles can still take tens of millions more.

The same thing applies to Congo and Nigeria. Well, if the geographical mosaic called Nigeria cannot carry the weight of a billion people (it may just as well can) it should at least be able to withstand the accession of as many more people as it contains now, that is 300 million, the population of the United States. It does not take the exquisitely discerning to see that the size of our population has nothing to do with the plight of the people of the country. As a matter of fact, we should even be happy that we have such a large population, the country’s inept rulers should be looking at how to make capital of humanpower instead of indulging in clueless circumlocutions and the lazy alibi of overpopulation. Japan is a country whose population I can easily compare with that of Nigeria. The group of islands known as Japan contains some 130 million people or so, and yet the country is no larger than one of Nigeria’s old three regions. If any country needed to use overpopulation as a pretext for entropy it should be Japan, the sprawling Greater Tokyo conurbation would dwarf our own ‘megacity,’ Lagos, fourfold. But we all know what Japan has done with its large population and what it is still doing. 

Before India began to sit up and take notice - particularly take notice of its neighbour China - some of its wonks had come up with the population excuse for underdevelopment. But now it has discovered that its population, like China’s, is one of its strengths. In his book The Post-American World (And the Rise of the Rest), the influential Indian-American social commentator Fareed Zakaria mentions Africa sparingly, the only African country he alludes to more than twice is South Africa, and this is from the prism of third-tier developing countries like Brazil and Turkey, both of which, like South Africa, are members of the G20, a group that Nigeria fondly pines to be part of. Zakaria mentions Nigeria twice, the first time in relation to corruption, the second time as a metaphor for the poorer chunk of the burgeoning India. Zakaria says something to the effect that although India is growing it still has within it several Nigerias, in other words it is still burdened by bulging pockets of penury and want.

I was pretty miffed when I read this – I was miffed not with Zakaria but with the fact that his illustration is far from inaccurate. Anyway, I brought up Zakaria’s book because of the emphasis he places on the huge populations of India and China, these being as major contributors to both countries’ growth. People, and the expertise they can offer, are the cogs in the galloping progressive wheels of the two countries. Today it is an acknowledged fact that some of the major exports of India are its rough-diamond geeks who often become smoother and valuable when they arrive in the West. In spite of the westward gravitation of a lot of their experts (especially to America), both China and India do not spend too much time lamenting about brain drain. Such is the vitality of the remanent populations. Writing about how China is lucking its way into the risks-and-riches economies of Africa, John Lee of Sydney's Centre For Independent Studies pinpoints the growth of African population as integral to the continent's future well-being. 

Besides professionals, ordinary  Indians and Chinese, like Nigerians, still leave their countries in huge numbers, and not because they were choking for lack of space but for economic reasons, just like Nigerians. But to the degree that Nigeria is increasingly becoming a nasty and brutish place to live, it was reported recently that sans war or any kind of political conflict, Nigerian nationals came high in the list of those who sought asylum in ‘industrialised countries’ in the first quarter of this year. If population had had anything to do with the number of people leaving a country, then the world would have been overrun with Indians, even far more than the Chinese. Of course Indians and the Chinese transplant themselves in many places, but in recent times no citizens of any country would beat Nigerians for scattering themselves every which way, in far-flung, unlikely places. Needless to say, the youthful risk-taking Nigerians hitting the Sahara trail are not doing it just to slake mere wanderlust, they are fleeing the hopelessness and despondency at home. The image of the Wandering Nigerian is a far cry from that of the time-honoured ‘Wandering Jew,’ the ever-drifting Nigerian is a strapping young man (or woman), fuddled with dreams, addled with frustrations, slouching towards what he considers his El dorado, to ‘arrive.’  

So is Nigeria overpopulated? It certainly is not. Now if it were a landlocked country like Mali that had as people as Nigeria one might be tempted to advance demographic crisis. But then again the desert that occupies the greater part of Mali has done Thomas Malthus’s job for him – aridity and loamlessness would not even allow the country to resort to a comfortable agrarian existence. And then poverty, not to say diseases. As a matter of fact, these foregoing pair have truly been very effective in balancing out Africa’s population. Consider the number of people who die on Nigerian roads everyday, in skeletonic hospitals and clinics, in their homes. If there is anything that is overmuch about Nigerian population, it is how it is topheavy with thieving politicians, bureaucrats and soldiers.  



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posted on 11-09-2009, 09:58:09 AM
Eire
Re: The Myth Of Nigeria’s Overpopulation.
Stop spreading inaccurate information and blaming all the issues on leadership as the average Nigerian does.

If a country is not utilising its resources effectively for the benefit of the country the citizens should also ensure they have responsible childbearing to provide the best possible standard of living for their families and also for the immediate environment they live in.

If one day the Nigerian economy becomes well managed and their are signs it can provide for more people then perhaps expand the population but as it stands the carrying capacity of Nigeria is not enough to cater for 150 million people.

remove economics out of it you will see clear evidence of congestion, poor sanitation, lack of enough food, homelessness and extreme poverty among children who were had for the sake of reproducing.

It is shameful to read these disgraceful articles to be honest. Where is this man's thinking cap?
posted on 11-09-2009, 11:47:13 AM
Nwachukwuegbunike
Re: The Myth Of Nigeria’s Overpopulation.
Well said Mr Oriku. Though we hardly agree in most issues, there seems to be a convergence in 'the myth of Nigeria's overpopulation'. You are certainly right to insist that Nigeria's problem is not population, rather is the governance-enfeebling bent of a natural resource trap, corruption among others. As I said in a similar article, "no use peering into the crystal ball, fix governance in Africa and poverty will fly off the continent." No use shifting the blame.
posted on 11-09-2009, 12:16:56 PM
Eire
Re: The Myth Of Nigeria’s Overpopulation.
QUOTE:
Well said Mr Oriku. Though we hardly agree in most issues, there seems to be a convergence in 'the myth of Nigeria's overpopulation'. You are certainly right to insist that Nigeria's problem is not population, rather is the governance-enfeebling bent of a natural resource trap, corruption among others. As I said in a similar article, \"no use peering into the crystal ball, fix governance in Africa and poverty will fly off the continent.\" No use shifting the blame.


You are right, lets forget that Nigerians (employed and unemployed) are having children with simple explanations like "God will provide".
Infant mortality rate is high, HIV positive people are having children with comments like "juju will fix it". People who live in shacks want Government to come over and build skyscrapers for the 11 wives and 57 children they intend to have. People whose child capacity are 1 or 2 but have 20 instead have decide it is the responsibility of Government to cater for as many offspring's as they choose to have...leading to a Nigerian embarrassing the entire country on CNN with 84 or so wives and God knows how many kids!

And you wonder why you people are called monkeys and other kinds of less human names.

Start by re-branding your archaic mentalities before even trying to re-brand that primitive nation!
posted on 11-09-2009, 14:44:36 PM
Valteena
Re: The Myth Of Nigeria’s Overpopulation.
QUOTE:
Stop spreading inaccurate information and blaming all the issues on leadership as the average Nigerian does.

If a country is not utilising its resources effectively for the benefit of the country the citizens should also ensure they have responsible childbearing to provide the best possible standard of living for their families and also for the immediate environment they live in.

If one day the Nigerian economy becomes well managed and their are signs it can provide for more people then perhaps expand the population but as it stands the carrying capacity of Nigeria is not enough to cater for 150 million people.

remove economics out of it you will see clear evidence of congestion, poor sanitation, lack of enough food, homelessness and extreme poverty among children who were had for the sake of reproducing.

It is shameful to read these disgraceful articles to be honest. Where is this man's thinking cap?



So do tell eire, why the carrying capacity of Nigeria is not enough to cater for 150 million people. Do we lack the natural resources or the land span or the human capability to do so? The correct answer to that might address your seemingly pedestrian view to our population question above.

Here is a list of the most populous countries in the world. Take a look at them very well. As per the stats, India with a total population of 1,161,620,000, United States with a total population of 306,168,000, Indonesia with a total population of 229,850,000 and Brazil with a total population of 190,984,000 have taken the spot of second to fifth respectively. China is the most populous.

And with the exception of Bangladesh, the rest of the top 6 or 7 countries with more population than Nigeria seem to be doing well catering for their immense population and cannot be classified as underdeveloped and poverty ridden countries. Why is that? good and vision oriented governance methink.

This is without losing sight of the fact that their population has been a contributive factor to their advancement. And with able leadership and good governance, they've been able to turn their population in to an economic and political asset while ours is being turned into a curse. Go figure out why rather than come here to blame it solely on people having too many children.




Rank Country Population

World 6,790,062,216
1. China 1,338,612,968
2. India 1,166,079,217
3. European Union 491,582,852
4. United States 307,212,123
5. Indonesia 240,271,522
6. Brazil 198,739,269
7. Pakistan 176,242,949
8. Bangladesh 156,050,883
9. Nigeria 149,229,090
10. Russia 140,041,247
11. Japan 127,078,679
12. Mexico 111,211,789
13. Philippines 97,976,603
14. Vietnam 86,967,524
15. Ethiopia 85,237,338
16. Egypt 83,082,869
17. Germany 82,329,758
18. Turkey 76,805,524
19. Congo, Dem. Rep. 68,692,542
20. Iran 66,429,284
21. Thailand 65,905,410
22. France 64,057,792
23. United Kingdom 61,113,205
24. Italy 58,126,212
25. South Africa 49,052,489
26. Korea, South 48,508,972
27. Burma 48,137,741
28. Ukraine 45,700,395
29. Colombia 45,644,023
30. Sudan 41,087,825
31. Tanzania 41,048,532
32. Argentina 40,913,584
33. Spain 40,525,002
34. Kenya 39,002,772
35. Poland 38,482,919
36. Morocco 34,859,364
37. Algeria 34,178,188
38. Afghanistan 33,609,937
39. Canada 33,487,208
40. Uganda 32,369,558
41. Peru 29,546,963
42. Iraq 28,945,657
43. Saudi Arabia 28,686,633
44. Nepal 28,563,377
45. Uzbekistan 27,606,007
46. Venezuela 26,814,843
47. Malaysia 25,715,819
48. Ghana 23,832,495
49. Yemen 23,822,783
50. Taiwan 22,974,347
posted on 11-10-2009, 02:45:05 AM
Nwachukwuegbunike
Re: The Myth Of Nigeria’s Overpopulation.
What I have realised is that most people - Africa elites - included, have a carry over of sterotypic Western propaganda. I still stand by my earlier comments on this article. It does not deviate much from a post I made earlier in August in NVS "Why African Economies are Tettering."

Population is a strength, thats the dynamics that fuels US trade relations with China and India. MTN showed that the old saying that where the people are there you'll find the market. They recorded the hightest profits ever in just one year of operation. Guinness sells more in any other country in Nigeria than it does in any other part of the world, except Britain.

The fact is that our leaders should not hid behind the population myth as a reason for their gross incompetence. Other nations are using their population as a strength. Nigeria is currently depressed by a corrupt leadership and natural resource trap.
posted on 11-10-2009, 09:28:24 AM
Silent 1
Re: The Myth Of Nigeria’s Overpopulation.
That Nigeria is overpopulated is debatable; a debate that probably requires complex economic calculations to settle. What, however, should not be in debate is that Nigeria's present population growth rate is unsustainable, if not utterly irresponsible; and that should be the focus of any debate on Nigeria's population.

But, strictly staying with this piece then, I must agree that, with the same political elite and a population of 50 million people our lot will be no better.
posted on 11-10-2009, 12:49:33 PM
Eire
Re: The Myth Of Nigeria’s Overpopulation.
The fellow up there who said population is a strength is right but it depend on the quality of the population.

In the case of Nigeria there are too many illiterate primitive less human species who cannot even work in a call centre supporting rat poison purchases let alone technology!

Regardless of poor leadership or not. No Nigerian leader told Nigerians to breed more than their current means. with a well planned family structure parents and the little from government can go towards a better education and upbringing.

In the case of Nigeria the vast majority of the population are consumers of foreign goods ONLY, so their existence ONLY helps economies like the Chinese and the US. even if you want to use the Nigerian population to expand your economy you cannot on account of the fact they don't develop themselves BUT sit still and complain of what Government and that ever popular word "leaders" don't do for them! a lazy bunch of nincomp00ps who have nothing to live for but moan day in day out like the last 2 commentators above!

Listen to one of these bystanders "The fact is that our leaders should not hid behind the population myth as a reason for their gross incompetence. Other nations are using their population as a strength. Nigeria is currently depressed by a corrupt leadership and natural resource trap"

- to which my answer is where are these all powerful population of 150 million Nigerians when a very minute number of criminal rulers are strangling them for 50 years? If the Nigerian population where quality citizens they will not be so easily deceived, used, abused and still being bamboozled and abused!!! A Chinese population during communism and oppression were still more literate, visionary, resourcefully and productive than Nigerian population.

Hear another "That Nigeria is overpopulated is debatable; a debate that probably requires complex economic calculations to settle"

- what economic calculations? The bl00dy indices are clear and written on the pages of WHO, UN, local and international documents! Nigeria is wealthy but its citizens have no clue what to do with such wealth and as such a few people spend it on their behalf, while they the citizens are busy breeding like rabbits when their carrying capacity is unable to sustain such reproduction.

rubbish assessment in saying "But, strictly staying with this piece then, I must agree that, with the same political elite and a population of 50 million people our lot will be no better"

-Governor Fashola ( a good leader like the type Nigerians want) is busy buildings infrastructure but he does not seem to be providing enough because the more he builds and develops the more lagosians breed children to the extent roads are congested and over crowded. you will sit on these good roads but wont move very far due to too many people in such small spaces, should he instead develop on peoples heads and on top of other flyovers and bridges?

Nigeria is overpopulated, it is a glaring eyesore, it is inherent in our culture and beliefs and a pastime of even the educated and elite. Such primitive reasons for marrying many and producing beyond our means must be stopped so at to ensure some respect and dignity in childbearing!
posted on 11-10-2009, 16:34:59 PM
Nwachukwuegbunike
Re: The Myth Of Nigeria’s Overpopulation.
QUOTE:
The fellow up there who said population is a strength is right but it depend on the quality of the population.

In the case of Nigeria there are too many illiterate primitive less human species who cannot even work in a call centre supporting rat poison purchases let alone technology!...

Regardless of poor leadership or not. No Nigerian leader told Nigerians to breed more than their current means. with a well planned family structure parents and the little from government can go towards a better education and upbringing.

In the case of Nigeria the vast majority of the population are consumers of foreign goods ONLY, so their existence ONLY helps economies like the Chinese and the US. even if you want to use the Nigerian population to expand your economy you cannot on account of the fact they don't develop themselves BUT sit still and complain of what Government and that ever popular word \"leaders\" don't do for them! a lazy bunch of nincomp00ps who have nothing to live for but moan day in day out like the last 2 commentators above!

Listen to one of these bystanders \"The fact is that our leaders should not hid behind the population myth as a reason for their gross incompetence. Other nations are using their population as a strength. Nigeria is currently depressed by a corrupt leadership and natural resource trap\"

- to which my answer is where are these all powerful population of 150 million Nigerians when a very minute number of criminal rulers are strangling them for 50 years? If the Nigerian population where quality citizens they will not be so easily deceived, used, abused and still being bamboozled and abused!!! A Chinese population during communism and oppression were still more literate, visionary, resourcefully and productive than Nigerian population.

Hear another \"That Nigeria is overpopulated is debatable; a debate that probably requires complex economic calculations to settle\"

- what economic calculations? The bl00dy indices are clear and written on the pages of WHO, UN, local and international documents! Nigeria is wealthy but its citizens have no clue what to do with such wealth and as such a few people spend it on their behalf, while they the citizens are busy breeding like rabbits when their carrying capacity is unable to sustain such reproduction.

rubbish assessment in saying \"But, strictly staying with this piece then, I must agree that, with the same political elite and a population of 50 million people our lot will be no better\"

-Governor Fashola ( a good leader like the type Nigerians want) is busy buildings infrastructure but he does not seem to be providing enough because the more he builds and develops the more lagosians breed children to the extent roads are congested and over crowded. you will sit on these good roads but wont move very far due to too many people in such small spaces, should he instead develop on peoples heads and on top of other flyovers and bridges?

Nigeria is overpopulated, it is a glaring eyesore, it is inherent in our culture and beliefs and a pastime of even the educated and elite. Such primitive reasons for marrying many and producing beyond our means must be stopped so at to ensure some respect and dignity in childbearing!


So if we are to follow your analysis, what is important is not to bread "too many illiterate primitive less human species."

While those who are supposed raise their country out of the dung of illiteracy and ignorance should continue to suppress the common good. For the time being, we should stand by and cheer them on, to continue in their fiefdom. While we look sideways and invent a convinent myth of over population to dump our fustrations on. What logic? Please find a better excuse.
posted on 11-10-2009, 19:31:49 PM
Bill Carson
Re: Valteena's Village In Delta: Population 15 People with a few livestock
QUOTE:
So do tell eire, why the carrying capacity of Nigeria is not enough to cater for 150 million people. Do we lack the natural resources or the land span or the human capability to do so? The correct answer to that might address your seemingly pedestrian view to our population question above.

Here is a list of the most populous countries in the world. Take a look at them very well. As per the stats, India with a total population of 1,161,620,000, United States with a total population of 306,168,000, Indonesia with a total population of 229,850,000 and Brazil with a total population of 190,984,000 have taken the spot of second to fifth respectively. China is the most populous.

And with the exception of Bangladesh, the rest of the top 6 or 7 countries with more population than Nigeria seem to be doing well catering for their immense population and cannot be classified as underdeveloped and poverty ridden countries. Why is that? good and vision oriented governance methink.

This is without losing sight of the fact that their population has been a contributive factor to their advancement. And with able leadership and good governance, they've been able to turn their population in to an economic and political asset while ours is being turned into a curse. Go figure out why rather than come here to blame it solely on people having too many children.




Rank Country Population

World 6,790,062,216
1. China 1,338,612,968
2. India 1,166,079,217
3. European Union 491,582,852
4. United States 307,212,123
5. Indonesia 240,271,522
6. Brazil 198,739,269
7. Pakistan 176,242,949
8. Bangladesh 156,050,883
9. Nigeria 149,229,090
10. Russia 140,041,247
11. Japan 127,078,679
12. Mexico 111,211,789
13. Philippines 97,976,603
14. Vietnam 86,967,524
15. Ethiopia 85,237,338
16. Egypt 83,082,869
17. Germany 82,329,758
18. Turkey 76,805,524
19. Congo, Dem. Rep. 68,692,542
20. Iran 66,429,284
21. Thailand 65,905,410
22. France 64,057,792
23. United Kingdom 61,113,205
24. Italy 58,126,212
25. South Africa 49,052,489
26. Korea, South 48,508,972
27. Burma 48,137,741
28. Ukraine 45,700,395
29. Colombia 45,644,023
30. Sudan 41,087,825
31. Tanzania 41,048,532
32. Argentina 40,913,584
33. Spain 40,525,002
34. Kenya 39,002,772
35. Poland 38,482,919
36. Morocco 34,859,364
37. Algeria 34,178,188
38. Afghanistan 33,609,937
39. Canada 33,487,208
40. Uganda 32,369,558
41. Peru 29,546,963
42. Iraq 28,945,657
43. Saudi Arabia 28,686,633
44. Nepal 28,563,377
45. Uzbekistan 27,606,007
46. Venezuela 26,814,843
47. Malaysia 25,715,819
48. Ghana 23,832,495
49. Yemen 23,822,783
50. Taiwan 22,974,347
Val,

European Union my ****….. I can’t wait for the return of Margaret Thatcher to get us out of this Euro rubbish, return our proper hardcopy passport and get better Visa stamp whenever one is going on a booze cruise to Calais………

Back to the topic, I have never subscribed to that myth that Nigeria is over populated. Nigeria is less than one hundred million, try travelling through Northern Nigeria and experience the under population in the country sides.

With the level of mismanagement, if we were over a hundred million… then starvation would have been the order of the day….
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